The Sunic Journal: Interview with Jack Donovan
May 4, 2010 · Print This Article
Tom Sunic interviews Jack Donovan, an author and commentator who covers issues involving the decline of manhood and honor in the modern West. Topics include:
- Literary influences that shaped Jack’s current views; Wilde and Mishima
- Androphilia; criticism of “gay culture”; paleomasculinity
- The double standard in treatment of traditional groups and radical groups: gays, feminists, and minority groups
- The family unit and feminism; Leftist-manufactured “phobias”
- The origin of homosexuality: genetic or environmental determinism; the possibility of changing one’s orientation; sexuality as a “normative” standard
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This is your best show so far, Dr. Sunic. Jack Donovan is an amazing intellectual, and if he’s pro-white, this is a step in the right direction. He spent the first half of the show proving himself as one of the greatest thinkers on the right, then confirmed our suspicions regarding his sexuality.
Is the conflict between homosexual and heterosexual males a construct by leftist to create friction within our culture. Was it created by building an identity for the homosexual male as weaker and more feminized, and the heterosexual ideal as potentially dangerous and a threat to homosexuals?
However, you missed one important and provocative question: The individual homosexual can obviously work for and benefit our community, but as a group, do they automatically turn into the “gay community”?
Love your writing and will definitely check out your website, Jack.
A feminized culture will be bred out of existence by a masculine culture, no matter how inferior the masculine culture is otherwise. This logic is simple yet powerful. If only we could get pro-western feminists and homosexuals to understand it.
Tom Sunic, you misjudge your listeners if you think you have to “cover up” for yourself by acting surprised when Donovan confirmed his sexual orientation. You don’t have a problem with it.
It’s good that Jack brought up the Ancient Greeks. They had an entirely different view of homosexuality than our society does. It was OK to be a homosexual in Ancient Greece as long as you were masculine and eventually married a woman. Otherwise, you would have been considered effeminate and shunned. This is a more intelligent way of dealing with the problem of homosexuality than simply repressing it the way Christians do. I think the Christians in this country are just as responsible for creating the ultra-leftist gay “culture” as the gays are.
The homosexualilty of the Ancients was still fundamentally exploitative given that it usually involved a young boy. I for one think homosexuality should be repressed with anti-sodomy laws, as we did up until the fairly recent past.
It didn’t usually involve a young boy in Ancient Greece, and certainly not as young as (female) wives were married off (often upon the commencement of child-bearing ability). However, it is true that it involved a relative age difference (one partner was usually noticeably older than the other).
A very interesting interview. I’ve known many homosexuals in my life. None I felt threatened by. I do think it is quite interesting that many in “the movement:” hate gays outright, yet had sexual relations with men in the pen. Or think it “ok” to have anal sex with their wives.
Personally, I don’t want, nor ever had my penis in an anus, ever. But it is really laughable when you consider the hypocrisy that goes on, IMHO.
Tom’s tackling a hard topic. We should give him a lot of kudos for that. I obviously have my own opinion about this as do most of the listenership here. But it is an open and honest discussion.
The idiots [elsewhere] are quick to label Tom as a pro-homo person now. As [] probable trolls do. But hey, the tough topics will always be attacked like this.
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A.Georgiades “ Debunking the Myth of Homosexuality in Ancient Greece”
Maybe you twits need to read this article before you defame the
Ancient Greeks anymore.
charles,
I’ve seen the frescoes and imagery on Greek pottery which suggests a significant, though not rampant, acceptance of homoerotic practice among them. I hadn’t heard of the source you supply for an understanding of ancient Greek mores. Apparently, Adonis Georgiades is a politician who speaks for the right-wing Greek Popular Orthodox Rally party. I was curious to know if Jack Donovan had ever heard of him or read his writings and sent him an email. Here is Jack’s reply:
I am forced to delete a few comments.
