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Edgar Steele’s Nickel Rant: Second Annual State of the Revolution

March 18, 2009

In another of his outrageously gripping and entertaining Nickel Rants, Edgar Steele lays out the basis for his vision of an inevitable Second American Revolution. Like watching a train wreck in progress, one you can’t bear to watch, but can’t tear your eyes away from, listen as Edgar outlines:

  • Why a violent revolution in America now is inevitable.
  • How nationwide rioting will erupt, leading to an open race war.
  • De facto invasion by Mexico.
  • Why bailouts will bury us, not save us.
  • The wave of States’ Rights movements in America.
  • Exactly who killed America and “The Axis of Morons.”
  • How to protect yourself.

Here is a link to the on-line transcript: http://www.nickelrant.com/rants/090318rant.htm

15 MB / 32 kbps stereo / 1 hour 7 min.

Contact Ed: steele
conspiracypenpal.com

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71 Responses to “Edgar Steele’s Nickel Rant: Second Annual State of the Revolution”

  1. Nansye on March 18th, 2009 11:55 pm

    Love the Nickel Rant. I have been a fan of conspiracypenpal.com and Edgar Steele for a long time. Glad his radio show has found a home! Great show.

  2. RDB on March 19th, 2009 12:16 am


    The excoriation of Negroes, Hispanics, and Jews as such is not only repugnant but unsupportable. It’s the assumption of criminal intentions and guilt by classes, which is precisely the practice of the “Liberal” fascisti and the Republican pseudoconservatives against whom you correctly rail.

    At best, it sets your correct and accurate contentions subject to illogical emotional attack (“Look at the bigot! He can’t be right about the economic and political situation!”) because it *is* a weakness of illogic on your own part.

    Yes, many of the enemies of the U.S. Constitution are Hispanic and Negro and Jewish. They’re also Irish, Italian, German, Hungarian, French, Scandanavian, English, Welsh, Scottish, and generic WASP. You can’t tell the attackers by looking at their skin color or circumcision scars.

    I say this without anger, but only to keep you “on point” and effective. You have a helluva lot that’s sound and proper to say, but your ethnic prejudices – however well justified you may hold them to be – are not supported in your rants, and almost certainly impossible to support even with the greatest possible expenditure of effort.

  3. Jeremy on March 19th, 2009 1:24 am

    RDB, have you read his book? I don’t feel he’s heaping 100% of blame on any ethnicity/race, but I think he does a pretty good job of showing statistically how races are different (emotional responses, temperament, , IQ, etc) and that “racial” (noting differences in race) is not “racist” (saying just anyone is good or bad based purely on their race). For example, FBI/government crime statistics showing actual racial differences in violent crime are indeed THOUSANDS OF PERCENT different (I believe 40:1 in some cases) are hard to refute – even when these are adjusted for income, etc. His book and “rants” do not seem to preach hate for entire races as much as being aware their are a high proportional people from some racial stock that tent to behave certain ways and planning around that for you and your family’s safety is prudent. There are many more cases stated in his book and if you want to refute any of the facts from his book, it would be great to hear some specifics.

  4. BlueEyedDevil on March 19th, 2009 1:41 am

    You can boo hoo all you like about innocent minorities getting caught in the trap of hate, but they are not my family and don’t share my genes closely enough for me to give a rats about them.

  5. Ed in Texas on March 19th, 2009 9:10 am

    RDB,

    Please understand that it never alleviates a societal problem to attack the messenger. I put it to you this way:

    If you are White – and I’m having to assume that you are – you have more to fear in any given confrontation by a Black attacker than a White attacker at a ratio of 49-to-1. That’s a provable fact, pure and simple. Are you not going to take that into consideration when making preparations for the safety of yourself and your family? If you don’t then you would be remiss in your duties to yourself and them; especially in a time of societal anarchy.

    Additionally, if you just so happen to find yourself alone in a part of a community which is predominantly Black and you are singled out for attack (and don’t delude yourself – you would be), who is the most egregiously racist? You? Edgar Steele? Or the Black person(s) who attacks you?

    Don’t attack Ed Steele for having the testicular fortitude to define the obvious. You really should listen to him, regardless of your particular race, lest it be at your peril during a time of civil strife; which I’m sure we can all agree is nigh upon us.

  6. RDB on March 19th, 2009 12:46 pm


    Ed in Texas writes:

    “Don’t attack Ed Steele for having the testicular fortitude to define the obvious. You really should listen to him, regardless of your particular race….”

    I wrote without any intention of attacking Mr. Steele, and I’m aware of the crime statistics regarding Blacks. Damned nasty. From what I understand, even Blacks regard other Blacks as potential threats in street encounters. There is definitely a problem inherent in what has come to be called “Black culture” in America.

    This, however, had been true of a great many immigrant minority groups in America’s history – notably the Irish in the mid-19th Century – as well as the Italians after the great waves of migration from southern Italy in the late 19th Century.

    (( Little history lesson, sorry. In 1848, there were uprisings against empires and monarchies in Europe – France, the Germanies, the Austro-Hungarian Empire, even Switzerland. Italy wasn’t a country as such at that time, and the revolutionaries in Italy were mostly in the northern part of what would become that country, against the Austro-Hungarian Empire. In almost all cases [except Switzerland], the Good Guys lost, and thousands had to flee Europe. Many of them came to the U.S.A. Remember XI Corps of the North’s Army of the Potomac? Practically the whole damned thing was German, with German generals commanding brigades and divisions. Other regiments scattered throughout the North’s armed forces were German-speaking, and there were even regiments made up of immigrants from northern Italy. That was the first wave of Italian immigrants to America. A much larger wave came later in the 19th Century from *southern* Italy – the poorest, least educated, most looked-down-upon people. The well-established northern Italian immigrant community actually got the U.S. government to establish *two* immigration quotas. One for northern Italians, the other for the “moolie” southern Italians. But most Italian-Americans you meet today are descended from families in the southern provinces – Sicily and Apulia and the Campagnia, etc. ))

    The point of discussing these earlier waves of immigrants – and the Blacks in America’s major cities are an immigrant group, only having “come north” during and after World War II – is that we’ve seen this before.

    Think of “Irish Need Not Apply” and the many laws (the Sullivan Act is still in effect, violating the 2nd Amendment in New York the Damned) enacted specifically against “Wops.”

    Were those prejudices justified in the 19th and early 20th Centuries? If you look at major metropolitan crime statistics then as we’re looking at them now, yes.

    But now we’ve got Irish and Italian (and Japanese and Russian and Slovak and Polish and Lithuanian) ethnic groups pretty much “dissolved in the melting pot,” and they’re proving themselvs to be no more intinsically criminal than any other people dumb enough to vote Democrat or Republican.

    If the problem with Blacks at present is “obvious,” why bother to stress the definition? There are *Blacks* – Bill Cosby, Walter Williams, Thomas Sowell – who are doing this, and who should be supported, not denigrated in a bulk condemnation of everybody who traces his family tree into a slave auction in Charleston, SC.

    Mr. Steele’s strategic picture seems sound. His tactics are susceptible to counterattack, and reduce his effectiveness. I want to be able to quote some of the stuff he says and writes, and grind it into the “Liberal” muzzle good and hard, but Mr. Steele lays himself open to emotional counterblasts, and “Liberals” rely heavily on emotional nonsense to deny logical argument.

  7. Hibernian on March 19th, 2009 12:59 pm

    Those Irish, German and Italian immigrants were WHITE.

    No matter how well-behaved a black/mestizo is, they are not of our people. They never will be.

    That is the difference.

  8. Ed in Texas on March 19th, 2009 2:03 pm

    RDB,

    Your points are well reasoned and I am aware of and do understand the historical lessons involved here. My point is simply that I fail to see any “excoriation” of Blacks, Hispanics and Jews (well, other than those False-Jew elites – and rightly so – who are directly responsible for the state we find ourselves in at this point in time).

    No, I don’t see much reason for concern about Bill Cosby breaking down my door wielding an M-16. Frankly, I think the honorable Mr. Cosby (whom I respect greatly) should be concerned for his own welfare, which in my estimation will likely come from not only a White population out for racially-motivated vengeance, but also from a Black population envious of his status and disgruntled with his association with wealthy White people.

    The lessons of the past involving Germans, Italians, Irish and others are just that: from the past. The realities of the past was important then and what is a reality now is important now. The lessons should certainly be learned, but then can only be applied in modern terms.

    Mr. Steele is merely warning us all – regardless of race and culture – that we are about to find ourselves in a decidedly uncomfortable situation, with race merely being a part of what we should consider (very few others seem to be addressing this).

    These problems will only “begin” as economic woes, but will quickly degrade into an outright Armageddon of war from many fronts, one of them – a big one – coming from a racial perspective. He’s merely warning us all of yet another facet to the myriad problems inherent to any impending anarchy.

    We’ll all, regardless of race, creed or culture, have to face the prospect of facing a rogue government as well as the high probability of facing aggression from without, such as from Mexico, China and U.N. forces, for instance. I think we can all agree on that as well?

    I do feel this will all devolve to a truly base, evil level rather soon. It’s simply a sad outcome of the ensuing chaos. You, me and Mr. Steele may be appalled by the actions we will likely see from many sides of this equation, but we can only control ourselves, not the tens-of-millions of others who will be involved. I’m sure there will be countless atrocities committed by all sides; Whites inclusive.

    My assessments parallel those of Mr. Steele in that those among us who are currently entrenched in the midst of a populace not of their own race will likely be far more at risk than those who are among their own race.

    You, me and Mr. Steele might be “enlightened” enough to be disgusted by the need for racial segregation for safety’s sake, but unfortunately, the vast majority of the populace haven’t the education or personal reflection to afford them such enlightenment.

    Just for the record, my one great hope throughout all of this horrible strife we shall surely face is that the ultimate blame will fall squarely on the shoulders of those elites (the vast majority of whom are Ashkenazi-Jewish, mind you) who truly are to blame.

    Many will likely head straight for the politicians and others in public view, but these people, though they may bear their well-earned share of blame, are merely toadies for the true perpetrators. History is replete with the political fall-guys finally “getting theirs” in the end, but never have the true elites been held responsible. Hence, they keep on repeating this same, deadly game of Reality Monopoly at the expense of countless millions of the world’s citizenry.

    It’s time We the People hold these despicable elites directly responsible for their genocidal crimes; hopefully averting this same deadly cycle from repeating itself yet again during generations yet to come.

    In Peace & Liberty,

    Ed in Texas

  9. smitty on March 19th, 2009 3:22 pm

    The rant was good. I have a hard time with “whites” launching any armed resistance. I see us going the way of Brazil, basically filthy mud crap hole with gated white communities.

    Most whites are aged, weak and lack the integrity it takes for any real sacrifice. We have been under “kike” assault for almost 100 years in America and we are going to start fighting now?

    Sheeeeet! No way!

    Even if white nationalism were to advocated violence, it would be feeble at best (not because we are cowards, but scattered). No, I would say it is better to lay low like Steele says and protect your family, no one will ever help you and those that could or would are far and few between…

  10. Ethan on March 20th, 2009 12:03 am

    Negroes are committing genocide against us, and they don’t feel any guilt about it. They care only about themselves; they don’t care about biological aliens. Congoids rape 38,000 white women each year in this country, a fact which the congoid leaders never mention. (Whites rape fewer than 10 congoids each year, so the ratio is greater than 3800 to 1.)

    When biological aliens invade your living space, they become part of the gene pool. It’s a clear-cut, indisputable act of genocide, a heinous crime the negro is happy to commit.

    The average IQ of congoids and mulatoes in this country is 83. In Africa, it’s below 80.

    The founding fathers allowed only whites to become naturalized citizens.

    [T]he two races, equally free, cannot live under the same government.
    — Thomas Jefferson

    What I would most desire would be the separation of the white and black races.
    — A. Lincoln, July 17, 1858

    “A separation of the races is the only perfect preventive of
    amalgamation; but as an immediate separation is impossible, the next best thing is to keep them apart where they are not already together. If white and black people never get together in Kansas, they will never mix blood in Kansas.”
    — A. Lincoln, June 26, 1857

    Let us be brought to believe it is morally right, and at the same time favorable to, or at least not against, our interest to transfer the African to his native clime, and we shall find a way to do it, however great the task may be.
    — A. Lincoln, Sept. 22, 1856

    “I will say then, that I am not nor ever have been in favor of
    bringing about in any way, the social and political equality of
    the white and black races, that I am not, nor ever have been in
    favor of making voters of the negroes, or jurors, or qualifying
    them to hold office, or having them to marry with white people.”
    — A. Lincoln, Sept. 18, 1858

    Reduce the supply of black labor by colonizing the black laborer out of the country, and by precisely so much you increase the demand for, and wages of, white labor.
    — A. Lincoln, Dec. 1, 1862

  11. New America on March 20th, 2009 1:37 am

    Candidate for Governor? Idaho? Constitution Party?

    They should make the debates pay-per-view!

  12. RDB on March 20th, 2009 12:23 pm


    Ed in Texas writes:

    “We’ll all, regardless of race, creed or culture, have to face the prospect of facing a rogue government as well as the high probability of facing aggression from without, such as from Mexico, China and U.N. forces, for instance. I think we can all agree on that as well?”

    Not really. First, I’m convinced that we’ve been “facing a rogue government” since the initial inauguration of Franklin Delano Roosevelt, the “progressive” son of a bitch who was the heir and successor of “St. Woodrow” Wilson. Rogue government is what created Great Depression I, and is what has created (and is exacerbating) Great Depression II.

