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The Stark Truth: Oliver Stone put “in context”

July 28, 2010

Oliver Stone

As Oliver Stone says that his new docudrama puts Hitler “in context”, VoR puts Oliver Stone in context! Robert Stark & guest co-host Mike Conner discuss:

  • Oliver Stone apologizes twice to the ADL for speaking the truth about Jewish influence & power
  • The hubbub surrounding Stone’s upcoming docudrama, “The Secret History of America” — a tempest in a Jewish teapot
  • Obama Netanyahu promises to build a fence to defend America Israel against illegal immigration
  • Jews flee Muslim immigrants’ violence in Malmo, Sweden
  • Geert Wilders’s fight against Islam on behalf of feminism, homosexuality, and Jews — who will fight for Europeans?

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15 Responses to “The Stark Truth: Oliver Stone put “in context””

  1. A German on August 1st, 2010 12:51 pm

    Hi Stark and Conner!
    I see you really understand the Hitler phenomenom.

    All these stories about “Hitler was brought in by Illuminati and British and American industrials” and so on is pure bullshit!
    Only knuckleheads like Alex Jones and brainless Jonesians can believe that!

    Of course people like Presscott Bush made buisness with Germany! Not with Hitler and not with “the Nazis”.
    Just with Germany, where at that time the Nationalsocialist had the power.
    That’s a totally normal thing, buisnessmen, industrials make buisness in other states, it does not play any role who rules the state.

    And it’s really ridiculous how some of these idiots think the foreign industrials or banks brought Hitler into power!
    XD

    Hitler was mainly supported by patriotic German industrials, like Krupp and Thyssen!
    And at the end even this support didn’t bring Hitler into power.
    It was only the big support of the German people and their votes!
    They saw Hitler as saviour! “Heiland”

    And Hitler himself, as a private person was totally independant, because he became a wealthy millionaire just by his book sellings of Mein Kampf!

    And still he, as a private person, stayed humble.
    For example at his daily lunch he prefered to eat a simple pea soup! He had no sense for luxury, like the Renaissance-man Göring. He totally ignored his private needs, he was just concentrated on his mission: to save the German people.

    And his main goal was not war, but a giant social program, as he said in the secretly recorded chat with Marshal Mannerheim in Finland!

    He also told him, that he was totally flabbergasted by the masses of troops Stalin had concentrated at the new German-Soviet border.
    Millions of soldiers, 19,000 planes, 25,000 tanks.
    That was clearly a preperation for an invasion!

    So, hadn’t Hitler attacked in june 1941, Stalin would have stood 2 months later in Stettin, Breslau, Berlin!

    In Poland Hitler did what the NATO did 1995 in Bosnia.
    Supporting a supressed minority.
    Since the new Poland was established in 1919, most of its inhabitants were other nationals!
    For example 2 million Germans, because Poland got German populated land.
    And so so the supremacist Poles tried to Polonize and Catholisize the minorities, and if that didn’t function, they tried to drive them out by brutal terror.
    Ask the Ukrainians they too had to suffer in this way.

    On the Bloody Sunday of Bromberg the Poles brutaly massacred thousand of Germans. Young blond girls were raped, mutilated and nailed naked to Protestant church doors.

    That was the point where Hitler said I cannot watch this anymore and attacked.

    Despite he had made several peace treaty offerings to the Poles and even an offering for an alliance against Bolshevism before 1939.
    He wanted to abondon almost all German inhabited territories, he only wanted the 95% German Danzig and a road to Eastern Prussia.
    Imagine that!
    Even the Democratic polticians of the Weimar Republic never dared to abondon Upper Silesia! One said: “The man who agrees to this abdonation of German lands, his hand shall wither!

    And here Hitler made offering after affering just to keep up the peace. But the supremacist Poles didn’t aggree in their arrogant manner. They wanted from day 1 the Oder-Neisse border, and some even the river Elbe as new western border!
    They thought they would get away with everything, because they thought they were backed up by the British Empire.

    They even made several times the offer to Britain to attack Germany from 2 sides, before 1933!!!
    That means when Germany still was a democratic Republic!!!

