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The Sunic Journal: Interview with Norman Lowell, Part 2 of 2

August 3, 2010

Norman Lowell

Norman Lowell is a former banker, an artist, and the founder and leader of Imperium Europa, a New Right Maltese political party. Topics include:

  • An update on Lowell’s “hate speech” court case
  • The publishing of the book Imperium Europa
  • The spiritual basis of the Imperium
  • The economic vision of the Imperium
  • The political structure of the Imperium

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119 Responses to “The Sunic Journal: Interview with Norman Lowell, Part 2 of 2”

  1. Rich on August 4th, 2010 5:17 pm

    Another terrific and very entertaining interview. He really has a way with words when he gets going. A totally different take on economics is explained at the end – Full UNemployment as the goal. Essentially people shouldn’t be wage-slaves, so an interesting and very high-minded goal.

    A new book by another person is coming out soon that sounds comprehensive and will build up some spiritual concepts that would keep Christianity, in some form, within Europe.

    North America to be renamed Vinland !!!

  2. A German on August 4th, 2010 7:17 pm

    As reasonable Lowell’s Empire concept may be, it will never happen!
    You cannot unite all white country as a solid block.
    The maximum would be a federation or ideological similar white world. Nothing more.

    Hell, today I even spoke to a Catalonian who’s a total seperatist and tribalist. He wants to split up whole Spain, and even considers the other Spaniards, Kastillians, Navarrans, Basks, Galicians, Asturians as different races!

    Unbelieveable but true!

    Same in Serbia and Croatia, which I know from personal experience.
    Also in other European countries, Think of Bulgaria, who wants to annect Macedonia, Hungary (of course i speak of the nationalist spectrum from right-wing to NS) who wants to spread in all 4 cardinal directions.
    Austria who’s Marxist elites have created a strange and artificial “Austrianism”, a new nationality, although they’re clearly Germans.
    Then Flandria, who wants to split from Belgium but not join the Netherlands, although they’re Dutch too.
    The Swiss, which is a national trias and despite of that has a strong “nation”-feeling.
    All the divisions on the British Isles.

    Hell, we even can’t really hold together the EU.
    Perhaps because it’s a false plutocratic union, but it shows how diverse Whites are and how strong their will for national independance is.

    Then we’ve even in America seperatisitic movements:
    The South, traditionally.
    And the North West movement, new.

    Dr. Sunic gave already a good final verdict to this concept:
    “Wishful thinking”

    Sorry Mr. Lowell.

  3. Norman Lowell on August 5th, 2010 4:41 am

    @ A German

    “I even spoke to a Catalonian who’s a total seperatist and tribalist. He wants to split up whole Spain, and even considers the other Spaniards, Kastillians, Navarrans, Basks, Galicians, Asturians as different races!”

    Exactly! Hence an Imperium of Regions & Peoples!

    “Hungary (of course i speak of the nationalist spectrum from right-wing to NS) who wants to spread in all 4 cardinal directions.”

    These petty Nationalists will do nothing of the sort. The Elite, Imperium Army will teach them to be good Europeans.

    “Austria who’s Marxist elites have created a strange and artificial “Austrianism”, a new nationality, although they’re clearly Germans.”

    In our coming Imperium there will be neither Germany nor Austria. There will be the old regions: Prussia, Tyrol…

    “Then Flandria, who wants to split from Belgium but not join the Netherlands, although they’re Dutch too.”

    Excellent! We will help these freedom seeking regions to find themselves, cut the artificial bonds with their operatta so called countries, like Belgium.

    “The Swiss, which is a national trias and despite of that has a strong “nation”-feeling.”

    Switzerland is an artificial country if there ever was one. The German northerns (Basel) look down on the French (Geneve), who in turn, look down on the Ticino Italians. The Swiss would gladly break up into organic regions, within the protection of the Imperium.

    “it shows how diverse Whites are and how strong their will for national independance is.”

    Not so. All of your post is a defence of Regionalism, and the ineradicale roots of our diverse Peoples to their respective Regions. This is what the Imperium will ensure.

    “Then we’ve even in America seperatisitic movements:
    The South, traditionally.
    And the North West movement, new.”

    Of course – what’s wrong with Regionalism within Vinland?

    “Dr. Sunic gave already a good final verdict to this concept:
    “Wishful thinking”
    Sorry Mr. Lowell.”

    Could you kindly indicate where Dr. Sunic described the Imperium Europa concept as “Wishful thinking”?
    I seem to have missed it.
    Sorry Mr. A German

  4. johnUK on August 5th, 2010 7:45 am

    @Norman Lowell

    Sorry but I have to agree with A German although not in the regions he is talking about.

    The new EU states are pro Neocon/Zionist vassals especially the Czech Rep.

    And I don’t see how you can incorporate Russian into this Imperium which it would need its natural resources to fuel Europe energy needs in the future in the Mid 70’s the US estimated this that’s why there was a war in Afghanistan in 79 and all the wars in Europe and Eurasia and international Islamic terrorism and since then have done everything possible to undermine Russia which is too long to list so I won’t bother listing them.

    Most noticeably the missile shield, setting up Afghanistan drug basin and training terrorists to support destabilise North Caucasus, Central Asia and Xinjing, new US bases in Europe and all these multi-national NATO military exercises targeted at Russia.

    As we have seen in Ukraine and Georgia they have bolster extreme nationalism as a means to support US hegemony in the region.

  5. Ragnar on August 5th, 2010 8:32 am

    Dr. Sunic,

    Norman Lowell is saying very important things. Please have a part three.

  6. David on August 5th, 2010 8:47 am

    Keep on truck’n Norman …. some people are just ahead of their time, that’s all. The laggards will fall into place in time.

    “But the greatest opposition of all has not yet been named, the conflict which will take up all the others into itself. This is the battle of the Idea of the Unity of the West against the nationalism of the 19th century. Here stand opposed the ideas of Empire and petty- stateism, large-space thinking and political provincialism. Here find themselves opposed the miserable collection of yesterday-patriots and the custodians of the Future. The yesterday-nationalists are nothing but the puppets of the extra-European
    forces who conquer Europe by dividing it. To the enemies of Europe, there must be no rapprochement, no understanding, no union of the old units of Europe into a new unit, capable of carrying on 20th century politics.” – F.P. Yockey

  7. A German on August 5th, 2010 11:56 am

    @Mr. Lowell

    Dr. Sunic exactly said that on 39:20

    And if you want to split up my fatherland into regions, I cannot support your concept!
    It would be as you would tear me personally apart.
    German unity is a holy grail for me.
    We Germans had long enough to suffer under cleavage:
    The Communistic occupied GDR, the artificial Austria today, and the until today Italian occupied South Tyrolia (although I have no animositiy against Italians, but this issue still is a problem).

    Your concept of regions reminds me of the state of Germany in the 16th century, “Kleinstaaterei”, regionalism/sectionalism.
    And I cannot support such ideas.

    I’m for a white union of fatherlands, of peoples.

    Although your economic ideas are quite interesting and that, I could support.

  8. A German on August 5th, 2010 12:04 pm

    Because at the end Prussia was never a region!
    But also a federation of German regions.
    So it would make no sense to split Germany into Prussia, South Germany, Austria.

    Bavaria, even is a conglomerate of regions:
    Oberfranken, Unterfranken, Mittelfranken, Altschwaben, Pfalz, Niederbayern, Oberbayern.

    And Austria as a seperate entity is also weird.
    Because it’s also a conglomerate of German regions:
    Oberdonau, Niederdonau, Vienna, Burgenland, Tirol, Vorarlberg.

    And ethnically and linguistic Austrians are BAIERN, with an “i”.
    Bayern=Bavaria with a “y” describes the state.
    But Baiern with an “i” describes the ethnicity and reaches from the Bavarian Pfalz down to South Tyrolia and the Burgenland!

    So this whole artificial regional splitting up would make no sense at all!

  9. Rich on August 5th, 2010 4:13 pm

    I second a Part III. This is great stuff.

    I think the Empire with hyper-regionalism is a better and more natural fit for Europe than the current Union of Nation States.

    Nation States are artificial, not just in Europe, but throughout the world. The Muslim world, for example, would also be better off with a global Caliphate, regionalism and putting Arabic as their unifying language.

    Back to the Future…

  10. johnUK on August 5th, 2010 8:20 pm

    Norman Lowell is the only leader and speaker who actually has a plan no matter how unrealistic it is or not.

    It would be good if there was a European wide Imperium political party created by Lowell who would produce videos, scientific journals and defence journal like LaRouches organisation.

  11. Andor on August 5th, 2010 11:50 pm

    @Rich describes the current nation states as being artificial,as does Mr Lowell.The majority of nations in Europe are a political union of regions to form a greater nation.We must remember the grouping of regions are a union of people with common genetics and culture.I do agree with Mr Lowell’s beliefs regarding Switzerland.A split between France,Germany and Italy would be possible.

    So the majority of nation states in Europe are not “artificial”.The Soviet Union was artificial.Canada is more artificial than most nations in Europe.Yugoslavia is a fine example of a failed nation state.The various regions that made up the state are close by blood,language and culture but regional chauvinism is powerful.I agree with Croatia,Serbia,Slovenia etc being independent.

    I agree with @A German’s beliefs regarding “White union of Fatherlands of peoples”.I know many Germans are proud of their own particular region and some may think they are better in some ways or have a better football team,so what.Bavaria has better beer(my opinion) and so on.Here in Australia people in the state of Queensland think it’s a better state because of the warm weather and beaches.I prefer southern Victoria where i live for cooler weather.

    Many of the regions that make up the nations were borne out of petty bickering within a larger group of common blood and culture.The origins of Switzerland may have something to do with the Helvetii people developing their own region within the greater Celtic region.

    A few nation states in Europe are regions.Hungary is a good example.Transylvania was a part of it pre WW1 and they are the same people.So the “petty nationalists”(as Mr Lowell describes them) of Hungary are very regional nationalists.I suggest Mr Lowell have a read in to the Treaty of Trianon(not on Wikipedia!) and i will have a read of of Imperivm Evropa.The nationalists in that country are doing a fine job.Finland,Estonia,Latvia,Lithuania,region states as they are.England,Bulgaria,Malta and so on.

    I think Mr Lowell is mainly referring to in his theory the large multi region states France,Germany,Spain and Italy.Even Czechia and Poland could be split in to regions,some are German ones of course.

  12. A German on August 6th, 2010 4:04 am

    @Andor
    I agree with you.
    Most nation states are natural.

    In Germany there may be that some regions are proud of their local heritage (Bavaria, Cologne etc.) but at the end, all feel as Germans and rally arround the flag.

    It’s not comparable to the British situation, Scots-English or the Spanish situation: Castillia-Catalunya.

    And you’re right states like Switzerland are totally artificial.
    They exist only for bank interest, like the dwarf states of Andorra, Luxemburg, Lichtenstein, San Marino.

    I would like to see Switzerland to break up too and join the 3 neighbouring nations.
    But I fear that will not happen, because the plutocrcy never will allow that.
    It’s also remarkable that the Swiss, despite their national trias, have a strong patriotism. Perhaps enherited by the Celtic tribe of the Helvetii, I don’t know.

    The Swiss are the example for an accomplished concept of the “Yugoslavian unity & brotherhood”, which was a state doctrine back then when Yugoslavia was founded.
    In Switzerland such similar concept may have functioned, despite to Yugoslavia.

