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Mishko and Dietrich, 6/26/2009

June 26, 2009

This Week in Disorganized America:

  • A discussion of HR2454 and what it means to you
  • Very short discussion of a dead child “liker”
  • Africa at it again
  • The future of the White race
  • And much more…

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28 Responses to “Mishko and Dietrich, 6/26/2009”

  1. George Orwell on June 29th, 2009 10:36 pm

    About time, this show was awesome, and I’ve been wanting to share it with friends, so belated thanks….

  2. Ivan on June 30th, 2009 9:19 pm

    ruling elite do not care what folks what, democracy is a propaganda word to mislead sheeple same like socialism and communism.

  3. Joliet Johnny on July 1st, 2009 4:04 am

    Im really starting to wonder what news could be reported if it wasn’t clogged with michael jackson and other entertainers dieing. So glad that Madoff got 150 years(that slipped through) Im willing to make a bet. $100 to VOR says he gets let go before he dies in prison. If someone takes the bet and he dies in prison I will give $100 to VOR.

  4. National-liberal on July 3rd, 2009 2:58 pm

    I can’t see why we are supposed to be interested in some politician’s personal affairs, women he hangs out with and stuff like that. This sort of thing shouldn’t be given any attention at all in our discourse. Because it harms the white cause. A lot of white people don’t buy this crap about “family values” and traditionalism. You scare off a great many free-thinking white people.
    Screw family values.

  5. Andrew on July 3rd, 2009 3:05 pm

    From November 2005:

    Pop star Michael Jackson was caught on tape making anti-Semitic remarks, calling Jews “leeches.”

    JACKSON: They suck – they’re like leeches. I’m so tired of it. They start out the most popular person in the world, make a lot of money, big house, cars, and everything, end up with, penniless. It is conspiracy. The Jews do it on purpose

    Full Story:

    http://newsbusters.org/node/2963

  6. ZeroIn on July 3rd, 2009 11:28 pm
  7. Anti on July 4th, 2009 1:42 pm

    “I can’t see why we are supposed to be interested in some politician’s personal affairs, women he hangs out with and stuff like that. This sort of thing shouldn’t be given any attention at all in our discourse. Because it harms the white cause. A lot of white people don’t buy this crap about “family values” and traditionalism. You scare off a great many free-thinking white people.”

    I agree that we shouldn’t care about politician’s personal affairs. This sort of commentary is shallow and achieves nothing.

    However if you’re not willing to stand up for family values and traditionalism, then what are you?

    You’re just another liberal pragmatist.

    Also, National[ist] Liberal seems most likely to be an oxymoron.

  8. bcb1488 on July 4th, 2009 11:25 pm

    I didn’t know where else to put this, but my wife & I went to one of the Tea Party’s today. I don’t really want people to know where I live, but I am pretty far north. A guy actually handed me an Alex Jones bumper sticker and started talking bad about those horrible zionist jews. That part I didn’t mind because him & I started tag teaming people and telling them how evil the jews really are. But my point is, there were 4 or 5 people that asked me if I’ve heard of Alex Jones. So of course I was like, ‘oh yea man. did you ever listen to the Voice of Reason Broadcast? I think they are awesome too!’ I am beside myself. How in the heck, I am trying to keep this clean, does a fat little, roly poly, Pilsbury Dough Boy, that is just a shield for the jew boys themselves that believe in Nazi death cults, how is he starting to get as popular as that koser pig Glenn Beck, on the hebrew fox channel? There are a lot of people waking up about the zionist pigs. I did put a good word in for the Voice of Reason Broadcast, but I just feel you guys talk 100% of the truth without being haters. I don’t know, I guess it is just a little frustrating, but something is starting to give way. Hopefully when the levy breaks, the will of God will be on our side.

  9. Nationalist Liberal on July 5th, 2009 1:36 pm

    The concept “liberal” is an inherently white civilizational concept. The problem is that it has been hijacked by the leftists to make it easier for them to push their agenda. True liberalism has nothing to do with the destruction of the borders, affirmative action and all the other insanity whites are being assailed with. Over many centuries civilized people have come to the understanding that it ‘s a bad thing to interfere into the neighbor’s personal affairs, disrespect his freedom as far as his private life is concerned. Women have also finally gotten some respect from the repressive society. And that is what I mean by liberalism. For us liberals the freedom of the individual trumps everything. And national liberalism puts at a premium free and happy life of white individuals.
    Conservatives are sucking the healthy pro-white discourse down into slimy traditionalist totalitarian filth. My advice to them: take your dirty hands off. Your time is over. Stop poisoning the pro-white movement with your obsolete bullshit.

