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The Heretics’ Hour: Disinformation on the Internet, Part Two

February 7, 2011

Carolyn discusses six major disinfo and conspiracy specialists who love to confuse Globalism with “the Nazis:”

  • Alex Jones: V Campaign as resistance against “Nazi” NWO;
  • Jim Marrs: How America became the Fourth Reich;
  • Webster Tarpley: Ties together Britain, the US & “the Nazis;”
  • David Icke: Hitler was a Rothschild and a Reptilian;
  • Henry Makow: Hitler was a Rothschild, a British Agent and a Zionist;
  • Wayne Madsen: The Drew Pearson of the 21st Century.

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33 Responses to “The Heretics’ Hour: Disinformation on the Internet, Part Two”

  1. Akira on February 9th, 2011 4:11 am

    IT WAS NO KNOCKOUT!

    The Merry STM Pranksters’ Anthem

    By Pyotr Gavreel

    Daryl plays with Oggie
    Oggie plays with Rense
    Daryl loves his beer
    Eric makes no sense

    Mikey plays with Dukey
    Christopher married a Yid
    Jeff called Homeland Security
    Jihad Glenn flipped his lid

    Whistling tunes
    They peeped through Glenn’s daughter’s window
    Wrasslin’ like ‘boons
    They hooked up in Berne and they sinned, oh!

    It was no knockout!

    Looks can’t kill, but Jews sure will
    Jew games without frontiers
    Make war! Fear and tears!

    Looks can’t kill, but Jews sure will
    Jew games without frontiers
    Make war! Fear and tears!

    Jews crossing borders
    Silver & Beers!

    Jews sans frontieres
    Jews sans frontieres
    Jews sans frontieres
    Jews sans frontieres
    Jews sans frontieres
    Jews sans frontieres
    Jews sans frontieres
    Jews sans frontieres

    Ugly Glenn has a green flag
    Rense is always blue
    They all have blogs where their fingers they wag
    All run by a bloody Jew

    Dressing up as Nazis (or not…)
    Playing silly games
    Writing on all these web-sites (on pot…)
    SHOUTING OUT RUDE NAMES

    Whistling tunes
    They work for Mossad by the seaside
    Wrasslin’ like ‘boons
    They take it real bad, from the B-Side

    It was no knockout!

    Looks can’t kill, but Jews sure will
    Jew games without frontiers
    Make war! Fear and tears!

    Looks can’t kill, but Jews sure will
    Jew games without frontiers
    Make war! Fear and tears!

    Jews crossing borders
    Silver & Beers!

    Jews sans frontieres
    Jews sans frontieres
    Jews sans frontieres
    Jews sans frontieres
    Jews sans frontieres
    Jews sans frontieres
    Jews sans frontieres
    Jews sans frontieres


  2. Bob on February 9th, 2011 9:09 am

    Et tu Carolyn?

    One of the most misused and misunderstood terms was again misused by Carolyn, probably becaus she does not understand it:

    Fascist America?

    (INS) – A term, dual term, which has been destroyed through misuse is ‘fascism’ … ‘Fascism’.

    One definition of ‘fascism’ is simply “unified for effect”, and as many know, ‘Fascism’ is the political movement first organized effectively by Benito Mussolini; however, current usage mis-characterizes Fascism/fascism as being the confluence of government and trans-national corporations as an evil combine.

    The mistake is that Mussolini’s Fascism was rule by an alliance of Big Government, Big Business, and Big LABOR! The Labor aspect is missing today. The voice of the Working Class has been effectively destroyed.

    America is not a Fascist state – it is ruled through the worst form of government possible – it is Centralized [International] Feudalism!

    4thPos

  3. A German on February 9th, 2011 12:40 pm

    @Bob
    Good analysis.
    Centralized International Feudalism, or simply GLOBALISM!

    Most people are too stupid to understand thet Fascism is just a branch of totalitarism. Like a finger is part of an arm.