  2. johnUK on August 2nd, 2010 9:59 am

    @A German

    LOL! what garbage Hitler preplanned since the early 30′s to attack the USSR along with Poland who killed about 20 million Soviet citizens completely destroyed the western regions as Stone pointed out.

    Stalin had neither the means or desire to launch war on Germany given that the Soviets where already fighting Japanese forces in the East, uncovered a Trotskyite plot to sabotage and overthrow the government prior to WW2 which is falsely labeled show trials and still crippled by years of civil war and non-engineered famines.

    NATO did not intervene for a repressed minority they covertly supported it and bombed the Bosnian Serbs as a result of a Muslim fall flag market bombing attack and Germany since the 1970′s was working to destabilize the Balkans.

  3. A German on August 2nd, 2010 11:55 am

    @JohnUK
    You’re a Stalin and Commie apologist anyway.
    So STFU I can’t take you different position serious.
    You’re biased.

    Of course Hitler wrote some pretty radical things in Mein Kampf, about “Lebensraum” in the east.
    But that was ideology and it was in the 1920s
    When he came to power and especially was well respected in the world in 1938 he changed his and wanted only to conserve the Reich.

    But the massacres by the Poles forced him for the Polish campaign. As Stalin’s plan to invade forced him to preemptively attack the USSR!
    Adn then, when all dams were broken, the point of no return reached in 1942 and he almost conquered whole Europe then his old utopic ideolig ideas became actual again.

    But hadn’t he been forced into the conflicts, he never would have dared to realize them. He was satisfied to have won Germany and wanted to begin agiant social program, so that he would be remembered like Bismarck for his establishment of retirement funds.

    And Stalin my dumb friend planned to invade Europe since the 1920s. His plan was that Germany and the Western powers would have bleed to death in a long war like in WW1 and that he then would have marched with his Red Army through Germany to the English channel and finish the “World revolution”

    Churchill on the other side had the same dream with Germany and the USSR and that he then would have marched through Germany to Moscow and ended Communism.

    But both villains didn’t calculate that Hitler wasn’t so dumb and wasn’t a sitting duck.

    And for the NATO.
    I don’t care for your “real” reasons for the operation!
    I just used the official reason as an analogy to the Polish campaign.

    And for the allusion that GERMANY since the 1970s tried to destabelize the Balkans you now recieve a big
    L O L
    from me!
    XD

    Until today Germany is a puppet regime!
    Germany plans nothing! And can plan nothing!
    Because till to today Germany is totally powerless!

    Germany has still 60,000 US troops in the country!
    5,000 British troops.
    4 Muzzie civil occupants!
    And a liberal and Jewish mishpoke who rules Germany’s politics!

  4. A German on August 2nd, 2010 11:59 am

    *4 million Muzzie civil occupants

  5. Carolyn on August 2nd, 2010 2:32 pm

    What Hitler wrote about Lebensraum in Mein Kampf is greatly exaggerated by people who have never read Mein Kampf. As The German said, being written in the 20′s, that was a centuries-long-range idea which was never intended to be carried out by Hitler himself. But Lenin’s/Stalin’s plan of European domination, beginning with Germany always, began early in the century, never changed, and was meant to be immediate. They had made several attempts at it.

    Read Viktor Suvorov’s “The Chief Culprit: Stalin’s Grand Design to Start World War II”, and his earlier “The Icebreaker” if you want to see all the evidence of his preparations for his massive/major attack scheduled for only weeks after Germany invaded on June 22, 1941. If Hitler had not ordered that attack, she would have faced disaster on an even greater scale than she eventually did.

    Suvorov, in spite of being a defector, is a Russian chauvinist who see Russian accomplishments as the greatest, and Stalin as the greatest brain among the leaders of that time. But still, what he writes cannot be dismissed.

  6. A German on August 2nd, 2010 5:04 pm

    @Carolyn
    Quote:
    “What Hitler wrote about Lebensraum in Mein Kampf is greatly exaggerated by people who have never read Mein Kampf. As The German said, being written in the 20’s, that was a centuries-long-range idea which was never intended to be carried out by Hitler himself. But Lenin’s/Stalin’s plan of European domination, beginning with Germany always, began early in the century, never changed, and was meant to be immediate. They had made several attempts at it.”

