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Mishko and Dietrich, 10/23/2009

October 24, 2009

This Week in Disorganized America, with special guest Alex Kurtagic:

  • Nick Griffin’s BBC appearance.  You can see Kurtagic’s article here when it posts.
  • Lack of ‘respec’ causes chimpout at “historically black” “college” (read the comments)
  • Madoff spent ill-gotten gains on sex, cocaine
  • And much more…

We would like to thank Alex again for joining us and mention to you that he is the author of the fiction novel, “Mister.”  See his website for more info.

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20 Responses to “Mishko and Dietrich, 10/23/2009”

  1. charles ellis on October 24th, 2009 3:52 am

    Your guys are the greatest. Dietrich really reminds me of Dr Pierce.

    I think you are being a little hard on Mr Griffin. Remember, this is his baptism of fire with the “really big boys”, scum bags that have spent their entire lives lying, cheating, stealing, and verbally assassinating people. No matter what Mr Griffin would have said they would have jumped on him. They were clearly trying to provoke him in to saying something “intemperate” . The holohoax was a rather transparent attempt to get him to say something that would be illegal in the EU which would obviously end his MEP status.
    Mr Griffin’s strategy seemed pretty obvious to me. I think Muhammad Ali called it “Rope-A-Dope” . He allowed the hacks on the panel and the hostile audience to gang up on him in a typical jewish/non-white manner while he calmly waited to speak during the few times they weren’t yelling at him. He went out of his way to try to be civil and gentlemanly to the wacky mulatto woman sitting next to him in spite of her incredibly childish behavior.
    Remember, 8 million people were watching. Most of whom were just curious but not “politically sophisticated”. They wouldn’t pick up on the twisted word games the hacks were trying to play on Mr Griffin, but they will remember the grossly unsportsmanlike behavior of the politicos and the multi-culti audience.
    But best of all, when Mr Griffin did get to speak at length, he stayed on target with his commentaries on immigration, Islam, homo-sex-ed in grammar school, indigenous British people ( I’m sure the affirmative action history “professor” made a big impression on the 8 million normal British people watching her) , and best of all Jack Straw’s treasonous father. The look on straw’s face was priceless.
    Mr Griffin may have been far from perfect, but considering what he was up against, I am very surprised that he did as well as he did.

  2. admin on October 24th, 2009 11:11 am

    Charles makes good points here, but remember that at least for my remarks, I constantly tempered them with similar points.

    Matter of fact, here is at least one indication from a leftist blogger that the general reaction may have *gasp* given the BNP a legitimate grievance:

    http://www.opendemocracy.net/blog/ourkingdom/anthony-barnett/2009/10/23/bbc-bnp-after-the-programme

    This kind of “overshoot” sound exactly like what you’re getting at here: Let them look like asses, then hope people notice.

    The trick is somehow balancing that with coming off as a leader by not appearing weak, and never being forced into defending yourself when you could be pushing forward.

    I think we got in a good example when we talked about how the black audience member’s comment that the BNP/Whites in general should go to the South Pole: “All indications are that we would build a nice, livable society, and once you’ve finished destroying what we left behind, you’d be down there insisting that you too have every right to be at the South Pole.”

  3. Luke on October 24th, 2009 11:36 am

    “charles ellis on October 24th, 2009 3:52 am

    Your guys are the greatest. Dietrich really reminds me of Dr Pierce.”

    Hey Charlie. Whatever you’ve been smoking lately, its driving you out of your mind – so you’d best cut back on it.

    Pierce never once opened his weekly shows by foisting Negro-Wigger-hip-hop obnoxious musical crap on his listeners, and that is exactly what Dietrich insists on doing. And that’s not all; Dietrich takes some sort of sick, twisted delight in this disgusting theme song because he knows it grates on the nerves of healthier white nationalist listeners – and he’ll drop a snide remark or two, every now and then, to prove this point.

    Hence, for all of Dietrich’s otherwise intellectual sounding arguments in favor of our white cause, he is no Dr. Pierce and I doubt that Pierce would have approved of his musical tastes.

    Instead of shaming white men out of being wiggers, as Pierce used to try to do, Dietrich tries to recruit wiggers by offering them their fix of ghetto jive.

  4. S. Mordechai Bagelbaum on October 24th, 2009 12:27 pm

    I look at my stool to predict the future, and it’s telling me that VOR is going under! Goyim pigs!

  5. Kievsky on October 24th, 2009 2:16 pm

    Best. Show. Ever.

    That was great that you are were able to get Alex Kurtagic to give the local blow-by-blow on what’s going on with the BNP.