    That other people are coming to grips with what us libertarians have acknowledged at least since the Libertarian Party was founded in 1972 is an indication that the situation is now *so* damned bad that not even the MSM-blinded and baffled populace can deny it.

    That’s damned bad indeed.

    Second, “aggression from without” is rather difficult to credit.

    Ed, were you ever a wargamer?

    Back in the early ’70s, when a lot of us Baby Boomers were still young enough to be single and therefore unencumbered by wives with housekeeping fixations, a large number of young men were involved in designing, developing, testing, playing, modifying, and discussing conflict simulations games on hundreds of past and potential political and military struggles. Literally everything from the first battle of Har-Megiddo (Armageddon) to NATO vs. the Warsaw Pact to interstellar warfare.

    Tom Clancy was playing wargames before he decided to write *Hunt for Red October*. I met him at a wargames convention back then. In a tabletop demonstration of future “technothriller” writer Larry Bond’s *Harpoon* game system, Clancy had the “good guys” and I had a couple of Russian missile corvettes.

    I sank his ass.

    Wargamers were “thinking the unthinkable” long before the suits in the Pentagon ever began to try. We still are. On the morning of 9/11, I remember being the only person in the room who was accepting these “kamikaze-from-Allah” attacks with complete calm.

    Wargamers had been using *Flight Simulator* to crash fully fueled civilian airliners into the United Nations building practically from the day the computer program went on the market.

    Wargamers – being principled men as well as idealists – almost uniformly hate the living hell out of the United Nations.

    We’ve also looked at near-future invasions of these United States. Quite a bit. See SPI’s *Invasion America* (1976) and Milton Bradley’s more beer-and-pretzels *Fortress America* (1986) as examples.

    The logistics problems involved in a foreign aggressor – like Communist China – establishing and supporting sufficient forces on the North American continent are effectively insuperable. They could raid, certainly, and they could put diplomatic pressure on the U.S. federal government to knuckle under.

    With our present “rogue government” having little or no legitimacy, and therefore no assurance of support from the people of these United States, I don’t doubt that they’re vulnerable enough.

    But they can’t conquer. And both Mexico and the U.N. are sad sack jokes insofar as the projection of military power goes.

    The “aggression from without” factor is negligible except insofar as it can be used to squeeze the pimples on our body politic who make up what we’re presently using as a substitute for lawful, Constitutional government in this country.

  13. RDB on March 20th, 2009 1:04 pm


    Hibernian writes:

    “Those Irish, German and Italian immigrants were WHITE.

    “No matter how well-behaved a black/mestizo is, they are not of our people. They never will be.

    “That is the difference.’

    Funny, that’s precisely similar to what the Protestant nativists – look up “Know-Nothings” – said about “the Irish, German and Italian immigrants” (who were not only foreigners but dreaded Roman Catholic “Papists”) .

    The “past is different” argument has been voiced innumerable times before, and each time has been proven incorrect. Human nature doesn’t change. This is one of the reasons why the “natural rights” argument in the Declaration of Independence is as solid today as it was in 1776.

    What we’re seeing among Blacks and Hispanics in this country is a self-segregating tendency that hs been caused by the Democrat Party’s “War on Poverty” begun under Johnson in the ’60s.

    Prior to that time when government policy began to privilege the “underprivileged” through entitlement programs, set-asides, and similar blatantly unconstitutional interventions in the private sector, these ethnic groups had great incentive to accommodate themselves to the prevailing mainstream culture.

    To adopt American mainstream values, manners, comportment, language, and general attitudes.

    Relived by government of incentives to do so, they succumbed to the natural tendency to cling to what felt most familiar to them, and what was familiar to them was – let’s face it – not only odious but pathological. Self-destructive as all hell.

    This is what responsible Black Americans, like Bill Cosby, have decried. They understand that the effects of an “entitlement” environment in political America has resulted in what looks much like a permanent “underclass” status for Blacks in general, the election of a false Black to the presidency not withstanding.

    (( Anybody care to argue that Barry Soetoro is a *real* American Black? Mother White, *raised* White in his maternal grandmother’s household in Hawaii, deadbeat father direct from Kenya…. About as distinctively American “Black” as I am, damn his narrow mulatto lawyer ass. ))

    If it ever comes down to the sort of Tutsi-vs-Hutu ethnic warfare seen in Rwanda back during the Clinton Administration, bear in mind that the Blacks and the Hispanics are going to be the equivalent of the Tutsi minority.

    Remember what happened to *them*?

  14. Celt_nj on March 20th, 2009 2:23 pm

    smitty on March 19th, 2009 3:22 pm, Wrote:

    The rant was good. I have a hard time with “whites” launching any armed resistance. I see us going the way of Brazil, basically filthy mud crap hole with gated white communities.

    Most whites are aged, weak and lack the integrity it takes for any real sacrifice. We have been under “kike” assault for almost 100 years in America and we are going to start fighting now?

    Sheeeeet! No way!

    Even if white nationalism were to advocated violence, it would be feeble at best (not because we are cowards, but scattered). No, I would say it is better to lay low like Steele says and protect your family, no one will ever help you and those that could or would are far and few between…

    ———————————–

    Whites may if things get so bad that their survival depends on it. The problem is taking action beforehand. I disagree that WN are not cowards. They are. Even since nearly a year ago when I asked for local folks to help start a survivalist group over at vnn.com a group of freaks and weirdos followed me around in every thread with vulgar and childish insults no matter the topic matter. And no other ‘normal’ WN saw fit to defend me or ask the others to stop. That tells me a lot about what the average “White Nationalist” is about.

    Even over at Stormfront, the same Deer in the headlights apathy. For nearly a year I tried to get others to meet up just for a cup a coffee at a diner. A whole bunch of “Yes, I’m in NJ too!” yet no action in real life.

    And this post was ingnored:

    “You are correct. But Whites for the most part in this movement as well as the American Nationalist movement put egos above all. I’ve tried to meet others from a number of forums with all the same results. Apathy, paranoia and even outright hostility. Reaching out has caused me more stress and pain than sitting behind a keyboard.

    There are many things that can be done to further our cause. And it can be done in a way that even the average White could go along with including the fight against illegal immigration, outsoucing, affirmative action and so many other issues of concern that affect Whites on a personal basis. But them the defeatists come along and claim “But that’s not attacking the root of the problem!”. I then ask what they are going to do to “attack the root of the problem”. The response is always they cannot right now do anything

    This circular argument is getting so mucking old already. If one is fighting a war they do whatever is necessary to win. Therefore, if standing on a street corner in an SS uniform will never garnish sympathy for Whites then one must take another approach.

    Millions of illegals and their traitorous supporters for example marched over and over stepping on America while other Americans including Whites I might add did nothing in response. And let’s not forget how other ‘minorities’ march and always get what they want. Yes, I know it’s the “root of the problem” than none of you will do anything about.

    Here my fellow Whites is the real problem. Our enemies will never change. Therefore the only option is for us to change. And focus on the problem at hand using political weaponry we have available.

    Have many of you folks within a 100 mile radius of the past Euro Conference attended? Less than 1%? Now you know what the real “root of the problem” is.”…………..

    So if most Whites are dull and weak minded(including WN’s) then what is the point of these forums? Are Whites unable to change? Cannot ever be inspired?

    I do see a much different tone here at VOR. If Whites and Americans in general are to survive then sooner or later they will have to face reality and come out of hiding from behind a keyboard.

  15. RDB on March 20th, 2009 2:45 pm


    Celt_nj writes:

    “If Whites and Americans in general are to survive then sooner or later they will have to face reality and come out of hiding from behind a keyboard.”

    Most American Whites are law-abiding, meaning that they still repose some confidence in civil government – and the rule of law – to secure them in their rights to life, to liberty, and to property.

    It’s going to take more than the perception of a growing threat to dispose American Whites to joint together in a real armed and militant movement to suppress Blacks and Hispanics. They have to completely lose faith in the value and effectiveness of civil government as a stabilizing force in American society.

    In spite of the plain proof that government at all levels is *precisely* what Mr. Steele says it is, the general American appreciation of government is not degraded to match the reality. Most of us still think of government as “saving” us from the present economic catastrophe, rather than as the causative agent.

    It’s entirely too damned much like what was seen in Nazi Germany. The government – having screwed up the economy by the numbers – went into the hands of fanatic socialists who selected scapegoat populations (the Jews, the plutocrats, etc.), successfully shifted the blame to them, and went on their merry way to absolute disaster.

    Government in America is doing that right now. The “Liberals” of the MSM are doing their frantic best to help it along, but they’re hampered by the subsidiary media – talk radio and the Internet especially – in which people are not going along, and thereby spreading both discontent and resistance.

    Today’s socialists – call ‘em fascists; the term fits – are scared. They have reason to doubt that they can put their frauds across.

    Diversion of attention to distinct ethnic groups – like the Blacks – is what the Democrat Party (and their Republican sputniki) would really like to see. Better that the majority population focus on the obvious colored races than upon the Caucasian politicians and bureaucrats who *really* ought to wind up in shallow graves with a sack of quicklime sprinkled over each corpse.

    Call me a “moderate” if you like, but I think that racism is a waste of effort. Illegal immigrants could be driven completely out of the country tomorrow, and every Black in the nation could be dumped into Liberia the next day, and we’d *still* be saddled with the government that got us into this mess in the first place.

    The minorities are, at best, a minor problem compared with what we’ve got in Washington City. Why dissipate our energies where doing so solves no part of the real problem?

  16. Hibernian on March 20th, 2009 3:54 pm

    I of aware of at least 4 meetings of Whites currently being planned.

    Not that hard to find if you look.

  17. Mary O on March 20th, 2009 4:15 pm

    RDB: “The government – having screwed up the economy by the numbers – went into the hands of fanatic socialists who selected scapegoat populations (the Jews, the plutocrats, etc.), successfully shifted the blame to them, and went on their merry way to absolute disaster.”

    The Federal Reserve Bank is owned and controlled by private Jewish interests, while AIPAC and similar pressure groups control our foreign policy. If anything, the Jews get far LESS blame than they actually deserve. So who do you think is actually in charge?

    The real problem is that two cultures, Ashkenazi Jewish and White European Christian, are wholly incompatible. The Jews just think that we are stupid for believing in honor, integrity, and caring about what our fellow citizens think of us. They don’t fight wars; they don’t obey our laws, and they don’t show any respect towards our society despite the overly kind way in which they have always been treated. Just yesterday, some Jew went before Congress claiming that we didn’t do enough to save the Jews from the mythical Holocaust. Not enough American men died? Not enough European cities bombed to rubble? Not enough money and lives wasted? Nothing is ever enough. We need separation from them.

    Hitler’s government would not have come to disaster if we hadn’t blundered into what should have been a small regional war. But who owned Roosevelt?

  18. Mary O on March 20th, 2009 4:48 pm

    RDB: “Funny, that’s precisely similar to what the Protestant nativists – look up “Know-Nothings” – said about “the Irish, German and Italian immigrants” (who were not only foreigners but dreaded Roman Catholic “Papists”) .

    The “past is different” argument has been voiced innumerable times before, and each time has been proven incorrect. Human nature doesn’t change. This is one of the reasons why the “natural rights” argument in the Declaration of Independence is as solid today as it was in 1776.”

    Your argument is wholly specious.

    Non-sequitur:
    The Irish initially faced discrimination in America, but gained acceptance. The Germans initially faced discrimination in America, but gained acceptance. Other Europeans initially faced discrimination in American, but they too gained acceptance; THEREFORE, if Blacks face any type of discrimination, they are just exactly like the Irish, Germans and other Europeans.

    You are failing to see the obvious difference. The Irish, Germans and other Europeans were different ETHNICITIES within the same RACE. Ethnic differences are easier to resolve. We Whites all share the common history, religions (esp. Christianity), laws, customs and culture, with minor variations.

    Also, while there was negative feeling towards some White immigrant groups, we also saw a great deal of success; Irish, German & other European immigrants who immediately found gainful employment as farmers, teachers and businessmen. The complaint of the nativists was usually based on competition in the job market, not that the White immigrant was planning to live off of welfare like many of the modern-day Mexicans and Somalis do. And, as far as behavior, White immigrants may have been accused of wild behavior or drinking, but not of commiting horrific rape-murders like the murder of Kate Puzey or the Kinney girl in Cincinnati or the Channon Christian and Christopher Newsome.

    RDB: “What we’re seeing among Blacks and Hispanics in this country is a self-segregating tendency that hs been caused by the Democrat Party’s “War on Poverty” begun under Johnson in the ’60s.”

    Blacks self-segregated long before the 1960s. Harlem in the 1920s is one example of self-segregation. These communities also seemed happier and more prosperous than the welfare communities that were to come later.

  19. RDB on March 20th, 2009 5:04 pm

    Mary O writes:

    “The Federal Reserve Bank is owned and controlled by private Jewish interests, while AIPAC and similar pressure groups control our foreign policy. If anything, the Jews get far LESS blame than they actually deserve. So who do you think is actually in charge?”

    It’s hard to credit predominant Jewish ownership and dominance of the Federal Reserve System. Assertions have been made, but the factual support for those assertions seem thin at best.

    But, then, that Jews should be prominent in banking is nothing surprising. Efforts were made in Christian Western European countries to forbid Jews from owning land (the prime qualification for working and living as farmers, which more than 90% of the population had to do in the centuries before the First Industrial Revolution). They were forced into “middleman” occupations, including moneylending, in which Christians were impaired participants owing to sumptuary anti-usury laws based on religious beliefs. A decidedly artficial selection process was in place.

    So who do I think “is actually in charge?”

