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The Sunic Journal: Interview with Alain de Benoist, Part 2 of 2

January 26, 2010

In Part 2, Tom and Alain discuss Third World immigration into European countries, Islam’s current expansion, Alain’s critique of Capitalism and the “Americanization” of the world. The show includes:

  • Forced multiculturalism as the primary element of discord in European countries.
  • Capitalism as a bourgeois value system that prioritizes the accumulation of money above all else.
  • Alain’s thoughts on the future of America and Europe.
  • America’s Puritanical foundation and its quest for ethnic, social, economic and cultural Universalization

About Alain de Benoist

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Alain de Benoist was born on 11 December 1943. He is married and has two children. He has studied law, philosophy, sociology, and the history of religions in Paris, France. A journalist and a writer, he is the editor of two journals: Nouvelle Ecole (since 1968) and Krisis (since 1988). His main fields of interest include the history of ideas, political philosophy, classical philosophy, and archaeology. He has published more than fifty books and three thousand articles. He is also a regular contributor to many French and European publications, journals, and papers (including Valeurs Actuelles, Le Spectacle du Monde, Magazine-Hebdo, Le Figaro-Magazine, in France, Telos in the United States, and Junge Freiheit in Germany). In 1978 he received the Grand Prix de l’Essai from the Academie Francaise for his book Vu de droite: Anthologie critique des idees contemporaines (Copernic, 1977). He has also been a regular contributor to the radio program France-Culture and has appeared in numerous television debates.

To learn more about Alain de Benoist, read his insightful articles at his personal website and at The Alain De Benoist Collection.

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41 Responses to “The Sunic Journal: Interview with Alain de Benoist, Part 2 of 2”

  1. Rob on January 27th, 2010 3:53 am

    What a disappointment this second part of the interview was! I just don’t get de Benoist. Maybe he’s just too erudite an intellectual for stupid little ole me, but he sounded like he was saying Europe would have to accept cohabiting with non-white immigrants because it’s a reality which can’t be changed. He went on to slam American racialists as being obsessed with race and jews. By contrast, his pet obsession seems to be capitalism and semitic monotheism, which he’s against. Is this all the European “new right” has to offer? It sounds much more like revamped leftism to me. Mr. Sunic himself sounded like he was dumbfounded by this. I wonder if he’d like to comment and share his thoughts with us here. Has Mr. Sunic ever posted to these threads? As to the “new right”, I don’t see of what use they are to either American or European Whites. I’m also not going to hold my breath that somehow the salvation of White people and Western Civilization is going to issue from France.

  2. reality check on January 27th, 2010 9:15 am

    What did you expect? Alain de Benoist is NOT a racialist, he doesn’t even claim to be one either. Obsession with body-types (aka “race”) is something many truely erudite people shun and scorn, not because they are afraid of the watchdogs of “political correctness”, or because they would be brainwashed by it, or because it would morally outrage them, but simply because they think it is below their intellectual level. There is something vulgar, reductionist, triivial, gross about any conversation or worry about “race”, so that many intellectuals are repelled by it, aside from any “political correctness” or moral considerations. Something lowly and crassly materialistic.

  3. reality check on January 27th, 2010 9:17 am

    Just to add: people like de Benoist move in the realm of ideas, spirit, soul and there is no way to get them into the obsession with body-types or genetics. Maybe they would be ready to insert even such considerations into some concerns of wider scope, but as for them becoming focus solely on this materialistic side – no way!

  4. Chris on January 27th, 2010 4:35 pm

    I was also disappointed with the second half and bewildered with his defeatist attitude on mass immigration. Nonetheless, It was an interesting show and I looking forward to hearing more from him!

  5. johnUK on January 27th, 2010 6:19 pm

    Very good interview/discussion much better than the first one which I didn’t think really had much substance. I agree for the most part in everything Benoit said especially in the latter section of the interview/discussion.

    Read the comments here complaining about immigration was it not our elected political leaders that enacted laws that changed immigration policy?

    Is it not the Jewish white elites and organisations and there WASP establishment figures like McCain, etc that changed US immigration laws as MacDonald has highlighted in his book.

    Jews are white are they not?

  6. johnUK on January 27th, 2010 6:22 pm

    Accidentally posted my comment before I had a chance to change Read to Reading.

    Very good interview/discussion much better than the first one which I didn’t think really had much substance. I agree for the most part in everything Benoit said especially in the latter section of the interview/discussion.

    Reading the comments here complaining about immigration was it not our elected political leaders that enacted laws that changed immigration policy?

    Is it not the Jewish white elites and organisations and there WASP establishment figures like McCain, etc that changed US immigration laws as MacDonald has highlighted in his book.

    Jews are white are they not?

  7. Rob on January 27th, 2010 6:51 pm

    JohnUK, jews are not white, unless we count Arabs as white as well. Yes, they’re caucasoid, but they’re not the indigenous peoples of Europe commonly denoted as “White”.