    The Swiss, who are 80% German, broke away in the 13th century from the Holy “Roman” Emipre (of German Nation) after only a few of minor battles with the Imperial army.

    Somehow the Swiss back then had a better military strategy.
    And then were welcomed in whole Europe as legionaries.
    That’s why the Pope until today has a Swiss guard.

    And finally this secession became officially aknowledge in the Westphalian Peace Agreement after the 30-years-War in 1648.

    I never understood why the German Empire never tried to conquer them back. At least it were only a couple of lost minor battles.
    I only can explain it with the German sectionalism in this time and that the “German” Emperor who later even was a Spaniard (Charles V.) had totally different objectives than German unity.
    The HRR (Heiliges Römische Reich Deutscher Nation= Holy “Roman” Empire of German Nation) was a supra state with worldwide approaches, colonies etc. and nationality didn’t really matter.

    And for Hungary, yes you’re right Andor, until 1945 they had 50% of the province Transsylvania, but even this geographically hose 50% of the inhabitants were Rumanians and other half were mainly Hungarians and some Germans (Donauschwaben).
    And so Mr. Lowell is right with his negative verdict about Hngarian nationalists!

    Who want to spread to all 4 cardnial directions (arrowcross) and annect mainly non-Hungarian land.
    Which is simply an utopy.
    They have claims on the whole province of Transilvannia, Croatia, Slovenja and even the German Burgenland.
    The only claim which is justified is the claim on Southern Slovakia, because back then it was mainly Hungarian.
    I don’t know how the situation is today, if the Hungarians got expelled from Slovakia like the Germans from Bohemia and Moravia.

    Also an interesting issue:
    Belgium.
    It looks now as Flandria and Wallonia really would break up.
    But interesting: No-one speak of the German strip in Eastern Belgium, the German communities arround Eupen-St. Vieth.
    I’m pretty sure if Belgium breaks up the Belgium-Germans will become part of the then established state of Wallonia, because our actual traitorous government never would accept the offer to take German territory back outside the FRG-borders.
    Because they fear that the international community could think Germany has a hunger for land again.
    Even if it’s only for a few cities in East-Belgium and the populous totally agrees to this reunion.

    That’s why chancelor Kohl renounced North-East- Prussia when the Russians offered us that in 1991!
    A historical chance missed.

  13. Andor on August 6th, 2010 5:37 am

    @A German,good comments.Regarding the nationalist Jobbik party in Hungary i was referring to what they are doing for Hungary and also having a voice in the Euro parliament.I agree the subject was over Hungary expanding in four cardinal directions.Some Hungarian nationalists still dream about this expansion to retrieve their lost territory.It will not happen.This does not change the fact that over 3 million of them still live in Transylvania and around half a million in Slovakia.They are decent sized minorities.Bratislava(Pozsony) was at one stage the capital.The new border to the north should have been a few hundred km north.Much present day squabbling between the two countries would have been avoided.

    People also forget Transylvania was part of Hungary for well over 1000 years.In the 19th-20th centuries the Romanian people slowly became a larger percentage in the area.

    @A German you have a good knowledge of European history,politics etc.

    I must read Mr Lowell’s book to get the full picture of what he is proposing.The end of wage slavery and the Banking system sounds good to me.Good beer and food will not be lost.

  14. Michael on August 6th, 2010 9:43 am

    @NORMAN

    Yes, there are artificial states in Europe; such as Switzerland and Belgium, but what about countries that are very much united as one people. What do you suggest for these nations?

  15. Rich on August 6th, 2010 4:39 pm

    Spain, UK, Italy, France and Belgium are all good candidates for breaking up into regions, and separatist movements already exist in each. So, there is already a large portion of the EU that might want regionalism.

    We really won’t know whether countries are actually “united as one people” until these people are confronted with a choice of region or nation.

    I don’t think it matters whether a region is large or small, but a process to put the natural order in place is a good step forward. I’m baffled that some think European borders are natural, and then the same people list a litany of examples of regional identities and provide examples of countries that could be broken up…whatever…

    Regardless of the borders, multi-racial European football teams, ethnic Turks as German politicians, etc. does suggest that genes and culture are no longer associated with the identity of the European Nation State. The increasingly multi-racial identity of the European Nation States may lead Whites to look local for their identity…

  16. A German on August 6th, 2010 7:46 pm

    @Rich
    Quote: “I’m baffled that some think European borders are natural, and then the same people list a litany of examples of regional identities and provide examples of countries that could be broken up…”

    You have to differentiate!
    German borders are mainly natural because they’re determined by one homogenous nation!

    You cannot compare that to Belgium or switzerland with 2 or 3 nations in its borders.

    Quote:
    “Regardless of the borders, multi-racial European football teams, ethnic Turks as German politicians, etc. does suggest that genes and culture are no longer associated with the identity of the European Nation State.”

    Wrong again!
    the people don’t decide who plays in their national teams!!!
    If they could, all European teams would be all-white!
    That’s why at the Eurovison Song Contest never a Negro wins, because there the people can decide directly via phone!

    That’s why the last “French” candidate for the Eurovison, a Negro, criticized it as “racism” that he didn’t win.

    In football such abomination is possible because Multi Cultist took over the clubs and the national associations!
    The fans would decide differently.

    In France, white French, true French, mainly abondoned football and turned to rugby.

    And I remember back in the 1990s when Negros were greeted with chimp sounds in the German stadions.
    Lazio Rome even was openly NS till recently when the maFIFA forced them to change course.

    That shows: The true Europeans are not happy with this situaton, but they have no voice, everything gets Political Correct-ized.

    In my football club we had a strong NS Ultra scene, but they got totally outcasted and incriminated because the German Football Association DFB blackmailed my club.

    And back to the regions.
    If you split everthing into regions, you still have the Multi Cult there!
    Paris, the Cote Azur, parts of England, London, Berlin, Hamburg, Ruhr area, South Sweden, Amsterdam, Rotterdam, are totally lost!

    Brussels is no European city anymore, despite it’s Europe’s capital!

    Splitting everything into regions wouldn’t change that!
    Not one bit!

  17. Norman Lowell on August 7th, 2010 3:50 am

    @Michael
    “Yes, there are artificial states in Europe; such as Switzerland and Belgium, but what about countries that are very much united as one people. What do you suggest for these nations?”

    There is not one, not one White country that is organically whole.
    Germany was united by the Iron Chancellor quite recently.
    It is a composition of Regions all speaking German – just like Austria (Carpathia etc.,)

    Returning to the Regions means reinforcing identity, character, custom.
    And all, all the major groups would be protected by the Imperium.
    Imperium and Dominium.

    Nothing would change really, except:
    1) that the Imperium is the only concept capable of cleaning up the stables from the millions infesting our Heartland.
    2) the Imperium, in itself will prevent further fratricidal follies amongst cousin Peoples.
    3) the Imperium is the only way the White Man, 5% of the worlds burgeoning population, can defend himself from the billions pressing at the gates – and the Hidden Enemy within.

    What happens if we had to allow GERMANY to remain intact and split all the others into organic regions?
    Don’t you think that we will again hear the echo of the goose-step?
    We would start the whole comedy of errors once again.

    Here, from the horse’s mouth:
    @A German
    ” never understood why the German Empire never tried to conquer them back. At least it were only a couple of lost minor battles.”
    The mentality!

    We of Imperium Europa do not want a dominating Nation State lording it over the rest.
    Those times are past – we need to think big, think Imperial, think White!
    Otherwise, we carry on as we are, onwards to certain perdition.

    An Imperium led by an Elite composed of the best, a judicious mixture of Anglo Saxons, Teutons, Slavs and Latins – strict meritocracy.

    It can be done!

  18. Chris ( Malta) on August 7th, 2010 4:17 am

    I believe it can be done and I feel that European white people from all over the world should unite under this Imperium ideology and make it happen. What a vision of great politics, at last !

  19. Michael on August 7th, 2010 8:48 am

    @NORMAN

    What about newly formed states, such as Croatia, Estonia, Lithuania etc…..These countries fought long and hard for sovereignty and self identity. Are you saying that it is possible to breakdown a tiny country like Estonia into smaller pieces?

    This is all very fascinating, but a bit confusing at the same time. I like your spirit and enthusiasm, and i am very much in favor of protecting and maintaining, even the tiniest; cultural, linguistic and ethnic groups in Europe, but i remain skeptical; that a large population of Europeans(other than separatist groups like the Basques and Flemish) would vote for your ideas.

  20. Norman Lowell on August 7th, 2010 9:08 am

    @ Micahel

    “What about newly formed states, such as Croatia, Estonia, Lithuania etc….”

    Whether these states will break up into smaller Regions, will be decided by themselves.
    Nova Europa will be a beacon, a reference point in Brussels, encouraging such breakaways.
    The more, the smaller the Regions – the better!

    “i remain skeptical; that a large population of Europeans(other than separatist groups like the Basques and Flemish) would vote for your ideas.”

    The masses will not be voting for Imperium – they will be voting for greater autonomy.
    It will be the Regional Authorits that will find it imperative to join the Imperium, in order to protect themselves from larger, neighbouring Regions.
    Our victory will come from the top – not the democratic bottom.

    It can be done!

  21. Michael on August 7th, 2010 12:03 pm

    @ NORMAN

    What you are proposing; i think will eventually happen(naturally) on its own. Correct me if i am wrong; your intent is not necessarily to create a new Europe(much like the EU has done), instead, what you propose to do is; facilitate/enforce this organically occurring shift that is taking place in different parts of Europe, as well as the US(state secession) and other White nations?

  22. A German on August 7th, 2010 1:16 pm

    @Mr. Lowell
    Please give us a hint how you exactly imagine the new regions!
    Like that?:
    http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/5126/imperivmevropa.jpg

    Here’s the master, give it a try:
    http://blog.indigo-online.eu/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/tabula-2008-10-cm1.jpg

    I guess MALTA you won’t split into pieces;-)

  23. johnUK on August 7th, 2010 3:58 pm

    What exactly infrastructure wise is Lowell proposing for the Imperium?

    What does he propose about the mass media which is not free and not independent of the government?
    One family in Europe the Rothschilds controls about 60% of the media like The Guardian media group in Britain, Le Monde in France and others as well as through their front men like Soros things like B92, Voice of America, MoveOn.org, etc.

    Then you have to contend with constant interference in the domestic policy of nation states like we seen in Serbia and in Belarus, Ukraine, Georgia, China, Russia, etc who run phoney human rights groups and NGO’S, financing opposition media and political parties and training youth activists as well as promoting things like gay rights, abortion, drug legalisation and open immigration to undermine any country not in line with the NWO.

    So how does Lowell suppose the Imperium tackle this issue?

  24. Hector on August 7th, 2010 4:29 pm

    Peoples unite according to what they feel is right for them. There’s nothing unnatural about Switzerland and Belgium. These two countries simply united on basis of other considerations than ethnicity. The Swiss united in a military pact. Like an early version of Nato. The two peoples of Belgium united on the basis of both belonging to the Catholic culture. The Flemish thought that this was more important than speaking the same language as the Dutch.

    There’s also the question why Holland isn’t a part of Germany. In short, when Spain, a superpower at the time, ruled over the Low Countries, she wanted to differeniate her Germanic subjects from other Germans as much as possible. So that the Dutch wouldn’t feel like allying themselves with the rest of the Germans.