    Hm. Look at George W. Bush as an example. Born in Connecticut to a family of the old Republican aristocracy, prep-schooled at Phillips Academy (Andover, Mass.), “legacy” at Yale, Harvard MBA….

    Some Texican.

    Get right down to it, looks to me as if the people who are “actually in charge” can be distinguished by tracking them through the Ivy League.

    Good heavens, that goes for Barry Soetoro, too, doesn’t it?

    When you consider it, if the Jews were really the ones “actually in charge,” things right now would be running a helluva lot better than they are. Instead, what we’ve got at the steering wheel are a buhch of hammer-headed predominantly Caucasian self-anointed Protestant aristocrats who consider themselves “ready-booted and spurred to ride.”

    The same kind of arrogant, stupid, incompetent WASP sonsofbitches against whom the Revolution was fought.

    A very interesting article – “The Republican Charade: Lincoln and His Party” – was written by revisionist historian Clyde Wilson a couple of years ago, and bears examination.

    See http://www.lewrockwell.com/wilson/wilson20.html

    The people who are really preying upon you – and all the rest of us – through institutions like the Federal Reserve System and the rest of the vast unconstitutionality that is our federal government – may certainly *include* Jews and Blacks and Hispanics and other minority groups.

    But for the greatest part, they’re wealthy, well-connected White Anglo-Saxon Protestants with as much claim to “aryan” ethnicity as the most vehement White Nationalists posting on the Web.

    What they’re counting upon is the diversion of attention to scapegoats of one kind or another.

    Therefore being diverted in this way is precisely what you must NOT allow.

  20. RDB on March 20th, 2009 5:29 pm


    Among other things, Mary O writes:

    “Blacks self-segregated long before the 1960s. Harlem in the 1920s is one example of self-segregation. These communities also seemed happier and more prosperous than the welfare communities that were to come later.”

    That was not “self-segregated” at all. Northern colonies of black immigrants who had “come north” since the Revolution had been segregated largely because of White prejudices running as fervent in the North as in the South. Remember the draft riots that swept New York City 11 to 16 July 1863? If you want a model for an American racial pogrom, you’ve got it right there.

    That neighborhoods like Harlem should have grown to be racially selected is nothing more than an accommodation to de facto and de jure measures suppressing Black integration in mainstream society. Like “Chinatown” neighborhoods seen all over America, and the “Little Italy” phenomenon in many cities, Harlem was seen as a place in which Blacks could establish homes and businesses to serve Black people’s needs.

    Mary O is correct, however, in observing that circumstances which enabled so many Blacks “.. to live off of welfare” have done them great injury. Similarly, the government forcing White businessmen to accommodate Black customers – so called “Civil Rights” legislation – has been damaging as well.

    The Blacks were building themselves a solid entrepreneurial middle class until “Civil Rights” came along. Thereafter, the solidly established (and much larger) White middle class could – however grudgingly – take over the Black businesses’ formerly secure customer base at lower cost, and therefore underprice Black enterprises.

    Opportunities for Black entrepreneurs in the private sector – the productive, genuinely wealth-building sector – went instantly to hell.

    On the face of it, skin color notwithstanding, there was really little or no reason to expect that Irish, German, Italian, Polish, or other non-Anglophone immigrant populations to have integrated into American society during the 19th Century. Stressing that they were Christians obscures the fact that they were *Catholics,* and religious strife between Protestants and Catholics in the 17th and 18th Centuries was by no means restricted to Europe.

    There were Catholic-Protestant conflicts – sometimes armed and bloody – in the American colonies during the decades leading up to the Revolution. There was no reason to expect that Catholic immigrants could be integrated into mainstream America in the 19th Century.

    If the welfare state gives us the real cause for the inflow of illegal immigrants – and for the Black and Hispanic populations of this country never truly hauling themselves out of the same sordid conditions in which the first generations of Irish immigrants found themselves in the years before the War of Northern Aggression – then it’s the welfare state that must be addressed and got rid of.

    Again, racism is a diversion. We need to get our thumbs firmly around the throats of the real enemies.

    And those throats are White.

  21. Mary O on March 20th, 2009 5:29 pm

    RDB: “But, then, that Jews should be prominent in banking is nothing surprising. Efforts were made in Christian Western European countries to forbid Jews from owning land (the prime qualification for working and living as farmers, which more than 90% of the population had to do in the centuries before the First Industrial Revolution).”

    Maybe if they had stayed in their own country (Khazaria), they wouldn’t have to worry about Western European nations passing laws to try to get rid of them. As far as Christian (and Islamic) prohibitions on usuary, look at the recent sub-prime crisis, and ask if the religious authorities weren’t in the right.

  22. Hibernian on March 20th, 2009 5:31 pm

    My point exactly Mary.

    Irish, German, Italian, Polish, Russian…..All immigrants to be sure, as my own who sailed from Cork, but the binding of them all being that they are all WHITE immigrants.

    How RDB misses that obvious distinction between that historical WHITE immigration and the current invasion is beyond me.

    Also, 19th century cries for religious discrimination (Papist,etc.) in America are utterly irrelevant today, as an increasing ambivalence towards the superstition of “religion” in all forms pervades popular opinion.

  23. Mary O on March 20th, 2009 5:50 pm

    RDB: “On the face of it, skin color notwithstanding, there was really little or no reason to expect that Irish, German, Italian, Polish, or other non-Anglophone immigrant populations to have integrated into American society during the 19th Century. Stressing that they were Christians obscures the fact that they were *Catholics,* and religious strife between Protestants and Catholics in the 17th and 18th Centuries was by no means restricted to Europe.

    There were Catholic-Protestant conflicts – sometimes armed and bloody – in the American colonies during the decades leading up to the Revolution. There was no reason to expect that Catholic immigrants could be integrated into mainstream America in the 19th Century.”

    Could you please name one of these Protestant vs. Catholic bloody conflicts that took place in America?

    Again, you are trying to compare a relatively small religious, cultural or ethnic difference among White groups to the huge difference between the Black and White races.

  24. RDB on March 20th, 2009 6:00 pm


    Mary O asks:

    “As far as Christian (and Islamic) prohibitions on usuary, look at the recent sub-prime crisis, and ask if the religious authorities weren’t in the right.”

    Especially in the Islamic world, the religious-based prohibitions against usury have had (and are continuing to have) stultifying effects.

    The economic factors of production are land, labor, and capital.

    Under circumstances where governments are not counterfeiting currency (as the Federal Reserve System does, and was designed to do), capital represents the accumulation of deferred spending.

    Savings earned and put away “for a rainy day.”

    For capital to be used as a factor in production, it has to be available to borrow.

    In essence, people borrowing money are *renting* it. They must put it to productive use in order to earn not only the restoration of the principal but also the cost of the “rent” they have to pay. The lender gets back his deferred spending power, plus a return on the risk he took in lending it out.

    Pretty simple. This is what has made capital the most productive of the three factors of production, and is why the advocates of free market economics accept “capitalism” as a good descriptive term of their political economic philosophy.

    (( Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels were groping for a nasty term to substitute for “free market economics” when they invented the word “capitalism.” ))

    If people were prevented from “renting” their deferred spending to other folks – who had ideas for turning that deferred spending into profitable businesses – the growth in real wealth we’ve seen over the past few centuries couldn’t have happened.

    Remember, real wealth isn’t currency, but rather goods and services that actually make the quality of life better. Money-lending is a part of that growth in real wealth.

    Before a system of money-lending got started, very little in the way of real quality-of-life spending or building got done. Money was gained by governments through taxation or outright plunder, and what large-scale projects got greenlighted were those which were politically sweet.

    Big arenas like the Collosseum. Aqueducts. Public baths. Cathedrals. Fortresses. Impressive, unproductive, bloody nonsense.

    But when private folks could pool their deferred spending, and moneylenders could manage it by lending it to other private folks in the productive sector of society….

    Factories. Stores. Apartment buildings. Hospitals. Private schools. Oil refineries. Mines.

    Largely unimpressive, *necessarily* productive, common-sense uses of people’s time and effort and wealth.

    Anti-usury laws screw this process up big time, which is one of the big reasons why the Islamic cultures are intrinsically and totally screwed to death.

  25. RDB on March 20th, 2009 6:07 pm


    Mary O asks:

    “Could you please name one of these Protestant vs. Catholic bloody conflicts that took place in America?”

    Sure. Look up the history of Annapolis, Maryland, emphasis on the Battle of the Severn (25 March 1655).

    See http://anthropology.si.edu/writteninbone/comic/activity/pdf/Battle_Severn.pdf

    ..as well as: http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/09755b.htm

  26. Mary O on March 20th, 2009 6:11 pm

    RTB: “It’s hard to credit predominant Jewish ownership and dominance of the Federal Reserve System. Assertions have been made, but the factual support for those assertions seem thin at best. ”

    Look at the Fed’s own site. Its board members are Ben Bernanke, Donald Kohn, Kevin Warsh, Elizabeth Duke and Donald Tarullo. The top three positions are definitely Jews.

  27. jimmy j on March 20th, 2009 6:15 pm

    But if most american blacks are protestants then why don’t they act like englishmen?

  28. RDB on March 20th, 2009 6:19 pm


    Writes Mary O:

    “Look at the Fed’s own site. Its board members are Ben Bernanke, Donald Kohn, Kevin Warsh, Elizabeth Duke and Donald Tarullo. The top three positions are definitely Jews.”

    So up against the wall with ‘em.

    But is my contention about Ivy Leaguers any less robust than the supposition that the Fed is a Jewish conspiracy? If we look through the resumes of all the Federal Reserve System’s governors, aren’t we even more likely to learn that – surprise! – the overwhelming majority of them hold college degrees from Brown and Dartmouth, Harvard and Yale, Cornell and Princeton, the University of Pennsylvania (particularly the Wharton School) and Columbia?

    Good heavens, but Yale’s motto is even in Hebrew: *Urim and Thummim*.

    You want a good, solid conspiracy theory to explore, let’s use the Ivy League as our take-off point.

  29. RDB on March 20th, 2009 6:20 pm


    Asks jimmy j:

    “But if most american blacks are protestants then why don’t they act like englishmen?”

    Well, they kinda *do*.

    Ever heard of soccer hooligans?

  30. Mary O on March 20th, 2009 6:21 pm

    RDB: “Big arenas like the Collosseum. Aqueducts. Public baths. Cathedrals. Fortresses. Impressive, unproductive, bloody nonsense.”

    Water is unproductive nonsense???? Sorry, but Romans needed that water desperately. And, European life revolved around the Church and the cathedrals. Fortresses were also necessary to protect the people from invasion. Public baths were also helpful to society and the Collosseum was very popular. All these institutions greatly improved the life of the average citizen.

  31. jimmy j on March 20th, 2009 6:30 pm

    Good show Ed, I would have said great show but one thing gives me pause; Airport nazis???

    I really wouldn’t have a problem walking into an airport and being met by tall, fit, smiling, intelligent, super efficient Germans, as opposed to the ill tempered, half retarded, lazy, thieving, unwashed, dusky sort, that rips the handle off your suitcase that you DO find in the airports these days.

  32. jimmy j on March 20th, 2009 6:39 pm

    “Asks jimmy j:

    “But if most american blacks are protestants then why don’t they act like englishmen?”

    Well, they kinda *do*.

    Ever heard of soccer hooligans?”

    I sure have, but have you ever heard of soccer hooligans committing 40k rapes a year, or doing drive by shootings, or that they are 6% of the population but are responsible for 50% of the violent crimes?

  33. RDB on March 20th, 2009 6:44 pm

    Mary O writes:

    “Water is unproductive nonsense???? Sorry, but Romans needed that water desperately. And, European life revolved around the Church and the cathedrals. Fortresses were also necessary to protect the people from invasion. Public baths were also helpful to society and the Collosseum was very popular. All these institutions greatly improved the life of the average citizen.”

    The Roman cities used the water carried in by aqueducts for impressive luxuries – which is what the public baths were. In the city of Rome itself at the peak of this aqueductal mania, the per capita usage of water was higher than what we see now in American cities.

    We’re not talking about water used for industrial processes, or for placer mining, or for anything – and I use this word specifically – productive.

    Likewise, building big cathedrals is not *productive* no matter how you might conceive European life revolving around these massive white elephants. And the various fortifications built in medieval Europe as well as in the same countries during the Renaissance and the Enlightenment were built by governments to gain and keep hold of regions they’d conquered and were taxing.

    Get a look at the enormously expensive castles established by England’s Edward I to nail down his conquest of Wales. Were they “productive” of anything but foreign tyranny?

    And if the popularity of bloodsoaked arenas like the Collosseum is your idea of productivity, then Barry Soetoro is *extremely* productive.

    Which – of course – he’s not.

    Productivity refers to the creation of wealth, and the devotion of people’s accumulated spending power to gaudy unproductive nonsense – which is what Barry Soetoro is proposing – is just plain insane.

    See http://www.theonion.com/content/video/in_the_know_should_the_government

  34. jimmy j on March 20th, 2009 6:53 pm

    Modest numbers of water wheels have been identified in various parts of the Greek and Roman World, and they may have once been much more extensive than historians have recognised. Most towns and cities had good aqueducts, and it would not have been difficult to harness part of the supply to driving water wheels for milling, fulling, crushing and sawing wood and stone such as marble. The Romans used both fixed and floating water wheels and introduced water power to other parts of the Roman Empire. The basic construction is described by the engineer Vitruvius writing in 25 BC in his work De Architectura.