    I don’t get your point. So because now we’v e been swamped with non-white migrants by a corrupt leadership, we’re supposed to just made do?

  8. Rob on January 27th, 2010 7:07 pm

    “There is something vulgar, reductionist, triivial, gross about any conversation or worry about “race”, so that many intellectuals are repelled by it, aside from any “political correctness” or moral considerations. Something lowly and crassly materialistic.”

    This “Race of the spirit” stuff from traditionalists like Evola has never made sense to me. After all, America is THE proposition nation which declares, like you have in a prior post, that race is a social construct and that what matters is subscribing to American principles. Look how well that ideology is working out for White America. These intellectuals get caught up in their metaphysical mumbo-jumbo eschewing “crass materialism” which takes on a life of its own unhinged from reality. They’re a useless side show.

  9. Edgardus de la Vega on January 27th, 2010 11:14 pm

    Having given twice an ear to ‘part 2′, Mr. Benoist’s supposedly acute conventions are intellectualisms to nowhere. Hence, the ongoing genetic demise of the Gallic people.

    Blood, genetics, and methods for its protection are the axioms of sole consideration: always.

    A man is only as good as his last statement in light of a given situation. Benoist should retire (that is intellectually).

    Deo Vindice.

  10. johnUK on January 28th, 2010 12:46 am

    @Rob

    Jews have integrated into west countries for hundreds of years starting with England and setting forth the banking and financial system for that country which latter expanded with the British Empire and system of international trade and finance. They have been well imbedded into western culture and history and have created the modern western cultural and political movements and social norms we adhere to unlike Arab people.
    Essentially Jews are the WASP elite.

    Most Europeans would consider Jews to be white they certainly are in appearance more so then Spaniards or Italians who appear to have a slightly darker skin tone.

  11. Tom J. on January 28th, 2010 1:22 am

    I don’t consider Jews to be White, although most non-racialists probably do consider Jews to be White. They just need to be educated.

    de Benoist not talking about “race” ??? Just the opposite. In fact, he clearly notes that the problem _is_ race and not religion. He clearly states that the problem with black Africans in France would still be a problem even if they all dropped their muslim religion. He also said that he is against race mixing.

    de Benoist clearly states that mass immigration is a negative and that he is against it. He just states that removing the immigrants isn’t likely – due to politics and the nature of the globalized market oriented world, not because he wants them.

    Sunic was throwing out hypothetical doomsday scenarios trying to get de Benoist to agree that balkanization is possible. de Benoist simply doesn’t see it happening – why should he ? As he correctly points out, we live in a globalized world where mixing is happening .

    Intellectuals tend to be defeatist and negative, so what else is new…

  12. Rob on January 28th, 2010 1:36 am

    JohnUK, I’m not going to engage you further on this topic because it’s obvious you have sophist tendencies like the obnoxious jew you debated a week or so back. You well know what a pernicious and alien presence jews have been within our nations. Yes, they’ve been embedded within our societies for a few centuries now, and their subversive presence has been a net negative for the indigenous peoples of Europe.

    I don’t give a rat’s ass what the brainwashed white masses of Europeans see jews as. They’re brainwashed by jewish media and see the world through a jewish prism just as White Americans do. My only advice to you would be to do a bit of research on mtDNA andy-chromosome haplogroup studies. The jewish genetic profile is definitely more in line with a middle eastern semitic one than a European one, and while the masses of white asses might not know the difference, jews themselves definitely see themselves as a breed apart and work to further their interests at the expense of others. You are a most peculiar fellow to have chosen to play devil’s advocate on this issue when I know from your other posts you know better.

  13. Captainchaos on January 28th, 2010 1:52 am

    JohnUK,

    I ask you now to be more than an insect skipping across the surface of nationalist discourse. Go deeper, become submerged. There you will find not the oxygen taken from your lungs inducing death but an other world in which and by which all the others values you cherish can only be had, and only truly there reside. With your own people. No, Scotsman, who you are, what your people are, is not merely skin deep. And if what is beneath the skin is lost, then so too will be what is wrought above it. Our civilization, our love, all that makes life worth living for us in this world. Do you not see that? Well, even if not, it does not matter, it is true none the less. There is nothing we will not do, whatever we must do, to save our people.

  14. johnUK on January 28th, 2010 3:42 pm

    “I’m not going to engage you further on this topic because it’s obvious you have sophist tendencies like the obnoxious jew you debated a week or so back.”

    My arguments I think are well reasoned and provide links to my arguments from impartial Jewish sources for which Joel Stein good only launch attacks calling them fascist sources. If you have credible sources to back up you’re thesis then post the links and I will read the other wise what you

    “The jewish genetic profile is definitely more in line with a middle eastern semitic one than a European one, and while the masses of white asses might not know the difference, jews themselves definitely see themselves as a breed apart and work to further their interests at the expense of others.”