    The various ethnicities of Yugoslavia were united, not by referendums, but by small cliques of “intellectuals”, who mindlessly went after linguistic similarity. Croats and Serbs could culturally just as well be from different planets. Yugoslavia was, like Switzerland, also partly created as a way of fending off bigger neighbors. Today, the ordinary Croat would probably rather try the Black Plague than unite with anything that resembles Serbia.

    Sweden and Norway used to be in a union at a time. The Norwegians desperately wanted to break up that union, despite being much poorer than the Swedes (at the time, now it’s the other way around). The date of the dissolution between Norway and Sweden is today the national holiday number one in Norway. Also the Norwegians choose the dialect most dissimilar from Swedish as their Standard Language.

    Finland, which used to be both a province of Russia, and part of Sweden, will have none of it again.

    I could go on more, but these examples show that an Empire will have to be achieved by military means and forced upon its subjects. We all know what happened to all empires in history, and what is happening to the American Empire right now.

    Also, merely counting race and whiteness is silly. All the ethnicities in my examples above are racially close to each other. A Norwegian is racially the same as a Swede. However, you are wrong if you think that these peoples can’t see the difference between one of them and one of the others. A Croat told me that he can immediately see who is a Croat and who is a Serb. Blond Croats don’t look like blond Serbs. Swarthy Croats don’t look like swarthy Serbs.

    Imperium is, I guess, the Roman Empire v2.0?

    We pretty much have that already. The USA is such a creature. Even in countries where there are no US troops, the open or hidden hand of the USA is always present. Soft power wise, hard power wise and by undermining local political structures it deems unwanted.

    All the countries mentioned above, plus most other, could be correctly called “American Pultronate of Sweden, Norway, Croatia, Begium, etc”

    This will of course end the moment the American economy crashes. With no economy, there will be no superpower. Or rather no power at all.

  25. Untergegangen on August 8th, 2010 12:38 am

    “So this whole artificial regional splitting up would make no sense at all!”

    What is artificial is the regions melting into nations. As you’ve put so well, the regions Lowell talks about are alive and well. There is no such thing as a German, A German.

    A German from where? Which accent? Leather-Shorts or no Leather-Shorts? Which sub-racial group, Nordic or Alpine?

    Uniting Germany was a great trouble even to the Man himself. He sought to do so with his Autobahns. Today the union is through guilt.

    I understand and I respect the concept of multiple regions with peculiar cultures. This would also keep the various sub-races of the White race alive and well. Keep them all from killing each other, once the non-white menace is gone, is what will be the toughest part.

    We would have to keep expanding and when there was nowhere else to expand into, the best Whites would eventually demand a bigger piece of the pie and try to dominate the others. Which, I believe, is completely natural. I want the best to rule this Earth.

    On the other hand we have 60 years of peace in Europe with each tribe caring its own business (most doing it wrong – or there would be no occupation). Maybe this peace really could be extended indefinitely.

  26. Chris ( Malta) on August 8th, 2010 2:26 am

    The guy above does not like the plan, I wonder why ? Then it must be good …LOL

  27. Norman Lowell on August 8th, 2010 2:53 am

    @ Michael

    “What you are proposing; i think will eventually happen(naturally) on its own. Correct me if i am wrong; your intent is not necessarily to create a new Europe(much like the EU has done), instead, what you propose to do is; facilitate/enforce this organically occurring shift that is taking place in different parts of Europe, as well as the US(state secession) and other White nations?”

    Spot on! Regions will emerge organically, not forced.
    The People themselves will choose the Region they feel they belong to – through Race, religion, dialect, tradition, custom, …
    Over some 20 years after Nova Europa is formed, there will be a natural movement and settlement of sub-groupings.

    Nothing will be imposed on the Dominium, except the 5 prerogatives of the Imperium – The Elite:

    Spirituality (Cosmotheism) for the Elite
    Race (An Imperium for Europids only)
    High Culture (as against the present economic EU)
    High Politics (grand politics as against petty nationalism)
    Territory (never to be ceded) – Imperium frontiers pushed to the limit.

    An Imperium Europa of free Regions and free Peoples.
    A planetary Imperium uniting the White Race: the Europids.
    It can be done!

  28. A German on August 8th, 2010 2:58 am

    @Untergegangen
    QUOTE:
    “So this whole artificial regional splitting up would make no sense at all!”
    What is artificial is the regions melting into nations. As you’ve put so well, the regions Lowell talks about are alive and well. There is no such thing as a German, A German.
    A German from where? Which accent? Leather-Shorts or no Leather-Shorts? Which sub-racial group, Nordic or Alpine?
    Uniting Germany was a great trouble even to the Man himself. He sought to do so with his Autobahns. Today the union is through guilt.”

    What a stupid comment!
    But the last sentence is even mega stupid!

    Yes, the German nation is determined by several subraces:
    Nordid, Falid, Dinarid, Alpinoid, East-Baltid, Mediterranid.
    But they’re all part of the Aryan race: R1b, I, R1a.

    A nation is not only determined by its subrace, but also by its common language, history and culture.
    Because a nation is not equal a race!

    And beleive or not, but even in Bavaria most Germans don’t wear leather-shorts. And even if, that makes them not a tiny bit less German! Also what what German dialect you speak doesn’t matter.
    Dialect is not accent, stupid!
    What a stupid remark.

    AND NEVER AGAIN BOY TELL ME THAT THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS GERMAN! UNDERSTAND ME?
    BOY?

    That’s jew talk! Like “there is no white race”, “there are no races, we’re all just ONE human race”

    And your mega stupid last sentence shows that you know nothing about the unification process of Germany!
    Adolf Hitler didn’t unite Germany! That was the magnum opus of Bismarck. And before Bismarck the Germans lived in several dwarf states, but they always had, for centuries, the consciousness of Oneness!
    “From the river Maas to the river Memel, from river Etsch to the Belt!”
    This poetry was written long before Germany was united as a state and it was no chauvinism, but the poetic encirclement of German living space and the feeling of common bond!

    And Adolf Hitler did much more than just building “Autobahns”
    (Autobahnen is the correct plural, stupid)
    My blue tick nose senses Liberal propaganda speak.
    Agitprop.

    You can’t decieve the people UntergegangenesGehirn.

  29. Norman Lowell on August 8th, 2010 2:59 am

    @ A German

    “Please give us a hint how you exactly imagine the new regions!
    Here’s the master, give it a try:
    http://blog.indigo-online.eu/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/tabula-2008-10-cm1.jpg

    It is not for me, nor The Elite to impose Regional frontiers.
    It will be the People themselves who will choose –
    through direct democracy on the Swiss cantonal system.

    Thank you for uploading the maps.
    As one can see, the Regions predate the artificial Nation States by thousands of years.
    We must return to our origins – we must find ourselves again.

    It can be done!

  30. A German on August 8th, 2010 3:02 am

    @UntergegangenesHirn
    Why do you think one says “Third Reich”?

    Because before that, Germans had to other Reiche!
    The second: 1871-1918
    and
    the first: 911-1866, stupid!

  31. A German on August 8th, 2010 3:14 am

    @Mr. Lowell
    QUOTE:
    “As one can see, the Regions predate the artificial Nation States by thousands of years.”

    No. The regional borders are even more artificial!
    Some examples:

    The federal state of Northrhine-Westphalia consists of 3 regions
    Northern Rhineland, Westphalia and Lippe. And then even several subregions.

    The federal state of Saxony-Anhalt consistst of the Altmark, Prussian Saxony and the duchy of Anhalt!

    The federal state of Rhineland-Palatine consists of the Southern Rhineland and the Rhinish Palatine.

    And on and on and on.

    Regional borders are even more artificial!
    That’s why people living on one side of a regional border and on the other side don’t care about a regional border.
    But they care about national borders.

    QUOTE:
    “We must return to our origins – we must find ourselves again.
    It can be done!”

    NO! I don’t think so.
    Sectionalism makes us weak!
    As the Holy Roman Empire of German Nation, which was so weak that later all neighbours took away territory from them and let their armies march through the “Empire”.

    A new sectionalism would make us weak in the same way and prepare Islamic conquest.

    Malta would be already Tunesian if not strong nation states like Italy and Britian would have protected their souvereignity.

  32. Norman Lowell on August 8th, 2010 3:34 am

    @ A German
    “Malta would be already Tunesian if not strong nation states like Italy and Britian would have protected their souvereignity.”

    Actually, Britain and Italy went to war in the greatest fratricidal folly since WWI.
    In their great anxiousness to protect Malta’s sovereignty, this Sacred Island became the most heavily bombed area per square mile during the war (Kesserling).
    In our world, it will not be rivals like England and Italy who will protect us from the Muslims – but a planetary Imperium uniting all Europids.

    It can be done!

  33. Chris ( Malta) on August 8th, 2010 5:58 am

    Once again the guy above does not like the plan, knowing it makes good sense. He must be one of those ugly monkeys who cannot join.
    Sorry, people of European origin as members, please stay outside the door.
    LOL

  34. johnUK on August 8th, 2010 7:40 am

    @Norman Lowell

    What about the points I raised in my last comment before you even start about how states should be realigned?

  35. Bob on August 8th, 2010 8:09 am

    .
    Mr. Lowell,

    I have ordered your book Imperium Europa, and intend on studying it. I likely have some disagreement with you, but will read before commenting.

    Thank you!

    14Bob

    P.S. Please note Tom Metzger’s Political Positions at http://tommetzgerforcongress.com/FactSheet.html.

  36. Norman Lowell on August 8th, 2010 8:50 am

    @ johnUK
    “What exactly infrastructure wise is Lowell proposing for the Imperium?”

    The Imperium consists of 2 forces: Masculine & Feminine.
    Imperium and Dominium.
    Imperium’s prerogatives are the 5 mentioned in a previous post.

    Dominium is the realm of the Regions – free to enact their own laws, tax, whatever.
    A truly Libertarian Dominium with the Regions competing amongst themselves.
    One Euro currency, backed by gold, issued by the Imperium’s central bank, throughout the Imperium.

    10% of whatever tax the Regions choose to impose will go to the Imperium.
    This will maintain the Elite structure, army, etc.,
    In return, the Imperium guarantees the Dominium.

    “What does he propose about the mass media which is not free and not independent of the government?”

    The Internal, Eternal Enemy will be put in its place.
    They will be dumped and quarantined in Madagascar or, preferably Tasmania to live as normal, human beings.
    We shall see what their nation-building capacity is, without American largesse and holyhoax handouts.
    They have no nation-building capacity in their 4,000 year long history – they have always lived as parasites.

    “One family in Europe the Rothschilds controls about 60% of the media like The Guardian media group in Britain, Le Monde in France and others as well as through their front men like Soros things like B92, Voice of America, MoveOn.org, etc.”

    The Rothschilds and their like can control the mass media in Madagascar or Tasmania.

    “Then you have to contend with constant interference in the domestic policy of nation states like we seen in Serbia and in Belarus, Ukraine, Georgia, China, Russia, etc who run phoney human rights groups and NGO’S, financing opposition media and political parties and training youth activists as well as promoting things like gay rights, abortion, drug legalisation and open immigration to undermine any country not in line with the NWO.”

    The more, the smaller the Regions, the better.
    Nothing will be tolerated in the Imperium that goes against the 5 prerogatives of The Elite.
    Immigration into the Imperium will be halted by the forming Elite Army, with drastic countermeasures.
    All non-Europids within, will be flushed out through starvation, since they will not possess an EID, without which you become a non-person.
    They will all leave on their own within six months.

