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The Sunic Journal: Interview with Keith Preston

June 8, 2010

Keith Preston

Topics include:

  • Pan-secessionism as the visionary tactic for detaching organically constituted communities from the Global-Bureaucratic Empire
  • National Anarchism and its importance as a growing movement
  • The need for communities to regain their innate sense of self-determination
  • The mind and life of the legendary Warrior-Intellectual Ernst Junger
  • Junger’s warrior ethos as a means for creating a truly free man

About Keith Preston

To learn more about Keith and his ideas for “Pan-secessionism Against the Empire” please explore his website Attack the System. You can download his award-winning essay “Free Enterprise: The Antidote to Corporate Plutocracy” here. Keith has also written interesting and insightful essays for the Alternative Right.

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20 Responses to “The Sunic Journal: Interview with Keith Preston”

  1. Jon on June 9th, 2010 2:17 am

    Very good interview. Again, Sunic explores areas considered taboo by WNists. To go where no man has before….keep up the great work Tom. Good educational diatribe. In the end, we all know what values we need to adhere to.

  2. De Deckert on June 9th, 2010 7:51 am

    This was a great interview by two great men. Keith has a very impressive mind and demeanor. He really does have something interesting to say. The highly dynamic topic of pan-secessionism should be a discussion we all engage in. It might be our only hope against this virulently anti-white top-heavy intergovernment bureaucracy that cannot seem to keep its hands off of us.

    I say good riddance to ALL the anti-Western Hate-State federal governments that are entrenched across the Western World.

  3. Ragnar on June 9th, 2010 8:14 am

    Great show. I will definitely take a look at Ernst Junger. Thank you.

  4. Gotterdammerung on June 9th, 2010 7:56 pm

    Excellent interview… huge fan of Ernest Junger!

  5. SpikeAgnew on June 9th, 2010 11:12 pm

    A great talk it’s always extremely helpful when specific works are suggested for reading. Visa-a-vis Doc Sunic previous conversations and Mr. Preston’s previous writing I became familiar with the name of Ernst Junger. Currently, I’m in the thick of Storm of Steel and enjoying it mightily. Ernst has just returned to front after his leg injury. Specifically, I’ve finished reading the part about when a piece of shrapnel makes it serendipitous entry into his leg after it has bounced over the courtyard wall, through the door into the room and past his comrade’s legs. I find Junger’s descriptive abilities and personal reflections take on a fictional, surreal quality to the point I have to remind myself it is a work of non-fiction.

    It seems to me from the description from Mr. Preston’s description of the anarch it can be understood as a modern Stoic and Junger as a sort of post-modern Marcus Aurelius or Epictetus.

  6. Conrad on June 11th, 2010 8:47 pm

    I cannot believe that the concept of secession in the U.S. is of any use.

    The only way that it could be of use to the white people of this country would be if a large group of whites moved to a certain state and seceded for the purpose of preserving their race. This would of course require the necessary military force to make it possible, and this we don’t have.

    I must wonder if this anarchist is just trying to break down this country and the white race faster by encouraging this idea. Unity is what we whites need not fractionalizing our nations or race.

    I suggest evolutionary racial unity. A bit utopian in vision but very useful for those of us that wish to see the white race evolve upward, in our own nations with the goal of becoming better and better over the next several generations.

  7. Mo on June 13th, 2010 5:47 am

    Not once during any of these interviews have I heard Tomislav Sunic or his guest truly explain National Anarchy. There’s nodding and shaking of hands when they explore theory and philosophy, but there are no practical comparisons or concrete examples. It’s all a grey fog, and I honestly can’t figure out if they’re being serious or if they’re simply trying to lead white people astray. Then again, this obfuscation is most likely intended.

    It’s funny that by taking this “on the edge” stance on an ideology that is essentially leftist, Tom Sunic is forcing us to into the realm of ideology when we want to criticise these leftist, anti-establishment ideas. He can simply rub it off by claiming that we’re misinterpreting the concept because of our political prejudice, or that we’re living in the past, the same way he devalues all traditional european nationalist thinking.

  8. Mo on June 13th, 2010 5:49 am

    Be on your guard, “folks”. ;)

  9. Mishko Novosel on June 13th, 2010 2:38 pm

    So Mo, what are you REALLY trying to say?

  10. Ragnar on June 14th, 2010 4:32 pm

    I, also, would like to know what Mo is REALLY trying to say.

    Dr. Tom Sunic and ALL the people at VOR are doing a great job for the White Race.

  11. Mo on June 15th, 2010 6:38 pm

    I think it’s pretty obvious what I am saying. National Anarchy is a ridiculous idea, and no one with a higher level of education and knowledge of history would promote if unless they had ulterior motives.

    We have national anarchists here in Europe (Germany, Sweden), but they mostly hang out with communists instead of nationalists. They speak like commies, think like commies, and organize like commies. Many of them convert over time. The same goes for the “european new right”, which is a collection of ideologically compromising, pseudo-intellectual homosexuals.