    Totally right Carolyn!!! You described it even better!
    The “Drang nach Osten” was a centuries old German agenda!
    Since medieval times.

    I presume that JohnUK, despite living in Britian???, is one of these crazy Russian National Bolshevist.
    Otherwise I can’t explain why ongoingly is defending Stalin, the Bolshevists and the USSR in his posts.

  7. johnUK on August 2nd, 2010 5:58 pm

    123
    Unlike you I am not an ideologue and base my opinions on facts and change them accordingly not spotting debunked propaganda.

    “And Stalin my dumb friend planned to invade Europe since the 1920s. His plan was that Germany and the Western powers would have bleed to death in a long war like in WW1 and that he then would have marched with his Red Army through Germany to the English channel and finish the “World revolution”

    Wrong Communist leader retard that was Trotsky and Lenin’s internationalism not Stalin’s national Communism.

    How could he have possibly planned to attack anything when the Soviet Union was recovering from civil war, famines, large outbreaks of diseases and transfer of Russian assets outside the country, with no military industrial infrastructure of any significance to speak off?

    In fact Germany and Poland planned to attack the USSR and annex Ukraine and in the late 1930’s Poland aligned with France planned to support separatism and annex western regions of the USSR in the Volga, Ukraine, Belarus and the Caucasus.

    “But the massacres by the Poles forced him for the Polish campaign. As Stalin’s plan to invade forced him to preemptively attack the USSR!
    Adn then, when all dams were broken, the point of no return reached in 1942 and he almost conquered whole Europe then his old utopic ideolig ideas became actual again.

    But hadn’t he been forced into the conflicts, he never would have dared to realize them. He was satisfied to have won Germany and wanted to begin agiant social program, so that he would be remembered like Bismarck for his establishment of retirement funds.”

    True that Germany was forced into conflict with Poland, in fact the whole Versailles Treaty was to push Germany East hoping to spark a conflict with the USSR. But the Idea that Stalin secretly planned to attack Germany is not based on any credible evidence and Viktor Suvorov’s book which I take it you are referencing has been widely debunked.

    The British objective was to eliminate both Germany and the USSR in a war of attrition which Britain could have ended the war in 43.

    It has been revealed from declassified intelligence paper the Italian fascist leader Mussolini was a British intelligence asset.

    “And for the allusion that GERMANY since the 1970s tried to destabelize the Balkans you now recieve a big
    L O L
    from me!
    XD”

    Allied with Croatia Germany supported destabilisation of Yugoslavia in the late 60’s/early 70’s according the declassified BND archive material.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ed2E3jzwmo8#t=04m02s

    “In the 1970s important elements of this policy were revived – for example in 1977 when the Bavarian Prime Minister, Franz-Josef Strauss founded the “Alps Adriatic Working Community”. This brought representatives of West Germany, Austria, Hungary, as well as from Italian federal provinces together on a regular basis with representatives of the Yugoslav Republics of Slovenia and Croatia. Their activities served to coordinate a common “realm” policy and promoted the particularism in Slovenia and Croatia, a means by which, according to the French daily, Le Monde, a wedge was to be driven in the [cohesion] of the Yugoslav state.[12] Currently some of the splinters of southeastern European states, which were disintegrated with active West German participation, are reconvening in the “Council of the Danube Cities and Regions” directed from Ulm.”

    http://www.german-foreign-policy.com/en/fulltext/56244

    And it was Germany allied with the US that was primarily involved in destroying Yugoslavia with Germany reaping the benefits.

    I would post links but I don’t want this comment caught up in moderation.

    And there activities in the Balkans was just a bridge to another conflict as revealed with 9/11 and Attas connections. I think you can guess what that is?

  8. johnUK on August 2nd, 2010 8:16 pm

    @Carolyn

    There was also his unpublished second book which goes into greater detail of this issue.

    Viktor Suvorov’s books have been totally debunked by historians that have studied and read both German and Soviet military archive material and not back by any real facts or evidence.

    “Suvorov’s view that a Soviet invasion of Germany was imminent in 1941 is not shared by the majority of historians.