    “So how does Lowell suppose the Imperium tackle this issue?”

    Priority No 1; formation of the CORE group of 12.
    2: Formation of 2nd tier of 144.
    3: Formation of Nova Europa group in Brussels, instead of the present AENM (Alliance of European Nationalist Movements).
    4: Dislocation of Regions from the artificial Nation States.
    5: Encouragement by Nova Europa of further fragmentation of each Region into its smallest components: (always by direct, democratic vote based on the Swiss cantonal system).
    6: Launching the Imperium from The Sacred Island of Melita in Dec 2012.
    7: Nova Europa declared Imperium Europa as soon as enough clout obtained in Brussels (through MEPs voted from liberated Regions) – circa 2014.
    8: Imperium Europa forms the structure of The Elite through a unified European Army, culling the ranks and inserting Warriors, instead of soldiers.
    9: Gradual organic movements and settlements of sub-groups into their respective Region (like with like).
    10: Liberating White countries outside Europe; (USA, Australia/NZ, Latin American White Cone, Southern Africa.

    It can be done!

  37. Andor on August 8th, 2010 9:58 am

    @Norman Lowell,

    “The Internal,Eternal Enemy will be put in it’s place.
    They will be dumped and quarantined in Madagascar or preferably Tasmania to live as normal human beings”.

    Why Tasmania?An island state of Australia which is one of the purest White European regions on the planet.Australia is still well over 90% white European.Liberation from the banking system,wage slavery and Zionist NWO is of course necessary as with Europe,USA etc.

    Many of your ideas sound good.The idea of an elite as overlord seems much the same as what we have now and always had.How about Europe as it was,individual independent nations or regions.As someone else mentioned here it is similar to a Roman empire.Which of course is going backwards.Central control or administration is too much control as you are now experiencing with the EU.

    As i mentioned earlier Norman i must read your book to get the full picture of your ideas.Good to see you are willing to interact with the listeners.All the best with your work.

  38. Norman Lowell on August 8th, 2010 10:22 am

    @ Andor

    “Why Tasmania?An island state of Australia which is one of the purest White European regions on the planet.

    Because of its remoteness. Penguins to the south, as neighbours and deep waters seperating it from Australia – deep waters and no islands in between. Easily monitored.

    From Madagascar the parasites could “hop, skip and jump” – and before you know it, they will be all over us again.

    Anyway, the ideal choice will be made later after careful consideration, paramount of which is that wherever we dump them, they must be hermetically sealed.

    “How about Europe as it was,individual independent nations or regions.”

    We can’t do that – or we will start the comedy of errors all over again!

    “Central control or administration is too much control as you are now experiencing with the EU.”

    But there will be no central control except for the 5 prerogatives of The Imperium.
    The Regions will be free in all other respects.
    A truly Libertarian (not Liberal) Dominium of Free Regions and Free Peoples.

    “As i mentioned earlier Norman i must read your book to get the full picture of your ideas.Good to see you are willing to interact with the listeners.All the best with your work.”

    Yes, do read my book and form your own opinion.
    Also, read the upcoming book by Caius Marcus “The Imperiam Manifesto” which goes into the nitty gritty, the nuts and bolts of IE.

    It is my pleasure to answer pertinent, serious comments.
    And I must thank Dr Sunic and VoR for giving me this opportunity to present my ideology.

  39. johnUK on August 8th, 2010 1:35 pm

    @Norman Lowell

    I hope you do more English language videos on YouTube and a quite lengthily Q&A session it would be very interesting.

    I don’t see how you can have a coalition of nationalist states in a European Empire?

    Seems to be a contradiction in terms and will inevitably lead to conflict.

  40. Norman Lowell on August 8th, 2010 2:28 pm

    London New Right Conferences:

    2005
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7fNEzt2W20

    2007
    http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-2051037657435816610#

    2008
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ghMDXhWVGI

    I will be speaking, along with Dr Tom Sunic at the New Right Conference later on this year:
    IMPLEMENTING THE IMPERIUM
    It will be filmed and uploaded on UTube.

    “I don’t see how you can have a coalition of nationalist states in a European Empire? ”

    Many of these Nationalist Movements, already represented in Brussels, have accepted the Imperium IDEA.
    It is a battle of Culture.
    We have to educate, convince all Nationalist Movements to sublimate their love for their respective artificial Nation States into a greater love for the whole White Race:
    IMPERIUM EUROPA

    It can be done!

  41. Norman Lowell on August 8th, 2010 2:32 pm

    You may view my 3 speeches at the London New Right Conferences on my website: Imperium Europa – under the icon Lowell Speaks:

    I will be speaking, along with Dr Tom Sunic at the New Right Conference later on this year:
    IMPLEMENTING THE IMPERIUM

    “I don’t see how you can have a coalition of nationalist states in a European Empire? ”

    Many of these Nationalist Movements, already represented in Brussels, have accepted the Imperium IDEA.
    It is a battle of Culture.
    We have to educate, convince all Nationalist Movements to sublimate their love for their respective artificial Nation States into a greater love for the whole White Race:
    IMPERIUM EUROPA

    It can be done!

  42. johnUK on August 8th, 2010 8:18 pm

    @Norman Lowell

    Yes I have seen your New Right speeches before

    How come there is not a 2009 NR speech? Did you not attend?

    No other speeches or interviews in English other than these?

    Where is the Euronews interview?

    As far as nationalist governments go what happens when they start argue over history and historical territory disputes flare up like we had seen in the Balkans.

    There maybe a consensus between a handful of nationalist leaders who follow your Imperium idea but historically alliances and agreements have come and gone.

    German and Poland had mutual agreements in 1934 but by 1939 they were at war with each other.

  43. A German on August 9th, 2010 12:11 am
  44. Norman Lowell on August 9th, 2010 5:36 am

    @ johnUK

    How come there is not a 2009 NR speech? Did you not attend?
    No other speeches or interviews in English other than these?
    Where is the Euronews interview?

    Regretfully, I could not attend the 2009 NR Conference due to my Court Cases that coincided with the date.

    Here are some speeches in English:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5PM2htXoG8

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFWwqN9NYTE

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9sMDEON3to

    “As far as nationalist governments go what happens when they start argue over history and historical territory disputes flare up like we had seen in the Balkans.”

    There will be the growing pains of the Imperium.
    Friction over borders amongst the Regions.
    But in the meantime the Imperial Elite Army would be forming.
    It would intervene and settle matters when it would be glaringly obvious that one Region is overstepping its natural territory.

    Within 20 years everything would settle down, as the Regions and Peoples form themselves organically.
    The Culture of Imperium, of everyone of us being true Europeans first, would seep in.

    “There maybe a consensus between a handful of nationalist leaders who follow your Imperium idea but historically alliances and agreements have come and gone.

    German and Poland had mutual agreements in 1934 but by 1939 they were at war with each other.”

    We must remember that the Hidden Enemy used Nationalism to set us up against each other.
    It was Britain and the USA who pushed the myopic Poles to resist the German, perfectly reasonable demands regarding Danzig.
    In our Imperium the parasites would be rendered impotent, worldwide, throughout the Imperium.
    Regions not Nation States, would be quite happy to find themselves within their Sacred Geography.

    Yes, we have leaders within Nationalist Movements already in Brussels, who agree with IE and look forward to it.
    It is a battle for an IDEA – we have to convince the rest that there is no other way for the White Man.
    It can be done!

    @ A German

    Thank you for uploading the IE flag – very nice of you!
    It wouldn’t look too bad, fluttering alongside the various German Regional flags, would it?!

    Theme of flag :
    The Lightning & The Sun – Action with Vision.
    Cosmic Conciousness.

  45. johnUK on August 9th, 2010 8:00 pm

    @Norman Lowell

    It would be good when explaining your Imperium idea to an audience that it be accompanied by a visual presentation using something like Powerpoint which would be more effective in promoting your concept.

  46. Pall on August 10th, 2010 2:01 pm

    Racialists are evil and stupid.

  47. Greg Eric Paulson on August 10th, 2010 3:40 pm

    Just read all the comments, i thoroughly enjoyed the interviews and discussion. Thank you very much Norman for clarifying your points in this comment section! It saved me a lot of breath! I was getting very frustrated with what seems to be some sort of disconnect with many of the commenters. I was prepared to go on long winded explanations of what I believe they should have gathered from the interviews (or because they have not read Imperium by F.P. Yockey and other similar works). And I haven’t even received my copy of Imperium Europa yet (it’s in the mail)!!

    I must say I am rather impressed with your system, it really does seem like it could work very well. I only have a few minor disagreements and mostly a few things I am concerned/not sure about yet coming from the Hierarchical, highly ordered philosophy I do.

    My single and strongest disagreement would be using the gold standard. This idea seems to be leftover from the previous centuries of ultra-rationalist, materialist and capitalist mindset. That being said, I will point out that A) the biggest issue with the gold standard is that gold is largely controlled/owned by jews (which wouldn’t be an issue in the Imperium) B) the amount of gold does not fluctuate with the population like it should (i.e. the population grows larger than we have of gold, so over time this would make people “worth” less and less). And for that matter basing it on any kind of metal would have the same problem. I would personally favor either a fiat currency (run by the responsible elite aristocracy this would work) or something like they had in the National Socialist system (though I have some philosophical issues with this because of it’s origins in the materialistic mindset of the 20th century). But even this issue with the gold standard in trivial. Even if it was implemented, who cares when you look at the big picture? You can’t expect to please everyone. Almost NO ONE will be 100% satisfied with ANY system, but the most important things, I believe ARE realized by Lowell and Imperium Europa.

    And let me remind everyone that we should NOT concern ourselves with minor details (I.e. the borders of this region or that) that main overall goal, structure, and spirit are what’s important.

    Lowell is actually much nicer to many of the whites who are opposed to his system and obsessed with 19th and 20th century materialism and petty-nationalism. I would gladly kick such morons out on their asses, maybe they can live in Africa or some other place OUTSIDE of Imperium Europa. (…or I’m sure we could find those who would gladly sever the heads of those opposed to a United Europe ;)

    Oh and great news, as I was writing this comment I received my copy of Imperium Europa!

    -Greg

  48. Norman Lowell on August 10th, 2010 4:48 pm

    @ Greg Eric Paulson

    “My single and strongest disagreement would be using the gold standard…
    …the amount of gold does not fluctuate with the population like it should (i.e. the population grows larger than we have of gold, so over time this would make people “worth” less and less).”

    With our system of finance promoting only Loans for a Higher Purpose, a High Culture: inflation would become a thing of the past.
    Therefore the propensity to invest or hoard gold will practically disappear as the Euro would hold its value.
    Useless thousands of tons of hoarded gold, earning no interest will be changed into Euros.

    There is also the potential of huge gold discoveries offshore, around the Falklands for example.
    Also gold deposits on the moon, Mars, meteors when good money will not be thrown into black hellholes, but invested in space exploration.

    “And let me remind everyone that we should NOT concern ourselves with minor details (I.e. the borders of this region or that) that main overall goal, structure, and spirit are what’s important.”

    Correct!
    ‘Don’t bother me with details’ as the British would say.
    It is the overall IDEA that must be grasped, intuitively, completely.
    Things will fall into place, once the Priorities I listed in a previous post start being implemented.

