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Mishko and Dietrich, 11/27/2009

November 29, 2009

This Week in Disorganized America: Mishko takes calls for the evening, and the plan is to have more shows that take calls on our 800 number.

  • Kevin and James weigh in on current events
  • Dubai the disaster that was bound to happen
  • Racial Identity
  • Crime Reports
  • And much more…

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31 Responses to “Mishko and Dietrich, 11/27/2009”

  1. Fenrisulfr on November 29th, 2009 6:52 pm

    Revision from my comment – Dubai uses the United Arab Emirates Dirham (AED)

  2. walt h on November 30th, 2009 9:19 am

    Fellows…I have a job that requires me to spend hours of mindless time working with morons(am I one of them?)and driving. I work sundays. The only thing that makes Sundays bearable is the NEW Disorganized Show. Lately I have been unable to get it until Monday.(I leave in the morning) Is this me? Or has there been an upload issue. Hey..mind you Im not complaining. Love the show. I augh out loud at work with my earphones on, listening on my iphone.(ALL APPLE HERE)
    Keep up the good work, better late than never/)You see Im off on Mon thru Wed, so when I get to lissen…its old news)

  3. Jamie on November 30th, 2009 1:26 pm

    I like having other folks on the show and more callers. Keep up the good work. The show is getting better all of the time.

  4. James Brown on November 30th, 2009 5:47 pm

    Kevin came with an articulate set of rocks from N.Carolina! I’d love to be on a show with that dude again! Mish, of course, comes with the set night after Fire-day night, week in, week out… WHAT! Loving the Mish and D show. REALLY MISSED THE D! I know he ain’t religious and all that, but still, he’s got some spirit and brains like a tornado. Just when you think the storm is over, D hits it with the magnitude of an EF5. I don’t know if it could work without the MISH! It is… it’s the Beatles people. It’s Lennon and McCartney. … and I love the Beatles. (You’d never know by my accent) Yeah, Mish and D is my Beatles. I was half in the bag when I figured out that D wasn’t coming. I was like… I’m going to jump into the show. Loved it. Jump in there gentlemen… don’t be skeered. Try not to cuss, all that, but these guys have your best interests at heart. It really is a kind lot of people with common interests, OUR INTERESTS! Give ‘em hell guys! I was born on a pool table and I been playing ever since. These guys don’t play, they shoot straight, and if you’ve been mistreated elsewhere, don’t worry about ‘em here. They’ll take care of you man. 110% good dudes! Mind your manners though. It’s like that… I like to cuss… sorry about that. I had to bail out a bit early because I got a call from a really sharp dude. He’s from another country and I’m stark raving mad about foreigners so I had to pepper him with questions. He’s like way smarter than me, so see, I got to probe that. Where I differ on the whole magruder is only on one question… if you come here, to America, are you willing to earn your keep? Are you willing to deliver intelligence to the underground? Here is where the immigrant balks. I want you to love America the way I do. THAT’S WHAT I WANT. If you fly another flag other than the American flag… I have to hold you at a distance. That’s how I am guys. I love big international brains and have many online international friends. We talk it over, just like we did on this show. I encourage every American to call in and talk to my men here. They’re good dudes. You know what I love you guys. I do. I’m not the most articulate piece of work you’ll ever run into, but like you, I LOVE THE TRUTH! I get my truth every Friday from Mish and D! I agree that we need viewer call ins / feedback so that we are all in touch. Our world is very different in Tennessee than it is in California, or for North Carolina for that matter. The big truth is though that we love America, we love our people and we are NOBODY’S DOORMAN OR DOORMAT. Anybody who think they want to walk all over us, bring it. We’re right. Not afraid of any political or social persecution. Not afraid to differ with my Brothers. Not afraid of anything. The point is the discussion and the debate. We’ll take you from Charles Darwin to Jesus Christ. Everybody’s opinion is welcome. Call in, don’t be scared… or skeered. I don’t apologize to anybody unless I really feel that I’m wrong. You shouldn’t either. Grab your set, stand up like a man, and talk to these awesome minds! It will edify us all. Every man honor another man’s beliefs, every man honor their own self respect and manners, and every man be willing to listen. From there, we can gain wisdom. Let’s go gentlemen, we’ve been silent to long. I know there are good men who hear us, you have no reason to tuck your tail and hum along with this political nonsense. Stand for your beliefs men! You are men from a proud heritage that others would dispossess you of because they fear you. They seek to undermine you. Don’t be afraid… stand up. You are MEN! I want to thank the Mish and the D for opening my mind. There are others from other networks that I equally congratulate for bringing into the light. Now I know where I come from, I know what and who I am. I am here like every other creature of the earth… I will be fruitful and multiply. So should you! Go men, YOU ARE A NATION!