    You’re telling me that there is no difference between the majority ethnic populations of Israel to there neighbouring countries in Jordan, Iraq, etc.

    You could not tell the difference by just a picture of a native Israeli with any citizen of the neighbouring country and not tell the difference?

    And it is obvious that they genetically integrated in some degree to the host population. There were literally millions of Jews in the in the former Pale of Settlement as well as throughout Europe.

    You have got to be kidding me you are saying Jews like Spielberg are genetically more similar to people like Ahmadinejad in Iran than say Tony Blair?

    Jews obviously consider themselves different from the host European population but I think it is more psychological with there tribal philosophy of Jew and non-Jew, of being a powerful ethnic minority which they have been taught and perceive themselves to be historically persecuted for merely being Jews which there own group behaviour in things like usury, slavery, conspiring with foreign enemies and leading radical political and subversive movements deemed hostile to the host country/population is never a factor.

    Sunic has referenced this before in one of his speeches the idea of victimology and national identity among various groups.

    The difference between Jews and other people is there immense wealth and power in academia and the media through film and TV and book publishing and promotion view historical events past and present through an exclusively Jewish perspective.
    With there connections in highest level in government and the intelligence community set forth a global agenda and influence with there domination in banking are able to transfer huge sums of money or cause economic warfare holding back or calling in loans like the former Yugoslavia after the fall of Communism in 89 or Soros engineered 98 Asian market crash.

    You see that in these manufactured CIA/Soros coloured revolutions or the best example of course is the Bolshevik revolution.

    But I don’t think they are genetically determined to behave in such manner.

    How to you explain senior non-Jews pushing and advocating for a globalist US lead NWO advocating and enacting policy that has killed millions some in top US establishment for decades most noticeably the Brzezinski clan but also the Bush dynasty, Cheney, Gates, Thatcher, Haig, Woolsey, McCain, etc.

    @Captainchaos

    I know about the non- existent race replacement threat in Europe of our 89/88 % white population according to the British census data with a even higher rate probably of 97/98% in Scotland which I have commented before on MR so maybe in a thousand years when we will be living in a one world government it might become an issue.

    And some of the WN leaders are really nutty like Jim “the hick” Giles, Alex “human sacrifice advocate” Linder and James “holocaust museum shooter” Brunn.

  15. Rich on January 28th, 2010 7:21 pm

    Most Jews in Israel do look like their neighbor arabs and persians. If you do not think that then I recommend visiting Lebanon and then Israel. You won’t see any difference.

    I think people claim to “see” a difference because they see an arab in traditional clothes, and a Jew in Western clothes. That impacts them psychologically as seeing two different types of people.

    Go to Lebanon where there are lots of arab girls in tight jeans and you’ll see they look _exactly_ like Jewish girls in tight jeans. Bone structure, nose, hips, etc. all the same. The boys look the same too – jeans and t-shirts, same hair, eyes, skin color, lips, etc. you won’t be able to tell them apart. Lots of big noses in both countries.

    Typical Jewish lips are seen on most arabs (Yasser Arafat being a good popular example). Look at the nose, lips, skin color and hair and there is no difference.

    Of course, it is well documented that Ahmadinejad _is_ ethnically a Jew. His family converted to Islam. So, he is a good example of what a Jew in the Middle East looks like.

    The European look of those Jews whose families were in Eastern Europe for a long time will slowly but surely disappear. The vast majority of Jews are Middle Eastern in appearance and their look will dominate increasingly.

    I don’t think Jews are genetically pre-disposed to be behave in any particular way either. People shouldn’t judge Jews by how American Jews behave. In Israel, the Jews are normal people in my opinion…just not European…

  16. johnUK on January 29th, 2010 1:12 am

    @Rich

    I will have to take you’re word for it I never really thought about Lebanon and Syria as well probably for that matter.

    I thought the Lebanese had a slight dark skin colour like the Spanish but different from the rest of the Mid East like Jordan, Egypt, Iraq, etc. The majority of Israeli’s I have seen on news reports, etc are of European stock with majority immigration from Eastern Europe and Germany and as white as the average European.

    Just look at Israeli government officials Netanyahu, Livi and Liberman.

    And because the Palestinians have a high birth rate in regard to Israeli’s which Israel resorts to harsh population control methods of water and travel restriction Israel’s survival as a state depends on an influx of immigration primarily from Russia and Ukraine.

    “Of course, it is well documented that Ahmadinejad _is_ ethnically a Jew. His family converted to Islam. So, he is a good example of what a Jew in the Middle East looks like.”