    “Oh and great news, as I was writing this comment I received my copy of Imperium Europa!”

    The Book is written in an easy style – an artistic style, really.
    A series of thoughts, seemingly disjointed, but brought together along the way.
    Enjoy!

  49. Mishko Novosel on August 10th, 2010 7:19 pm

    @Pall, are we starting to get to you multiculturial loving blood suckers?

    That’s good, it warms my heart. It means we’re doing our job.

    All the best,

    Mishko

  50. Greg Eric Paulson on August 10th, 2010 8:59 pm

    Oh and I third it, we demand a third interview with Norman Lowell!

  51. Akira on August 10th, 2010 11:53 pm

    Not just a third interview — Give this man his own show!

    He’s hilarious. Very entertaining. His caricature is a riot.

    I especially enjoyed the ravings about the genetic testing that would be required before anyone can buy or sell, the mad schemes for perpetual warfare of whites against all non-whites, and the Elder of White-Zion secret council.

    Keep up the good work!

    It’s good that you can make fun of yourselves like this.

  52. Akira on August 10th, 2010 11:57 pm

    Of course, you might have some problems if the 9/10 non-white population of the planet starts applying these same measures to the small white minority. Let’s hope they realize that characters like Lowell and not intended to be taken seriously!

  53. Edgardus de la Vega on August 11th, 2010 12:26 am

    Interesting interview… I agree that culture over corporate commerce is the only key to racial survival in Europe. Corporatism simply dilutes regional conditions from cuisine to history books.

    When I first laid eyes upon a McDonald’s outlet in Madrid of 1992, I was simply flummoxed. They actually served Big Macs with wine.

    The NWO enemy is ingenious indeed. The re-definition of reality has been their modus operandi.

  54. Andor on August 11th, 2010 1:32 am

    @Greg Eric Paulson,

    You should be thankful of the people you refer to as morons who need to be kicked out on their arse.Without them you and your ancestors for the last 500-700 years would be speaking a Middle Eastern or East Asian language.If they survived the head severing.As well you would be part or completely non-White and have no computer on which to express your anarchist/socialist and ignorant views.Obviously confused.

    You should be reading books by Karl Marx and co.

  55. Greg Eric Paulson on August 11th, 2010 2:07 pm

    @Andor

    You criticize my comments and beliefs and label them Marxist because you have no idea what I’m talking about. If you had read Yockey’s Imperium or even Spengler you might have a better idea of what I was referring to. Nationalism is relevant only for the 19th and 20th centuries. It served it’s purpose but it’s time to move on and look towards the future of Europa. We can no longer afford to be divided like we are. The West is a SINGLE political and spiritual unit. Every other people realizes this about us except ourselves.

    Lol terms such as Fascist, Traditionalist an Archeo-Futurist are more accurate since I have beliefs from all. Marxism on the other hand is one of the most degenerate systems upholding and philosophical rule by the Fourth Estate (the plebeian/laborers), the least qualified caste/people in civilization. The Third Estate of merchants are almost equally as unqualified to run society. To me the Third and Fourth Estates are almost identical in disgust. The fact of the matter is that these two elements are of the servant class and are not meant to rule period.

    This is part of the reason I like Lowell’s Imperium Europa idea with the elite/aristocracy. Despite the fact that the Imperium seems more liberal (in the classical sense..which would include Libertarians) than I would like, it seems like the only real hope for Greater Europe. Anyways, with my limited understanding of the Imperium Europa Idea, regions or smaller areas in the Imperium could enact more hierarchical laws with less leniency given to the plebs who NEED to be led and restricted by laws if you expect them to behave in a constructive and non-degenerate way.

    And no I would not be a member of the the upper elite, but more likely one of the “culture-bearing” elements of society as Yockey would put it.

    Honestly, there is little point in arguing with you anymore. Why don’t you start educating yourself and expanding your limited horizons. I don’t have the time or the patience to explain concepts to you that have already been explained better than I could put them.

  56. Carolyn on August 11th, 2010 3:32 pm

    “The West is a SINGLE political and spiritual unit. ”

    Wrong. You can’t even begin to defend that statement.

    And I will use your own ending comment to Andor to tell you:
    Honestly, there is little point in arguing with you.

  57. Greg Eric Paulson on August 11th, 2010 4:51 pm

    Lol “you’re wrong!” and no explanation. Wasn’t that a bit pointless?

    Well at least we agree that our points of view are do not coincide and there is no point in argument.

  58. Pall on August 11th, 2010 5:05 pm

    Race mixing is great.

  59. Horus on August 11th, 2010 5:12 pm

    @Pall, ROFL you little bloodsucker, this is why Brazil is such a role model for the modern world. Hey I got an idea, why don’t you go to Rio de Janeiro and take a walk around town at night, race mix a bit with the locals, knock up a few mongrels, get stabbed in the alley. Simply paradise. I recommend you immigrate there from this horrible, White racist country and never come back. I don’t see how you can even stand living here, since it’s so White and racist. Ciao.

  60. A German on August 11th, 2010 7:58 pm

    This “Pall” type is really funny!
    XD
    Does this Commie really think he effects anything here with his stupid troll comments?
    Man, Liberalism is REALLY a mental disorder!
    And Liberals really have too much time if they go on such fora as here and can state all the time these stupid subverisve comments!

    PALL wake up!
    Nobody here shares your sick opinion!
    You will convert nobody by this stupidity!
    You just effect the oposite!
    So stop this trolling, get a life, “race mix a bit”!
    LOL
    XD

  61. Horus on August 11th, 2010 9:48 pm

    @German I got a little song for our commie friend Pall, dedicated to all racemixers just like him:

    10 kleine Kommi-Schweine sollten es bereuen, einer kam nach Ostberlin
    da waren’s nur noch 9.

    9 kleine Kommie-Schweine wollten Straßenschlacht, einen traf der Pflasterstein da waren’s nur noch 8.

    8 kleine Kommie-Schweine wollten Schwuchteln lieben, machten keinen “Safer-Sex” da waren’s nur noch 7

    7 kleine Kommie-Schweine machten “Safer-Sex”, einem dem riß sein Kondom da waren’s nur noch 6.

    6 kleine Kommie-Schweine Rot bis auf die Strümpf, machten einen Skinhead an da waren’s nur noch 5.

    5 kleine Kommie-Schweine wollten deutsches Bier, in unser’m Landser -Sturmlokal da waren’s nur noch 4.

    4 kleine Kommie-Schweine ein *PIEP!* auch dabei, der frass ne Wurst aus Schweinefleisch da waren’s nur noch 3.

    3 kleine Kommie-Schweine ärgern die Polizei, der Warnschuß traf den dritten Mann da waren’s nur noch 2.

    2 kleine Kommie-Schweine auf Redskins gemacht, einer wurd versehendlich von Türken umgebracht. Hehehe

    1 kleines Kommie-Schwein was soll das noch geben, das kaufte sich ‘nen langen Strick und nahm sich das Leben

    10 kleine Kommie-Schweine blieben auf der Strecke, sing mit mir das schöne Lied: Rotfront verrecke!

  62. Carolyn on August 11th, 2010 10:01 pm

    to Greg Eric Paulson:

    No, it’s not pointless to express a dissenting opinion. And for all the words you have written, you have said nothing, except:

    Those who work should have nothing to say; those who do nothing (like the old aristocracy) should rule.

    This is the “Imperium Europa” with its elite army to enforce its will. You will never sell it because YOU, and others like you, are not even likeable … and whether you want to have to consider that or not, it’s important.

  63. Akira on August 11th, 2010 11:43 pm

    Dear Carolyn,

    I think you’re supposed to ask permission before you can express an opinion, and more than likely you will be denied.

    The “Imperium” (even if it’s less real than Narnia) is a manly enterprise! Full of manly men going about their manly business in a manly way!

    It will be (or is, in some fevered imaginations) run by 12 men, 12 great men, 12 noble men, 12 Elders of White Zion, meeting in secret around King Arthur’s round table, sharing their Grail, reciting the mystic quatrains of the Jew Nostradamus.

    A mere female such as yourself has no say in the running of the Imperium!

    You must learn to accept your inferior status in this extremely practical enterprise.

    Don’t you see the sign outside the Imperium’s tree-house council chamber:

    “YUCKY GIЯLS NOT ALLOWEDED!”

  64. Chris ( Malta) on August 12th, 2010 6:14 am

    This great plan is upsetting the crooks that administrated investment banks and world media. They want to keep stealing and conning people. Read what kings or popes used to say about these type of people in our history. They are here, pushing race mixing for a purpose, just like a home loan. ;)
    Norman Lowell is right.

  65. Andor on August 12th, 2010 7:08 am

    @ Greg Eric Paulson,

    So you assume i am uneducated and have limited horizons because i may not have read the same books as yourself.

    I stand by my comments to you earlier.Nations,regions,tribes etc within Europe existed long before the 19th-20th centuries.So has nationalism/tribalism.The petty differences and belligerent attitudes developed Europe over the centuries.In times when Europe was under threat and occupation from East Asian or Middle Eastern tribes many European armies and peoples united in defence of the whole.

    So the attitudes you despise have possibly ensured your existence.Kicking out nationalists on their arses and relocating them in Africa or having their heads severed seems to contradict your high culture,well read elitist persona.

    I know how much you love Norman Lowell’s Imperivm Evropa,don’t hold your breath.I am sure my fellow Australians in Tasmania are totally oblivious to the possible threat of their island becoming an inescapable prison for those who oppose the Imperivm.

    Looks like @Carolyn does not agree with you either professor.

  66. Norman Lowell on August 12th, 2010 7:33 am

    @ Andor
    “I am sure my fellow Australians in Tasmania are totally oblivious to the possible threat of their island becoming an inescapable prison for those who oppose the Imperivm.”

    Australians seem totally oblivious to their great country rapidly becoming an Asian one – and we all know who started it all.
    That lackey Bob Hawke, openly stating on TV that the sight of Palestinians stoning Israeli soldiers drove him to tears.
    Much better to sacrifice Tasmania and retain Australia: A continent reserved for Whites.

    The idea of dumping the Jews in Tasmania is not new.
    Many Jews themselves had agreed to it.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DI_v33BHh_Y

    King’s Island and Flinder’s Island on either side of Tasmania –
    would be ideal naval bases enforcing the quarantine.
    Tasmania or Madagascar: much can be said on both sides – an antinomia.

  67. Andor on August 12th, 2010 9:26 am

    @Norman Lowell,

    Many of us are not oblivious to the influx of Asian migrants.The fact is though the traitors are by far the majority.Don’t forget our government regardless of the party in power have similar multiracial policies as Britain,western Europe,Canada and USA.As long as it favours the fake economy the big boys in business and the government couldn’t care less what colour people are.

    The number of non-Whites here is much less than western Europe or USA.Not sure of the latest figures but somewhere around 92-94% White.Though in large urban areas like Sydney and Melbourne it is less.In heavy Asian and Middle Eastern ghetto areas Whites are only 40-70%.Outside of the big cities it is more White than much of western Europe.I live in the Gippsland region of Victoria which is like the whole country was before 1980.It is very true that Indians,Chinese and Arabs like to live in large cities where they form ghettos as in England,France,Netherlands etc.

    You are correct regarding Bob Hawke.The socialist leader we had up until recently before he got a knife in the back is a huge fan of China,speaks the language.Would sell the whole country to China.