    And totalitarism has many branches, on the left, on the right and even in the center: Fascism, Communism, Marxism, Bolshevism, Socialism, Militarism, Theocracy, Cleptocracy, Oligarchy, Monarchy, Pseudo-Democracy, Enviromentalism…

    So, originally they want to blame totalitarism, but as in the book 1984, where the ministry of words deletes words from the grammar to create new speak, they simply have no words anymore to describe anything, that’s why today even Communism or the global warming hoax or recationary monarchy or theocracy or globalism is all FASCISM for these sheeple.

    And everything is “like Hitler”.
    Saddam is “like Hitler”
    Ahmadinejad is “like Hitler”
    Katrina is “like Hitler”
    911 is “like Hitler”
    Credit crunch is “like Hitler”
    Even Stalin (if mentioned at all) “is like Hitler”

    And what these sheeple, who are using fascism as their daily antinym, cannot differentiate at all, is that Nationalsocialism has almost nothing in common with fascism.
    But they are throwing all into the same mash.

    http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/55/totalitarism.png
    http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/7560/feeler.png

  4. Bob on February 9th, 2011 1:47 pm

    A German,

    The form of governance is important — different situations, or gestalts, call for different solutions; however, of greatest import are the people in power — not the form of their rule.

    Consider the yellow school bus: Its best use is to deliver students to and from their school — but, in a pinch, it can be used to deliver food, heating fuel, etc. No matter how temporarily inefficient, it can also do that job.

    In either instance, it is not the vehicle which is of prime importance, but the person driving it.

    4thPos

  5. Akira on February 9th, 2011 2:47 pm

    You know you’ve gone through the looking glass when someone tries to tell you that Michael Jackson was “Just like Hitler!”

    Who’s next, Justin Bieber?

    + + +

    I look forward to Part 50 of your internet shill series. (I hope my name doesn’t show up there one day…)

    One thing I don’t recall hearing in the two shows you’ve done in connection to disinfo is the way in which these people get listeners/readers to form into camps.

    Sorry if I’m repeating myself, but that’s why I call them STMs (S-Throwing Monkeys). They jut keep feuding, forming cliques, “denouncing” everyone who doesn’t support them and their associates 100%, then they “break up” in public and demand that everyone follow them and renounce all ties to their former “best buddies”.

    It’s all very Jewey of course. A total Jew M.O., familiar to anyone who’s observed Communist groups, and Jews in general.

    You know, they love to boast that, “If you have two Jews, there will be three political parties!” as if that is a good thing. Bizarre people.
    Here’s another guy I would trust NOT ONE TINY LITTLE BIT.

    This lunatic Ken O’Keefe is now co-writing with The Jew Duff:

    http://uprootedpalestinians.blogspot.com/2011/02/ken-okeefe-gordon-duff-new-attacks-in.html

    There’s a lot of coverage of (and slavish praise for) O’Keefe at Gilad Atzmon’s site.

    I still tend to think Atzmon is for real, but stopped checking out his site on a regular basis, and stopped corresponding with him, after he started appearing with and promoting Ugly Glenn, Kevin Barrett, Alan Hart, Ken O’Keefe, and that whole rotten crew. (Still, I don’t start jumping up and denounce him and demand that everybody have nothing to do with him.).

    O’Keefe is the US ex-military guy (so many of these “ex”es…) who supposedly renounced his citizenship (but he’s now “a citizen of Hawaii”) and has a tear-drop tattoo on his cheek, and has wormed himself into the pro-Pal Anti-Jew-State movement.

    I’m quite sure he passes all info collected straight back to the Pentagon (or wherever he’s handled from).

    Sometimes I’m amazed at how stupid so many people are. Someone shows up telling them exactly what they want to hear, and they just hand over the farm. Amazing how easy it is to manipulate people.

    + + +

    Don’t forget Shaminski, another Marxist agitator, who completely contradicts himself from one day to the next.

  6. Akira on February 9th, 2011 2:52 pm

    Please note:

    QUOTE

    By Ken O’Keefe and Gordon Duff for Veterans Today

    [...]