    Actually that story which appeared in the Telegraphy newspaper and has a history of printing bogus news stories was debunked by the Guardian newspaper.

    http://www.newsmax.com/InsideCover/Ahmadinejad-Jewish-disput/2009/10/05/id/335385

    Even if it were true the average Jew does not look like or have the same dark skin colour of Ahmadinejad.

  17. Arthur on January 29th, 2010 1:25 am

    I agree that the Mizrahim, including the Sephardic jews, look very much like Arabs. However the Ashkenazi are the dominant jews in Israel. Ashkenazim can often pass for White. I disagree that Israeli jews are “normal people.” If they are “normal” then I do not want to be normal. Another pogrom is brewing and it is well deserved, as usual.

  18. Captainchaos on January 30th, 2010 1:10 am

    JohnUK,

    You are aware that as of now half of the children under the age of five in America are non-White – let that sink in, let that trend work out in your mind, imagine the increasing hostility, disenfranchisement, miscegenation, violence, ever lowering birth rate that Whites will suffer. THE WRITING IS ON THE WALL!

    “And some of the WN leaders are really nutty like Jim “the hick” Giles, Alex “human sacrifice advocate” Linder and James “holocaust museum shooter” Brunn.”

    You are a navel-gazing twit at best, and an intentional obfuscationist at worst. Above is a blatant, knowing attempt to pathologize and shame into submission those that would advocate for the ethnic interests of their people. That you have one shred of credibility, are listened to by anyone who cares for their people, for even one second, is a travesty. How’s your Hebrew, John?

  19. Rich on January 30th, 2010 3:01 am

    @John :: thanks for the Guardian article link; looks solid.

    If skin color is the only variable then you will consider a lot of people around the world to be White even if they have little if any European blood. However, if you consider all features then it is clear who isn’t European.

    Even Jews with European heritage and White-ish skin can usually be identified as Jews. Take a look at the pages of faculty members of US law and medical schools — lots of Jewish noses.

    Actually, I’m not sure what the point of the debate is. Jews are genetically Middle Eastern and not European. Here is an article that demonstrates that pure Ashkenazi Jews are genetically distinct from pure Europeans:

    http://genomebiology.com/2009/10/1/R7

    “We show that, at least in the context of the studied sample, it is possible to predict full Ashkenazi Jewish ancestry with 100% sensitivity and 100% specificity, although it should be noted that the exact dividing line between a Jewish and non-Jewish cluster will vary across sample sets, which, in practice, would reduce the accuracy of the prediction. While the full historical demographic explanations for this distinction remain to be resolved, it is clear that the genomes of individuals with full Ashkenazi Jewish ancestry carry an unambiguous signature of their Jewish heritage, and this seems more likely to be due to their specific Middle Eastern ancestry than to inbreeding.”

    ——–

    The article also puts forth some reasoning as to why some southern Europeans and Jews will have similar qualities.

    ——

    Anyway, Israel is in the Middle East – Europeans have nothing to do with the country or its people.

  20. johnUK on January 30th, 2010 4:10 pm

    @Captainchaos

    “You are aware that as of now half of the children under the age of five in America are non-White – let that sink in, let that trend work out in your mind, imagine the increasing hostility, disenfranchisement, miscegenation, violence, ever lowering birth rate that Whites will suffer. THE WRITING IS ON THE WALL!”

    Where did you get this statistic from?

    It is like Fred Scooby over at MR he constantly cites things yet provides no proof which I rebuff his claims by citing and providing census data.

    “You are a navel-gazing twit at best, and an intentional obfuscationist at worst. Above is a blatant, knowing attempt to pathologize and shame into submission those that would advocate for the ethnic interests of their people. That you have one shred of credibility, are listened to by anyone who cares for their people, for even one second, is a travesty. How’s your Hebrew, John?”

    I forgot to mention another one Giles and Linders friend Bill “costume Neo-Nazi” White.

    Are they not senior white nationalist movement leaders?

    So you will be happy to volunteer yourself for Linder’s televised human sacrifice to preserve the race?

    If I was Jewish I wouldn’t be worrying about being human sacrificed.

    @Rich

    “This is an important finding for a number of reasons. Firstly, the Jewish subjects remain in a separate cluster when mixed with both European and Middle Eastern populations, suggesting that the original principal component axis seen in the European-Americans is indeed a Jewish-specific axis, at least in the context of the populations considered here. Secondly, the Jewish cluster lies approximately midway between the European and the Middle Eastern clusters, implying that the Ashkenazi Jews may contain mixed ancestry from these two regions. This is consistent with the Y chromosome and mitochondrial DNA genetic evidence that has been interpreted by some to suggest a stronger paternal genetic heritage of Jewish populations from the Middle East and stronger maternal genetic heritage from the host populations of the Diaspora [10]. Finally, the proximity of the Jewish cluster to the Adygei is of interest, but the small sample size of the Adygei and sparse availability of Central Asian populations makes interpretation of this proximity difficult.”