    A sad fact is that the majority of White Australians are just too distracted by money,materialism,TV,sports,movies,alcohol, etc to care.

    I watched the video link regarding Tasmania.Too bad for the Palestinians.The Israel plan was well under way before this.No way the Jews would live in such a region.It’s just as far fetched as getting them to move to Birobidzhan.Some of them live there of course,i mean a complete relocation of Israelis will not happen.London,Paris,Amsterdam,Berlin,Budapest,New York,LA, etc is much more their style.

  68. Carolyn on August 12th, 2010 11:40 am

    @Akira,

    “YUCKY GIЯLS NOT ALLOWEDED!”

    I hear that.

  69. Greg Eric Paulson on August 12th, 2010 1:58 pm

    I said before that I don’t care to argue anymore. Most of you don’t understand the terms I (or Nowell for that matter) are using such as Aristocracy and petty-nationalism. Either that (which I know is at least some degree true) or you are of an ideology that is completely irreconcilable with mine.

    I am an Elitist pure and simple. It has always been the Elite, the minority of the best thinkers and actors (as in action, not theatre or movies) who have been the culture-bearers (see Yockey’s Imperium) of the world and the West. WN’s obsession with money, the merchant class and the plebs is just another modern degeneracy that serves the enemies of the West. Nothing of any importance has come from someone who physically, mentally and spiritually belongs to the Fourth Estate. They are the material from which the Elite & culture-bearers build great civilizations. Does this mean we treat them like dirt? Not at all, that is not the Aryan way. They should be treated fairly, but realistically. Let them fulfill their purpose and place in society with pride and happiness just as they and the merchants once did. Besides, Elites spring from all castes of society, it’s merit based not heritage based (within the confines of Whites that is).

    Those who want to praise the working class as the great producers bla bla bla, okay whatever, go on with your materialist, communist-liberal-capitalist point of view. I simply don’t care.

    I’m not interested in arguing anymore with, or trying to explain my beliefs to people whom hold irreconcilable beliefs with me. It’s pointless. We should simply go our own way. Regardless of if you do this however. I am done here responding to such comments.

  70. Pall on August 12th, 2010 2:28 pm

    I live in a race mixed neighbourhood and it’s great. You racists are sick. Making distinction among individuals based on such trifle criteria such as skin colour is just dumb. “Race” is irrelevant, it is more of a social construct than anything else. Humans are humans, there are no substantial differences in “biology”. The only real differences are in language, cultural habits and religion. But if there is a good will, these differences can be overcome, mutual respect can be achieved, with everyone still respecting his own tradition.

    Spengler said racialism was a sign of decandence, he was damn right, lol.

  71. Pall on August 12th, 2010 2:30 pm

    I just wanted to add that “race” is no meaningful criterion for anything. I use the very word only as a matter of convenience. There is no race, biologically there are only individuals. I-n-d-i-v-i-d-u-a-l-s, remember it, dumbasses.

  72. Mishko Novosel on August 12th, 2010 4:19 pm

    Pall go peddle you b.s. somewhere else, I don’t have to tolerate it, and I won’t.

  73. A German on August 12th, 2010 4:47 pm

    @Pall
    So, it’s a cultural construct that Kenyans, Obamaboo’s compatriots, win most marathons and Whites created the Apollo project???

    You’re so sick and deluded by your false ideology that it is even funny!
    XD

  74. Horus on August 12th, 2010 5:02 pm

    @Pall Saying that race is not real or doesn’t exist, is like saying there are no distinctions in dog breeds and ALL dogs can do the same chores. So go ahead, try and teach a Poodle to do what a German Shepherd or a Doberman Pincher does. You will NEVER achieve it. In humans race = breed in dogs, you silly red diaper baby.

    Race is based on REAL biological differences, while your silly communist egalitarian nonsense is based on faith and lunacy of Utopian proportions which lead to total dystopia. You’re a sick, deluded mongrel who hates White people and our achievements, so I recommend you STOP using your computer at once, as it was created by evil racist White people as well as a racialist and geneticist William Shockley.

  75. Pall on August 12th, 2010 6:33 pm

    Actually, I am “white” by traditional racial categories, that is, Europid, or of European origin. But I don’t feel belonging to any race, the very tag annoys me. By the way, my neighnours are a mixed family: black husband and white wife. They have gorgeous children. It’s so wonderful.

  76. Pall on August 12th, 2010 6:43 pm

    @Horus

    Which are those chores that can be performed by humans of certain skin complexion and cannot by those of different skin complexion, comparably to differences among dogs? Just don’t mention the nonsense about Africans winning marathons. It’s cultural.

  77. A German on August 12th, 2010 6:43 pm

    @Pall
    It doesn’t matter if you’re white!
    Youre still a hater of the white race!
    A Marxist traitor!

    Anti-racism is a codeword.
    A codeword for
    anti-white
    anti-European
    anti-American
    anti-Christian

    Africa for Africans, Asia for Asians, Muslim countries for Muslims, Aztlan for Chupacabras, white countries for EVERYONE!

  78. A German on August 12th, 2010 6:45 pm

    @Pall
    “Aficans winning marathons is cultural”
    LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
    XD
    How can someone deny reality so hardly???
    XD

  79. A German on August 12th, 2010 6:50 pm

    @Pall
    watch this and then talk again.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EU4cvmk44MQ
    Perhaps you stop denying the reality.

  80. A German on August 12th, 2010 10:03 pm
  81. kelvinator on August 13th, 2010 1:42 am

    Very sophisticated discourse by Pall.

  82. Aaron on August 13th, 2010 2:33 am

    Finally, in Lowell we have the natural successor to the vision of Francis Yockey.

    “The mission of this generation is the most difficult that has ever faced a Western generation. It must break the terror by which it is held in silence, it must look ahead, it must believe when there is apparently no hope, it must obey even if it means death, it must fight to the end rather than submit. Fortifying it is the knowledge that against the Spirit of Heroism no materialistic force can prevail. . . . Ultimately nothing can defeat them except inner decadence.” –Francis Parker Yockey

    Words which are even more relevant today.

  83. josh in kentucky on August 13th, 2010 8:50 am

    I have been following MR. Lowell for years. He is a true visionary and renissance man. I wish I could afford his book right now but $28 is a lot when you have the iron heel on your neck all the time and a jew leech sucking all the money out of your pocket.

    Please have him on again, and again, and again!

    For those interested you can still find a great number of his speeches (in english) on youtube if you do a little digging.

    Did Mr. Lowell sya who in The USSSA would be on the council of 12?

  84. Pall on August 13th, 2010 6:40 pm

    That video is mere propaganda.

    Every western European country should have at least 15% extra-European immigrants. Race mixing should be officially encouraged, with incentives to the couples, so that this race myth disappears as soon as possible.

  85. A German on August 13th, 2010 7:53 pm
  86. Chris ( Malta) on August 13th, 2010 11:58 pm

    Pall, you don’t belong here or within our society. In fact, you are not wanted or welcome. It is that simple. We don’t want to mix with your type and you cannot do anything about it because it takes two to tango.
    These are our lands and we intend to keep them under our control. Only people of European origin have this right to these lands and we have a military to defend it. The people that work hard to break our system from the inside, like you, have been spotted.
    Support Norman Lowell. Our man, our leader.

  87. josh in kentucky on August 14th, 2010 8:24 am

    this gut “Paul” is just trying to get a rise out of you. just ignore him.

    I was wondering how Mr. Lowell’s tactics will help America? Is there something planned for us? Can we move to Europe once this happens?

    Thanks – jIk

  88. Pall on August 14th, 2010 12:49 pm

    Racialism in any form, even the mildest one, is mental disease, I am more convinced than ever,

  89. Akira on August 14th, 2010 1:56 pm

    Pall,

    So you must be convinced, then, that Jews are the most mentally diseased people ever, right, since they’re the most “racialist” and they’re not even a race!

  90. Chris ( Malta) on August 14th, 2010 3:24 pm

    Pall,

    Please answer the question of Akira.

  91. Pall on August 14th, 2010 5:09 pm

    Jewish exclusivism is religious-cultural, not based on biological “race”,

  92. Akira on August 14th, 2010 7:14 pm

    Pall,

    Your ignorance of the Talmud means that you don’t understand the Jew belief that their “divine soul” alone is “man”, and that the non-Jew, the “goyim” soul is inferior, with Satanic and Feminine and Beastly elements.

    Sounds racist to me, even though of course the Jews Marilyn Monroe, Abe Foxman, Benjamin Satanyahoo, and the rapper Drake are obviously not of the same genetic makeup.

  93. Chris - on August 15th, 2010 1:29 am

    The 911 mosque has changed the whole political situation and with the jewish major Bloomberg backing it, says it all. Obama (not the terrorist) is a muslim, name and all, is now president of the USA. No more hiding, no more playing with words.
    The people have opened their eyes, you can hear it, see it and feel it.
    With the book to guide us as an ideology, the time has come to reverse the tide. Forward men …..

    The banks, media and congress must be taken back by OUR people, from now. The federal reserve has to belong to the government, just like the good old days of president Jackson. Take control of the money. Take control of everything. Don’t give an inch away but push them back.
    People of european origin unite.

    ( Milestone post)

  94. Chris ( Malta) on August 15th, 2010 5:59 am

    Pall,

    Akira is a jew and he knows exactly what he is talking about.

  95. Hector on August 16th, 2010 4:07 am

    ■Pall on August 13th, 2010 6:40 pm:

    >Every western European country should have at least
    >15% extra-European immigrants.

    Why so? Aren’t all people equal?
    How about 15% Europeans in Uganda?
    Or in Zimbabwe?

    >Race mixing should be officially encouraged, with incentives
    >to the couples, so that this race myth disappears as soon as
    >possible.

    Race mixing?
    Impossible, since race does not exist.
    Didn’t you say it yourself?

    Race mixing is already heavily encouraged. But only between whites and other races. No encouragement for mixing Chinese with negroes.

    Pall, what is your maladie? White guilt? Why do you hate yourself so much? What have you done? Really, what have you done to deserve so much self-hatred?

    Sober up and behave like a white man.

  96. Akira on August 16th, 2010 6:01 pm

    Re: “Akira is a jew”

    That’s news to me. Do I have get genitally-mutilated now?

  97. James on August 16th, 2010 10:38 pm

    Akira, I looked at your website, very interesting, your articles are longer and more in-depth than I’m used to.

    Now onto this person called paul, I notice that it is white people of poor genetic quality and attributes that decide to move over into the non white camp. The reason for this being that in an all white society, these people are of the lowest class, multiculturalism lifts themselves off the bottom and puts them back in the middle but they can only do this by lowering the overall genetic quality of a society. Pushing multiculturalism and integration is of benefit to themselves and is a natural selection impulse as it would improve reproductive success by having more females of the same or lesser genetic quality willing copulate with them.

  98. Pall on August 17th, 2010 7:03 pm

    It’s exactly white racialism that provides comfort to people of the lowest strata of “whites”, to the so-called white trash. This way they can feel somehow “superior”, on the only account of having the skin pigmentation white racialists declared as beloning to some “specially endowed” sort of humans. A source of pride for every drunkard and idiot belonging to the “white race”, with all of his personal shortcomings evaporating into the notion of “white greatness”. Racialism is in fact a very egalitarian doctrine, something most egalitarian imaginable. So it’s funny when they accuse others of “egalitarianism”. It’s racial Marxism, collectivism. For me, there are only individuals.