  5. James Brown on November 30th, 2009 5:54 pm

    I know, my grammar lacks something to be desired… i wrote it in a fit of …. nationalism. Gentlemen, grab your set and be a Man. There’s nothing to fear. WE ARE FREE TO SPEAK OUR MINDS. AMEN.

  6. James Brown on November 30th, 2009 5:56 pm

    YEAH, TOMORROW BELONGS TO US!

  7. James Brown on November 30th, 2009 7:54 pm

    I’m going to go off record now. I know this guy. Shhh. =) You’re fun.

  8. James Brown on November 30th, 2009 7:57 pm

    You got the big story. WELL DONE!

  9. James Brown on November 30th, 2009 9:19 pm

    I know… I’m mean as a snake. Let them run their mouths… I want that… hiccups to you. I can handle all things………………….

  10. Steve on November 30th, 2009 9:38 pm

    Were the hell is this chat?

  11. Bill on November 30th, 2009 10:11 pm

    James, are you enjoying a nice conversation with yourself?

  12. Mishko and Dietrich Fan. on December 1st, 2009 12:19 am

    I must say, I always miss Dietrich when he isn’t on the show. No offense Mishko, you both bring your own dinnerware to the table…but when one of you isn’t there, it isn’t the same. I found this site by accident last May after being led from Edgar J. Steele’s site. This site is by far the best. I love the intellect presented here. You guys are the best…don’t change a thing. Look for a donation.

  13. james brown on December 1st, 2009 3:41 am

    hey guys,

    let me tell you what… yeah, I got a screw loose when it comes to these issues. However, if you listen to the truth long enough and get your head out of your goddamn ass… then, you’ll be like me. God help you because I can tell… you already made babies. Grab your set men, man up, and speak for yourself. Don’t make Mish and D do it for you. Grab your set MEN!

  14. james brown on December 1st, 2009 3:49 am

    P.S. I like talking to myself because I make the most sense. Now, grab your set and call in to the show. If you can make more sense than me, you should. What in the hell are you busy doing? Building a goddamn replica of nottingham forest for Robin Hood? Grab your set men… I’m not shitting you.

  15. Steve on December 1st, 2009 4:04 am

    Trippy vibes.

    So….where’s this esoteric chat?

  16. davo on December 1st, 2009 9:45 am

    “P.S. I like talking to myself because I make the most sense. Now, grab your set and call in to the show. If you can make more sense than me, you should. What in the hell are you busy doing? Building a goddamn replica of nottingham forest for Robin Hood? Grab your set men… I’m not shitting you.”

    Stop spamming the comments section, you loon. Clearly, the orderlies need to lock you in your padded cell much earlier.

  17. Arthur on December 3rd, 2009 3:32 pm

    Mishko, you did a great job as always. I was a little disappointed with your caller/guest James Brown (hardest working man in show business) from Tennessee. James, please do not drink next time you are on the air. I strongly disagreed with James, especially his opinion that the military should kill “terrorist suspects” and not be held accountable when go overboard. I do not know the particulars of the case to which you guys were referring, but James seemed to think that the military should have a free hand to kill anyone and everyone that may be a “terrorist.” I have some bad news for you James. There is a high probability that the war on terror will also be fought domestically with the military in combat action inside of the USA. When soldiers are in Tennessee shooting anyone and everyone in sight and calling them “terrorists” maybe you will see the light. Would you cheer the soldiers as they shot all your family? Would you worship them and offer to shine their boots after they kill your family? Every person in earth can be classified as a “terrorist” under the provisions of the Patriot Act and subsequent legislation. There is very little doubt that listeners to this show are already classified as “terrorists” and certainly a caller/guest on the show would be classified as a terrorist. I have no doubt that I am now classified as a terrorist for posting this message.