  12. Mo on June 15th, 2010 6:39 pm

    “If you will allow me to be frank with you here, folks”

    [I just caught this. I'll be frank with you Mo, your contemptuous behavior on this site is not appreciated at all. You can voice a critical opinion about the content of any given show, but there will be no more of this bullsh*t. This is Tom's page and you'll show respect to the man. He's a good guy and has done absolutely nothing to you to warrant this mockery. Steve(Codex)]

  13. Simon Friedrich on June 16th, 2010 7:54 am

    It is not Jünger’s warrior ethos that can create a truly free man – this is to remain at the surpassed phase of the Storms of Steel.

    Rather it is the Anarch, as presented in Eumeswil and through the example of the life of the author himself that is the way.

    Jünger himself went far beyond the warrior – even the Waldgaenger or Forest Fleer is a stage beyond the warrior or the Worker.

    Why do some many still read these old and outdated books of his when there is a wealth of wiser and more relevent material from his later works? Nothing wrong Storms of Steel – as a description of the trenches etc – but in comparison with Eumeswil or Glass Bees or Wall of Time etc, an adolescent’s work.

    Get with the times please! You are not Germans who have the excuse of having to work through their WWII guilt.

    Simon Friedrich
    http://ernst-juenger.org

  14. Simon Friedrich on June 16th, 2010 7:55 am

    It is not Jünger’s warrior ethos that can create a truly free man – this is to remain at the surpassed phase of the Storms of Steel.

    Rather it is the Anarch, as presented in Eumeswil and through the example of the life of the author himself that is the way.

    Jünger himself went far beyond the warrior – even the Waldgaenger or Forest Fleer is a stage beyond the warrior or the Worker.

    Why do some many still read these old and outdated books of his when there is a wealth of wiser and more relevent material from his later works? Nothing wrong Storms of Steel – as a description of the trenches etc – but in comparison with Eumeswil or Glass Bees or Wall of Time etc, an adolescent’s work.

    Get with the times please! You are not Germans who have the excuse of having to work through their WWII guilt.

    Simon Friedrich

  15. John on June 19th, 2010 4:03 am

    Pan-secessionism might could work with diverse (in comparison to each other) communities/regions. This is not lost on the one-worlders. Hence the homogenizing “diversity” (that’s facilitated by sticking Somalis in Minnesota).

  16. abraxas on June 20th, 2010 11:04 pm

    Couldn’t agree more with Mo here. National-Anarchism as an ideology is next to near useless and quite frankly dangerous to racial European common sense and integrity of spirit. Like National-Bolshevism, it is the left-right ambiguity of the ideology that attracts loud mouth youthful rancour who always if not eventually TURN towards the far-left (afterall they are already there in spirit and speech).

    Note Prestons early roots, national-bolshevism is in his innate blood.

  17. abraxas on June 20th, 2010 11:23 pm

    A couple of words of note here. Jüngers’ “Anarch” is not an excuse for National-Anarchism, rather it evokes the lone wolf (in the age of the wolf as it were), the Nietschean, the “man amongst the ruins” , the lone regal spirit who stands up without walls and roots himself as an island against the tide.

    Even though Jünger had awoken during his death defying war time experiences, he himself would eventually make his peace with democracy after WW2 and embrace his hated “bourgeois” comforts of his early youth.

    I’m not against dancing with the primordial ether in order to channel energies into new creative forms but let us keep a check on what we are fighting for.

    Yes I sympathise with Germanys circumstance today and its compromised position. Nonethless the proselytizing faith of NA will not save it and for potential German racialists to turn towards it and eventually give in to the Left is futher sign of the continued downfall of Germany in the triumph of modernist subversion.

  18. Simon Friedrich on June 21st, 2010 8:04 am

    Abraxas, you should go further than that – Juenger’s Anarch has nothing to do with National Anarchism, indeed nothing to do with any collective political or anti-political movements.

    An anarch is above all an individual.

    Just to be clear.

    Simon

  19. abraxas on June 21st, 2010 8:34 am

    Why of course, Friedrich, which is why any advocate of the Anarch should stay clear of said ideologies as noted by myself above. Yet it is the propegators of such ideologies that bleat the tune of Jünger as a matter of policy.

    I prefer the Evolian answer to the Anarch; the differentiated man who rides the tiger. Same thing, just vertically spiritualised. A regal monarch onto himself dug deep behind inner trenches.

  20. Simon Friedrich on June 22nd, 2010 5:21 am

    Abraxas, I’m glad you mentioned Evola’s Ride the Tiger. I once wrote on my blog about the comparison Anarch with the “differentiated man”. In fact to me your words “A regal monarch onto himself dug deep behind inner trenches.” perfectly describe the anarch.

    Much in Evola’s conception attracts me. However I believe that Juenger may have understood something better than Evola, though Evola made his attempt in Ride the Tiger: namely that Tradition has taken more of a beating than he thought. As Juenger says in “Aladdins Problem”, the break must be radical. Otherwise it will end up in a romantic cul-de-sac.

    While Evola is no romantic, I believe he still carries a chip on his shoulder regarding the undesirable changes that MUST however be. In this sense his break is not as radical as Juenger’s. He still looks back over his shoulder with regret for the past. As a metahistorian, the anarch understands the downwards cycle in which we must participate, but he judges it without emotion. He is not bitter, as Evola can sometimes be.

    In this sense, the Anarch has a brighter future than the differentiated man, even though the two are substantially so similar.

    Look at my blog here and comment if you like.

    http://www.ernst-juenger.org/2009/05/apoliteia.html

    Simon

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