    They do of course retain there original Middle Eastern (I don’t buy the whole Khazar narrative) but the actually percentage of genetic percentage and Israelis are different not fully European but not the same as there neighbours in the Mid East.

    Ben Affleck or our foreign minister here in Britain David Milliband don’t have the stereotypical facial features of Kristol or Podhoretz?

    Jeri Ryan (7 of 9, Star Trek Voyager) who looks very European does not have the same features as Babara Boxer.

    http://www.moveleft.com/moveleft/images/jeri_ryan_light_blue_sweater.jpg

    And there have been different studies of the issue of Jewish DNA heritage with various results.

    http://www.jogg.info/11/coffman.htm

    If you asked Joel Stein he would say he is a European or identify with his European ancestry rather than that of the Middle East.

    “Anyway, Israel is in the Middle East – Europeans have nothing to do with the country or its people.”

    I take it you mean the average European or American has no psychical connection to Israel?
    Our foreign policy, political leaders and foreign aid and military presence not just to Israeli but its neighbouring states we have to prop up like Jordan and Egypt cost US taxpayers billions of dollars annually.

  21. Rob on January 30th, 2010 5:17 pm

    The point of the debate, Rich, is that this creature “JohnUK” is showing us he’s a sophist at best, and possibly a jew himself. Hence his attempt to insinuate jews into the White European family tree. Jewish parasites do this, you know. They’re like something out of a John Carpenter movie, “They Live” or “The Thing”.

  22. Captainchaos on January 30th, 2010 5:56 pm

    Here it is John, right from the U.S. Census:

    http://www.census.gov/Press-Release/www/releases/archives/population/013733.html

    All the consequences we speak of flow from that. The rest of what you have written is an attempt at rhetorical gamesmanship which amounts to so much drivel not worth addressing.

  23. Rob on January 30th, 2010 6:40 pm

    Captainchaos, you can also bet that Euro Whites are even less than this census report admits. I recently read somewhere that jews considering themselves “orthodox” comprise 1.8% of the population. You can bet that if that’s just the orthodox population, you can probably triple that percentage to include the reformed jews, atheists jews, mischlings, and the rest of them. On top of this, they include north Africans, middle easterners, and people from the caucasus as white as well. Likewise, many hispanics who are not white are also counting themselves as white. When you take all this into account, I’m positive the percentage of Euro-American whites is already well below 60%, and probably not much over 50%.

  24. Rob on January 30th, 2010 6:42 pm

    Just to clarify, I didn’t mean that ALL hispanics are not white, just that the mestizo hispanics aren’t, and yet even some of them classify themselves as white.

  25. Captainchaos on January 30th, 2010 7:17 pm

    Rob, here’s how we win, we go for the jugular, every time. Honing as instinct for where the jugular is located is the main concern.

  26. johnUK on January 30th, 2010 9:24 pm

    @Rob

    “The point of the debate, Rich, is that this creature “JohnUK” is showing us he’s a sophist at best, and possibly a jew himself. Hence his attempt to insinuate jews into the White European family tree. Jewish parasites do this, you know. They’re like something out of a John Carpenter movie, “They Live” or “The Thing”.

    You’re the one using the Talmudic attitude and terminology my friend.

    Is that why Jews are historically at the forefront of economic, political and government bodies and society in Europe and the Americas. There was millions of Jews confined to the Pale of Settlement in Russia and were only able to seize control of that nation in 1917 with western backed, financed and promoted coup.

    The British international monetary system which was the predominant trade and commerce for the world before WW2 and still is today with the US as its vassal was as it is now financed and control by the Rothschild banking dynasty.

    @Captainchaos

    Interesting for once I have actually been provided something concrete from a reliable source.

    Does this reflect their percentage of the population though 1/5th 20%?

    What is the white percentage population of the US?

    I guess we will have to wait until the 2010 census and compare the data.

    Any black chappies or Mexican homeboys in your hood CC?

    Looks like things are looking up Jack Nicholson has joined A3P and made a promotion video.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BxoEJck55OM

  27. Rob on January 30th, 2010 11:10 pm

    “Is that why Jews are historically at the forefront of economic, political and government bodies and society in Europe and the Americas.”

    What point do you think you’re making a counter-argument for with this silliness? That jews are somehow white Europeans because the parasites have insinuated themselves into Europe’s body? Clarify your points and try to make some sense.

    “You’re telling me that there is no difference between the majority ethnic populations of Israel to there neighbouring countries in Jordan, Iraq, etc.”