    February 9, 2001 (VT) Gaza: Last night, Israeli planes bombed a medical supply center in Gaza. The bombing attack lasted only 20 minutes or so, short when compared to the “London blitz” during World War II but similar in other way.

    [...]

    Gaza, 800,000 people surrounded by 20 foot walls, barbed wire and machine guns towers, half Auschwitz and half “Warsaw ghetto,”is the largest prison camp in world history.

    [...]

    Labels: 9/11, Gordon Duff, Holocaust, Ken O’Keefe, The War on Gaza, War and Terror, Zionist entity

    UNQUOTE

  7. Akira on February 9th, 2011 3:15 pm

    Just to clarify:

    I also often refer to holocausts, but I make sure to point out that I’m not referring to, or making analogies to “THE HOLOCAUST”, which is clearly a hoax/brainwashing/propaganda/massive exaggeration, but rather to real holocausts (Hiroshima, Dresden, etc) in the literal sense: A burnt offering to one’s deity.

    On a related note I see Michael Hoffman has commented on some new RC translation of the Bible in which they’ve removed the word “holocaust” (so as not to offend Christ-Killers!), even though Biblical references are literal translations of the Hebrew or transliterations of the Greek word that holocaust is based on.

    This bloody word, eh?

    A holocaust is a religious animal sacrifice that is completely consumed by fire. From Ancient Greek holocaustos (ὁλόκαυστος from ὅλος “whole” + καυστός “burnt”). Holokautein (ὁλοκαυτεῖν) was one of the two chief verbs of Greek sacrifice, in which the victim is utterly destroyed and burnt up.

    The Hebrew word “olah” also refers to a sacrifice in which the victim is utterly burnt.

    What’s next, they’ll be demanding that the Greek text of the Septuagint be changed too? Of course that’s the plan, since Jews are never satisfied.

    + + +

    For people unfamiliar with this matter of terminolgy. Jews refer to their Hoaxico$t as “The Shoah”, which literally means “Calamity”/”Catastrophe”, and was, ironically, chosen as the translation of the German word “Katastrophe”, which was the common usage of all those many German-speaking “H-survivors” right after the war.

    The Arab word “Nakba”, referring to the Jews takeover of Palestine, also means Catastrophe.

    Of course “Nakba observance” is illegal in Nakba-denying Jew Entity in Occupied Palestine.

  8. Carolyn on February 9th, 2011 3:28 pm

    @Bob,

    “One of the most misused and misunderstood terms was again misused by Carolyn, probably becaus she does not understand it:”

    And what don’t I understand, Bob. You? You’re right about that. I do know that you like to play the expert, though, without making a very good case for it.

    All references to fascism in the program implied that fascism is misused by the subjects, and also in our present culture altogether. Just how did *I* misuse it, if you would be so good as to be precise about that.

  9. Carolyn on February 9th, 2011 3:34 pm

    Also, Bob, I think you should explain what you mean by 4th Position, since you sign off with it.

  10. Carolyn on February 9th, 2011 3:46 pm

    @Akira,

    ” I look forward to Part 50 of your internet shill series”

    It will continue, but next week won’t be Part III. Still along those lines though. My current title: Ignorance is the Enemy.

    Lunatic is a good adjective for Ken O’Keefe, and yes, it’s hard to find anyone you can truly believe, let alone ‘believe in.’

    Thanks for the great find of Feb. 2001 VT — he’s actually been around that long? And doing this for 10 years? ! I’d like to see how the website appeared at that time. I’ll look.

  11. Akira on February 9th, 2011 4:06 pm

    The O’Keefe-Duff story gave the wrong date. Typo.

    The story is from 2011.02.09

    The link at “Uprooted Palestinian” (posted by “Palestinian Citizen” O’Keefe) has the incorrect date of 2001.02.09.