    The Romans were known to use waterwheels extensively in mining projects, with enormous Roman-era waterwheels found in places like modern-day Spain. They were reverse overshot water-wheels designed for dewatering mines. A series of overshot mills existed at Barbegal near Arles in southern France where corn was milled for the production of bread. The Roman poet Ausonius mentions a mill for cutting marble on the Moselle. Floating mills were also known from the later Empire, where a wheel was attached to a boat moored in a fast flowing river.

  35. RDB on March 20th, 2009 6:57 pm


    Asks jimmy j:

    “…have you ever heard of soccer hooligans committing 40k rapes a year, or doing drive by shootings, or that they are 6% of the population but are responsible for 50% of the violent crimes?”

    Like writer L. Neil Smith, I consider violent crime a solved problem.

    In the past several decades, “Liberals” have been much discomforted and enraged by programs in which local jurisdictions (like Orlando, FL) have succeeded with pubic efforts not only to train and arm women with concealed firearms but to publicize these efforts to all and sundry.

    The result of knowing that even a small number of otherwise apparently unarmed women were “packing heat” resulted in a large drop in the incidence of violent crimes against women.

    The technological solution to all these rapes (and muggings, and home invasions) has been around for centuries. It’s called “the pistol.”

    Nationwide “Vermont Carry” is obviously what we need. Watch the head of each “Liberal” explode when you say this.

    As for “drive by shootings,” there’s an even easier solution.

    End the “War on Drugs.” The drug dealers establish and defend lucrative criminal drug sales territorie with these “drive by shootings.” The criminalization of drug sales gives ‘em a huge profit incentive, and therefore murdering their competitors is worth the risk.

    No “War on Drugs” and the cost of getting cocaine and Heroin and the rest of that crap to the doper drops to very nearly the cost of production. No profit margin for the criminals any more. Therefore no justification for criminal street crime like “drive by shootings.”

    If you really hate the Blacks who are responsible for so much of the criminal violence in America today, do two things to them:

    1) Arm their victims. Exercise the 2nd Amendment and ram it down the government’s throat.

    2) Defund them. End the “War on Drugs.”

  36. New America on March 20th, 2009 6:57 pm

    in considered reply to RDB on usury:

    you wrote:

    Especially in the Islamic world, the religious-based prohibitions against usury have had (and are continuing to have) stultifying effects.

    in reply:
    Islam is, essentially, a solid state religion; it really belongs back in the Seventh Century.

    It isn’t so much the “religious-based prohibitions against usury” that have had such “stultifying effects,” it is Islam, itself, that is inherently stultifying.

    you wrote:

    The economic factors of production are land, labor, and capital.

    Under circumstances where governments are not counterfeiting currency (as the Federal Reserve System does, and was designed to do), capital represents the accumulation of deferred spending.

    Savings earned and put away “for a rainy day.”

    in reply:
    I draw a critical distinction between financial capital, and human capital.

    All of the financial capital in the world would have been to little avail if a genius like, say, Henry Ford, wasn’t available to actually do something with it.

    And yet., all economic development has taken place in the only Culture that seeks, almost blindly, to further enhance Mankind, and human potential, and that is Western Civilization, and the White RACE.

    That is the missing framework in so many of the Conservative/Libertarian models; that they have seen fit to worship a mechanism – market-clearing prices – as the thing itself – “Capitalism,” loosely defined as a “free market” – is but the first measure of their failure.

    Why did we create the transistor, and the history-changing integrated circuit?

    We wanted to go to the Moon, and send men there, and bring them back.

    That great symbol of the west, the Infinite Plane, manifested in that quite wonderful instance, and the tools needed to carry us forward – computers – were Created to meet the need.

    A need, I might add, the “free market” never sought to fulfill.

    you wrote:

    For capital to be used as a factor in production, it has to be available to borrow.

    In essence, people borrowing money are *renting* it. They must put it to productive use in order to earn not only the restoration of the principal but also the cost of the “rent” they have to pay. The lender gets back his deferred spending power, plus a return on the risk he took in lending it out.

    Pretty simple. This is what has made capital the most productive of the three factors of production, and is why the advocates of free market economics accept “capitalism” as a good descriptive term of their political economic philosophy.

    in reply:
    “Pretty simple,” perhaps.

    “Overly simplistic” might be a bit more accurate.

    You see, there are other, much more effective models of capital investment than usurious lending, where the mechanistic hand of compound interests works to make the rich much richer – see all of those banks? – and the working much, well, someone who has to work much harder to pay off the hidden tax of currency inflation mandated by a usurious system.

    Such models include various partnerships, which tend to insure the partners share their understanding of the market to collectively create a better understanding of the market, and create a wider variety of equitable risk-sharing mechanisms.

    you wrote:

    (( Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels were groping for a nasty term to substitute for “free market economics” when they invented the word “capitalism.” ))

    in reply:
    It’s been a long time since I took a course in the history of economic thought, but I suspect “capitalism” was not the term created by Jew Marx and Jew Engels.

    On the other hand, what on earth would Jew Marx and Jew Engels have in common, but a (Talmudical!) Jewish intellectual framework to achieve a Jewish purpose?

    Funny how no one, outside of us, would ask why a man “opposed” to capitalism would be subsidized by a “capitalist.”

    Hold that thought, and I will return to it directly.

    you wrote:

    If people were prevented from “renting” their deferred spending to other folks – who had ideas for turning that deferred spending into profitable businesses – the growth in real wealth we’ve seen over the past few centuries couldn’t have happened.

    in reply:
    If you correct for inflation, using the Federal Reserve’s own inflation calculators, you will see that most of what we call “growth” is really (1) masked by inflation, (2) accrued to higher and tighter hands, (3) at the expense of the working people who paid the freight, and discover all of the promises made are being broken, even as we speak.

    And, as Peter Schaenk noted in an earlier broadcast, we are returning to a lower standard of living, following in the footsteps of Eastern Europe.

    Remove the national debt – at least, that component created by the usurious, Jew-controlled banking system – and see what could have been done with the money, instead of turning our Posterity into the New Serfs.

    you wrote:

    Remember, real wealth isn’t currency, but rather goods and services that actually make the quality of life better. Money-lending is a part of that growth in real wealth.

    in reply:
    Goods and services, in and of themselves, accomplish little.

    Take the finest microscopes, the best supercomputers, and drop them in the middle of the Kalahari, and watch as they are ignored, or destroyed.

    Only Western Civilization provides a framework that supports the creation and ever-greater development of the tools needed to make better things, for a better life – and that includes better tools.

    Remember, no other social order wanted to make the Hubble telescope, a tool that opens doors to us that they literally can not begin to imagine.

    you wrote:

    Before a system of money-lending got started, very little in the way of real quality-of-life spending or building got done. Money was gained by governments through taxation or outright plunder, and what large-scale projects got greenlighted were those which were politically sweet.

    in reply:
    I think this point confuses “money-lending” with mechanical, usurious money-lending, whereas I see organic “money-lending” as the province of risk-sharing in organic partnerships, for one example.

    To return to an earlier point, Bob Whitaker is forcing me to be more rigorous, analytically speaking, and thus, I am trying to see things more clearly, and define them more accurately.

    And THAT take us to Marx, Engels, and “Capitalism.”

    Let’s try this for a definition:

    Jew Marx and Jew Engels formed a system of State Capitalism, called “Communism,” where everything, and everyone, was owned by the Jewish-controlled State.

    Think of “Capital,” on the other hand, properly, and you will see it is a synonym for “Property.”

    So, really, the distinction between Capitalism and Communism is simply one of who owns the property, and what they can do with it.

    Now, “Property” can take many Forms, indeed.

    But, the most organic form of investment of one Form of Property in another Form of Property, is the organic partnership, and not the mechanistic, inorganic hand of usury.

  37. jimmy j on March 20th, 2009 7:00 pm

    “1) Arm their victims. Exercise the 2nd Amendment and ram it down the government’s throat.

    2) Defund them. End the “War on Drugs.”

    3) Send them back to africa with a jew and a mexican in each arm.

  38. Mary O on March 20th, 2009 7:08 pm

    RDB: “So up against the wall with ‘em.

    But is my contention about Ivy Leaguers any less robust than the supposition that the Fed is a Jewish conspiracy? If we look through the resumes of all the Federal Reserve System’s governors, aren’t we even more likely to learn that – surprise! – the overwhelming majority of them hold college degrees from Brown and Dartmouth, Harvard and Yale, Cornell and Princeton, the University of Pennsylvania (particularly the Wharton School) and Columbia?

    Good heavens, but Yale’s motto is even in Hebrew: *Urim and Thummim*.

    You want a good, solid conspiracy theory to explore, let’s use the Ivy League as our take-off point.” [End Quote]

    The Ivies are a cult. And totally full of Jews. Recently mentioned on one of VOR shows was the statistic that Jews are the largest ethnic group at Harvard, comprising about 40%.

    One might resent that the Jews have in a sense “stolen” our top universities; but with the Jewish glut, the Ivy rep has also fallen. Now Ivies are seen as glitzy and degenerate; and unable to place people in job positions that pay well enough for their former student to pay back his loans.

    Back in the 1950s, the Ivies (and all colleges) were not so inflated in price. A middle-class person could attend Harvard without borrowing huge sums. An Ivy Leaguer was seen as a perfect gentlemen and scholar, with excellent writing and research skills, tact, good taste, an “all-round” education, perhaps an enthusiasm for sports, and decent morals; the type of man who would eventually become a “pillar” of his community.

    Now Harvard has become quite frankly a place where wealthy women send their gay sons, and a place where you don’t go if you don’t qualify for a diversity junket. While certain specific programs may have retained their integrity; generally, an Ivy BA (esp. in humanities, or social science) does not impress. Today’s Ivy Leaguer is seen as a hipster, atheist, a citizen of the world, religiously PC, immoral, arrogant and self-obsessed.

    Ivy Leaguers don’t seem to me to be the most brilliant of our society; they seem rather too eager to accept anything their professors tell them as the word of God. Told that Foucault says that everyone is really bisexual, they will obediently jump into bed with their nearest same-sex fellow student. Told that race is a construct, they will join the Peace Corps and get raped and killed somewhere in Africa. Told that marriage, religion and everything else are just “social constructs”, they will attend nude parties and engage in other unacceptable behavior. But then, if these Ivy Leaguers were capable of critical thought, they would question what exactly they were paying for anyways — and not go there.

    You might argue that the Ivy grads still have considerable influence, but how often is the term “Ivy League” used in earnest as praise these days?

  39. RDB on March 20th, 2009 7:11 pm


    jimmy j might have been familiar with Sprague and Catherine de Camp’s *The Ancient Engineers* (1963) when he wrote:

    “Modest numbers of water wheels have been identified in various parts of the Greek and Roman World, and they may have once been much more extensive than historians have recognised.”

    This is true. But apart from minor service activities (such as the fulling or cleaning of woolens), there was little industrial use of water power in metropolitan Rome.

    More importantly, the aqueducts constructed with much fanfare by wealthy Romans (including the various emperors) weren’t created to bring water to centers of production but primarily to fill the various public baths, drinking fountains, aristocrats’ reflecting pools, and suchlike. Luxury consumer items, not what could be called capital investment projects.

    Where water power was used to “dewater mines” (for example), these activities were merely good engineering efforts secondarily devoted to getting a productive return out of a resource, and represented nothing near the levels of cost in materials and labor that the luxury aqueducts did.

    That there should be secondary and entirely unintended benefits to politically-motivated spending and construction can’t be surprising. Not even the goons of government can be absolutely useless *all* of the time.

    This doesn’t take away from the understanding that government activities are *preponderantly* wasteful and useless.

    Better the spending – meaning the resources, the human ingenuity and effort, and the accumulated capital – were left entirely in the private sector, where the parasites can’t squander it.

  40. RDB on March 20th, 2009 7:19 pm


    Writes jimmy j:

    “3) Send them back to africa with a jew and a mexican in each arm.”

    Hm. Compared with equipping every American woman with something light and lady-like in the way of a semiautomatic or a revolver (I’m willing to go as low as .32 caliber) and issuing one of Paul Begala’s “Stroke of the pen. Law of the Land. Kinda neat.” presidential Executive Orders putting a complete stop to the federal “War on Drugs,” rounding up literally millions of people and shipping them off to another continent is a lot of really hard work.

  41. jimmy j on March 20th, 2009 7:24 pm

    RDB

    I see what you are getting at now. I am sympathetic to the libertarian position, but I think it is perhaps a tiny bit too ‘hands off’. It would however be quite refreshing after the reign of neo-trotskyites (aka neo-cons) and neo-marxists (aka democrats).

  42. RDB on March 20th, 2009 7:33 pm


    Mary O discusses the degradation of the Ivy League universities, attributing it to the infiltration of Jews and homosexuals, writing:

    “Ivy Leaguers don’t seem to me to be the most brilliant of our society; they seem rather too eager to accept anything their professors tell them as the word of God. ”

    That’s pretty much true for all college students. Indeed, it’s the effect that critics like John Taylor Gatto have decried in all of our government “public” schools from Kindergarten up.

    This notwithstanding, I think it valuable to contend that the relationships developed in the Ivy League schools function not in a cultic fashion but rather in a sort of “Old Boys’ Network” much as the original version of that network – borne of matriculation in the hoity-toity English pubic schools, the equivalent of American “prep” schools – does in Great Britain.

    Note that Dubbya graduated from Phillips Academy while our current Immigrant President got his high school diploma from the Punahao School – *the* prestige prep academy in Hawaii.

    After which he went on to take his baccalaureate at Columbia and slime into Harvard Law.

    I agree that the Ivy Leaguers are *not* the brightest bulbs on the Christmas tree. But Mary’s perceptions and mine do not count. The established Ivy Leaguers naturally look to boost up-and-coming Ivy Leaguers as their abettors and successors, and therefore these well-connected dunderheads perpetuate their false elitism in government, in business, and so forth.