    Having said that I do think it is useful to hear and know other opinions, such as yours. By the way, I have served in the U.S. military during war myself. I am a patriotic American, but that does not mean that I support war crimes.

  18. Arthur on December 3rd, 2009 4:02 pm

    James, I noticed that you have a website link so I went there to look and read. The following is a copy and paste from your own website link:

    “The Russians have caught wind of a clandestine movement of American troops around the world. The claim is that while everyone is focused on a proposed 40,000 troop increase in Afghanistan, there is a 1,000,000 troop pullback from bases around the globe. These troops are allegedly being brought home for the apocalyptic economic meltdown to establish martial law.”

    James, “martial law” means soldiers on combat duty in Tennessee. Do you think these soldiers should kill all “terrorist suspects” they happen to catch in their sights in Tennessee? Keep in mind that if you are a gun owner you are classified as a terrorist. If you do not vote for either the Democrats or Republicans you are classified as a terrorist. If you have a bumper sticker that may be politically incorrect you are classified as a terrorist. If you have ever listened to the “This Week in Disorganized America” show you are classified as a terrorist. There are also many other ways to end up on the “terror watch list.” The irony is that you are of the opinion that any soldier who comes across you should kill you on the spot with no due process. You are entitled to your opinion. Good luck. By the way, I have already voted with my feet. I got out of Dodge City while the getting was good. I never travel or visit the USA, or even fly over US airspace and I do not travel to countries that like to drop the bar of soap bend over to accommodate the USA.

  19. james brown on December 3rd, 2009 4:06 pm

    I respect your opinion and willingness to share it. Maybe I need to work on myself a bit. For the record, I do NOT consider you a terrorist. Thanks for the feedback.

  20. james brown on December 3rd, 2009 4:26 pm

    Lastly,

    I genuinely appreciate the opportunity to be heard. I encourage others to voice their opinions. I’m listening. See you on Friday?

  21. james brown on December 3rd, 2009 9:02 pm

    You know what, I’d love to answer your questions honestly, but I can’t do that here. You are welcome to skype me. I promise, I will be respectful. I know I have a drinking problem. I’m going to rehab next month in fact, but I do care about your country and your concerns. I apologize for the Robin Hood comment. That was uncalled for and ridiculous. I genuinely do appreciate everyone who has contributed to the effort. We were all huddled together in a hanger one time… and they were saying… The British are coming! This time though, it was because we genuinely wanted to meet you. (not like Paul Revere and the American Revolution) At the last minute though, we had work to do and didn’t get to meet them. ( the UK people) I’ve met a few of you, i like you. I like Gordon Ramsay. (That’s the BBC’s fault.) I look longingly at videos of landscapes from Ireland and Scotland. Something inside me remembers that. It no longer belongs to me though mate. This is America, I’m in it. Innit? I’ve met a few of you. I’m sorry if I said something offensive. That was wrong of me. Don’t be afraid to speak your mind though. I don’t care who calls who a terrorist. I know what freedom is… I love it. I shall have it. I want everyone to be free to speak their mind. I think I may have worn out my welcome on this forum. It’s ok. I wish I could give you what I feel in my guts. It’s a lot for one man. I feel like you guys will be there tomorrow. I think you care. I never want to hurt anybody. I want you to feel alive. We only live once. I’m the quintessential American Chav. I don’t own one grain of sand over there. I want to know why I should care. I question this all the days of my life.

  22. Arthur on December 3rd, 2009 11:39 pm

    I have newfound respect for Dietrich. You do not know how good something (or somebody) is until you do not have it (or them). Mishko seemed to be the star of the show as far as I was concerned because he is so likable, persuasive and humorous. I enjoy the interaction between Mishko and Dietrich. It is abundantly clear that Dietrich is very smart and articulate, but I favor the more personable character of Mishko. Mishko is a real pro and he can make the show good even without Dietrich, but I hope “D” does not often take breaks like this from the show. As a team you two guys are awesome, but when one of the team is AWOL the show suffers.