    A noteworthy rebuttal of Suvorov’s thesis is contained in Colonel David Glantz’s work Stumbling Colossus: The Red Army on the Eve of World War. Glantz views Suvorov’s argument as “incredible” on a variety of fronts: first, Suvorov rejects without examination classified ex-Soviet archival material, and makes highly selective picks from memoirs. Glantz points to this as a serious methodological flaw. Further, Glantz argues, Suvorov’s thesis is strongly contradicted both by ex-Soviet and German archival material, and the facts do not support the argument that the Red Army was prepared to invade Germany.[1] On the contrary, the appalling lack of readiness, poor training level, and abysmal state of deployments show that the Red Army was unprepared for static defense, much less large-scale offensive operations. Glantz’s conclusion is that “Stalin may well have been an unscrupulous tyrant, but he was not a lunatic.”

    Commenting on the existing plans for Soviet preemptive strike Robin Edmonds argues that “the Red Army planning staff would not have been doing its job if it had not devoted some time between 1939 and 1941 to the possibility, at some future date, of a pre-emptive strike against Wehrmacht”[2]. David Brandenberger notes that recently published pre-1941 German analysis of Soviet military readiness also do not support the major Icebreaker’s thesis demonstrating that Soviet preparations were assessed to be “defensive” by German intelligence.”[3]

    Although Suvorov claims that an attack date of July 8, 1941 had been selected, this is contradicted by the evidence as presented by Glantz and others. There were no stockpiles of fuel, ammunition, and other stores held in forward areas as would have been needed if an invasion was about to be mounted. Major ground units were dispersed into small garrisons rather than being concentrated at railheads, as they would have been had they been preparing an invasion. Units were not co-located with their own transportation assets, leaving, for example, major artillery units immobile. Air Force aircraft were parked in neat, tightly-packed rows along their airfields rather than dispersed. Over 50% of all Soviet tanks required major maintenance on June 22, 1941. If an invasion were being planned, these maintenance tasks would have been completed. Most Soviet armor units were in the process of re-organizing into new Tank Corps; the German invasion caught these units in the midst of this reorganization. Such a large-scale reorganization is inconsistent with an impending invasion.

    The origin of Suvorov’s thesis may lie in the fact that Marshal Zhukov did suggest a pre-emptive strike on Germany early in 1941. Zhukov recalled this plan later but claimed either that the plan was rejected by Stalin or didn’t reach the leader at all. This doesn’t sound too convincing, though, as military historian Mikhail Meltyukhov has pointed out. First, it is hard to believe Zhukov’s claim that he had given the top secret document to a secretary so that the latter could deliver it to Stalin. Second, the claim by Suvorov rejectors that the document doesn’t have signatures really proves nothing. It is known that during those years official military documents were almost exclusively passed without proper formatting.[4]

    Another major Icebreaker’s issue in a lack of documentary evidences.[5] Cynthia A. Roberts notes that the book contains “virtually no documentary sources”, and therefore “has been viewed in the West as an anti-Soviet tract”. [6]

    Summarising the western scholars’ opinion on Icebreaker Hugh Ragsdale concludes that the book is “generally considered discredited” by now,[7] whereas Jonathan Haslam notes that Suorov’s claims “would be comical were it not taken so seriously”.[8] According to the latter, “there is a significant segment of opinion in Germany that wishes to rehabilitate the Nazi past, and the end of the Soviet regime created an atmosphere favorable to the publication of the book.”

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Icebreaker_%28Suvorov%29

  9. johnUK on August 2nd, 2010 8:37 pm

    “But Lenin’s/Stalin’s plan of European domination, beginning with Germany always, began early in the century, never changed, and was meant to be immediate. They had made several attempts at it.”

    If memory serves me correctly didn’t Trotsky and the other revolutionaries travel through Germany by train to carry out the “revolution”?

    Even in the main stream media it is acknowledged that Lenin was supported by Germany and years prior other than London and New York, Germany was a base for which these Jewish Marxist groups could organise and operate.

    “I presume that JohnUK, despite living in Britian???, is one of these crazy Russian National Bolshevist.
    Otherwise I can’t explain why ongoingly is defending Stalin, the Bolshevists and the USSR in his posts.”