The general principle guiding VoR’s comment policy, agreed by myself and the founders, is straightforward: Comments must be constructive. The comments exist solely for this Web site’s benefit. This Web site doesn’t exist so that Internet flame warriors can write their comments. I hope that this is clear.
@Steve: The sort of vulgar language that you have been using is unacceptable. And, I don’t care who flamed who first.
@Charles: Please refrain from name-calling and insults because you disapprove of one guest on one show out of hundreds.
Going forward, if you can’t be civil and targeted in your criticism, then please refrain from writing comments.
Yeah, I got carried away there, Mike. Sorry about that.
Mr. Conner: I confess I agree with you about VOR. All of the hundreds of shows have been excellent and/or thought-provoking.
Of all of those hundreds of shows/guests I have only been
seriously offended by one.
But even more, I have the upmost respect for people on VOR
because you have the courage to stand up and openly defend our
people, rather than hide behind trendy internet handles.
That is more impressive, in this degenerate age, than any of the other courageus things that you have accomplished.
But at the risk of being accused of name-calling, I still think
that you, or some of you, are somewhat naive on the obvious
subject. I would urge you to revisit what happened to
Joseph McCarthy when he, in an attempt to curry favor with the
jewish lobby, hired two right-wing homosexual attorneys to
to help him in his anti-communist campaign. I am sorry that
I don’t have the direct link, but anyone at http://www.barnesreview.org
should , as I am pretty sure I first read about it there.
As for the contretemps with your co-worker, all I can do is
quote my dear old mother. When I was in the 1st grade and
I would come home crying because some bully was picking
on me, she would just look at me and say,
” sticks and stones will break my bones but names will never hurt me.” But I realize us old pterodactyls from the 50’s are a dying
breed so I promise to be nice.
Mr. Ellis,
I appreciate your earnest concern, and I think that I understand your point of view. When in doubt, I think that it’s going to be VoR’s general tendency to allow hosts and their producers (like Steve) a good amount of discretion to do shows as they see fit, including guest choice (there are definitely exceptions, though). As long as the program is valuable on balance — and let’s be frank here, Dr. Sunic’s show is very valuable on balance — I don’t think there is a problem with an occasional controversial guest, even though my own personal views may tell me otherwise in some cases.
By the way, one possible misconception that you may have that I would like to disabuse you of is the idea that we are in any way attempting to curry favor with Jews or homosexuals by this or any other guest choice. Please be assured that nothing of the sort is the case.
Finally, we do appreciate your donations, and we do pay attention to the opinions of donors as well as those of our volunteer staff. I hope that you realize that not every choice is easy and that making every person happy every time is quite impossible.
Respectfully,
-Mike
Mr Conner : As much as I would like everyone to think that I am
a big fat cat donor, I have to confess that I was shamed into
donating to VOR by Mishko’s announcement last week that in spite
of 100s of 1000s of downloads, VOR was having a hard time making
the weekly expenses. Well, I am one of those free-loaders.
I have down-loaded and listened to almost every program that
you folks have produced. Hell, I have down-loaded and listened
to every one of Dr Sunic’s programs. In a strange twist of fate,
I was actually listening to Dr Sunic interview Mr Donovan as I
was returning from the post office after mailing your check.
And, as Steve so presciently put it, I proceeded to throw a
Hissy fit. And to add insult to injury, I was introduced to Dr Sunic
By a mutual friend and he was very gracious and friendly.
And in defense of Steve, Dr Sunic didn’t get my odd South
Idaho humor either. For some reason, no one gets it except
other South Idahoans. And while I’m at it I am sure Mr Donovan
is always respectful to his parents.
So now that I have gotten my real mea culpas out of the way,
lets get to the real reason of this post. I have a lot of great
ideas about fundraising ( most of which I stole from Jamie
Kelso ). We probably should have this conversation in private,
so why don’t you shoot me an e-mail and lets talk about how
to get some of these freeloading bas….oops, I mean these
loyal listeners to cough up some money.
charles ellis