  23. Arthur on December 4th, 2009 1:29 am

    A topic for discussion on the show was the origin of the Khazars. The Ashkenazi tribe of Jewish converts (AKA Khazars) has no blood relationship whatsoever with the biblical Jews.

    Just to keep the record straight, the following is a condensed summary of the origins of the Ashkenazi tribe of Judaism:

    The Origin of the Ashkenazi tribe of Judaism: The Khazars were a Turkic tribe that migrated to the steppes of what is today southern Russia and eastern Ukraine by the 5th century. The Khazars established a powerful kingdom that existed from the mid-7th century until the early-11th century. The Khazars had a two-king system, consisting of a military king (bek) and a sacral king (khaqan). The Khazar army, which took orders from the bek and the military commander (tarkhan), included tens of thousands of professional soldiers.

    TIMELINE: 591 AD-Khazarians move west of the Caspian Sea. 620 AD -All areas east of the Volga and south of Bulgar are captured by the Khazarians. 631 AD -Atil (Itil) is founded on the east bank of the Volga. 737 AD -The Kagan converts to Islam.

    The Khazars were a potent military force in eastern Europe until about the middle of the 11th century, their last power base being the Crimean peninsula. In the 7th and 8th centuries, they defeated the Eastern Caliphate in several key battles, thus halting the spread of Islam north of the Caucasus mountain range, much the same as what the Carolingian rulers did to the Western Caliphate at the Pyrenees.
    (Ironically, these Jewish converts made Eastern Europe safe for Christianity.)

    The Khazars gained control over major waterways such as the Caspian Sea, the Volga River, and the Dnieper River. The Khazar kings collected tribute from many of the East Slavic tribes as well as from traders traversing their country. Large garrisons were stationed at hill-forts located at strategic points throughout the kingdom (e.g., Kiev by the Dnieper, Sarkel by the Don, Samandar by the Caspian) to guard against enemy invaders such as the Rus.

    The king of the Khazars learned the Torah with the assistance of the Jewish preacher Isaac Sangari, whose existence has recently been verified (by the discovery of poems authored by Sangari in the Firkovitch collection of manuscripts). In the 9th century, the Khazarian kings and nobles officially converted to Judaism. Surrounded by the Islamic Eastern Caliphate of Persia and the Christian Byzantine Empire, the Khazars may have chosen Judaism as their state religion to avoid being religiously (and hence politically) dominated by either empire, so that they could avoid being labeled as heathens while at the same time remaining independent of their powerful neighbors. By the start of the 10th century, Judaism gained a stronghold among the common Khazar people, and the Hebrew script came into use in Khazaria. However, most of the soldiers in the Khazar army were Muslims, and the non-Khazar ethnic groups within the Khazar Empire (such as the Slavs, Bulgars, and Goths) did not adopt Judaism but rather remained pagans, Muslims, and Christians.

    The descendants of these Khazars who converted to Judaism many centuries after Christ became known as Ashkenazi Jews.

    Sources:

    Ausubel, Nathan. Pictorial History of the Jewish People. New York: Crown Publishers, 1953.

    Dimont, Max. Jews, God and History. New York: Simon and Schuster, 1962.

    Encyclopedia Judaica. “Ashkenaz”. Jerusalem: Keter Publishing House, 1972.

    Seltzer, Robert. Jewish People, Jewish Thought. New York: Macmillan Publishing Co., 1980.

  24. Arthur on December 4th, 2009 9:04 am

    Origins of Jews Primer

    Jews were first known as Semites. The Semites seem to have originated in the vicinity of Mesopotamia about 6000 years ago. The early Semites were nomadic shepards. They went where the grass was greener and that was probably the reason why they thrived when so many other tribes were wiped out. They did not become entrenched to defend the land that their sheep grazed on. They moved on to new pastures whenever the grazing or other conditions were no longer ideal. The Semites tended to avoid warfare by simply moving on whenever a superior force threatened them. They eventually would become known as Hebrews and would spread throughout North Africa and the Middle East.