  99. Norman Lowell on September 7th, 2010 2:45 am

    http://www.timesofmalta.com/articles/view/20100906/local/norman-lowell-hits-out-as-constitutional-court-puts-off-decision

    Constitutional Court Case (racial hatred) shameless postponed by the President of the Courts.
    Case to be taken up by the new President of the Court.
    The former Attorney General: the very man who instituted proceedings against me in the first place!

  100. Norman Lowell on September 23rd, 2010 3:50 am

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQBH-KHZqfk

    Guido von List (the spiritual forefather of Nazism) -
    invited by the Sultan of Turkey –
    whose wife came to Malta to perform Fertility Rites at Mnajdra.

    This is the Sultan’s wife: Gwaschemasche.
    Very beautiful woman: Circassian
    Protector of Mnajdra.
    http://www.flickr.com/photos/junkojunsui/

    This is her mother:
    http://www.flickr.com/photos/junkojunsui/3824632456/

    Malta: Remnant of Atlantis
    Malta: The Pinnacle Peak
    Malta: The Spiritual Focal Point of the coming, inevitable, unstoppable Imperium Europa

  101. Akira on September 24th, 2010 8:07 pm

    That’s absolutely fascinating, Mr Lowell,

    Now, since, Gevherin (or, “Gwaschemasche.” as you say), was the Mother Goddess who performed the Sacred Rites at Mnajdra, when I conduct my ceremony at Mnajdra on the next full moon, which of her surviving descendents should I have officiate? And must they be virgins?( We must do things correctly if we want the Aryan Imperium Novum of Atlantis to thrive under its Round-Tabled 12 White Elders of Zion!)

    – His Imperial Highness, and Caliph of Islam, Prince Şehzade Vasiliy Malik Mustafaev Efendi

    or his children?

    – Her Imperial Highness Nadezhda Shabanova Hanım Efendi

    – His Imperial Highness Prince Şehzade Konstantin V Mustafaev Efendi (Canadian Model)

    – Her Imperial Highness Princess Ludmila Sultan V Mustafaeva (Russian Military Diplomat)

    – His Imperial Highness Prince Şehzade Malik Mustafaev Efendi (Russian Military Cadet)

    – Her Imperial Highness Princess Fakia Sultan Mustafaeva (Russian)

    I think we should go with HIH Prince Konstantin V Mustafaev of the Royal House of Osman, who I’m sure is a virgin, heterosexually-speaking anyway:

    http://brianakira.files.wordpress.com/2010/09/hih-prince-konstantin-v-mustafaev-of-the-royal-house-of-osman-topkapi-palace.jpg

    Its good to see Voice of Reason taking such important matters so seriously!

  102. Akira on September 24th, 2010 11:29 pm

    And here’s a photo of Lowell’s “goddess”, entitled “Mnajdra Origin: Gwaschemasch’e Efendi at the Temple Mnajdra, Qrendi, Malta (1905)”

    Oh what’s that up in the corner?

    “This photo was taken on August 16, 2009.”

    What?

    Copyright Junko Junsui, a “Conceptual Artist”?

    Oh woe! Oh woe! There existeth no hope for the Masonic European Imperial pagans! Even their gods and their goddesses have by Japanese artists created been.

    Another victory for the Yellowman!

  103. Akira on September 24th, 2010 11:30 pm

    Forgot “The Link to The Goddess”

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/junkojunsui/3824632612/

  104. Greg Eric Paulson on September 25th, 2010 2:28 am

    Thank you for posting that interesting portion of a documentary Mr. Lowell. I wonder what the name of that film is..

    Guido von List was indeed one of the spiritual forefathers of Nazism (The NSDAP was the exoteric arm which came AFTER the Esoteric core was established). One who is only interested in the exoteric will never really understand the Third Reich and the National Socialist leadership.

    Akira (is that some kind of japanese name? referencing a cartoon?) is being ignorant, showing a lack of class, and wasting his time insulting people who are better than him as usual. I’m glad you aren’t responding to such things. Shows you have your wits about you.

    About 100 pages left to go on Imperium Europa by the way. I have been reading way too many books at once in addition to having more than a full plate of work from the university.

    I plan on sending you an email when I am done reading it addressing specific issues. The editor, Hoffmeister, has been rather hostile to me on facebook, due to our disagreement on the Jewish Problem. I am wondering if his views changed since he wrote the preface, and if you are both still on good terms….considering he is a Judeophile.

    -Greg

  105. Norman Lowell on September 25th, 2010 9:41 am

    Akira – you are a Jew.
    The stench you leave behind every one of your posts – is umistakeble.
    You cannot be but yourself – a Jew.

  106. Akira on September 25th, 2010 1:07 pm

    I don’t understand.

    I’m trying my best to support your Masonic Aryan Gwaschemasch’ean cult.

    Here’s your idol’s Facebook page:

    http://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Junsui/108510947011

    From her profile summary:

    “THEY CALLED YOU JUNSUI, THE PURE BREED. BUT THEY MEANT THAT YOU WERE THE PERFECT PRODUCT. NOTHING WAS PURE ABOUT YOU UNTIL YOU DECIDED TO MAKE YOURSELF PURE.

    “YOU ARE THE LIGHT OF PURE DESTRUCTION.

    “YOU ARE READY TO SACRIFICE YOURSELF FOR HER AND YOUR SISTERS.

    “THIS IS NOT THE END.”

    BTW, Junsui means “Pure-born”, so perhaps Junko Junsui could be one of your 12 Hidden Masters That Shall Rule The World.

    Oh, I forgot, no Japs or chicks, right?

  107. Carolyn on September 25th, 2010 7:10 pm

    To Greg Eric Paulson,

    Guido von List was not a forefather of Nazism except in the loosest terms in the thinking of people like yourself.

    The NSDAP was not the exoteric arm of the “Esoteric core” which predated it, according to you. Just who established this “Esoteric core,” would you please relate? That there existed a natural interest, and even movements, in pre-Christian German culture, religion and history does not lead directly to Adolf Hitler’s NSDAP and his very unique transformation of German society. What these movements spoke of was something very “German” … something in the German mind and nature, that cannot be taken over and said to find it’s pinnacle expression in the writings of the Italian Catholic Julius Evola, for example, or any other peripheral being.

    Adolf Hitler’s achievement came from a complex of ideas that were uniquely evolved in his own person. People like you want to define National Socialism in your own image, for your own purposes, but drop out it’s very soul so you can make it more “universalist” and “esoteric.”

    Himmler’s interest in such, along with his vision for the SS as a German ruling elite pulled from the best of the mass of the population rather than limited to the old aristocracy was part and parcel of the revolutionary “populist” nature of the NSDAP (meritocracy), not proof of your particular brand of snobbery.

    If I misunderstand your meaning and intentions, I do apologize.

  108. A German on September 25th, 2010 7:16 pm

    Despite Akira being a Jew Anti, or not,
    in one point he’s right:

    All this esotheric nonsense brings us not one step further!

    Also the ridiculous idea to part all European nations inzo tiny departements and only Malta stays intact and becomes even the capital, is simply ridiculous!
    And then this 1984/Equilibrium/aristocratic fascist Soviet system of rule, simply ridiculous.

    Under normal circumstances Malta would be already an Italian island again!

    I understand Mr. Lowell, every senior needs a hobby, so may it be, but that has nothing to do with real politics and what the future holds for Europe.

  109. Akira on September 25th, 2010 8:03 pm

    Carolyn,

    Agreed.

    Hitler was surrounded by all sorts of wackjobs, with all sorts of bizarre beliefs, but his concerns were practical: finances, combating corruption (fiscal, political and moral), anti-Communocapitalism, national unity, national sovereignty, etc.

    That’s what I was getting at before, when I said that the Axis powers could have succeeded in holding back the USUKUSSR collective, if they’d stuck to these practical concerns.

    + + +

    Re: every senior needs a hobby

    True. But nothing dangerous!

    http://www.hobbyjapan.co.jp/armsmagazine/

  110. Norman Lowell on September 26th, 2010 5:13 am

    “The editor, Hoffmeister, has been rather hostile to me on facebook, due to our disagreement on the Jewish Problem. I am wondering if his views changed since he wrote the preface, and if you are both still on good terms….considering he is a Judeophile.” @ Greg

    Hoffmeister wrote a Preface to my book – David Stennet is the Editor.
    Hoffmeister has upset so many of our people, myself included.
    He is a complex man, a literary Artist and delights in provoking.

    But he means well, I assure you – and of course we are still good friends.
    He will be visiting Malta again soon, along with his parents and latest Russian acquisition!
    Hoffmeister is the quintessential pan-Europeanist.

    “Despite Akira being a Jew Anti, or not,
    in one point he’s right:
    All this esotheric nonsense brings us not one step further!”
    @ A German

    That’s exactly where the Jew wants you to be – at the gross level.
    It is at the Spiritual level that our final battle has to be fought and won.
    The Spiritual level is the most important arena: where the stakes are highest, the danger most grave.

    2,000 years of an anti-Nature, anti-survival, this anti-Noble disease of the mind, have brought us to our present predicament.
    We have to rediscover our Spiritual roots : Cosmotheism.

    All else follows from this – percolates downwards and affects everything, including High Culture and practical politics.
    The future of Europe depends on our Spirituality, or lack of it.
    Imperium Europa – it can be done!

  111. Greg Eric Paulson on September 26th, 2010 5:36 pm

    @ Norman Lowell

    Hoffmeister told me, and I quote “By the way, I was also in charge of editing the whole thing.” Referring to Imperium Europa.

    Yes, I am aware of his inclination towards “provoking” people. He is a very oppositional individual. I enjoyed his preface to your book a lot, but was quick to find out he is a…complex individual.

    Someone I am good friends with who knows him says he has admitted to promoting things he doesn’t believe in and that he is basically an opportunist (within racial circles). A seeming example of this (for this could be attributed to something else) would be his anti-semitic comments in the preface. In fact, some great comments. I quote:

    ‎”No matter how much Christianity has been Paganized (or Europeanized), in it’s essence it remains a Semitic cult from the desert of the Middle East. Anti-Semitic European Christians are the epitome of hypocrisy as they worship a dead Jew on a piece of wood (which, to make it even clearer, had “I.N.R.I” ["Jesus of Nazareth, King of the Jews"] written on it)…”
    - Constantin von Hoffmeister, Preface of Imperium Europa, P 26-27

    He is undoubtedly your friend though and I am sure there are sides of him i do not know. He is just the only gentile I know who fanatically loves jews to the degree that he does.

  112. Greg Eric Paulson on September 26th, 2010 6:59 pm

    @ Carolyn

    “Guido von List was not a forefather of Nazism except in the loosest terms in the thinking of people like yourself.”

    And who are people such as myself?

    “The NSDAP was not the exoteric arm of the “Esoteric core” which predated it, according to you. Just who established this “Esoteric core,” would you please relate? That there existed a natural interest, and even movements, in pre-Christian German culture, religion and history does not lead directly to Adolf Hitler’s NSDAP and his very unique transformation of German society. What these movements spoke of was something very “German” … something in the German mind and nature, that cannot be taken over and said to find it’s pinnacle expression in the writings of the Italian Catholic Julius Evola, for example, or any other peripheral being.”