    This is really the big story of the year. The BNP are the pioneers of the global White awakening, and Nick Griffin is the champion riding out into the field, up against the vicious scum that hate us, and Griffin is showing us all what kind of people they really are.

    The BBC panel and audience was the Searchlight constituency — a bunch of filthy rats and roaches that thought they were “exposing” Nick Griffin, when it was they themselves that were the ones that are shocking and disgusting and full of hate.

  6. Kievsky on October 24th, 2009 2:41 pm

    Luke,

    “United States of Whatever” isn’t hip-hop. It’s more like comedy, and it is representative of Dietrich’s generation.

    If I may attempt an interpretation, Dietrich’s generation is one that has been aggressively indoctrinated and marketed to and sold down the river.

    Like Dr. Ellis, I have noticed parallels to Dietrich and Dr. Pierce but didn’t mention it before. But yeah, I drew that parallel about a year ago.

  7. Akira on October 24th, 2009 3:27 pm

    Sorry to repeat some comments from the BNP video thread.

    Britain is pathetic. The alleged voice of the native people is uncritical of the Fascist Jew-state. [His only actual Fascist expression here.] I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s MI-5/6.

    How pathetic that Christians are expected to take sides between Satanic Muslims and Satanic Jews.

    The Muslim Baroness is married to a Muslim tool who has another Muslim wife. Today’s Britain.

    Jack Straw’s attempt to deflect criticism of Labour by invoking Enoch backfired: he says that Enoch Powell arranged immigration for Caribbean health-personnel. That just confirms that Powell was not racist — he favoured sensible immigration.

    Simon Darby, the BNP’s 2nd in command, is much smarter and more charing than Griffin. They’d do much better under him.
    Search “Simon Darby” on YouTube for some radio interviews.

    This non-debate with Wayman Bennett is hilariously stupid:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rTFbBhKo6tE

    [4 parts]

    Re: “He went out of his way to try to be civil and gentlemanly to the wacky mulatto woman sitting next to him in spite of her incredibly childish behavior.”

    Griffin looks weak (and creepy) when he patronizes that ugly Yankee Negress who just insults him. When she told him “you can’t say … blah blah blah” [re KKK], he should have said, “In Britain we used to have a tradition of free speech.”

    Even though the court order that the BNP must change its membership requirement is bogus, it might be a blessing in disguise. Admitting only “caucasians” has done no good politically (and they are supposed to be a political party).

    They’d be better off just requiring that all members pledge to “uphold traditional British values” or whatever, and to limit/halt immigration, and respect the status of the “traditional Britons” or something like that, and keep the “race”/cultural issue as a non-political social movement.

    The fact is that they will never achieve any significant electoral success without non-white support. That’s just the way it is in Britain.

    Anyway, I think as long as they aren’t Christian they have no hope in Hell. Just like Geert Wilders. Wilders talks about:

    “Our liberal values! Our Christian heritage (of course I’m an atheist). I love Israel! The Enlightenment! Blah, blah, blah.”

    Surely the BNP would be more popular if they said Britons should stop taking sides between Jews & Muslims, Sunni & Shiite, Religious Jews & Godless Khazars, etc.

    Also, all the talk about Churchill was nauseating.

    1. Churchill wrote articles from Italy about how much he admired Fascists. Griffin should have shown up with them.

    2. Churchill wrote about how the Jews had the Russians by the hair after the Jewish revolution in Russia.

    3. Churchill was an evil bastard, owned by Jews, a sick Masonic twist and Chief Druid of Britain, a military disaster, a drunk, a war criminal.

    4. Churchill was one of the main promoters of European Union [however, he envisioned the world divided between the Internazi Powers: Britain, Europe, the USSR, and America.

    Of course to begin to try to explain the truth about “Winny” to these brain-washed morons who populate Britain would have been virtually impossible…

  8. Akira on October 24th, 2009 3:31 pm

    Re: “the general reaction may have *gasp* given the BNP a legitimate grievance:”

    For example, when a questioner referred to Griffin’s “sliminess”, and the moderator didn’t ask him to apologize for the insult or just cut off the questioner.

  9. Steve on October 24th, 2009 8:26 pm

    Great show my brothers!

    @ Luke: Hip Hop? What century where YOU born in? lol

    What was “cool” in your day, banging two rocks together while dancing wildly around a fire? Was fire even discovered? lol

    I have to concur with the William Pierce comparison though. I like Dietrich but there is no similarity. Each broadcast of Pierce is like a learning lesson, a mini documentary delivered in a concise and scholarly dialog. Dietrich and Mishko just add White nationalistic rhetoric to the current events, and entertainingly so.

    I await any snappy retort. ;)

  10. Frosty on October 25th, 2009 2:46 am

    Great episode – thanks for your efforts, brothers.

