The Sunic Journal: Interview with Harold Covington

October 20, 2009

Dr. Tom Sunic and author Harold Covington discuss the novels of Mr. Covington, comparative literature, and more.

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14 Responses to “The Sunic Journal: Interview with Harold Covington”

  1. carolyn kahant on October 21st, 2009 4:13 pm

    Thanks for having Covington on. I’ve never been able to grasp just why he is so hated by so many on the right. He always SOUNDS good, but so many say he’s deceitful and devisive. I look forward to another program with him.

  2. whodareswings on October 22nd, 2009 6:07 pm

    Please interview Marko P. of the most excellent Croatian rock band THOMPSON Tell us what happened on the USA tour when the Jews tried to get the Catholic church where the band was playing to cancel their show.

    No more Laibach mind games. THOMPSON rules!

  3. whodareswings on October 22nd, 2009 7:10 pm


    “Za Dom S-p-r-e-m-n-i”

    BTW The H. A. Covington interview was very good. It’s nice to see him taken seriously as a literary visionary.

  4. Stacey on October 23rd, 2009 8:52 pm

    I loved this interview. His books are phenomenal and so is he. Show your support for HAC by buying and recommending his books especially his Northwest Quartet. Thank God we have people like him standing up for us. Now we have to do OUR part!!!!

  5. Ba Racknophobe on October 24th, 2009 4:48 am

    Here’s a novel an revolutionary idea for Sunic; How about, when interviewing someone, letting the OTHER guy do some talking?

    Some sort of tranquilizer pills, taken by Sunic one hour before the interview, might help realize such an effect.

    And if being a “White Nationalist” is OK, why is being a “Petty Nationalist” so not OK? Is this perception in some way parallel to the equipment requirements for male actors in the porn industry? Big is good, small is not good. But then again, we could designate the Politically Correct crowd as “Species Nationalists”. And that’s not good. Which would of course translate to “Biggest” in porn parlance.

    Some people think and think and think and finally come up with… nothing. Maybe the old Prussian military saying is right; Leave the thinking to the horses, they have bigger heads.

  6. Akira on October 24th, 2009 4:06 pm

    Speaking of authors:

    Excerpts from David Irving’s Banged Up: Survival as a Political Prisoner in 21st Century Europe


    Human memory is like an onion, I have decided. Once you have peeled off one skin and written down what you find, you realize the next time you look that there was another layer of forgotten memories just beneath.

    I was lying awake one night in my two-foot-wide cot, alone in Cell 19, in “C” Block in the notorious “Landl”— the grim Josefstadt prison, built in the center of Vienna in 1839. I was listening to the dim sounds of the Hausarbeiter (“trusties”) cleaning the tiled corridor on the other side of the six-inch thick strongroom-type door separating me from the outside world, and I found that I had suddenly recalled the next tranche of names in my first class list at Brentwood School, nearly sixty years before.

    Round the final corner I speeded up again, walking briskly in the middle of the street, not visibly aiming for anything. I pressed the remote, and heard the soft answering clunk of the car doors unlocking. I ripped open the front right hand door and dropped into the seat, and locked the door. The goon was ninety yards away, and he had begun to trot. Supposing he took out a gun?

    My hands reached for the steering column—but the wheel wasn’t there. It was not a British car. It was Swiss. I was on the wrong side. Jeez, you’re getting senile….

    An Israeli newspaperman later learned from his contacts that a senior, older, member of the “Olympia” had tipped off the police—a dueling offense if ever there was one.

    I was on the run from their secret police, and this was Vienna. It was not a happy moment.

    On the second or third day several officers knocked on my cell door (yes, they knocked on a cell door), unlocked it, and brought in my books from their homes for me to autograph. I have sold probably two million books in Germany and Austria, including 67,000 hardback copies of Rommel (Hoffmann & Campe) alone; it was serialised in Der Spiegel for five weeks.

    Several of my books were in the prison library—I remember seeing the German editions of my Hitler biography Hitler’s War (Herbig Verlag), and The Destruction of Convoy PQ.17 (Bertelsmann). On the third or fourth day a delegation of half a dozen senior officers brought in all four of the prison’s copies of books written by me and invited me to sign them too.

    The justice system was less accommodating. My requests to speak to a lawyer or to Bente in London were fruitless. Six weeks or more would pass before I could phone my family from Vienna. The illegality of this was obvious.

    I remained philosophical. It was much harder on Bente. In London, they feared I was dead; when I did not return from Vienna on time, she and her friends phoned the embassies, the police, the hospitals, the mortuaries, the car hire firms; but nobody knew what had happened to me.

    Unable to contact me to access bank accounts or use key system-passwords, she lost our home and possessions. Nacht und Nebel was the system, as invented by Reinhard Heydrich and his police. One vanished, as though in Night and Fog.