    The short story on O’Keefe, from the horse’s mouth is:

    “Ken is a former U.S. Marine who served in the 1991 Gulf War and subsequently spoke out about the use of depleted uranium as a “crime against humanity” and the US military using soldiers as “human guinea pigs” with experimental drugs that were directly linked to Gulf War syndrome. He is also a social entrepreneur utilizing direct action marine conservation, he is more widely known for leading the human shield action to Iraq and as a survivor of the Israeli attack on the MV Mavi Marmara in which he participated in “defending the ship” and “disarming two Israeli Commandos”. On January 7, 2004, O’Keefe burned his US passport in protest of “American Imperialism” and called for US troops to immediately withdrawal from Iraq. He replaced his US passport with a “World Passport”, subsequently proclaiming himself a “Citizen of the World” with “ultimate allegiance to my entire human family and to planet Earth.” His is also legal citizen of Ireland and Palestine citizenship.”

    [His auto-bio note at VT]

    He forgot about his Hawaiian citizenship. What an insult to he Hawaiians!

    He’s very Jewey.

    His stated heroes are Howie Zinn, Noam Chomsky, Mandela, MLK, Malcolm X.

    So now the Palestinians are all supposed to be guided by Comrade Zinn and Comrade Chomsky? And follow Jews’-slave MLK and Malcolm X? (‘Cause that worked out so well for Black Americans…)

    More on this character here:

    http://brianakira.wordpress.com/2010/06/27/ken-okeefe-okhotnik-za-fashistami-fair-play-for-palestine-committee/

  12. Bob on February 9th, 2011 4:10 pm

    Carolyn,

    I am re-listening to the show for that which I reacted to … I could be wrong, and had intended to listen again. Also, I should have complimented your efforts before making any comments to begin with, and am catching more this second time. The good presenters become even better with repetition, at least for me.

    As far as FOURTH Position, here is an explanation from another posting:

    http://incogman.net/02/2011/brendon-oconnell-sentenced-to-3-years-i
    n-prison/comment-page-2/#comment-90651

    The First and Second positions can be transposed, depending upon time frame or circumstance. Also, this is one characteristic among many.

    More later.

    4thPos

  13. Bob on February 9th, 2011 4:12 pm

    I have problems with links here. here’s the post:

    I am FOURTH Position. As far as religion goes in this regard, it means that WE must take action, that WE must do the heavy lifting, and not count on any other entity — whatever it is.

    In religion, First position is monotheism, Second position is polytheism (the Trinity there someplace), Third position is atheism/agnosticism, and FOURTH position = “It don’t matter!!” (see above).

    But the implication is great! One thing that is needed is something a person will die for without hesitation. This is the basis for ‘bravery’. Note suicide attackers, etc. whose raison d’etre is usually religion.

    4thPos

  14. Carolyn on February 9th, 2011 4:22 pm

    Bob, thanks for your nice reaction to my comment and for re-listening. I will check out your link to 4th position.

  15. Carolyn on February 9th, 2011 4:26 pm

    Akira: Yes, I found that out. But to satisfy my need to know, I went back, back, back to the first post by Duff that is there — Oct. 9, 2007. There is no way on this site to find out about it’s history … that I could find.

  16. A German on February 9th, 2011 8:41 pm

    @Carolyn
    This was an excelent analysis of Alex Jonestown and his cabal!

    And I agree, Webster Tarpley is a very smart guy.
    He speaks fluent German, once I saw him giving a lecture in German.
    And he’s perhaps one of the few people, besides you, in the alternative media, who really has a good historical understanding.
    He’s not just repeating voodoo history like Alex Jonestown.
    But unfortunately Tarpley has this mental disorder “It’s fascism/the Natzis”.
    First I thought he’s a libertarian, anti-globalist anti war activist.
    But then I started to wonder, “Why the heck is the guy always talking about Fascism?”
    But that he’s a leftie, I hear the first time.