    NO, that’s you lying and misrepresenting what I’ve said to set up a strawman in a further attempt at sophistry. I stated that the genetic profile of jews was more in line with that of the middle east than with Euros. Even using the link you provided, you’ve failed to falsify my statement. The vast majority of jews, even the ashkenazi, carry haplotypes atypical for those of Euros, and this is not even including the sephardic jews who are still at least half of the jewish population in Israel. The males in particular carry majority near and middle eastern haplotypes. Though mtDNA seems more diverse, and obviously there has been some gene flow from all the trophy shiksas the kikes have converted over the ages to appease their jewish mothers, your own link states that though much of haplogroup H is due to European input, certain sub-clades like H4, H13 and H* remain unresolved, and some of these could well be of khazarian turkic ancestry. Does this all sound like the genetic profile of a typical European population, sophist?

    “What is the white percentage population of the US?”

    The sophist strike again! You’re obviously too lazy to have even made the effort to read his link. If you had, you could have subtracted the percentage they give for the minority population and then arrived at the percentage the article claims the white population is in the U.S.

    “You’re the one using the Talmudic attitude and terminology my friend. ”

    Why? Because I refer to jewish parasites as parasites? Employing straw men and sophistry to try to win an argument are nearly always the hallmark of the jew. And I’m certainly not your friend. So tell us, who in your family tree was the jew, that you’re so attached to the idea that they’re just another white European population?

  28. Captainchaos on January 31st, 2010 4:59 am

    “Any black chappies or Mexican homeboys in your hood CC?”

    Yup.

  29. johnUK on January 31st, 2010 3:48 pm

    @Rob

    “NO, that’s you lying and misrepresenting what I’ve said to set up a strawman in a further attempt at sophistry. I stated that the genetic profile of jews was more in line with that of the middle east than with Euros”

    Actually the genetic cluster said it is about half and half not more ME.

    What does that have to do with anything anyway the US populace is so pro-Jewish and Israel is the leadership of Israel decided to run for the US presidency he would easily win hands down.

    “Why? Because I refer to jewish parasites as parasites? Employing straw men and sophistry to try to win an argument are nearly always the hallmark of the jew.”

    No because you called me a “creature” just like gentiles are called goyim (cattle) in the Talmud.

    Are Giles and Linder not two of the most prominent WN leaders?

    @Captainchaos

    If you don’t like the situation you are in why don’t you do something about it?

  30. Captainchaos on January 31st, 2010 10:13 pm

    “If you don’t like the situation you are in why don’t you do something about it?”

    I plan on it, but not at the cost of effecting a more permanent solution, i.e., total reconquest of the North American continent which includes the full expulsion of all non-Whites (including Jews, they are not White) save Amerindians. Sound grandiose? Oh well, actually saving the race from its looming genetic annihilation is of grandiose proportions as well, so I figure, screw it.

  31. Elephant-Dynasty on February 2nd, 2010 9:32 am

    The majority of the jews of Europe can be considered and defined phenotypically as “whites”, even though the term white is not a biological one. Scientist does not characterise people in terms of, “white, ‘brown’, ‘yellow’, ‘semi-brown”, etc. So why is the right-wing supremasists using a pseodu-scientific terminology, is it to facilitate their own white-supremasist agenda?

    Im kurdish, and many people considere me as “white, in most cases people see me as a eastern european or southern European, especially the first time they meet me. However, this does not mean that I consider myself as a white-euopean, instead, I just wanted to point out an examnple; which is: that you can be from Middle East and still be phenotypically white.

    The Jews of Europe have been residing in Europe for over 2000 years, and of course, this affects the genepool of the jews in Europe. Nevertheless, new genetic science, have enabled genetics to trace the Ashkenazi jews back to other Diapsora jews, namely, Safardi…. The jews, are not encouraged by the Talmud, to intermarriages, however, the secular Jews of Eruope, has historically marriade non-jews.

    This phenomenen is discussed in, “The origins of totalitarianism”, by Hannah Arendt – wereby she states; that jews was not stimulated to cultural or genetic assimilation, by their states of resident. The reason was the economic position the jews of Euope held during 1700-1900 century, because the jews was the only “power” that could lend money to European governments, the states did not want them to be fully assimilated, since that would prohibit the state to borrow money…..

    However, this historical account can been discussed by historians, and Im unfourtunantly not an historian….

    according to Talmud, not

  32. Arthur on February 2nd, 2010 10:32 am

    Elephant-Dynasty I agree with you on one thing. You are not a historian.

    Here is some actual history:

    The king of the Khazars learned the Torah with the assistance of the Jewish preacher Isaac Sangari, whose existence has recently been verified (by the discovery of poems authored by Sangari in the Firkovitch collection of manuscripts). In the 9th century, the Khazarian kings and nobles officially converted to Judaism. Surrounded by the Islamic Eastern Caliphate of Persia and the Christian Byzantine Empire, the Khazars may have chosen Judaism as their state religion to avoid being religiously (and hence politically) dominated by either empire, so that they could avoid being labeled as heathens while at the same time remaining independent of their powerful neighbors. By the start of the 10th century, Judaism gained a stronghold among the common Khazar people, and the Hebrew script came into use in Khazaria. However, most of the soldiers in the Khazar army were Muslims, and the non-Khazar ethnic groups within the Khazar Empire (such as the Slavs, Bulgars, and Goths) did not adopt Judaism but rather remained pagans, Muslims, and Christians.