    If there are a lot of Jews in some of the Ivy League schools – like Harvard – it may well be due to nothing more than the desperate generations-old desire of American Jews to assimilate. “Think Yiddish, Dress British” and all that.

    It’s the intrinsic political malignancy of Harvard itself (might as well call it the Cambridge Campus of Patrice Lumumba University) that concerns me more than how many of the students or professors have undergone a Bar Mitzvah ceremony.

  43. Mary O on March 20th, 2009 7:34 pm

    NA: “reply:
    Islam is, essentially, a solid state religion; it really belongs back in the Seventh Century.

    It isn’t so much the “religious-based prohibitions against usury” that have had such “stultifying effects,” it is Islam, itself, that is inherently stultifying.[End quote]

    I don’t agree.

    Organized religion gives structure to life, and unfortunately most people need structure.

    Consider such Islamic traditions as the fathers taking their sons to prayer services on Friday night. White American fathers don’t really have any such customs, and most teenagers live in fatherless homes. Divorce is rampant. The birth rate is low, since women don’t feel that they can provide for the children alone. Marriages are decreasing in frequency. We have no social cohesion. We do not have strong political organization. And, a large part of this moral decay is thanks to the hipsters who see religion as mere superstition.

    Islam is growing and thriving. Its cultures are invading and conquering Europe. They have colonies in the US. Their military forces are winning in the fight against Israel. Both Iraq and Afghanistan will prove to be Islamic victories. Plus, their leader have a lot more common sense than ours. Compare the writings and statements of their leaders to the ravings of Cheney.

  44. jimmy j on March 20th, 2009 7:35 pm

    ” rounding up literally millions of people and shipping them off to another continent is a lot of really hard work.”

    Hard work is what generations of americans have proven they do best.

  45. Ed in Texas on March 20th, 2009 7:52 pm

    RDB,

    The Bush’s and their ilk in the “WASP” community are all just puppets to the true powers behind the throne, who consist of Jewish (albeit “fake” Ashkenazi Jewish) families such as the Rothschilds and Rockefellers, et.al.

    Yep, these true wielders of power were undoubtedly all educated in Ivy League universities; at least the ones who even opted to go to college, but where they attended college is a moot point in my estimation.

    My point is that these “WASP”s (and Barky Soetero is one of ‘em) are definitely responsible for their part in bringing down our nation, but they certainly weren’t the catalysts of our destruction. That distinction lies firmly on the shoulders of the puppet-masters in charge of the FED and other International Banking cartels.

    It’s not conjecture or “conspiracy theory” that Ashkenazi Jews are overwhelmingly in control of such stealth-empires. I’ve seen estimates that of the (appx) $500T (that would be “trillion”) that the world is worth, that the Rothschild family has control of a full 3/5ths of it ($300T), with the Rockefellers controlling yet another $100T and with the majority of the remaining $100T owned by yet another 11 so-called mega-elite families. These people – Ashkenazi Jews all – make Bill Gates look like a pauper.

    They only foist Gates, Buffet and the like up on the “world’s richest” pedestal to make it seem that way to keep the blisteringly naive Sheeple from discovering the real power in this world.

    Yes, the Bushes and Cheneys and others (from both of the big-two political parties) who are regularly held up to be the “most powerful people in the world” by the MSM are certainly wealthy beyond the scope of most folk’s understanding, but they really are mere puppets being dangled at the whims of the true elites.

    Like I mentioned before, dismiss the evil intentions and capabilities of the real powers at your peril. I’ll always prepare myself, my family and my friends to face ALL enemies, not just whomever might currently be in charge at the federal level within our own government. As a WASSD (White Anglo-Saxon Spiritual-Deist), I’ll be wary of not only our own tyrants in DC, but also the fake-Jews, Blacks & Hispanics; not due to holding any ill-will against them, but rather because of the ill-will the majority of their populace might hold against me for merely being White.

    By the way, you nailed it: Many years ago (70s) I was a wargamer (predominantly Napoleonic miniaturist as well as enjoying the occasional game of Risk or Axis & Allies and some S&T products). And yes, as an “old guy” with an actual life now, I no longer have the time to devote to such frivolities. I’m guessing that all the responsibilities of family-life have caught up with you too? I used to really enjoy it though and remember those days fondly.

    In Peace & Liberty,

    Ed in Texas

  46. RDB on March 20th, 2009 7:56 pm


    The post of New America (above) got chewed by formatting to the point at which much of what’s on the right side of the Web page can’t be read on my CRT. Possibly that’s due to my elderly Windows XP operating system. Sorry.

    But enough of his points were legible to drive some comment in return.

    I see him write that:

    “….you will see that most of what we call ‘growth’ is really (1) masked by inflation, (2) accrued to higher and tighter hands, (3) at the expense of the working people who paid the freight, and discover all of the promises made are being broken, even as we speak.”

    Well, that sees partway into the problem. It fails to appreciate the cause of inflation, which is the issue of valuless fiat currency by what serves these United States in lieu of a national bank: the Federal Reserve System.

    What New America is really complaining about is the fact that real growth in productivity is raided by government. Stolen. This is accomplished either through counterfeiting (those Federal Reserve Notes in your wallet), taxation (robbery at gunpoint), or predation upon the world’s capital markets (Treasury I.O.U.s that promise returns and/or “security” that makes private sector borrowing more costly and more difficult).

    Real growth goes down the rat-hole while our government officers have “gulled, cullied, and diddled” us with spurious figures.

    Again, as always, the solution is to get government cut down. Harshly.

    As for the difference between financial capital and “human capital,” there really isn’t any such thing as the latter.

    The phrase “human capital” is a curious beastliness in and of itself. It treats self-activated human ingenuity and effort as a fungible resource, as if money invested in one PhD. turns out precisely the same return spent to get another doctoral degree.

    Moreover, it assumes that “human capital” can be turned to many different uses, as financial capital can. This is not true

    The “human capital” invested in getting a C.P.A. , or a D.M.D., or a law degree, or even board certification in neurosurgery is USELESS if the prevailing government regulatory establishment won’t allow you to practice what you’ve been trained to do.

    And try getting a neurosurgeon to do your taxes for you. Disaster.

    Finally, “human capital” serves the goons of government by fooling the gullible into thinking that government spending on education will necessarily return wealth on the “investment.”

    Has this proven true so far? Consider the large number of college graduates in the various “Liberal Arts” subjects who spend their postgraduate years flipping hamburgers and hopefully applying for drivers’ jobs at U.P.S.

    Not really.

  47. Ed in Texas on March 20th, 2009 8:05 pm

    RDB,

    Something I forgot to mention that I KNOW you’ll get a kick out of:

    If I remember correctly, you’re Libertarian? If so, then I’m guessing that you keep up with the postings from Lew Rockwell? There was an hilarious article by C.J. Maloney that came out recently entitled, “America’s Ivy League College: The Dumbass Factory.” As funny as it was though, Maloney really did nail it.

    You might have already read it, but if not, just go to lewrockwell(dot)com and then to the contributor’s archives and find Maloney. It should be his most recent post?

    Enjoy! ;o)

    Ed in Texas

  48. RDB on March 20th, 2009 8:12 pm


    Writes Mary O:

    “Organized religion gives structure to life, and unfortunately most people need structure.

    “Consider such Islamic traditions as the fathers taking their sons to prayer services on Friday night. White American fathers don’t really have any such customs, and most teenagers live in fatherless homes. Divorce is rampant. The birth rate is low, since women don’t feel that they can provide for the children alone. Marriages are decreasing in frequency. We have no social cohesion. We do not have strong political organization. And, a large part of this moral decay is thanks to the hipsters who see religion as mere superstition.”

    So what is the structure to which organized religion gives life?

    The example of the Islamic father who takes his son to prayer services on Friday evening is particularly apt. What has been the effect of this vigorously rooted and all-consuming societal presence of religion in Dar al Islam?

    I’m not familiar with their rates of divorce or fatherlessness, but their “societal cohesion” doesn’t look all that different from what was portrayed in that movie *The Gangs of New York* (2002). In the Islamic world, people tend to live in walled compounds, depending upon their families, clans, and tribes for societal and political support. Women are murdered by their menfolk for the sake of “honor,” neighbors are assassinated in the night, and their ability to produce – to create wealth for themselves – is godawful.

    Look at what “Palestine” was before the Zionists started settling upon it, and look at what it became. Whether you like Jews or not, the Sabras have shown what can be done with even the poorest land if Western industrial tools of productivity are applied to it.

    So much for the value of Islam. Or, in fact, any religion. Yes, religion can be a structuring force for society. Is it the best structuring force? Evidence runs to the contrary.

    Writes Mary O:

    “Islam is growing and thriving. Its cultures are invading and conquering Europe.”

    Only in the sense that a cancer can be said to grow and thrive.

    Invasive it may be. Healthy? I think not.

  49. Mary O on March 20th, 2009 8:12 pm

    RDB: “Has this proven true so far? Consider the large number of college graduates in the various “Liberal Arts” subjects who spend their postgraduate years flipping hamburgers and hopefully applying for drivers’ jobs at U.P.S.” [End Quote]

    Not even UPS (a private corp), but the government. College grads without the connections to get a good entry-level jobs in the private sector, all want to work at the Post office, or be a police officer, or a teacher, or other government job. Only the government seems to have the stability, benefits and decent pay to live a normal middle-class lifestyle, and that’s thanks mostly to the unions.

  50. Ed in Texas on March 20th, 2009 8:14 pm

    RDB,

    I forgot to mention before about an article which I know you’ll like:

    It was from C.J. Maloney and posted on Lew Rockwell-dot-com a few days ago. It’s entitled, “America’s Ivy League College: The Dumba$$ Factory.” I know you’ll get a kick out of it. I haven’t had that good a chuckle in ages. Should be an easy search from within the LRC website.

    Ed in Texas

  51. RDB on March 20th, 2009 8:20 pm


    Ed in Texas writes:

    “It’s not conjecture or ‘conspiracy theory’ that Ashkenazi Jews are overwhelmingly in control of such stealth-empires. I’ve seen estimates that of the (appx) $500T (that would be “trillion”) that the world is worth, that the Rothschild family has control of a full 3/5ths of it ($300T), with the Rockefellers controlling yet another $100T and with the majority of the remaining $100T owned by yet another 11 so-called mega-elite families. These people – Ashkenazi Jews all – make Bill Gates look like a pauper.”

    Well, if that’s true, we’re screwed, aren’t we? What can be done?

    The only forces on the planet with the ability to confiscate all that Rothschild family cash are the various governments, and do you mean to sit there and write that it would be better to have that financial power in the hands of politicians and bureaucrats rather than under the control of a few Jewish bankers whose chief desire in life seems to be keeping under a Bilderburgian cloak of secrecy and not getting themselves squished like cockroaches?

    I mean, even if they wanted to live lives of platinum-plated luxury, they couldn’t possibly do us as much injury as have Chris Dodd, Barney Frank, Nancy Pelosi, and Barry Soetoro, could they?

    As for being a wargamer…. Hm. Could be one of those signs that we’re both potential domestic terrorists. Still got a “Ron Paul” bumper sticker on your car?

  52. Ed in Texas on March 20th, 2009 8:34 pm

    lmao … yeppers, being the typical Texas redneck rural denizen with the requisite “terrorist marker” stickers plastered all over my dually that I am, I’d be downright incensed if I wasn’t on the “Red List” with at least a few gold stars by my name! ;o)

    Ed

  53. Mary O on March 20th, 2009 8:50 pm

    RDB: “I’m not familiar with their rates of divorce or fatherlessness, but their “societal cohesion” doesn’t look all that different from what was portrayed in that movie *The Gangs of New York* (2002). In the Islamic world, people tend to live in walled compounds, depending upon their families, clans, and tribes for societal and political support. Women are murdered by their menfolk for the sake of “honor,” neighbors are assassinated in the night, and their ability to produce – to create wealth for themselves – is godawful.”

    I didn’t see “Gangs of NY”, but the culture which it portrayed did indeed have structure, and did indeed grow and thrive. The Irish immigrants emerged as a dominant political force in NYC up until about 1920. We won the anti-draft battle in 1863. From what I could tell from the offensive clips, Gangs was just typical anti-White agit-prop. Family, clan and tribes are what it’s all about. Islam is based on a better understanding of human nature than contempory secular humanism.

    You are parroting the standard Jewish “but the Muslims are so mean to women” lies. Consider the recent NYC case of the Jewish attorney shot in the face by her jealous lover. Could a Muslim not argue that “secular humanism” (or whatever you want to call it) causes much more hatred and violence against women than Islam?

    The Left claims that we should weep that Afghani women cannot traipse around publicly in hip-huggers and belly shirts. Far from considering this fact a reason for war, we must consider that part of the reason for their veils and chadors is that their dress is an expression of their contempt for what they see as our imperialist culture.

    Women are not really accepted in American culture except as beasts of burden. We are stuck with all the hard work of the society, and provided with neither protection nor support. The family has become a “do-it-yourself” project for women. Too many White “baby-mommas” never marry. We are sent into combat as if we were nothing more than short guys. We are forced to compete on our own against men, and this situation causes nothing but tension, weakening relationships and marriages. Unless a women attains a position equal to her father’s position, she ends up taking orders from her social inferiors, which is degrading. Or if she (too naively) gets emotionally attached to her coworkers, she will be hurt when she is suddenly downsized, and the “friendships” evaporate into thin air. What do a woman’s feelings matter? In our society, nothing!