  11. admin on October 25th, 2009 3:45 am

    “Luke”

    “Pierce never once opened his weekly shows by foisting Negro-Wigger-hip-hop obnoxious musical crap on his listeners, and that is exactly what Dietrich insists on doing.”

    Anyone who reaches far enough for an argument by calling the opening song “hip-hop” has something a little loose in his process. Whatever your opinion of it, the notion that it fits anywhere in the category of “hip-hop” is absurd and frankly, it gives you away.

    The opening muzak to Pierce’s ADVs was church music. We’re not doing church music, Luke. For all of the greatness of the ADVs, they could have used some of the production values in the wrapper–something, anything north of church music.

    “And that’s not all; Dietrich takes some sort of sick, twisted delight in this disgusting theme song because he knows it grates on the nerves of healthier white nationalist listeners – and he’ll drop a snide remark or two, every now and then, to prove this point.”

    The show obviously isn’t for you. Why continue to abuse yourself?

    “Instead of shaming white men out of being wiggers, as Pierce used to try to do, Dietrich tries to recruit wiggers by offering them their fix of ghetto jive.”

    Pierce was of a different generation, speaking (when/if he was) to a younger one. I am in that younger generation’s peer group. Are you not up to understanding that an elder like Pierce and a peer like myself can and must address young Whites differently? Pierce was able to tell them with some authority what wiggerism led to because he knew a time before it and had been around long enough to see its antecedents. I, being of the same generation, cannot pull off an “older and wiser” angle because I’m not.

    I can, however, laugh at them. And you.

    “. . . hip-hop . . .”

    Whatever.

  12. Gibson on October 25th, 2009 10:56 am

    You can download the BBC Question Time show as an avi file from http://www.megaupload.com/?d=KTYPID8B

  13. Steve on October 25th, 2009 4:23 pm

    @ Gibson

    Thank you! This seems to be a decent copy. :)

  14. charles ellis on October 25th, 2009 7:53 pm

    Dietrich: I agree with you that defending yourself from a hostile attack is a waste of time. People who agree with you know it’s not true and the people who don’t agree with you don’t care if it’s not true.
    The best tactic / strategy is to continue your own attack.
    As Musashi would say, if your enemy strikes at your body, strike at their head.

    You, the Rabbe, and Mr Kurtagic did a good job of analyzing Mr Griffin’s strengths and weaknesses in your after action report. Even better was your scathing critique of the utter hypocrisy of the leftist running dogs.
    And good news for the educationally challenged blacks in the audience: White people have already moved to the South Pole and are already building a nice civilized society. A friend of mine just got back from 9 months at Mcmurdo Station.

    http://www.whoi.edu/cms/images/PD3-8_58810.jpg
    Dang, they aren’t even multi-cultural !

    http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.gdargaud.net/Antarctica/MapSatellite/AntarcticStationsMap.gif&imgrefurl=http://www.gdargaud.net/Antarctica/InfoAntarctica.html&h=589&w=580&sz=42&tbnid=Vc0TXMwYfDL3uM:&tbnh=135&tbnw=133&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dantarctic%2Bstations&usg=__GUPK95d8Pl91dXlofiwvuduzkLI=&ei=Dc_kSt_dOY-gsgO-5bywBA&sa=X&oi=image_result&resnum=5&ct=image&ved=0CBkQ9QEwBA

    I am still puzzled by all the criticism ( as opposed to critique ) of Mr Griffin by white nationalists I met in Europe during the Election and now here after the BBC lovefest.
    While I might have my own opinions about personal debating styles and about Party Platforms, since I myself haven’t led a fringe political Party to national prominence or been asked to debate our enemies on national TV , nor been elected to the European Parliament on a de facto White Nationalist Platform, I fined it very difficult to criticize Mr Griffin.
    Of course, if Mr Griffin does happen to take a fall, I’m sure the current pack of jackals will feel thoroughly vindicated.

    Whatever,
    Charlie

  15. SpeedRacer on October 27th, 2009 12:03 am

    Looks like a “Stabbing” at David Irving’s speech in Miami, FL — MASSIVE JEW NEWS BLACKOUT ON IT

    ———-
    http://www.wptv.com/content/news/centralpbc/story/Altercation-leads-to-stabbing-in-Manalapan/7thDa0Dq9kC0gptR4vhrBQ.cspx

    ———- The don’t even name Irving as the speaker —-

    Stabbing outside Ritz-Carlton in Manalapan occurs during protest of controversial speaker

    MANALAPAN – Police are investigating a stabbing near the Ritz-Carlton five-star resort in Manalapan at 100 S. Ocean Blvd., according to WPTV.