    I only can remember a funny situation.
    Tarpley was as guest in Alex Jonestown’s new fency tv studio and a caller called in and ask why Alex is hiding his Jewish wife and why he’s silent about his Jewish boss at GNCS etc.
    Tarpley just smiled, because he knew that the caller was right, but he said nothing. Otherwise he would no longer be supported by the Alex Jonestown show.
    Alex Jonestown just muted the caller.

    What Is also don like on Tarpley is his extreme anti-British sentiment. It’s like he’s still living in 1776.
    He’s blaiming the British Empire even as much as the Natzis,
    although both, the Natzis and the British Empire, is not existing anymore.

    And for David Icke, this guy is totally insane. A total esoteric nut.
    But what makes me anxious, meanwhile he’s filling concert halls, like Briston Acadamy, for his lectures and has many esotheric mentally ill people as followers.
    For him it’s also always the Natzis and Fascism.
    For exaple he showed some picture of the German Kaiser and Wilhelmian generals who wore fur caps with a big death head on it, he even showed one picture of a princess with such uniform and then he made the connection to the “eeeevil Natzis” and showed the people the death head on the SS caps.
    And then he said that all these Reptilians a part of a giant death cult etc.
    LOL

    But what he didn’t explain, this fur cap with the death head was the typical uniform of Hussar troops since the 17th century.
    The Hussars were a cavalery troop and mostly guards of the king/Kaiser. True daredevils who fought until the dead.

    That’s why they had the death head as sign.

    And in this tradition German Panzer troops saw themselves and that’s why they wore death heads on their collars.
    The same did the SS later, they also saw themselves in the tradition of these Hussars.

    So death head is no sign of a death cult or coming Holocaust, it just was a sign that they’re loyal till death and would fight till death.

    With the same crazy argument Icke could claim pirates would be part of Reptilian death cult.
    But his sheeple followers don’t know it and won’t hear it.

    And then he always tries to distinguish between Zionists and Jews and blames Natzi Zionists for everything.
    But that doesn’t help him much with the Jews.
    For the ADL he’s an anti-semite who disguising Jews as Reptilians.

    And what I also cannot believe is that any sane human can believe his story of Hilter being a Rothschild or and a British agent, this so ridiculous.

    And the most disgusting Icke act is, he’s heavily promoting a South African Negro, Credo Mutwa, who’s a self-proclaimed medcine man and claims to have encountered Reptilians and now wants “to warn the world” yada yada ya
    But if you just listen 5 minutes to this Credo Mutwa, you’re soon aware that this Negro is nothing but an anti-white racist.
    He always blames the white man and especially Whites in South Africa and that after South Africa has become a slaughter house for Whites in the last 16 years.
    And David Icke is promoting this disgusting Negro as “holy man”.
    That says it all.

  17. Carolyn on February 9th, 2011 11:39 pm

    @German,

    Tarpley hates the British as all the LaRouchies do. They love Geo. Washington and FDR, who they see as “populists.” Washington, who fought the British, is their greatest man, so yes, they kind of stay in 1776. They also like German culture, especially Schiller … they have a Schiller Institute, their cultural arm … but they hate the National Socialists because they see it as Fascist, as everyone does, even though they’re wrong. I really don’t understand it, except that they’re leftists. Tarpley probably gets all his “intelligence” ideas from the LaRouche Executive Intelligence Review and/or Report. They keep up with everything that’s going on.

    I think he uses anyone who will put him in the public limelight, just as you said. The LaRouche group are cultish and do everything to serve the leadership. Whether they’re actually under a power higher than Lyndon LaRouche, I don’t know.

    The deaths-head insignia … that’s exactly the way they twist everything. Pure ignorance, and their listeners don’t know any better but to believe. As Akira said above: “Amazing how easy it is to manipulate people.” Yes, it really is.

    And the blacks. They all love the blacks. Wayne Madsen especially. He hates the white man, says so, and loves Africans. Icke too. Jones and Daryl Smith too, but not as much. They are so stupid.

  18. Bob on February 10th, 2011 12:24 am

    Carolyn,

    Listening again and again, I think right about minute 24 was where I must have been hearing things … my fault. There was no mis-use by you — it was simply you reporting their mis-use!