    Too many men are turning to the gay lifestyle as a substitute for a meaningful existence. While I do believe that some men are “born” homosexuals, the numbers of homosexual males seem to be grossly disproportionate to what would occur “naturally.” Our whole society is failing, because we don’t want to live according to the restrictions of a religion; but yet we give credence to the Jewish nonsense against Islam.

  54. RDB on March 21st, 2009 1:51 am

    Mary O writes in defense of Islam’s culture (including the treatment of women common therein), argues that the Irish “won” the New York draft riots of 1863 (I’d thought that Lincoln – who sent in combat regiments fresh from the battlefield at Gettysburg to violently suppress the riots – did all the winning in that episode), and that “Too many men are turning to the gay lifestyle as a substitute for a meaningful existence.”

    How we get from Islam to resistance against “Father Abraham” enslaving free men in order to ram protective tariffs down the throats of everybody below the Mason-Dixon Line to American males opting for homosexuality kinda escapes me, but it’s there.

    My point about Islam was intended to give an example – perhaps the most egregious one known – about religion being a factor that impairs purposeful and productive human action. Christianity certainly had qualified (ever wonder why they called it “The Dark Ages”?), and continues to do so in certain more extreme modern sects. Think about the Old Order Amish and the Hutterites as examples, both of which must perforce depend upon “the English” for services requiring education beyond the high-school level.

    Religion’s value as a structuring force is necessarily limited by the fact that religion isn’t based on anything subject to objective proof, and religious faith can be simultaneously fickle as all hell and rigid to the point of bone-headedness.

    Besides, if religion were what it’s cracked up to be, you’d think that Barry Soetoro would’ve at least *noticed* what the Rev. Jeremiah Wright was yammering during those 20 years when our Unconstitutional President was a congregant at Trinity United Church of Christ.

    That man takes the concept of “plausible deniability” way to hellangone beyond the limits of credulence, doesn’t he?

    And the draft resumed in New York City on 19 August 1863.

    As for the Afghani tribes’ treatment of women, I’d thought that the casus belli for sending in SOCOM was the fact that the Taliban government had not only refused to suppress al Quaeda’s use of Afghani territory as bases for training and initiating operations against these United States but also had been knowingly materially aiding the members of al Quaeda in these actions.

    That was sufficient cause for a declaration of war, but neither the Congress nor President Dubbya wanted to do that, damn their unconstitutional eyes.

    If Afghani girls and women come out secondarily the beneficiaries of a necessary “just war” military counterattack overthrowing their country’s Islamic whackjob excuse for a government, that’s incidental no matter what the “Liberal” tree-monkeys try to make of it.

  55. RDB on March 21st, 2009 2:21 am


    Mary O makes a justifiable case about American women:

    “Women are not really accepted in American culture except as beasts of burden. We are stuck with all the hard work of the society, and provided with neither protection nor support. The family has become a ‘do-it-yourself’ project for women. Too many White ‘baby-mommas’ never marry. We are sent into combat as if we were nothing more than short guys. We are forced to compete on our own against men, and this situation causes nothing but tension, weakening relationships and marriages. Unless a women attains a position equal to her father’s position, she ends up taking orders from her social inferiors, which is degrading. Or if she (too naively) gets emotionally attached to her coworkers, she will be hurt when she is suddenly downsized, and the ‘friendships’ evaporate into thin air. What do a woman’s feelings matter? In our society, nothing!

    Callously, I might respond: “Welcome to the life of the American male.”

    Or haven’t you noticed that for the last thirty-odd years we’ve been conditioned by our employers to invest so much emotionally into our jobs that we’ll automatically “take one for the team” if the management screws up and needs a scapegoat?

    If government were not plundering the common American citizen through taxation, regulation, and – especially – currency inflation, the earnings of one adult per family would be enough to ensure a satisfactory quality of life. As it is, however, two adults working full-time is barely adequate to keep a roof over the family’s collective head and food on the table. And the standard of living is definitely declining, not improving. Savings rates for the American family are in the *negative* numbers (meaning we’re borrowed-out rather than saved-up), and this condition is too damned widespread to blame it on cultural problems.

    Only government can impose this kind of suckage.

    As for the Army being compelled by the politicians to put female soldiers into combat arms MOS categories, bear in mind that the combat branches are the “royalty” of the U.S. Army. The opportunities for promotion and pay – especially for officers – really come only with service in the Infantry, Armor/Cavalry, Artillery, and Aviation branches. Well, maybe Signals, too.

    Everyone in the Army admits that women are intrinsically too small and too physically weak to sustain prolonged infantry combat, to crack track, to hump shells. But the Army is vulnerable to “Liberal” politicians. The Marine Corps is much less afflicted, and therefore they keep their B.A.M. types in support roles and out of the rifle platoons.

    But a lot of military jobs *can* be done by women. In our sole unconstitutional military service – the U.S. Air Force – there are plenty of high-tech career paths that don’t require more muscle than brain power, and women do rather well in them. Waste not, want not.

    And if we’re going to talk about the Navy….

    http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&VideoID=3773148

  56. RDB on March 21st, 2009 5:36 am


    If you can hold your nose and set aside the fact that he was born an Ashkenazim, broker and economist Peter Schiff had some extremely uncomfortable remarks to make about the economy on 19 March. The video is accessible thru:

    http://www.lewrockwell.com/schiff/schiff8.html

    Mr. Schiff is extremely critical of Barry Soetoro, observing how “we’re repeating all the mistakes of the 1930s; we might as well repeat the mistakes of the 1970s.”

    If you want a lucid explanation of how government is the cause of this bloody mess – and what needs to happen if we’re ever going to get out of it – this’ll do.

  57. Celt_NJ on March 21st, 2009 3:12 pm

    Hibernian on March 20th, 2009 3:54 pm, Wrote:

    I of aware of at least 4 meetings of Whites currently being planned.

    Not that hard to find if you look.

    ——-

    Why don’t you share the information? Do any of these meetings include Whites coming together for mutual support and help? Anything about fighting for the rights of Whites?

    I can go to a Celtic festival for the same thing as a typical WN meeting. Assuming there is one within 100 miles of me. Food, drink and a lot of White people.

    Let me know when the next meeting is in NJ.

    The Jews, Hispanics, Gays, Blacks, Muslims, Asians, et. al, all have regular meetings in every state on a weekly, even daily basis to promote their groups rights, business contacts and other issues.

    The White has nothing.

  58. Celt_NJ on March 21st, 2009 3:28 pm

    Here’s an interesting vid of how Whites have no organization..

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Gucbo81QRU

  59. New America on March 21st, 2009 4:04 pm

    you wrote:

    The post of New America (above) got chewed by formatting to the point at which much of what’s on the right side of the Web page can’t be read on my CRT. Possibly that’s due to my elderly Windows XP operating system. Sorry.

    But enough of his points were legible to drive some comment in return.

    in reply:
    It’s funny that your computer missed the most salient part of my post, the part that deals DIRECTLY with we are doing at VOR that separates us from the genteel impotence of the Libertarians – a singular focus on the primacy of RACE as a principle of social organization.

    However, for want of a nail…

    you wrote:

    I see him write that:

    “….you will see that most of what we call ‘growth’ is really (1) masked by inflation, (2) accrued to higher and tighter hands, (3) at the expense of the working people who paid the freight, and discover all of the promises made are being broken, even as we speak.”

    Well, that sees partway into the problem. It fails to appreciate the cause of inflation, which is the issue of valuless fiat currency by what serves these United States in lieu of a national bank: the Federal Reserve System.

    in reply:
    The issue of currency valuations notwithstanding – and remember, the fiat currency they used helped the British to defeat Bonaparte, who was trapped on, and in, the “gold standard” – was shifted by you into a discussion of that tired old saw of the Federal Reserve System creating the currency for inflation.

    Of course, this traps you into “creating” ever more amounts of debt-based fiat currency, leading to price inflation, leading to hyperinflatiion, malvaulation of assets, and a financial collapse.

    You missed my larger point; that this leads to a genteel version of class warfare, with the working man laboring ever more, and earning ever less, until his choices are very narrow, indeed.

    And THAT ties into the issue of Race, which the Libertarians like to pretend does not exist, and to which we will get to in a moment.

    you wrote:

    What New America is really complaining about is the fact that real growth in productivity is raided by government. Stolen. This is accomplished either through counterfeiting (those Federal Reserve Notes in your wallet), taxation (robbery at gunpoint), or predation upon the world’s capital markets (Treasury I.O.U.s that promise returns and/or “security” that makes private sector borrowing more costly and more difficult).

    Real growth goes down the rat-hole while our government officers have “gulled, cullied, and diddled” us with spurious figures.

    in reply:
    Funny how you didn’t adress the fact of Jewish control of commanding high points of the entire financial system, adn how the inflation/deflation model is used to liquidate the productive wealth of the country.

    THAT shifts this from being a soft, warm, intellectual exercise in monetary theory to a cold, clear exercise in how people are driven into grinding poverty, as their assets are “marked to market” value of pretty much noting.

    Now, THAT is political power, masked as simple economics.

    Looks like the Jews won the round – for now.

    you wrote:

    Again, as always, the solution is to get government cut down. Harshly.

    in reply:
    No, the solution is to restructure government, which we will have with us until the end of days, to work for all of us, and not just to act as the handmaiden of the Jewish elite.

    you wrote:

    As for the difference between financial capital and “human capital,” there really isn’t any such thing as the latter.

    in reply:
    Actually, there IS such a thing as “human capital,” and it matters much more than the highly fungible Ideal of the Libertarians, financial capital.

    After all, if there was no “human capital,” what value would ther be to “financial capital.”

    And, when you are developing economic models, you discover that currency comes in to play pretty late in the game.

    you wrote:

    The phrase “human capital” is a curious beastliness in and of itself. It treats self-activated human ingenuity and effort as a fungible resource, as if money invested in one PhD. turns out precisely the same return spent to get another doctoral degree.

    in reply:
    Actually, the truth is pretty much the EXACT opposite of your claim.

    No one – least of all those of us with a Positive Theory of RACE – hold that human capital is remotely fungible.

    Indeed, the idea of “human capital” as “fungible” – “Equal,” if you will – is the definition the Jews have for the goyim, the cattle, the animals in human bodies, like all on the planet who are not members of the Jewish RACE.

    I stand diametrically opposed to such,. and so should we all.

    you wrote:

    Moreover, it assumes that “human capital” can be turned to many different uses, as financial capital can. This is not true.

    in reply:
    THAT is the JEWISH definition of “human capital,” and is certainly not mine.

    See above.

    See how being under the influence of Jewish thought, like Libertariansim, has forced you tp accept their terms blindly, without thought, without thinking about them at all?

    you wrote:

    The “human capital” invested in getting a C.P.A. , or a D.M.D., or a law degree, or even board certification in neurosurgery is USELESS if the prevailing government regulatory establishment won’t allow you to practice what you’ve been trained to do.

    in reply:
    I don;t see what this has to do with the discussion.

    If you are talking about the possible inequities in professional licensing, than that is an entirely different issue from what we have been discussing.

    Another governmental limit on human capital might be the de facto licensing of speech – de facto thought control – so-called “hate speech.” which is a Jewish specialty.

    Why do you suppose the Jews want to limit our freedom – and ONLY our freedom – in this manner?

    Think they’re afraid people might start to Wake Up?

    Think they’re afraid the goyim might become the golem?

    Think there’s good reason for that?

    So do I.

    you wrote:

    And try getting a neurosurgeon to do your taxes for you. Disaster.

    in reply:
    Not that I everremotely claimed such a thing, but, again, see above re: ‘fungiblity, ” syn. “equal”

    you wrote:

    Finally, “human capital” serves the goons of government by fooling the gullible into thinking that government spending on education will necessarily return wealth on the “investment.”

    Has this proven true so far? Consider the large number of college graduates in the various “Liberal Arts” subjects who spend their postgraduate years flipping hamburgers and hopefully applying for drivers’ jobs at U.P.S.

    Not really.

    in reply:
    Again, you took two words, misintepreted them, and then ran your Libertarian rocking-horse down the road, only to discover that rocking horses, like Libertarians, go nowhere at all.

    Your entire discussion of “human capital” misses the point entirely, possibly because the larger context was missing.

    RACE.

    The fact is. Henry Ford and Thomas Edison could only have their brilliance come to fruition because they were born in Western Civilization, a Creation of the White RACE.

    The fact is, if they had been born in the Amazon, where, pretty much, all ARE created “equal” – at least, compared to the tribal king – they would not have been Edison, and Ford, and we would all be much poorer off.

    That, come to think of it, is the plan of the Jews, anyway!

  60. RDB on March 22nd, 2009 2:14 am


    Again, the formatting presented on my CRT within New America’s post makes it barely legible to me. Possibly my own fault; I have to keep the resolution at the lowest setting because my eyes aren’t what they used to be.

    The whole notion of a White race as such is kind of puzzling. That would imply that the peoples whose ancestors had migrated into one patch of the Eurasian land mass (and thence into North Africa during the latter stages of the Roman Empire) are the same – racially and culturally – from Norway’s Nordkapp to the blue-eyed Berber tribes’ Atlas Mountains.

    Setting aside “White” for the moment, let’s look at “European.” America is – whether the multiculturalists like it or not – not only a European nation in its basic culture but a *northwestern* European nation. Overwhelmingly British in most ways, with deeper admixtures of Dutch and – especially – German culture throughout.

    If we were entirely British, we’d be drinking top-fermented beers and ales – warm – rather than nice, cold, refreshing bottom-fermented lagers. German style beer.