  10. George Orwell on July 5th, 2009 9:06 pm

    bcb1488 I understand exactly how you feel. I messaged Mishko about this last night and his response was, “We don’t do this because we’ve got nothing better to do. We do this because we HAVE to do this for the future of our race. The AJ’s of the world have done a good job of getting people to think outside the box, and of those people there are a huge percentage of people that realize that AJ is a zionist puppet, and we just to be there to bend those people’s ears and educate them further down the rabbit hole.”

    Made good sense to me…

  11. Anti on July 6th, 2009 10:16 pm

    “The concept “liberal” is an inherently white civilizational concept.”

    It sure is, and that’s a Big Problem. That means we have a serious pathogen within indigenous race and civilisation.

    “The problem is that it has been hijacked by the leftists to make it easier for them to push their agenda”

    “Hijacked” by “leftists”, yeah sure. As if leftists and liberals are not in essence the same thing.

    “True liberalism has nothing to do with the destruction of the borders, affirmative action and all the other insanity whites are being assailed with.”

    No that’s exactly what it means or that’s exactly how it naturally evolves.

    “For us liberals the freedom of the individual trumps everything.”

    For example the freedom to have an abortion so the birth rate drops to critical so mass immigration must be used instead so the White race declines in Europe and America. See how liberalism and “freedom of the individualism” implodes? See why I’m not buying your rat poison?

    Stop being an apologist for the Anti-White Liberal Establishment.

    “Conservatives are sucking the healthy pro-white discourse down into slimy traditionalist totalitarian filth. My advice to them: take your dirty hands off. Your time is over. Stop poisoning the pro-white movement with your obsolete bullshit.”

    You are a leftist liberal red progressive.

    You speak just like an antifa the way you dismiss our ideas as “totalitarianism”.

  12. Anti on July 6th, 2009 10:17 pm

    ** serious pathogen indigenous to our race and civilisation **

  13. Anti on July 6th, 2009 10:22 pm

    So-called “Nationalist Liberal” is another one of these Ron Paulites who sees everything through the prism of “personal freedoms”, and believes if we just keep the Government out of everything and leave people to their private lives – all while ignoring the fundamental issues – then everything will be okay.

    Nationalist Liberal and the Ron Paul movement have the same agenda of co-opting people dissolutioned in the state of affairs, in the Republican Party, back into the flawed self-destructive liberal paradigm.

  14. Nationalist Liberal on July 7th, 2009 2:52 pm

    The issue of abortion and white birthrate has nothing whatsoever to do with the problem of non-white immigration. These are totally different issues. It’s like competing with rats invading the house who produces more offspring. Complete stupidity.

    That’s where the major flaw of the conservative mindset is revealed – traditionalists have a tendency to view people not as individual human beings who have certain inalienable rights and freedoms and constitute each and every one the ultimate value and whose happiness is the purpose for the existence of the society – but rather as cogs in the machine, expendable human resources to be exploited for the profits of the greedy CEOs and corporations. That’s why the argument about the alleged need to use mass immigration because of the low white birthrate is used. In that sense the viewpoint expressed above by “anti” is completely in sync with the corporate republican thinking patterns. Conservatives need a large pool of labour which they might use for maximum profit with minimum consideration for the well-being of the individual. Pro-white conservatives differ from aracial neocons in that they strive for the situation when there is a large white slave labour pool of higher quality rather than a mongrelized non-white muck-filled reservoir of incompetent serfs.

    No sane freedom-loving white individual would agree to live under such conditions and be treated this way. Those social transformations back in the 60-ies had as an underlying cause the just and healthy dissatisfaction of a huge number of people at tha state of social conditions and norms prevalent before those upheavals took place. The enemy saw this as an opportunity and directed this justified anger of the population at the traditional society’s repression into somewhat wrong channels which has also undermined a lot of things that were quite worthy of conserving.

    Anyway. Traditionalism has historically been defeated and exposed as a vile ideology that turns women into baby-making machines, destroys people’s individual freedoms, contributes to runaway population growth and so on and so forth. All these things are characteristic of non-white societies. Thus traditionalists want to impose upon the white people the non-white patterns and make whites live in non-white conditions. That in my opinion proves them to be the worst enemy of the White race.

    The heritage of Renaissance is stronger than that of the Dark Ages. It is the bathos of stupidity to promote white cause on the basis of dark-age constructs of oppression and tyranny.