    Here’s something interesting as an apology:

    Excerpts: Goebbels — Mastermind of the Third Reich, David Irving (1996)

    pg 418-9:

    Twice that May Hitler comes over to Schwanenwerder to cruise aboard the Goebbels yacht, surrounded by the latest handsome women in the minister’s life. And once, as they again cruise alone amongst the blossoms of Potsdam, Hitler unburdens himself to Goebbels about his secret, innermost ambition — to undo for ever the humiliation done to Germany by the Peace of Westphalia which had concluded the Thirty Years’ War in 1648 greatly to her disadvantage.

    pg 470 :

    Goebbels predicted that Prague would buckle under this pressure. Hitler disagreed. ‘In 1948,’ he said, ‘it will be just three hundred years since the Peace of Münster [Westphalia]. We’ve got to liquidate that peace treaty by then.’ Praising Goebbels’ propaganda effort so far, he added: ‘We’ve half won the war already.’39

    pg 537:

    The Führer wishes he had ten more years. His target is to set aside the Peace of Westphalia [which concluded the Thirty Years War in 1648]. And he’ll get his way.

    Good night!

    4thPos

  19. Carolyn on February 10th, 2011 8:42 pm

    Thanks Bob.

  20. Hass on February 10th, 2011 9:18 pm

    עס איז געווען אַ פייַן ווייַזן, אָבער איך נאָך ווי מאַדסען

  21. Hass on February 10th, 2011 10:20 pm

    Thanks Carolyn for this great program.

    As stated above, I maintain that Madsen is a source of good information.

    I got a lot wiser about Tarpley, thanks to you. I can add that in LaRouchian “British Empire” stands for Rothschilds and LR has bean getting heat for the jews for it. Their main hero is not Washington but rather Hamilton who together with jew Morris organized the First Bank of the US., a totally corrupt institution. Morris was the first agent of international jewry in the US, sent here to create a stronghold for their interests. It was he who was the main opponent of Andrew Jackson, later on.

    And, of course, FDR with his HooverDam and New Deal. Tarpley and LR are typical statists – diametral opposition to libertarianism.

    As for Icke, Jones and Makow, I will cite this:
    “In the third rank we shall set up our own, to all appearance, off position, which, in at least one of its organs, will present what looks like the very antipodes to us. Our real opponents at heart will accept this simulated opposition as their own and will show us their cards. (…) THESE ATTACKS UPON US WILL ALSO SERVE ANOTHER PURPOSE, NAMELY, THAT OUR SUBJECTS WILL BE CONVINCED TO THE EXISTENCE OF FULL FREEDOM OF SPEECH AND SO GIVE OUR AGENTS AN OCCASION TO AFFIRM THAT ALL ORGANS WHICH OPPOSE US ARE EMPTY BABBLERS, since they are incapable of finding any substantial objections to our orders.”
    And:
    “We must so direct the education of the GOYIM communities that whenever they come upon a matter requiring initiative they may drop their hands in despairing impotence.”

    I believe these gentlemen fit quite well the description. You have shown beautifully that people like Icke and Jones are rendering the public impotent by showing how great and all-encompassing the NWO-reptilian-Illuminati conspiracy is.

  22. Akira on February 11th, 2011 8:00 am

    Gilad Atzmon just moved from the “Increasingly Dodgy” to the “Extremely Shady” column:

    GA assures VT that MB is Kosher:

    http://www.veteranstoday.com/2011/02/11/gilad-atzmon-the-muslim-brotherhood-is-kosher/

    The Brotherhood is a Masonic outfit, btw.

  23. Carolyn on February 11th, 2011 10:53 pm

    @Hass

    So appropriate to bring up the Protocols. They are a great educational tool and should be used and talked about more than they are. The problem is, we all have trouble reading them. I didn’t finish the book and have never gone back to it. I stopped at Protocol 10 and there are 24 of them.