    Why would a support them they are the anarchists sponsored by the CIA and western intelligence through NED.

    I would be a Eurasianist but I am a bit confused to exactly what there overall strategy is and if it includes Orthodox Christian alliance.

    “Otherwise I can’t explain why ongoingly is defending Stalin, the Bolshevists and the USSR in his posts.”

    Because the suppressed truth about Stalin especially prior to WW2 is a big fat lie and serves US lead NWO international political agenda.

  10. johnUK on August 3rd, 2010 11:58 am

    If Oliver Stone revealed the real truth about Stalin not the PC bogus version we get from the mass media, Harvard and other Cold War history institutions, political think tanks and organisations the wrath he would face would be immense and would never be aired on any US network.

  11. johnUK on August 3rd, 2010 12:00 pm

    By the PC version I mean the Trotskyite/CIA Cold War lies against him and the tens of millions dead hoax.

  12. A German on August 3rd, 2010 8:53 pm

    @JohnUK
    Facts? You’re just a loony and puny Stalinist!
    I don’t bother with you anymore.
    It makes no sense.

    “Stalin was wonderful! the 66 million people he killed together with Lenin and Trotsky is just a lie!”

    That’s branded in your tiny brain.
    Hopeless.

  13. johnUK on August 3rd, 2010 10:29 pm

    @A German

    66 million LOL!

    Your numbers are getting even more preposterous.

    If that were the case coupled with the loses during WW2 there would be hardly anyone left in the USSR to run the country.

    Apparently the Soviets had rail transportation technology far advanced of what we have today to be able to shift millions of people plus food and other materials.

    And you seem to think that Lenin, Trotsky and Stalin are the same were the exact opposite is true.

    “During his visit to Poland in 1937 Hermann Göring and Polish Marshal Edward Rydz-Śmigły agreed that it was not just Bolsheviks who are dangerous, but Russia itself as a state. The same year the Polish Joint Staff issued directive № 2304/2/37, which proclaimed the elimination of “any Russian state” as a final aim of Polish policies. Separatism was named as the instrument to attain this.

    “Elimination of the Polish sovereign state is the result of short-sighted policies of Poland’s politicians,” said Sotskov. “We could have put Germany between two fronts as the Triple Entente did during WWI.”

    Even the Polish army of Wladislaw Anders, which was created on Soviet territory, followed instructions of the Polish government in exile in London and was collecting intelligence against the Soviet Union “for the needs of a future uprising in Poland” and “creating intelligence cover for full-scale intelligence work after the war.”

    “These declassified documents testify that the Polish Joint Staff created a special subdivision to work with minor nationalities on the territory of the Soviet Union,” shared Sotskov.

    The main task of the project was the destabilization of the situation in USSR’s Ukraine, Caucasus and Volga region to spark separatist movements.

    “The USSR should be split according to nationality. Ukraine and Belarus should be torn from Russia and become independent states. In the meantime, the Russian state should be pushed further to the east, to the Volga River,” Sotskov cited the documents as saying.

    “To do so, Polish secret services created the Prometey organization, financed by Warsaw and with headquarters in Paris,” Sotskov continued.

    He also supposed that similar documents could be in the possession of the US or UK because after the invasion Germany seized Polish archives and later on they could be taken by the ally forces in Europe and brought overseas.”

    http://rt.com/Top_News/2009-09-01/poland-destruction-ussr-ww2.html

  14. Alaric on August 15th, 2010 11:52 am

    Not this bitter idiot johnUK again. Stick to MajorityRights or whatever other Anglophile, anti-White websites you happen to frequent, please. Better yet, don’t post on the net at all, just enjoy your circle-jerk with Dan Dare.

  15. johnUK on August 15th, 2010 1:57 pm

    Who is this [a------]?

    @Alaric

    Majority Rights is anti-white?

    It is obvious that Stalin did not kill 66 million people given the fact that there would not be anyone left after WW2 in the USSR never mind the technical and physical impossibility to transport and kill that many people in that period of time.

    I provide a wealth of knowledge which I am sure those who visit VOR will be aggrieved if I stopped commenting.

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