    According to Fire-Rescue officials, two people were taken to the hospital, including one who was seriously injured with stab wounds and airlifted to Delray Beach Trauma Center.

    Protestors said they were there to speak out against the controversial author David Irving, who was reported to be hosting an event inside Ritz-Carlton Monday evening.

    A Ritz-Carlton spokeswoman would only say that there was an event being held in a conference hall when an incident occurred outside of the resort just after 9 p.m.

    Fire-Rescue confirmed the stabbing victim was found in front of the Ritz-Carlton Resort, the second patient was located off the grounds of the Ritz-Carlton across Ocean Boulevard.

    It is unknown if the altercation between the two were related to the protesters at the event.

    http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/palm-beach/sfl-stabbing-ritzcarlton-p102609,0,6733228.story

    More whines:
    http://www.nydailynews.com/ny_local/brooklyn/2009/10/21/2009-10-21_lifes_less_rewarding_for_denier_of_the_holocaust_thanks_to_pol.html

  16. SpeedRacer on October 27th, 2009 12:18 am

    ALM BEACH, FL — Palm Beach Police say 67-year-old Jeffry M. Picower has been prounced dead at Good Samaritan Hospital after they say he was found unconscious in his pool Sunday afternoon.

    Fire-rescue officials said the wife and maid called 911 dispatchers. The wife stated that her husband was at the bottom of the pool.

    The location of is an estate located at 1410 S. Ocean Blvd in Palm Beach.

    Palm Beach Police say that it is standard operating procedure in any drowning, that an investigation be conducted into Mr. Picower’s death.

    Jeffry M. Picower was a client of Bernie Madoff.

    Picower is alleged to have taken in $5.1 billion as a result of fraudulent returns from Madoff accounts.
    Billionaire Jeffry Picower drowns at his Palm Beach home

    Picower is a noted philanthropist and successful investor. His foundation was closed he once quoted after falling victim to Bernie Madoff’s ponzi scheme.

    Police noted residence has been secured and detectives remain on the scene at this time.

    http://www.wptv.com/mostpopular/story/Near-drowning-at-billionaire-Jeffrey-Picowers-
    man/yV8I0K0VlkKFh9oHib3q_A.cspx

    Jeffry M. Picower is alleged to have taken in $5.1 billion as a result of fraudulent returns from Madoff accounts

  17. Bill on October 29th, 2009 8:01 pm

    Did you hear about the synagogue shooting in LA? It was a black guy that did it!

  18. SpeedRacer on October 30th, 2009 11:47 pm

    Is America on the Verge of Another Bank War?
    Should we end the Fed or Goldman Sachs?

    http://www.martinarmstrong.org/files/Is-America-On-The-Verge-Of-Another-Bank-War-Should-We-End-The-Fed-Or-Goldman-Sachs.pdf

  19. SpeedRacer on October 30th, 2009 11:49 pm

    http://jessescrossroadscafe.blogspot.com/2009/10/brilliant-warning-on-robert-rubins.html

    A Brilliant Warning On Robert Rubin’s Proposal to Deregulate Banks, circa 1995

    Out all day on university visits with my son, returned to see the miracle GDP recovery number bull the market higher, after Goldman Sachs had cast a pall of gloom the prior day. Le Proprietaire had investments that leaned towards smelling bear trap, and was gratified to see the gains, especially after a day reviewing prospective tuition and fees.

    There is little doubt in this mind that the number will be revised lower, and the chain deflator lowball will prove to be transitory, and the recovery will be ephemeral, at least based on real numbers. The Clunkers programs pulled sales forward, which is a useful thing only if there is the follow up of systemic reform. The consumer is flat on their back, and median wages and employment are going nowhere. One can stoke monetary inflation with enough Fed expansion, but without the vitality that bestows permanence and self-sufficiency.

    A reader sent in this prescient warning from 1995, when then Treasury Secretary Robert Rubin, late of Goldman Sachs, mentor to Larry and Timmy of the current US ship of state, wanted to unleash the power of the big money center banks to ensure their “efficiency and international competitiveness.”

    If only the US had rejected the Rubin – Greenspan doctrine then, and firmly said no to freewheeling finance, and not succumbed to the hundreds of millions of dollars in lobbying and donations spread about Washington in that 1990′s campaign by Wall Street that culminated in Fed preemptive action, followed by a massive lobbying campaign led by Sandy Weill.

  20. 2040 on November 1st, 2009 4:28 pm

    Mishko, stop saying “quite frankly” and “honestly”. You sound like a real Rabbi.

    Overall, a great analysis of the BNP on question time.

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