    But I have a great idea! Jamie Kelso can do a series like he’s done with Instauration–reading and talking about one Protocol of the Jewish Elders per night. This would be a great education initiative. It should be publicized. We would get people talking about them again.

    If one is really interested in changing the climate we live in, this is the kind of thing that has to be done. The reality of this dark rule we are under has to be made very clear. Why don’t you suggest it?

  24. Hass on February 12th, 2011 12:21 am

    @Carolyn and Everybody,

    I think your idea is great. Everybody knows the first couple of protocols but people get tired of the text which is in many places hard to access. The style of the narrative is very uneven. In some places it’s bombastic, in others – very matter-of -factly and almost bureaucratic-economic.

    I don’t know Jamie but I will be happy to contact him. If more of us here do it, maybe he could arrange talks, perhaps together with some of his friends who know the text well and both could make it vivid and relevant. Because it’s definitely worth it.

  25. Akira on February 12th, 2011 9:24 am

    STMs DBS, Eric, Bollyn & Ognir Drive O’Toole Insane

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSytPetdHk4

  26. Carolyn on February 12th, 2011 10:57 am

    Here’s his latest radio program. He explains his version of what took place at Ognir’s “pad” last week. Not convincing, but wait till you hear what Mohammed Rafeeq says when he comes on. Smith laughs in a derogatory way — he just can’t hide his low-life nature. Smith is now calling Ognir by his real name, Noel Ryan.

    Who would want to be associated with a person like him? And he claims on his website that he’s against “criminals.”

    http://iamthewitness.com/audio/Muhammad.Rafeeq/TFC.SMITH.rAfEeq.mp3

  27. Parvus on February 12th, 2011 12:18 pm

    More “tea ‘n’ sympathy” with Rafiq/Rafeeq. Their frequent fireside chats are so anodyn I virtually gave up listening at the end of 2010. Also they are very self-congratulatory although no mention is ever made of unfortuinate facts like: 3-4 years ago Rafiq (Rafeeq?) recommended on the programme RBS/Royal Bank of Scotland in the UK as a safe bank to deposit with — oops! A big taxpayer-funded bailout later on. This was due to their off balance sheet exposure to derivatives and related bonds so in fairness most likely not to be gleaned from the accounts or event the notes thereto but this scenario does not paint Rafiq as someone having the City connections and know-how that the professed 20+ years’ work experience there might otherwise suggest.

  28. Hass on February 12th, 2011 3:11 pm

    Can somebody explain to me the sudden ay-vey about all this?

    We have just had a practical lesson on that some people attracted to the outside of “polite society” are mentally unstable. And that’s it. It is deplorable, yes, but that’s the way it is.

    Now, is enybody in this circle interested like Carolyn and myself in a series of fireside chats about the Protocols? And if so, who would be the best to turn to? Carolyn proposed Jamie Kelso. Anybody else? Maybe Mike Piper?

  29. Ulvhane on February 12th, 2011 4:26 pm

    Interesting speculation and pondering.

  30. Joetx on February 13th, 2011 7:59 pm

    Hi Carolyn
    glad youve taken on these hot airbags, this Daryl BS posted a link on his French connection website to this jew GERT TIMMERMAN’s website http://www.eaec.org/newsletters/2008/vol_8/showdown-in-jerusalem-digest.htm that has some of the most ridiculous claims like that Hess, Goering and Julius Streicher, were all jews, Streicher was hanged at Nuremberg for his anti-jewish writings-he had no govt or military post during the war. This alcoholic DBS has no problem taking the word of a jew at face value, but then again the man is so crazy he will attack and try to strangle his former sidekick “Ognir” what can be expected
    of such ilk

  31. Joetx on February 13th, 2011 8:08 pm

    also another windbag/ignoramus to add to your list is Stadmiller from RBN I schooled in a callin to his show the ignoramus referred to Obama as a fascist regime, he claims fascism=corporativism=government by the corporations. i informed this former assembly line worker with a US high school education that fascism was made up of “corporations’ representing the state and made up by unions, military and business making up these corporations. The progressive social laws enacted by fascism favoring the working class was something no other government had done till then-hardly something a govt owned by big business would ever do