    Our colleges and universities are even run German-style, with structured lectures rather than by way of the Cambridge-Oxford tutorial system.

    And guess where Horace Mann got the idea to start up government-run, taxpayer-funded, compulsory attendance “public” school systems?

    However many French or Italian or Polish immigrants we’ve received and integrated, the essential culture is out of northwestern Europe, with our political philosophy born in the Enlightenment (*der Aufklärung* among the Krauts).

    Evidence of those cultural roots are visible right here, right now, where we see unabashed racists and a rational anarchist engaged in fairly calm and lucid discourse on political strategy and tactics for getting our present and anticipated future social problems resolved.

    That doesn’t happen except where the influence of the northwestern European Enlightenment runs.

    Over the past couple of decades, “Liberals” – being transnational progressives (aka “Tranzi”) as well as stark, raving fascists – have embraced the notion that geographic accident alone accounts for the fact that after the Middle Ages, the Europeans had pretty much been able to conquer, colonize, and suck the life out of the whole friggin’ world.

    (( Their view, not mine. ))

    This is exemplified in Jared Diamond’s very popular book, *Guns, Germs, and Steel* (1997).

    A much less popular book uttered at about the same time was David Landes’ *The Wealth and Poverty of Nations* (1998). This one goes at the cultural aspects of European society as the real source of the Europeans’ “edge” in the world conquest racket.

    I tend to go with Landes, naturally. Culture is a suite of memes, and memes are infectious. They spread and displace less robust memes, and unless there is active suppression (as, for example, by Saudi Islamic “lifestyle police”) or artificial support for opposing memes (as we see with AFDC making it less noxious for a woman to become a single mother), more viable memes will take over.

    Nowhere is this demonstrated better than on the battlefield. It’s no coincidence that military historians tend overwhelmingly to favor Landes’ rationale instead of Diamond’s. We know what Sepoy-type regiments, trained along European lines and operating under European systems of warfare, kick the living crap out of their close relatives fighting wog-style.

    They don’t have to be White to fight White-style. And win. The fact that former European colonies reverting to independence have become military cripples is due invariably to the fact that their native cultures take over, and these native cultures make for godawful performance on the battlefield. Witness the whole of the Middle East, where Jordan (by copying the Brits) is the best they’ve ever put into the field, and a real Western power – the Israelis – have kicked their butts from the git-go.

    It seems to me that if the White “racial” advantage is cultural, it’s skating on the edge of a major pitfall to call that advantage genetic instead. What has degraded American culture is a mix of 19th Century European memes – those of socialism – and to some much lesser extent the self-destructive memes of certain hammered minority groups, notably American Blacks, who represent one of the most thoroughly and truly rootless screwed-up cultures ever seen on this planet.

    Not much wonder. They’re more of a melange – Ibo, Hausa, Mande, Yoruba, Fulani, Mumbo-Jumbo only knows what else – than the slave army Spartacus took into battle against the Romans. Barely iron-age cultures to begin with, and then shoved together under a few generations of chattel slavery on this continent. They’re a friggin’ mess, race be damned.

    The Blacks’ major malfunction seems to lie in what Johnson’s politically rapacious “War on Poverty” did to facilitate their continued and worsened festering in that kludged-up excuse for a culture they’d had to develop instead of “acting White” and thereby adopting the same successful northwestern European cultural memes that run throughout White America.

    And again, the goddam government did it. Deliberately. The Democrats bought the Black vote by cynically making certain that the Blacks would *never* get off the government’s plantation.

    The way I figure it, we’re never going to get rid of the Blacks. The only way to eliminate whatever threat they pose is to make it impossible for them to continue being culturally second-class citizens. Blacks – like alcoholics and drug addicts – need an “intervention.”

    That’s what Bill Cosby and other real leaders among their ranks have been trying to do, and the “Liberals” have howled like wounded pigs about it.

    Good clue about how that’s exactly what we should be doing.

  61. Mary O on March 22nd, 2009 4:11 am

    RDB: “The Blacks’ major malfunction seems to lie in what Johnson’s politically rapacious “War on Poverty” did to facilitate their continued and worsened festering in that kludged-up excuse for a culture they’d had to develop instead of “acting White” and thereby adopting the same successful northwestern European cultural memes that run throughout White America.”[End Quote]

    You are being a typical Liberal in essentially blaming environment and not genes for Blacks not adapting or learning White culture. DNA determines culture.

    The problem did not begin with the 1960s. Harlem was extremely dangerous for Whites long before then. Even in the 1950s (and probably before) Harlem schools were terrifying to teachers. Students would be pushed out of windows by other students, handicapped students beaten for no reason, teachers raped and so forth.

    And how would your theory about LBJ explain the horrific violence that occurs in Africa? Consider the recent murder of Kate Puzey, for example. Or consider the violence against Whites that occurs in countries like South Africa or Rhodesia.

    Our culture works for us; imposing our culture on other people is wrong because it may not work for them. For example, some Islamic countries have what seem to us rather draconian penalties for breaking the law. We don’t need such penalties, because we believe that people who have committed a crime can be persuaded (intellectually) to choose a better path. The efficacy of intellectual persuasion for us is a product of our unique history and gifts; not every group has our same temperment and values.

    One VNN poster wrote that he wished that Puzeys body would be devoured by hyenas.( LOL) Perhaps the Puzeys were so obsessed with man’s spiritual nature that they went into total denial of man’s animal nature. Did Kate Puzey ever guess that despite her perception of the innocence of the natives that to them she was no more than a representative of an alien subspecies threatening their territory? Unfortunately, she did not look at the big picture in scientific and biological terms, which would actually have been more compassionate in the long term.

  62. RDB on March 22nd, 2009 5:42 am


    Mary O writes:

    “Our culture works for us; imposing our culture on other people is wrong because it may not work for them.”

    If they’re given no alternative – and by that I mean no government support reducing the real cost to them of failing to accommodate to the aforementioned northwestern European style of mainstream culture in these United States – they’ll adapt and “act White” or suffer self-imposed poverty and marginalization.

    This doesn’t mean that the Blacks and Hispanics have to be *forced* to take up the usages of American culture; look at communities like the Old Order Amish (the “Pennsylvania Dutch”) as examples of populations who self-select to be apart and separate.

    But they do so knowingly, paying the price for the choices they make. Blacks have been “buffered” against paying the price through government preferences and other forms of subsidization, and it’s hurting the hell out of them.

    (( If that’s typical “Liberal” rhetoric, Mary O, you’re the lost queen of the Ashanti Empire. ))

    That’s gotta go. For their sake even more for our own.

    As for “the horrific violence that occurs in Africa,” that’s tribal warfare. How do you explain the sack of Béziers (1209), the massacre of Jerusalem (1099), the sack of Magdeburg (1631), and other examples of White Christian forbearance in conflict?

    Africa’s tribal divisions are profound, and they’ve got real problems with what might gently be described as a constellation of “dysfunctional cultures.”

    Much as did European Whites during the Middle Ages. Vandals, Goths, Vikings, Visigoths, Catholics, Protestants, Guelphs and Ghibellines….

    As I remember in a Leonard Wibberly novel about Africa in the 1960s (which I’d read forty-odd years ago), “Before we came, they were eating each other; now that we’re leaving, they’re going back to eating each other.”

    If the traits you abhor are absolutely and thoroughly genetic (and therefore universal in the Black population), there can’t be individual Black people who can adapt to White cultural standards. The existence of such argues against your position, and I’m not sure how you can wish away the fact that such Black people do exist.

    Are we going to get into a Mencken “Sahara of the Bozart” (see http://writing2.richmond.edu/jessid/eng423/restricted/mencken.pdf ) line of argument here?

  63. Ba Racknophobe on March 22nd, 2009 6:08 am

    Edgar Steele is here once again repeating his standard doom rant. Well, it aint gonna happen the way he and many here believe.

    This will happen: First will come economic stagnation or collapse. Second will come hubris and stupidity. Third, probable defeat for the white race.

    When serious hunger strikes you will be willing to offer your services, your wife and daughter, and finally your very life to those who can just feed you in return.

    If you want to know the outcome of a future race war in advance, just ask yourself who is controlling the production and reserves of food today? The same people will rule you in the future. Never mind that you and your survivalist friends have stockpiled canned food that will last two years. The great masses who haven’t will gladly take it away from you and kill you in the process. Oh, you have guns and lots of ammo? Can you kill a thousand people at the same time with those guns? You sure can kill some of them, while the rest storm your home. What then? Just take a wild guess…

    The Jews described in the Bible how they owned “the fat of the land” in ancient Egypt. Martin Luther told us that in medeival Germany it was likewise. Same thing everywhere.

    The founding fathers knew what they were doing, but the present day Americans are alas of another, meeker, kind.

    Here’s the only way you can win this thing: Get decent. Stop playing along with evil. Don’t watch television. Do things instead. Walk in the mountains, sail on the seas, climb rocks. Talk to your kids. Daily.They will appear to not listen, but they’ll soak it in.
    And never mind the Jones.

  64. Susie on March 22nd, 2009 12:28 pm

    Ba Racknophobe,
    Excellent advice. Eliminating T.V., movies, the media propaganda is like eliminating sugar from your diet. It doesn’t take long and you can’t stand the taste of sugar in anything.
    Susie

  65. RDB on March 22nd, 2009 5:19 pm


    I had been referred to this racist rant (and I don’t use those words in any pejorative sense) by a libertarian Web site, and I appreciate having had the opportunity to listen and – especially – to exchange opinions with contributors Mary O, Ed in Texas, and New America.

    While I don’t agree with much of what these posters contend, I think that the exchange demonstrates that its possible for those of us who find ourselves in opposition to the prevailing Boot-On-Your-Neck Party – DemaGOP and Republicrat wings alike – have so much in common that we can set aside most of our differences and thus have the potential to work together.

    If we don’t screw it up, we might at least slow down the progress of the socialist meatgrinder.

    That’s worth a try. Thank you.

  66. Ba Racknophobe on March 22nd, 2009 5:43 pm

    Good advice Susie. Sugar binds calcium and turns it into fat. That same calcium which would have been used for building up your bones and teeth. The older we get. the less capable is the body to use calcium to build bone. Avoiding sugar is a very wise move for everyone and of vital importance for people above the age of 40.

    Let me also add that most sugar substitutes get turned into ordinary sugar by the chemical processes in the body, so you should really avoid them too.

    The process of quitting sugar, in all forms, syrup, icecream, chocolate, Coke, etc is like quitting smoking. You will suffer in the beginning, but after you get used to it you will be glad you quit.

    Even if you lose everything, a sane mind and body will always be ready to pull you out of th darkest holes.

    Wanna know about the future? Here you go:
    Anything can happen!

    So get yourself prepared for Anything.

  67. Mary O on March 22nd, 2009 6:18 pm

    RDB: “If they’re given no alternative – and by that I mean no government support reducing the real cost to them of failing to accommodate to the aforementioned northwestern European style of mainstream culture in these United States – they’ll adapt and “act White” or suffer self-imposed poverty and marginalization.”

    Explain Rhodesia. The Rhodesians are facing starvation because they just don’t have the ability to run large farms. They can’t organize themselves properly; they don’t have and cannot learn the necessary skills, and their cultures don’t support any type of collective productive effort. No laws, no government policies and no education programs could possibly save them; nor is any government policy oppressing them or rewarding their poor performance. LBJ (=socio-political environment) is irrelevant:

    Left to themselves, the Rhodesians will probably revert to whatever means of sustenance they had in pre-colonial days; and their population will likely dwindle. But how is that way of life any less valid than having huge modern cities, formalized employment and our social ideals? Why should we force everyone into our mold? Biologically, primitive societies may actually have an edge as far as survival should the earth be hit with an asteroid or other such catastrophe occur. Could we just leave them alone?

    Plus, I also oppose imperialist wars. If we have our nations (or even neighborhoods); similarly, nonwhite peoples should have their territory, too. “To each his own.”

    BTW: I am not arguing that only Blacks are violent. All human beings can be violent; however, the nature and frequency of Black violence is the problem. White boys may get into occasional fights, but rarely do they ever put someone in the hospital or kill someone.

    Our abhorrence of violence is an important aspect of our culture. Is it possible that other groups don’t really mind it so much? In that case, again, would it not be wiser to just allow separation?

  68. RDB on March 22nd, 2009 10:24 pm


    Writes Mary O:

    “Explain Rhodesia.”

    Best I can figure, it’s not Rhodesia but rather the Shona tribe (with the bloody suppression of minority tribes, especially the Matabele in the Gukurahundi from 1982 through 1985) we’re talking about. The political parties in Zimbabwe have been organized more or less along tribal lines, with the Shona dominating the “permanent majority” party, Mugabe’s ZANU-PF.

    Tribal warfare, just like everywhere else in Africa.

    With a whole bunch of socialism, of course. Notice that big, honking red star on the flag and in the national coat-of-arms?

    Nothing like socialism to really screw the life out of an economy.

  69. Mary O on March 22nd, 2009 11:03 pm

    RDB: “The political parties in Zimbabwe have been organized more or less along tribal lines, with the Shona dominating the “permanent majority” party, Mugabe’s ZANU-PF.” [end quote]

    The Whites ran huge farms which not only fed the former-Rhodesia, but also fed much of Africa. Now most of the Whites have been driven out, and their land has been confiscated and given to Blacks. Whites who remain are in danger of violent attack. Mere tribalism doesn’t work as an explanation, because White “tribes” would surely find a way to get those farms working if threatened with hunger. White Socialists too would also find a way to avert starvation.