    Wow, where to start. Firstly, I will not be rude to you or show you contempt, for I used to share your beliefs and I respect you as a person (unlike some others commenting here). I was only interested in the purely rationalist doctrines of the Third Reich, dismissing any esoteric mentions as efforts at demonizing completely rational and justifiable government and policies. Furthermore, I will state right now that the VAST majority of literature on the “Nazi occult” is as my good friend put it, “sensationalized garbage.”

    When speaking to most people, I don’t mention anything esoteric because most people have a hard time grasping the exoteric facts of National Socialism, nor do they know how to defend these ideas objectively and rationally. To bring such “occult” topics up would only serve to confuse and/or dissuade people from seeing the legitimacy of the Third Reich.

    I am very confused at your remarks about Julius Evola. What does he have to do with anything we are talking about? The only connection Julius Evola has with anything we are talking about is that wrote on esoteric topics from a vaguely similar (but really very different) point of view. Other than that, which is not related directly with anything we are speaking of, there is no connection. Also, he was not a Catholic. At most he had *some* Catholic sympathies but rejected Catholic doctrine and was one of the only people (if not the first person) to precisely predict that the Catholic Church would become a very liberal institution (way before Vatican II).

    I don’t know what your “universalist” reference was about either.

    Back to the topic at hand.

    “Just who established this “Esoteric core,” would you please relate?”

    Yes, I would be happy to relate what I can here.

    The Thule Society ran the DAP before Hitler found it. Even before this evidence points towards his interest in the occult. Anyways, he was taken under the wing by Dietrich Eckhart (member of the Thule society), where he learned a LOT. It is a well established fact that Eckhart had a tremendous influence on Hitler. He dedicated his second volume of Mien Kampf to him.
    Let’s not forget that both Himmler and Hess were also both VERY involved in the esoteric. Karl Maria Wiligut also played an important and had well established influence on the Third Reich.

    The fact of the matter is, whatever you want to say about Hitler himself, without those heavily involved and motivated by esoteric spirituality, there never would have a NSDAP nor would Hitler have rose to power. The facts are, he was heavily influenced and surrounded by these people. He certainly didn’t have a problem with the SS which had an esoteric core (leadership) and also served the purpose of finding and grooming the best minds, bodies and character to be initiated into the inner circles. Not to mention the SS, and the NSDAP were stock full of esoteric/occult symbols hinting as much.

    Then I could go on and on about how the Third Reich spent lots of money and resources researching things based on esoteric, occult, and spiritual theories.

    Some things I suggest you should look into:
    Ahnenerbe
    Tibetan expedition
    Otto Rhan
    Studies into/work in alternative sources of energies and science
    Here is a a good documentary on the above: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DdxqNQV53Sk

    Guido Von List among many others had philosophical influences on the leadership and spiritual beliefs of the NSDAP.

    Anyways, I could go on and on, but I need to go, I have a lot of work to do. Besides, believe it or not, I am not very concerned with “converting” people to what I believe.

    I just thought that you were one of the few who deserved some more in depth discussion on the topic.

    Greg

  113. Carolyn on September 28th, 2010 8:40 pm

    Dear Greg,

    People such as yourself are people who say or agree with the things you are saying in this comment section.

    I brought up Julius Evola because he is a favorite for many here as the teacher of how to live in the’ esoteric’ level — Norman Lowell thinks so too. Evola was a Catholic and would have been quite happy with traditional patriarchal Catholicism of Roman times, which is a universalist, Imperialist belief system.

    I’m familiar with all the men you mention and the things you suggest I look into, and I can tell you that what you say and think about them doesn’t add up to Adolf Hitler being ‘heavily influenced’ and dependent on their ‘esoteric spirituality’ for his rise to power.

    You said: the purpose [of the SS is] finding and grooming the best minds, bodies and character to be initiated into the inner circles.

    No, the SS was formed as a private bodyguard/army for Adolf Hitler. It evolved from there into an elite force, and yes, was meant to represent the best of the German nation … not men to participate in a secret society! Furthermore, one can find esoteric/occult meanings in all symbols. Adolf Hitler had little interest in the study of the occult, and said so.

    You said: Then I could go on and on about how the Third Reich spent lots of money and resources researching things based on esoteric, occult, and spiritual theories.

    No it didn’t. Hitler went along with Himmler’s esoteric interests, as long as they didn’t interfere with the war and other policies. Lots of others had these interests also, but they didn’t dominate. The time and money spent was minimal compared to other areas. It’s not as if Hitler was completely closed off to it, but he was definitely not one of it’s most enthusiastic supporters. lol

    You can go “on and on” but it doesn’t get you any closer to the real personality that Adolf Hitler was. Your interest is in turning AH into another symbol, and the Third Reich into a new world order with a Masonic or otherwise “esoteric” base. YOu can come up with all the “evidence” you want, but you are still not proving a thing because the real-life evidence goes the other way.

    Guido von List was a follower of Madame Blavatsky. Norman Lowell, in his Imperium, refers to Hitler as “The Hero” — unwilling to speak his name. [At least in the chapter on Masonry he sent to me.] Forgive me if I’ve been through this already and, just as Hitler did, somewhere along the way I lost interest.

    Adolf Hitler’s religious and political beliefs were founded and grounded in the laws of Nature — in that, he was quintessentially German. But he was also an extraordinary human being with immense strength of will who was greater than anyone else around him, no matter how excellent some of these people were.

  114. Carolyn on September 29th, 2010 12:59 pm

    @Greg Eric Paulson,

    I just looked at the youtube “documentary” you recommended. I have to tell you this is somewhat on a par with the Marvel comic book I talked about in my last program: “Sgt. Fury and the Holocaust that was Dresden!” It’s meant for the same gullible, eager-to-be entertained-by-non-demanding-thought mentality. It leads away from any true understanding of the Third Reich and it’s *goodness,* into a sci-fi world of “initiates” and speculation about space beings and weapons of which , however, no hard evidence has ever been found. All nations were working on advanced weaponry, and still are. It wasn’t a Nazi specialty.

    Like so much garbage out there about AH and the 3rdR, there is nothing at all to this silly “documentary” video. It makes clear to me what I already suspected: You are juvenile. And I’m afraid Norman Lowell’s chapter (11?) on Masonry and, he said, Rudolf Hess, which I have read, is also juvenile. I don’t want to speak against Mr. Lowell and his efforts, especially on his own program page, but I was truly amazed at the level of this book after reading that one chapter. And you tell me you don’t want to ” show [me] contempt, for I used to share your beliefs …” Really, too much. I actually used to share many of your beliefs and I’m well versed in metaphysics, but that is not going to change our situation for the better.

    We need to offer practical alternatives for our people, and we need to not shy away from from defending the 3rd Reich and what it did, because of PC. That is cowardly. These things have to be faced head on and faced courageously, with truth. The truth is there. But the truth surrounding the 3rd Reich offends the myths of many white groups, not just the Jews. So there is the problem. And you are not solving it, but avoiding it like most of the rest by trying to create your own myths.

  115. Greg Eric Paulson on September 29th, 2010 3:37 pm

    Carolyn,

    Firstly, I should inform you that merely repeating the opposite of what someone said in an authoritative sentence does not convince any intelligent person to your opinion.

    Secondly, I retract me previous comments. I have obviously misjudged you. I took you for someone who had class. Obviously I was wrong.

    Insulting me, and especially a guest on a fellow host’s show exposes either your ignorance on how to conduct proper intellectual discourse (this being a lack of class), or your lack of emotional and self control.

    Calling someone else names in a discussion is juvenile. Insulting a guest on another host’s show is juvenile, Carolyn. There is nothing “juvenile” about my beliefs and opinions, the only thing “juvenile” in this discussion is your behavior.

    I expected you to disagree with me, even after discussing these issues, but I obviously was wrong in assuming you were a lady with class.

    In fact, I am surprised VoR allows a person with such a lack of social skills on their network.

    I am no longer interested in discussing anything with you.

  116. Carolyn on September 29th, 2010 6:43 pm

    Greg Eric Paulson uses the word “class” three times in his comment, as in accusing me of having none. That’s his answer to my opposition to his interpretation of the Third Reich. I answered every question he put to me, and explained why I disagreed with him. He calls it “repeating the opposite of what he says”. No, I’m not repeating, I am saying that he is wrong and provides no evidence to back up his naively presented beliefs. As I said, “no hard evidence has ever been found.” It’s up to GEP to draw the line of cause and effect, as it is also up to Norman Lowell to anchor his thesis in historical fact instead of just story-telling.

    So this is what the problem comes down to: People who want to get others to *believe* what they say by appealing to other than their intelligence. If you question the intelligence of it, they are insulted and take refuge in claiming you have insulted them; therefore they won’t speak to you anymore. Where have we heard that before.

    The comments section is for comments on the program and the guest — the content thereof. After that, to comment on the content of what other commenters post. This is a terribly serious matter, so to just let things go by and to allow our own people to believe things that are not true or reality-based is not acceptable. I oppose what you are doing because you say things you don’t know, and you pretend you do know by saying it is “esoteric” and if people disagree with you it’s because they don’t or can’t understand it. What a racket that is.

    This, and other things recently, have focused my mind and attention, so I thank you for that. I’m going to be speaking more about this on my own radio program. It’s not surprising that you would end by saying that I shouldn’t be allowed on the VOR network. Ha, but of course it is not your decision and you have zero influence. You would be among the first to take away freedom of speech when it’s not to your liking.

  117. Norman Lowell on September 30th, 2010 5:04 am

    @ Carolyn
    “And I’m afraid Norman Lowell’s chapter (11?) on Masonry and, he said, Rudolf Hess, which I have read, is also juvenile….”
    And
    “it is also up to Norman Lowell to anchor his thesis in historical fact instead of just story-telling…”

    The Jew on this site must be sniggering. Here we are, all on the same side, tearing each other apart. It has been so since 870BC – since the roaming White tribes became city states, instead of an Imperium.

    Ms Carolyn Yeager is a historian: dusting old records, checking Luftwaffe bombing log books and so on. “Turning dough into dust” as Nietzsche puts it. Of course, such revisionism is necessary and important, up to a certain point.

    However, I am a politician and I don’t look to the past, except to draw lessons in High Politics. I refuse to dwell on “how great we were” and instead dream, yes dream and work politically that We become great again.

    In a short book of a mere 444 pages, I could not be bothered with detailed facts. The IDEA of Imperium Europa is too great for a book of less than 2,000 pages, if we have to please the historians.

    Fortunately, Caivs Marcus has taken up this task with his imminent launching of his book: The Imperian Manifesto. I will present the book for the first time at the forthcoming New Right conference in London.

    This book will tackle the nitty gritty, the nuts and bolts of The IDEA. It is well indexed and referenced and will satisfy all, but the most obdurate of any doubting Thomas.

    Let us work together, each in his respective field towards our common goal. That of extirpating the enemy within and forging ahead towards saving our Race, High Culture and Civilisation. – “All else is folly”.

  118. A German on September 30th, 2010 11:39 am

    I hope that soon Italy annexes Malta.
    And we get spared from this stupid IMPERIVM MALTA….erm…. EVROPA… of course, idea ;-)

    Esotheric nonsense.

    And it doesn’t help anyone to smear every critic as Jew.
    That is imbecilic!

  119. Mike Conner on September 30th, 2010 1:46 pm

    Any further flaming on this comment section will be promptly deleted. Lowell gets the final word here. Let’s move along. Thanks.

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