  15. Nationalist Liberal on July 7th, 2009 3:07 pm

    By the way. How can the destruction of the borders be the natural outcome of liberal ideology. For true white liberals the concept of property is a sacred concept. And this concept includes above all the ownership of land by the people and the right to protect that land by all means necessary. Thus the mass-scale non-white invasion runs counter to the basic principles of true liberalism and can in no way be considered its inevitable result.

    This world is full of wicked people who get their kicks out of degrading women, dominating others, meddling with other people’s private affairs and making the lives of their neighbours around them a misery. I guess conservative ideology attracts individuals with these tendencies.

    Building a white society on the foundation of traditionalism is like erecting a beautiful gothic-style castle on a heap of cow manure.

  16. PP on July 7th, 2009 4:07 pm

    Anti, you said, ‘So-called “Nationalist Liberal” is another one of these Ron Paulites who sees everything through the prism of “personal freedoms”, and believes if we just keep the Government out of everything and leave people to their private lives – all while ignoring the fundamental issues – then everything will be okay.’

    I am of course not N.L., however I agree with much of his sentiments. Meanwhile, you seem more than a bit hostile to liberty. Freedom is what we need most in order to survive. If you on the other hand are proposing a strong, centralised state to rule over us and impose your vision on people than I consider that immoral and totalitarian. People need to be left alone and involuntary government kicked out of the picture. Real communities of like-minded and culturally-similar people could then begin reforming and governing their own affairs free from outside tyranny.

  17. Anti on July 7th, 2009 9:06 pm

    “This world is full of wicked people who get their kicks out of degrading women, dominating others, meddling with other people’s private affairs and making the lives of their neighbours around them a misery.”

    Take your liberal, pro-feminist rat poison elsewhere.

    Anyone with a logical brain is well beyond your libertarian sophistry and non-solutions.

  18. Anti on July 7th, 2009 9:34 pm

    I think we need a strong state and limit certain personal freedoms. Absolutely.

    Seriously in our current liberal system of “freedom” what exactly do we have going on? 95% of people deceived and managed by Jews, the media and trends instigated by them.

    The libertarian philosophy of leaving things to the sheeple (managed by Jews and liberal social controllers) is not a solution. Not in any White Nationalist sense, at least.

    “On the side of liberty” and “on the side of liberalism” are both pretty well the same thing. They have the same destructive ends. The former is just deceptive sophistry.

    Use some state intervention to arrest Jewish influence and anti-White demographic trends? Why the hell not!

    This philosophy of “you can’t use the State to achieve things” is Jewish-implanted trash. Did you know that four of the five biggest libertarian anti-State intellectuals are Jews?

    Jews are paranoid about the State because they recall a time when they were persecuted by strong sensible White States in pogroms.

    Libertarianism is also an expression of the Jewish tendency not to integrate into White society, and always see themselves as separate detached “individuals”.

    And if someone says my prescribed solutions are “totalitarian and immoral” I frankly don’t care (and that someone sounds leftist).

  19. Anti on July 7th, 2009 9:42 pm

    “The heritage of Renaissance is stronger than that of the Dark Ages. It is the bathos of stupidity to promote white cause on the basis of dark-age constructs of oppression and tyranny.”

    It’s all very nice to wax poetic, but the liberal society you dream of already exists. Its ill effects are manifest. Low birth rates, mass immigration, degenerate culture, miscegenation, with the ultimate result of it all of course being the destruction of the White race itself.

    Quit whining of oppression and tyrants, you people are in control now. You and Jews.

    How you can defend the patently self-destructive heap of junk that is liberal society, I do not know.

  20. Anti on July 7th, 2009 9:48 pm

    That’s where the major flaw of the conservative mindset is revealed – traditionalists have a tendency to view people not as individual human beings who have certain inalienable rights and freedoms and constitute each and every one the ultimate value and whose happiness is the purpose for the existence of the society – but rather as cogs in the machine”

    Our struggle is inherently a collective one, and yes, I tend to view things in collective terms. Yes I do tend to see people in terms of “society” rather than as detached individuals.

    Seeing people as “detached individuals” as you do naturally lends itself to the negation of racial causes. To the negation of the very White Nationalist cause.

    And by the way, “universal inalienable rights” are very very easily extended to hostile groups such as Jews.

    That’s one reason why the rights paradigm is bunk.