    The earliest known inhabitants of the region we call the Holy Land (bounded by the Jordan River, the Mediterranean, Lebanon, and the Sinai Peninsula) were the Canaanites. Under Joshua’s leadership, the Hebrews conquered Canaan around 1250 B.C. The Scriptures indicate that the Hebrews committed genocide against the indigenous population of Canaan.

    It was a harsh world in those days and the right of conquest was internationally recognized as legitimate at that time. Therefore, the Hebrews who managed to ethnically cleanse Canaan of its indigenous population did have every right to claim the land as their own. These Hebrew who committed the holocaust against the Canaanites were “God’s Chosen People” according to the Hebrew Scriptures. These people were the direct descendants of the original Semites from Mesopotamia (Iraq). Perhaps these people really were and are “God’s Chosen People.” However, the people who control Israel today are not the direct descendants of those original Semite people (other than the claim as to have descended from Adam and Eve). In fact, the real descendants of the original Semite people are severely discriminated against within Israel today and hold very few positions of any power or consequence. The direct descendants of the Biblical Jews are today known as Sephardic Jews. The term Sephardic Jews is used as a blanket description of any Jews who do not trace their lineage through middle and northern Europe. Most of those who are called Sephardic Jews can trace their lineage to Jewish communities which have existed in the Middle East for centuries. However, the term Sephardic Jews serves a political purpose – it allows one to avoid saying Arab Jews, and thus admit that Jews have been integral parts of Arab communities for the past couple of millennia.

    Today, about 10 million of the 13 million Jews in the world are Ashkenazi. The overwhelming majority of the Jewish population occupying Israel today are Ashkenazi Jews. The name Ashkenazi (which originally meant “German”) is used to refer to any Jews who descend from whose who lived in northern Europe and whose customs generally derive from Germanic Judaism. The label Ashkenazi is usually used as a distinction from Sephardic Jews because the two groups developed two distinct cultures. Ashkenazi Jews are extremely brutal to Palestinians and any people they see as a threat or rival. Perhaps their extreme brutality and ruthless conquests explains why their tribe has become dominant.

  25. Dr James Dickie on December 4th, 2009 6:47 pm

    It is one of the greatest paradoxes of modern history that the real Jews were precisely the people whom the “Jews” drove out of Palestine in 1947-49 by a combined programme of genocide and expulsion, precisely the method being used at the same time by Communist regimes for the ethnic cleansing of Eastern and Central Europe, or the method pursued by “Americans” for the genocide of the Plains Indians in pursuit of a destiny manifest only to themselves, or for the genocide of the Afrikanners in South Africa in Kitchener’s concentration camps, where diseases were introduced on purpose to wipe out the women and the children and thereby strike at the biological root of the Afrikanner nation (the male component could be eliminated by military means since they were fighting in the Veldt). In all three cases the object was the same: to create an empty landscape that could be settled by people induced to emigrate from their previous habitat through poverty. Zionism spread in the Pale of Settlement like wildfire, as did Communism, both creeds being Jewish and alternative solutions to the predicament in which the Jews found themselves under the Tsar, who saw it as his duty as the “Little Father” to protect the Russian people from these new, non-Russian boyars; and like Communism it is essentially an Ashkenazi phenomenon. The Ashkenazim are the convert Jews, who spread all over Russia and Eastern Europe when the Khazarian state imploded in the 11th century, in other words a diaspora of Armeboid peoples notorious for an innate disposition toward criminality. The real Jews, the Palestinian expelees, are the survivors of the destruction of Jerusalem in AD 70 and the failure of the Bar Cochba revolt in AD 135 and whowere assimilated when the inhabitants of the Arabian Peninsula conquered the Fertile Crescent following the death of the Prophet Muhammad but chiefly during the reign of the second caliph ‘Umar ibn al-Khattab, the people with the moral title to the soil like the indigenous population of North, Central and South America who are now in refugee camps similar to the Reservations.