    In your anti-Liberal position, you are quick to heap all of the blame on LBJ; but the problems long pre-existed Johnson, and manifest themselves in every multicultural society in the world today. Do you really believe that if we got rid of all socialist elements of our government that Blacks would then strive to be “White”? Not to defend Johnson, but he was reacting to urban rioting in every major city. Would we not instead see a return to rioting, and if we continue to flood our country with third-world immigrants, esp. in a weak economy, will not see mass rioting just anyway?

    Your comment regarding the Amish and other groups suggest that you do not entirely oppose the concept of separatism. Also, your thanks for our comments are appreciated. You are right that we have some common goals. Thank you for your comments, and that interesting link on Maryland.

  70. New America on March 22nd, 2009 11:07 pm

    in reply to RDB:

    you wrote:

    The whole notion of a White race as such is kind of puzzling. That would imply that the peoples whose ancestors had migrated into one patch of the Eurasian land mass (and thence into North Africa during the latter stages of the Roman Empire) are the same – racially and culturally – from Norway’s Nordkapp to the blue-eyed Berber tribes’ Atlas Mountains.

    in reply:
    Our RACIAL Enemies have no such problem with, not only the “notion” of a “White Race,” but the cold, hard, Reality of a Race that, ALONE of all Races, look UP, and builds the Path to the Stars.

    Their anger, their sheer, unadulterated envy, is difficult for them to describe.

    So, they do all in their power to destroy us, on all possible levels, even while wanting desperately to BE us, to live where we live, to live in the cities only we can build, but they can so easily destroy.

    So, the common “culture” that you do not see might be, in fact, a Spenglerian metaculture, which adopts the most appropriate forms for the conditions in which it finds itself.

    The proper name for this Spenglerian metaculture would be “Western Civilization.”

    At the very heart of Western Civilization, so far as I am concerned, we have Christ, always acting. where possible, to shift our focus beyond the Family to the Tribe, the Tribe to the Nation, and, above all, in the pursuit of ever-greater degrees of abstract thought (the definition of “intelligence”) for one generation, followed by the transformation of those abstract concepts into working models of what makes the world a better place.

    BETTER.

    If there is a better synonym for what the White Race, bearers of Western Civilization, does, I am not aware of it.

    Why do all other Races want to live in the cities we built, and send their children to the schools we manage?

    Ours are BETTER, and they know it.

    Don’t see the Jews in Israel – a Failed State, absent massive American support – making plans to move to, say, Rhodesia, when Tel Aviv falls, do you?

    There’s a reason for that.

    you wrote:

    Setting aside “White” for the moment, let’s look at “European.” America is – whether the multiculturalists like it or not – not only a European nation in its basic culture but a *northwestern* European nation. Overwhelmingly British in most ways, with deeper admixtures of Dutch and – especially – German culture throughout.

    If we were entirely British, we’d be drinking top-fermented beers and ales – warm – rather than nice, cold, refreshing bottom-fermented lagers. German style beer.

    Our colleges and universities are even run German-style, with structured lectures rather than by way of the Cambridge-Oxford tutorial system.

    And guess where Horace Mann got the idea to start up government-run, taxpayer-funded, compulsory attendance “public” school systems?

    However many French or Italian or Polish immigrants we’ve received and integrated, the essential culture is out of northwestern Europe, with our political philosophy born in the Enlightenment (*der Aufklärung* among the Krauts).

    Evidence of those cultural roots are visible right here, right now, where we see unabashed racists and a rational anarchist engaged in fairly calm and lucid discourse on political strategy and tactics for getting our present and anticipated future social problems resolved.

    That doesn’t happen except where the influence of the northwestern European Enlightenment runs.

    in reply:
    Franklin was quite disparaging of how well the Germans in Pennsylvania were doing, and a lot of what you describe came from the transformation of the Leibniziain Model into a tool of social development by Bismarck.

    Lincoln’s economist, Henry Carey, was quite the supporter of the *ahem* “National Socialist” model of Bismarck, and we see many of those institutions have been successfully adopted in America over the last century, in the guise of “Progressivism.”

    (How well this has been accomplished, and for what precise ends, is a topic for another time.)

    The part of America that most enthusiastically adopted the British model – and the subsequent social and economic stagnation – died at Appomattox, in 1865.

    Incidentally, what parasitic force has acted as a circuit breaker to stop us from further harnessing these ideals to ever greater rights, and an ever-higher standard of living?

    you wrote:

    Over the past couple of decades, “Liberals” – being transnational progressives (aka “Tranzi”) as well as stark, raving fascists – have embraced the notion that geographic accident alone accounts for the fact that after the Middle Ages, the Europeans had pretty much been able to conquer, colonize, and suck the life out of the whole friggin’ world.

    (( Their view, not mine. ))

    This is exemplified in Jared Diamond’s very popular book, *Guns, Germs, and Steel* (1997).

    in reply:
    Somehow, putting Somalis in Oslo doesn’t REALLY make them Norwegians, just as putting kittens in a cold oven does not make them biscuits.

    you wrote:

    A much less popular book uttered at about the same time was David Landes’ *The Wealth and Poverty of Nations* (1998). This one goes at the cultural aspects of European society as the real source of the Europeans’ “edge” in the world conquest racket.

    I tend to go with Landes, naturally. Culture is a suite of memes, and memes are infectious. They spread and displace less robust memes, and unless there is active suppression (as, for example, by Saudi Islamic “lifestyle police”) or artificial support for opposing memes (as we see with AFDC making it less noxious for a woman to become a single mother), more viable memes will take over.

    in reply:
    Yet, that “culture” requires a high quality of soil, if you will, for the “seeds” of the ideas., the memes, to take root, and flower.

    So, while “culture” – I’ll stick with your definition for the moment – is part of the battle, the greater battle is between memes and genes.

    All of Western Culture simply can not function in the raw genetic material it is offered from Africa, or the Mestizo.

    So, memes develop, in and WITH the culture that most suits their further growth, transformation, and development.

    The greater battle occurs at all times, where the people of the culture know it, or not, or whether they like it, or not.

    Better RACE – better CULTURE – better IDEAS – and the virtuous circle expands.

    First and foremost, better RACE.

    That’s us!

    you wrote:

    Nowhere is this demonstrated better than on the battlefield. It’s no coincidence that military historians tend overwhelmingly to favor Landes’ rationale instead of Diamond’s. We know what Sepoy-type regiments, trained along European lines and operating under European systems of warfare, kick the living crap out of their close relatives fighting wog-style.

    They don’t have to be White to fight White-style. And win. The fact that former European colonies reverting to independence have become military cripples is due invariably to the fact that their native cultures take over, and these native cultures make for godawful performance on the battlefield. Witness the whole of the Middle East, where Jordan (by copying the Brits) is the best they’ve ever put into the field, and a real Western power – the Israelis – have kicked their butts from the git-go.

    in reply:
    All too true.

    And, I suspect graduates of the Ryazan Military Academy may well have been helping 16 year olds with Kalashnikovs (and Cornets) force Israel to abandon the crown jewel of IMI, the Merkava.

    Again, implicitly, really good Western European military thinkers, and leadership.

    you wrote:

    It seems to me that if the White “racial” advantage is cultural, it’s skating on the edge of a major pitfall to call that advantage genetic instead.

    in reply:
    Only one set of genes can make that Culture work, much less allow the MetaCulture room to help guide them forward, to higher, righter, and brighter ground.

    Up, up, and away!

    This isn’t the place to discuss the science of epigenetics, the science of how culture becomes encoded in the genes.

    A good primer for that topic is “Nature Via Nurture,” by Matt Ridley.

    Note – the SCIENCE of epigenetics.

    you wrote:

    What has degraded American culture is a mix of 19th Century European memes – those of socialism – and to some much lesser extent the self-destructive memes of certain hammered minority groups, notably American Blacks, who represent one of the most thoroughly and truly rootless screwed-up cultures ever seen on this planet.

    in reply:
    And just what Racial group is responsible for this?

    The 19th Century Germanic model of “national socialism” worked because it had the fertile raw material of the German people to work with, and such guiding lights as Goethe, and Leibniz.

    They, in turn, made it possible to create a system that allowed the development of such incredible intellects as Mach, Gauss, Heisenberg, well, the list goes on.

    We should try something like that over here.

    Given the connotations the term “National Socialism” has, perhaps the more appropriate model for us should be “National Capitalism, Natural Socialism.”

    you wrote:

    Not much wonder. They’re more of a melange – Ibo, Hausa, Mande, Yoruba, Fulani, Mumbo-Jumbo only knows what else – than the slave army Spartacus took into battle against the Romans. Barely iron-age cultures to begin with, and then shoved together under a few generations of chattel slavery on this continent. They’re a friggin’ mess, race be damned.

    in reply:
    They (American Blacks) are a “friggn’ mess,” and their RACE insures it will remain that way, regardless of the kindness of strangers.

    Are there exceptions?

    Yes, just as the basic laws of statistics claim there would be.

    And they are so exceptional, they literally PROVE the rule.

    you wrote:

    The Blacks’ major malfunction seems to lie in what Johnson’s politically rapacious “War on Poverty” did to facilitate their continued and worsened festering in that kludged-up excuse for a culture they’d had to develop instead of “acting White” and thereby adopting the same successful northwestern European cultural memes that run throughout White America.

    in reply:
    All the “War on Poverty” did to the Blacks would be to insure that they would always – ALWAYS – be little more than political pawns, at best.

    Hence, note how the “War on Poverty” created a new Black electorate, allowing Democrats control of the cities, while doing little, if anything, for the politically dispossessed Whites of the South, in general, and, for example, Appalachia, in particular.

    you wrote:

    And again, the goddam government did it. Deliberately. The Democrats bought the Black vote by cynically making certain that the Blacks would *never* get off the government’s plantation.

    in reply:
    Is that the Jewish controlled Johnson Administration?

    Well, I could not agree with you any more.

    you wrote:

    The way I figure it, we’re never going to get rid of the Blacks. The only way to eliminate whatever threat they pose is to make it impossible for them to continue being culturally second-class citizens. Blacks – like alcoholics and drug addicts – need an “intervention.”

    That’s what Bill Cosby and other real leaders among their ranks have been trying to do, and the “Liberals” have howled like wounded pigs about it.

    Good clue about how that’s exactly what we should be doing.

    in reply:
    All of our “interventions” have accomplished nothing, save to raise the aspirations of the American Blacks to “equality” – State mandated and controlled “equality,” but “equality,” nonetheless.

    All in all, a spectacular waste of time, money, and effort.

    Think that might be a fitting epitaph for the Obama Presidency?

    Wonder why?

    Neither do I.

  71. Nicolae on March 23rd, 2009 6:47 pm

    Wake up you stupid americans,can’t you see that the jews are taking you to the same path as they did with Germany?Those criminal CHAZARS from the SYNAGOGUE OF SATAN(Revelation 2:9,,3:9)will destroy your country.REVELATION 18 IS THE END OF AMERICA BY NUCLEAR WEAPONS<FIRE< The jews are not God chosen people…PLEASE WAKE UP AND READ ..ZECHARIAH 2:1,,,2:2,,,2:3,,,2:4 List Of Zionist Crime Syndicate
    Organizations In The USA
    From John Churchilly
    3-23-9

    Ameinu
    American Friends of Likud
    American Gathering/Federation of Jewish Holocaust Survivors
    America-Israel Friendship League
    American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC)
    American Jewish Committee
    American Jewish Congress
    American Jewish Joint Distribution Committee
    American Sephardi Federation
    American Zionist Movement
    Americans for Peace Now
    AMIT
    Anti-Defamation League (ADL)
    Association of Reform Zionists of America
    B’nai B’rith International
    Bnai Zion
    Central Conference of American Rabbis
    Committee for Accuracy in Middle East Reporting in America
    State of Israel Bonds/Development Corporation for Israel
    Emunah of America
    Friends of Israel Defense Forces
    Hadassah, the Women’s Zionist Organization of America
    Hebrew Immigrant Aid Society
    Jewish Community Centers Association
    Jewish Council for Public Affairs
    Jewish Institute for National Security Affairs
    Jewish Labor Committee
    Jewish National Fund
    Jewish Reconstructionist Federation
    Jewish War Veterans of the United States of America (JWV)
    Jewish Women International
    MERCAZ USA, Zionist Organization of the Conservative Movement
    NA’AMAT USA
    NCSJ Advocates on behalf of Jews in Russia, Ukraine, the Baltic States & Eurasia
    National Council of Jewish Women
    National Council of Young Israel
    World ORT – ORT America branch
    Rabbinical Assembly (RA)
    Rabbinical Council of America (RCA)
    Religious Zionists of America (RZA or Mizrahi)
    Union for Reform Judaism (URJ)
    Union of Orthodox Jewish Congregations of America (Orthodox Union or OU)
    United Jewish Communities (UJC)
    United Synagogue of Conservative Judaism (USCJ)
    Women’s International Zionist Organization (WIZO)
    Women’s League for Conservative Judaism (WLCJ)
    Women of Reform Judaism (WRJ)
    Workmen’s Circle (Arbeter Ring)
    World Zionist Executive, US
    Zionist Organization of America (ZOA)

    And here is the good bit …

    Every organisation above is ALSO a member of what is called :

    “The Conference of Presidents of Major American Jewish Organisations”

    The Conference of Presidents of Major American Jewish Organizations (CoP; often referred to as the Presidents’ Conference) is a “non-profit organisation” that describes itself as “a central address for key American, Israeli and other world leaders to consult on issues of critical concern to the Jewish community.” The Conference meets to make major statements or meet with important leaders. The Conference was founded to promote the state of Israel in the USA and that remains its primary task.

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