  21. Anti on July 7th, 2009 9:57 pm

    http://www.vanguardnewsnetwork.com/?p=2116

    “It wasn’t surprising to learn that the Jewish filmmaker Aaron Russo – who died a few days ago and whose death was mentioned by VNN – wasn’t merely a libertarian but was a libertarian activist who was once a presidential candidate. Why wasn’t it surprising? Because libertarianism is a Jewish movement posing as a freedom movement [1]. Libertarianism consists of conflicting, race-denying, individualistic ideas. It was designed to attract and brainwash certain gentiles who wouldn’t follow other political movements, such as the Jewish-led “liberal” a.k.a. “progressive” movement. Do you think it’s just a coincidence that people such as Ayn Rand, Murray Rothbard, Ludwig Von Mises, Milton Friedman, Robert Nozick, Frank Chodorov, Aaron Director, Julian Simon – i.e., most of the big names in the libertarian movement – were Jews? Even today, many of the top people in libertarianism are Jewish. The ones who aren’t Jewish simply don’t understand the nature of it. Sadly, libertarianism has crept into conservative circles, further Jewing an already-too-Jewed movement (i.e., “neoconservatism” and “Judeo-Christianity”). Libertarianism was created to prevent gentiles from thinking and acting in a collective manner. Like communism and feminism, it’s another Jewish “-ism.”"

    One commenter adds:

    “It’s all superficial and doesn’t address deeper issues.”

    That’s pretty well the problem I have with libtardian “Nationalist Liberal” too.

  22. Bob on July 7th, 2009 10:54 pm

    ANTI….

    … If you’re serious, become a Ghost Wolf!

    resist com

  23. Anti on July 7th, 2009 11:08 pm

    “The effect of liberty to individuals is that they may do what they please: we ought to see what it will please them to do, before we risk congratulations.”

    - Edmund Burke.

  24. PP on July 8th, 2009 8:01 am

    Well, I’m gone and won’t be back here. I can tell that many folks here are opposed to my natural, God-given rights inherent in my humanity. I was trying to have a decent and profanity-free talk with folks because I do agree with certain aspects of some things spoken on this network, but people seem mainly interested in forever talking about Jews. It’s always ‘the Jews’. That’s all I hear from respondents. That and the need to limit my liberties. That’s not the sort of people I want to be around who have nothing to say except ‘It’s the Jews’ fault’ while supporting a strong, central state that abuses people’s liberties.I realise that no everyone here is like that, but too many are. Goodbye.

  25. Listener on July 8th, 2009 8:48 am

    There is a difference between supporting a “strong central state that abuses powers”. And recognizing the reality that neither public (state) nor private (enterprises) interests can be allowed to run amok and do as they wish when it is not in the peoples collective democratic interest.

  26. Nationalist Liberal on July 8th, 2009 12:16 pm

    Anti’s reasoning is a typical example of black-or-white simplistic thinking when there are only two options offered from which to choose. All other possibilities are unavailable. That’s the way our enemies manage to get the upper hand. They float into the mainstream two ostensibly opposite, conflicting ideas either of which in fact benefits the enemy and is detrimental to the people. Ignorant public doesn’t know any better and gets split on the basis of the superficial veneer designed to mislead the ignorant. Whereas inherently these opposite viewpoints are actually the same.

    Incidentally, who is really in charge in America today? You declare it is liberals. Nothing can be farther from the truth. Painkiller use restrictions, looming gun confiscation, attacks on speech freedom, the existence of victimless crimes when innocent people are thrown in jail because some freak deems their actions “immoral” or “anti-social”, the crimes of the child protective agencies, virtual elimination of private property via real estate taxes which are an outrage, bussing of children, elimination of the freedom of association, corporate slavery and sweatshop economy(considering the great technological advances the work week might have been easily reduced to 20 hours a long time ago), promotion of torture by outlawing euthanasia, destruction of the environment via non-white invasion and corporate insanity, and so on. The list can take pages.

    It’s you, conservatives, who run things. And you have the gall to call this system liberal. Talk about chutzpah….LOL.

    By the way. William Pierce in one of his articles said that the ideal population for the US is somewhere around 50 million. So the issue at hand is not making more white babies but cleaning house.
    I would advise Anti to go to Iran or some other shithole where he can enjoy the wonders of traditionalist society.

  27. Nationalist Liberal on July 8th, 2009 12:44 pm

    Why can’t Anti see that I am particularly stressing the fact that my proposed ideology is national liberalism – not even classical liberalism. I view national liberalism as liberalism cleansed of its drawbacks with the additional understanding of the need to promote the interests of the white race and make sure white homelands are white again.

  28. Anti on July 8th, 2009 5:47 pm

    “It’s you, conservatives, who run things. And you have the gall to call this system liberal.

    And I supposed we have a right wing corporate media aswell? And George Bush was a fascist?

    Don’t be insane.

    Those anti-reality slurs go down great in a leftist blog, but they are still anti-reality slurs.

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