    The descendants of these Khazars who converted to Judaism many centuries after Christ became known as Ashkenazi Jews.

    Sources:

    Ausubel, Nathan. Pictorial History of the Jewish People. New York: Crown Publishers, 1953.
    Dimont, Max. Jews, God and History. New York: Simon and Schuster, 1962.
    Encyclopedia Judaica. “Ashkenaz”. Jerusalem: Keter Publishing House, 1972.
    Seltzer, Robert. Jewish People, Jewish Thought. New York: Macmillan Publishing Co., 1980.

  33. Joel Stern on February 2nd, 2010 12:39 pm

    Out of curiosity, I’ve just paid a brief visit today to the miasmatic bog and am not at all surprised to see that the customary swamp denizens Ranting Rob, the aptly named Captain Chaos, RS, John of UK, etc. are still busy at their “endeavor” of upholding Aryan supremacy and villifying its “subhuman” adversaries, to whom you attribute all the manifold evils with which you yourselves are so copiously endowed (e.g. lust, greed, parasitism, sophistry, gross stupidity, degeneracy, and so forth). If you think the existential crisis of your vaunted civilizatiion can be attributed solely–or even mainly–to the machinations of Jews in league with wahabists, jihadists, Chechens, Uighurs, Kurds, and other assorted malefactors, that is only one more symptom of your incurable paranoid ideatiion.
    However, if you would-be supermen are truly sincere and committed to furthering your cause (no matter how insane and chimerical it may seem to the vast majority of mankind) , it would certainly behoove you to undergo thorough and objective DNA testing (be sure, however, that the company testing you is run by scientists with impeccable Aryan lineage, otherwise the results might be deliberately falsified) to make it certain, beyond the shadow of a doubt, that your own genetic makeup is ABSOLUTELY free of any possible semitic, bantu, oriental, amerind, or other taint. And don’t rely on your chiseled phenotype, since that’s no guarantee: you know that crypto-Jews like Gunter Jutgens (commander of the Bismarck), Helmut Schmidt (a Luftwaffe lieutenant),, Eduard Milch (Deputy Commander of the Luftwaffe), perhaps even Reinhard Heydrich himself (who supposedly had a Jewish grandfather named Suess) sported a classic Nordic appearance yet under the Nuremberg Laws would be classified as racially “unrein.” (John of UK, you are an expert on these arcane matters; is it true that Heydrich really was a second-degree “mischling?)
    In the most unfortunate event that any of you should discover the slightest trace of non-Ar;yan pedigree in your bloodline, I would expect you to follow the courage of your convictilons: refrain from all sexual relations with unsullied Aryan maidens and, if you have offspring and a spouse, it would further behoove you to sterilize them lest they pass on their contaminated genes to the Volksgenossen of the future white utopia that so beguiles your fevered imagination. I know you will honor the precepts of that great geneticist and humanitarian Julius Streicher, who declared that one sexual contact (“Blutschande”) with a non-Aryan forever excludes one from the ranks of the Volk. Can you disagree with this iron logic?
    Indeed, I can well imagine that there are those who, upon discovering a genetic blemish in their suppsedly simon-pure ancestry, may fall upon their swords to expunge this disgrace, just as the Japanese samurai were wont to do in a humiliating, hopeless situation.. But that, admittedly, is an extreme step, one to be taken only by the bravest, most dedicated warriors for the Aryan ideal..

  34. Rob on February 2nd, 2010 2:32 pm

    “If you think the existential crisis of your vaunted civilizatiion can be attributed solely…”

    And since you take such a mocking tone towards our “vaunted” civilization, are we correct to assume you show your disdain for it by living outside it? What part of the world to you reside in?

    What have you jews created as a viable alternative to it?

    Our existential crisis derives from our greatest weakness: that of having fallen for the egalitarian nonsense fostered first and foremost by the parasitic subhuman bacillus known as the jew. Too many of our kinsmen see you as human, and even white. The world comes knocking on the door of our “vaunted” civilization from their own failed societies, and jews and liberals brainwashed by jews have let them in. That is the root of our “existential crisis”, you varmint.

  35. Rob on February 2nd, 2010 2:49 pm

    “Im kurdish, and many people considere me as “white”

    Many people consider you white where? In Europe? Yet another verminous invader of our ancestral homelands, I presume?

    You’re no whiter than the alien jews are. In fact, Kurds have a similar genetic profile to jews and are considered genetically closest to them, so that explains why you would be so keen to demonstrate jews’ whiteness. You are even prone to similar diseases as they are.