  26. Dr James Dickie on December 4th, 2009 6:50 pm

    It is one of the greatest paradoxes of modern history that the real Jews were precisely the people whom the “Jews” drove out of Palestine in 1947-49 by a combined programme of genocide and expulsion, precisely the method being used at the same time by Communist regimes for the ethnic cleansing of Eastern and Central Europe, or the method pursued by “Americans” for the genocide of the Plains Indians in pursuit of a destiny manifest only to themselves, or for the genocide of the Afrikanners in South Africa in Kitchener’s concentration camps, where diseases were introduced on purpose to wipe out the women and the children and thereby strike at the biological root of the Afrikanner nation (the male component could be eliminated by military means since they were fighting in the Veldt). In all three cases the object was the same: to create an empty landscape that could be settled by people induced to emigrate from their previous habitat through poverty. Zionism spread in the Pale of Settlement like wildfire, as did Communism, both creeds being Jewish and alternative solutions to the predicament in which the Jews found themselves under the Tsar, who saw it as his duty as the “Little Father” to protect the Russian people from these new, non-Russian boyars; and like Communism it is essentially an Ashkenazi phenomenon. The Ashkenazim are the convert Jews, who spread all over Russia and Eastern Europe when the Khazarian state imploded in the 11th century, in other words a diaspora of Armenoid peoples notorious for an innate disposition toward criminality. The real Jews, the Palestinian expelees, are the survivors of the destruction of Jerusalem in AD 70 and the failure of the Bar Cochba revolt in AD 135 and whowere assimilated when the inhabitants of the Arabian Peninsula conquered the Fertile Crescent following the death of the Prophet Muhammad but chiefly during the reign of the second caliph ‘Umar ibn al-Khattab, the people with the moral title to the soil like the indigenous population of North, Central and South America who are now in refugee camps similar to the Reservations.

  27. Dr James Dickie on December 4th, 2009 6:52 pm

    comment alrady submitted. See above.

  28. Ian on December 4th, 2009 9:31 pm

    Arthur or James: Do either of you think the “Jews” (Hebrews) are related to Hyksos (Shepherd Kings) who ruled Egypt for a time ?

    Regards

    Ian

  29. Arthur on December 5th, 2009 3:32 am

    Ian,

    History is written by the victors. 3000 years ago history, myth, and religion were all blurred with little clear distinction. There is some supporting archeological and linguistic evidence to substantiate the claims that the Hyksos were Semite speaking invaders with warfare technology from Mesopotamia. It follows that at least some of these Semites were Hebrews or did become Hebrews, and later what we call Sephardic Jews.

    However to give you a well known example of the blurred line between religion and history, The Ten Commandments were supposedly given to Moses by God, but they are remarkably similar to the much older Hammurabi’s Code. Hammurabi ruled Babylon from 1792 to 1750 B.C. Moses was the leader of the Hebrews in the thirteenth century BC, over 400 years after the death of Hammurabi. The most famous aspect of Hammurabi’s Code is its reliance on laws of retaliation (“lex talionis”). Hammurabi’s law stated that “If a man has put out the eye of a free man, they shall put out his eye . . . ”

    Similarly, the Hebrew laws summarize Hammurabi when they stated that if someone harms another, “then you shall give life for life, eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, burn for burn, wound for wound, strike for strike.”

  30. Arthur on December 5th, 2009 4:49 am

    ■Dr James Dickie

    We agree in principal, but modern day Palestinians are only slightly related to the real Jews (Sephardi). However today’s Palestinians are much more closely related by blood (and DNA) to the real Jews than are the Ashkenazi tribe. In a recent sampling of the Palestinian gene pool, the test subjects had about 15% common DNA markers with the real Jews (Sephardi). The Ashkenazi in contrast, have substantially less than 1% common DNA markers with the real Jews (Sephardi). Modern science proves the fact that we already knew from history. The Ashkenazi are NOT related to the Biblical Jews.

    All across America most Christian preachers are leading their congregations to support “Israel” because they are “The Chosen.” The Ashkenazi descended from converts, as is well documented. Using this Christian “logic” (and I use the term loosely) anyone can become “The Chosen” by converting to Judaism.

  31. Ian on December 6th, 2009 9:49 am

    Arthur,

    Thank you,I appreciate your input. I know such questions are at best a difficult proposition. I’m relatively new to the “Jewish question” and am attempting to sort through this convolution.

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