  32. Carolyn on February 14th, 2011 2:33 pm

    Someone just sent me a vile video featuring Webster Tarpley expounding on Adolf Hitler. Now I am so glad I included WT in my list, and pretty far up the scale too. What a pack of lies this guy spews. I haven’t even watched it all yet, I had to take a break. But this is proof of all that I said about him. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uzwhNimpA3U

  33. Hass on February 14th, 2011 10:47 pm

    @Carolyn

    Good you have posted the link to “Tarp on Hitler”.
    I have listened to it thinking all the time “wo die Kette springt ab” in his head.

    My first thought when he started on the sex theme and “failed painter”: What a Schweinhund!

    He makes several mistakes because he has a particular worldview and I think he may even believe what he is saying or is only partly aware of his mistakes. I have known many such persons “live” who look at data selectively and build a “theory of everything” out of it.

    Hitler was being helped to power from the Jewish-financial and Bolshevist sides NOT because he was viewed as a maniac wanting war but as a man able to unite and rebuild the Nation and make it strong again. Hitler didn’t want war but the usual suspects did their tricks and war started. There would be no “fun” or profit or destruction fighting and defeating a weak Germany.

    Tarpley is avoiding the Jewish problem in Germany all he can. More: he praises plutocrat Rathenau of same extraction. I can’t believe he is unaware that the resentment in Germany known as Dolchstoss was aimed specifically on Jewish plutocrats. He ascribes it tounspecified plutocrats.

    He says nothing about the intense anti-Germanism and declaration of war by Chaim Weizmann of the World Jewish Congress in 1939 and of Jewish economic boycott of Germany from 1933 on. Here, I think, this is more than wishful forgetting – this is active disinfo.

    He is talking about Bush family as if they run Auschwitz and the “gas chambers” personally. Yes, Prescott did profit off trade with Germany but was he “in the loop” re: geopolitical ramifications? Possibly, not necessarily.

    Tarpley says it was Hitler who wanted war because he was a maniac. Not so. FDR’s and Churchill’s backers and corrupters wanted war while Chamberlain and his circle consisting of people with traces of patriotism tried to avoid it. Even the king wanted peace with Germany and was chased off the throne. He seemed to have liked chatting with Hitler.

    Tarpley speaks of Hitler’s crazy racism (and thereby isolation of Germany) and the lost chance in the Ukraine. Not so.
    Hitler considered the Germanic stock to be superior in terms of nationbuilding but he was able to respect other nations and races. Jesse Owen said after the Olympics that Hitler congratulated him while FDR didn’t – FDR despised him, he said (if memory serves).

    The lost chance in the Ukraine was a complex problem. The whole Barbrossa was a hasty and improvised war, planned and organized in a matter of months due to the very real and deadly danger of Soviet invasion (see Viktor Suvorov’s “Icebreaker” and Joachim Hoffmann’s “Stalins Vernichtungskrieg”).
    There was no time nor weapons to equip a larger Ukrainian force. Hitler’s only chance of success was a blitzkrieg won before winter 1941.
    Even Hitler with all his intelligence data was unable to grasp how vast the Soviet war preparations had been and how great the Soviet war industry really was. Hitler’s 3400 worn out tanks of older types stood against over 20 000 soviet ones, most of which were newer and more modern (it’s true that the Soviet tactics and training were inferior at that time but in a surprise attack that wouldn’t be a great drawback). Suvorov describes hundreds of Soviet railway cars full of first class maps of Europe found by German soldiers at the Soviet border.

    Besides, in 1942-3 when the Ukrainians might have been of use, the occupation and Soviet subversionhad already created much unavoidable resentment, even hatred and the Ukrainians were no longer enthusiastic to enlist.

    To sum up: Tarpley is imho a mix of a self-blinded ideologue of Statism and a common liar.

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