    “So why is the right-wing supremasists using a pseodu-scientific terminology, is it to facilitate their own white-supremasist agenda?”

    Nothing pseudo about it. Europeans are real. The indigenous natives of Europe are the ones we’re concerned with, and they are the peoples denoted as “White”. There is a massive migrant and race replacement program directed against and only against the indigenous peoples of Europe, and the European derived peoples of America, Australia, etc. You, on the other hand, would love to see that terminology broadened in order to facilitate your own migratory agendas into our territory. That is what ultimately lies behind such arguments. Is that not so? If not, and you still reside in Kurd territory, then you have no reason to worry your little kurdish head about us and what we want to designate ourselves as, do you?

  36. johnUK on February 2nd, 2010 4:49 pm

    @Joel Stern

    .”..to the machinations of Jews in league with wahabists, jihadists, Chechens, Uighurs, Kurds, and other assorted malefactors, that is only one more symptom of your incurable paranoid ideatiion.”

    But it is a true and it is easy to prove. You just have to look at the people at the forefront of these organisations and individuals promoting these groups while having a strong Israel bias even in the case of the Bosnians and Chechen which have strong links to Palestinian groups in Jordan and Hamas with Ottomon era ethnic links and WW2 (Caucasus foreign units in Bosnian SS) and resulting post war migration into the Mid East.

    Here is a 2004 declassified 1998 Defence Intelligence Agency (DIA) Intelligence Information Report (IIR) of foreign terrorist’s networks in Russia and the Crimea and Central Asia from Afghanistan and Pakistan through Turkey and Azerbaijan from a 2000 Freedom of Information act request from Judicial Watch with there stated goal to create and activities to create an Islamic state from predominantly Muslim regions in Russia then Russia as a whole through terror and ethnic cleansing and acquire biological and nuclear material to achieve there goals .

    http://www.judicialwatch.org/story/2004/nov/defense-intelligence-report-details-al-qaedas-plans-russia-chechnya-and-wmd

    http://www.judicialwatch.org/cases/102/dia.pdf

  37. Captainchaos on February 2nd, 2010 7:50 pm

    JohnUK is an apologist for Stalinism and the Stalinist liquidation of the native elites of the nations that the Soviet Union swallowed up during WWII, even leaving aside the butchering of tens of millions of Russians under Stalin. So enamored is he with his talisman of Eurasian geopolitics that he has apparently lost any semblance of human concern for the flesh and blood life of the Russian people, and the physical (read: genetic) continuation of same. Just where do you get off lecturing Joel the Jew on his all too apparent moral and intellectual shortcomings, John?

  38. johnUK on February 2nd, 2010 10:00 pm

    @Captainchaos

    I have recently been doing research on Stalin and he is the most lied about person on the planet.

    Most of what we know about the Stalin era is from Robert Conquest who after World War II, joined the Information Research Department of the British Foreign Office which mission was a covert “propaganda counter-offensive” against the Soviet Union and the National Endowment for Democracy funded Memorial organisation.

    “Repression and mass killings carried out by German and Soviet leaderships during the period 1930-45 differed in several respects. It appears that the German leader Adolf Hitler put to death at least five million innocent people mainly because of his antipathy towards Jews and communists. In contrast, Soviet leader Josef Stalin ordered the murder of some one million people because he apparently believed them to be guilty of crimes against the state. He was careful about documenting these executions whereas Hitler did not bother about making any pretence at legality.”

    “The Scale and Nature of German and Soviet Repression and Mass Killings, 1930-1945″, Europe-Asia Studies 48 (December 1996), 1319-1353

  39. Arthur on February 4th, 2010 3:02 am

    Joel the Troll wrote: “…upon discovering a genetic blemish in their supposedly simon-pure ancestry..,”

    None of the White men posting here wrote anything about the purity of their race. Only Joel the Troll mentioned racial purity. This is typical chutzpah. Jews, especially the Ashkenazim believe in and practice racial purity to the extreme. So much so that they have developed inbreeding diseases such as Tay-Sachs disease, which is exclusive to their race.

  40. Skeeter on February 6th, 2010 6:20 pm

    I don’t know why Sunic insists on bringing up his reactionary fantasies–I mean, theories about ethnic violence in every interview he does. He has now been refuted by both Paul Gottfried and Alain de Benoist. Give it up, Tom!

  41. Ragnar on July 25th, 2010 5:41 pm

    I was very disappointed and angered to hear Alain de Benoist being so defeatist in regards to Whites getting the non-Whites out of Europe. I am not interested in hearing that I have to put up with the invasion of my homelands. I will not put up with it!

    Alain de Benoist does not know what the White Race is going to do!

    I agree that a cultural movement is important, but the White Race does not need defeatists like Alain de Benoist to lead it into an age of enlightenment, it needs philosopher warriors!

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