    Three times a day the slit in the cell door was slid open, and five slices of brown rye bread were stacked onto a plate; nothing else. A bowl of soup came at midday, together with a mug of pink fruit-tea which—being an Englishman—I sluiced straight down the toilet. I did not trust the tap-water enough to drink it, but I was still violently sick.

    My initial room-mate, a Romanian telephone-thief—now I knew why it had taken so long to find a working telephone in Vienna on the morning I arrived—was in a poor psychiatric state. He begged me in Spanish to write a letter in German, warning that he was contemplating suicide, and he was not joking.


    David Irving speaking tour:

    2009.10.21 @ 6 pm: Jackson, Mississippi

    2009.10.22 @ 7 pm: Montgomery, Alabama

    2009.10.23 @ 7 pm: Atlanta

    2009.10.24 @ 7 pm: Jacksonville, Florida

    2009.10.25 @ 7 pm: Orlando

    2009.10.26 @ 3 pm: Melbourne, Florida [w luncheon]

    2009.10.26 @ 7 pm: West Palm Beach

    2009.11.02 @ 7 pm: Clearwater

    2009.11.04 @ 7 pm: Charleston, SC

    2009.11.05 @ 7 pm: Columbia, SC

    2009.11.06 @ 7 pm: Charlotte NC

    2009.11.07 @ 3 pm: Raleigh NC

    2009.11.08 @ 7 pm: Richmond, Virginia

    2009.11.09 @ 7 pm: Washington DC

    2009.11.11 @ 7 pm: Baltimore

    2009.11.12 @ 7 pm: Philadelphia

    2009.11.13 @ 7 pm: New Jersey

    2009.11.14 @ 7 pm: New York

    2009.11.15 @ 7 pm: New Haven, CT

    2009.11.18 @ 7 pm: Manchester, NH

    2009.11.21 @ 3 pm: Niagara Falls, NY

    2009.11.22 @ 3 pm: Indianapolis

    2009.11.23 @ 7 pm: Chicago

    This talk is about Hitler’s favorite field marshal, Rommel: Was he a traitor, or not?

  7. carolyn on October 24th, 2009 4:38 pm


    I fail to understand what these quotes from David Irving have to do with the subject at hand.

    Furthermore, the only quote from this historian that matters to me now is this one which I just read, in response to his being cut off from collecting book payments by American Express. He said:

    “Please do not refer to me as a Holocaust denier,” an indignant Irving told the Daily News. “I make it clear the Nazis killed at least 3 million Jews.”

    For saying this, I could care less whether anyone attends his book promotions or not. David Irving is the traitor! I also don’t think Rommel was Hitler’s favorite Field Marshal.

    At least Tom Sunic, for all that he does talk too much himself (I agree with that advice, Racknophobe), taking up too much of his guest’s time …. at least he knows what he’s talking about when it comes to the history of the time.

  8. Akira on October 24th, 2009 4:47 pm

    You’re funny.

    Re: “I fail to understand what these quotes from David Irving have to do with the subject at hand.”

    You’re right.

    You fail.

    The point is people going to jail for what they believe.

    Also censorship, and making it difficult to access books, which is discussed in the Sunic-Covington interview.

    Re: ““Please do not refer to me as a Holocaust denier”

    He says the term is bogus, and “The Holocaust” is a brand name like Kotex.

    Why don’t you give your full name and go to Austria and say “the Holocaust is a joke, Heil Hitler” then, when you’re jailed for your opinion, then I’ll take your screeds more seriously.

    Yeah, I’m sure you know more bout WW2 than David Irving does.

  9. Herman King on October 30th, 2009 3:27 pm

    Jew publications like the NY Times praised Irving as an historian until he lost the Lipstadt trial.

  10. Akira on October 30th, 2009 7:43 pm

    They had to praise him because he is a great historian.

    After Lipstadt and jail in Internazi Austria they had “discredited” him enough to drop the mask.

  11. Akira on October 30th, 2009 7:45 pm

    BTW, I don’t recall the NYT ever praising Irving. Many other papers did, because it’s impossible to read his books without being impressed by his writing and research.

  12. Stacey on October 30th, 2009 9:58 pm

    I will be at the Irving lecture in Chicago on the 23r.

  13. Mark on November 3rd, 2009 7:19 am

    The reason Tom talks more than your average interviewer is because he’s actually a scholar and has something intelligent to say. Most TV hosts and interviewers are entertainers, not intellectuals.

    Covington comes across as arrogant and condescending. It’s not a smart move to insult the people you’re trying to appeal to.

    Covington is basically applying liberal egalitarianism to whites only. He denounces older racial studies and physical anthropology, the same as Jews and leftists. So what he’s basing his racialism on is curious.

  14. John from Sweden on April 13th, 2010 6:43 am

    Dear Mr Sunic,

    could you please try not to talk so much? The interviewee is the main point of an interview, not the interviewer.

    This was the first show of yours that I listened to, and I’m not really sure I’ll come back.