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Listener Comments, Mar. 2009

March 2, 2009

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  1. Reck~Less, Abandon on March 2nd, 2009 5:50 pm

    While at the bank I noticed a Chinese woman was getting rather irritated with the teller. She asked the patient man “Why I come in here yestaday and you give me 200 dorras fol my yen, but today you onry give me 180?” He explained to her “Fluctuations.”. She responded “Oh yeah? Well fluc you white people too!”

  2. Reck~Less, Abandon on March 2nd, 2009 5:51 pm

    A very tired nurse walks into a bank, Totally exhausted after an 18-hour shift. Preparing to write a check, She pulls a rectal thermometer out of her purse And tries to write with it. When she realizes her mistake, She looks at the flabbergasted teller And without missing a beat, she says: ‘Well, that’s great….that’s just great…. Some asshole’s got my pen!’

  3. maurice on March 2nd, 2009 6:00 pm

    what happened with:
    http://www.catholicvoice.co.uk /
    and
    http://www.wakeupfromyourslumb er.com ???

  4. maurice on March 2nd, 2009 8:16 pm

    yes my friends, it is starting…

    http://mauricepinay.blogspot.com/2009/03/catholicvoicecouk-hounded-off-internet.html

    catholicvoice.co.uk Hounded Off the Internet

    This news came by email:

    Just to let you know that Catholic Voice has temporarily been hounded off the Internet by 8 British MPs led by John Mann, chairman of the All Party Parliamentary Committee on Anti-Semitism. The libellous Early Day Motion raised by them in the House of Commons last Thursday can be found here. My ISP caved in to their complaint immediately, so I’m left looking for a new web host if I’m ever to get back on line.

    Regards,

    Timothy Johnson

    Early Day Motion
    EDM 917

    ANTI-SEMITISM ON THE INTERNET
    26.02.2009

    Mann, John

    That this House notes the vile and anti-Semitic nature of the website http://www.catholicvoice.co.uk; notes that it is run by a known fascist and seeks to inspire hate against the Jewish community amongst others; understands that according to Nominet’s WHOIS service it is based in the United Kingdom through ISP provider Plusnet in contradiction with that organisation’s own hosting policies and remains available to be viewed by the world; calls on Plusnet to stop hosting the website content; and calls for the domain name to be revoked and believes that those who are writing, commissioning and uploading vile hate speech should face the full force of the law.

    http://edmi.parliament.uk/EDMi/EDMDetails.aspx?EDMID=37996&SESSION=899

    (was the only place you could find ‘The Plot Against the Church”; maybe is why he is one of the first to kick out)

  5. maurice on March 2nd, 2009 8:40 pm

    EDM 829 LONDON DECLARATION ON COMBATING ANTI-SEMITISM 23.02.2009

    Mann, John
    That this House notes the inaugural conference of the Inter-Parliamentary Coalition on Combating Anti-Semitism, the attendance of 125 parliamentarians from 40 different countries and the resulting London Declaration on Combating Anti-Semitism; believes that anti-Semitism is on the rise, and at the highest levels since records began in the 1980s; supports the recommendation that every country should have comprehensive hate crime legislation where anti-Semitism is treated equally as a racially or religiously motivated crime, incitement to hate laws and prosecutions of those hosting, unloading or commissioning hate on the internet within their jurisdiction; agrees that more should be done to tackle anti-Semitism on university campuses, ensure better reporting and to secure more convictions for the anti-Semitic hate crimes that take place; calls on all politicians to sign the London Declaration on Combating Anti-Semitism and for the Government working group to consider how Britain can best implement the Declaration; and calls for a Council of Ministers meeting on the issue of anti-Semitism.
    http://edmi.parliament.uk/EDMi/EDMDetails.aspx?EDMID=37904&SESSION=899

  6. New America on March 2nd, 2009 9:54 pm

    What a contrast in this thread, between the foolish, banal ranting of Reck-Less, Abandon, and the quiet sense of despair as seen by maurice in his realization that It Has Begun, certainly in England, and the only problem with “1984″ was that it was only slightly ahead of its time.

    This is part and parcel of the attack on Western Civilization, and the only Race that can create Civilization, and these attacks will only increase in power and frequency.

    We are not helpless in all of this, however, unless we choose to be.

  7. Scott on March 2nd, 2009 10:16 pm

    First off, thanks VOR for kicking arse and taking prisoners. Great work to all and not in any specific order: Shank, the Dames, Dietrich and Mish, Prothink, CDN…Faust, Conner and anyone else i may have missed.

    Question though…Prothink, what is the website you referenced in the last show you did? It was a site you said was ran by a Jew who exposes Jews as I recall….

    Thanks.

  8. Blue Collar Brad on March 2nd, 2009 10:45 pm

    I apologize if this is not what this forum is meant to be used for. I was just on another webpage and there happened to be a Christian male on there and they ripped him a new one. This was supposed to be on a WN page. Then there were also remarks putting down Christianity. I understand why there is a huge burn-out when it comes to being an NS/WN. I understand why people do not gravitate to it. Can we declare 2 kinds of lemmings? I think it is time. The first lemming would be the kind that Dr Pierce talked about. The second lemming would be so-called NS/WN that quotes Rockwell or Pierce who uses the jewtube as their media like I’ve been seeing lately. They are just stereotypical, shaved heads, tattoo wearing, beer drinking, amoral, ignorant sounding due to the editing process misfits. Let’s show off our guns and smash in somebody’s skull with our steeled-toed boots.

    I mean really, what blue collar family man with a trade or white collar working man would actually want to jump into all this mess. That’s why I think that Peter Shank’s War of Perception is a pretty reasonable idea. I admire Peter Shank highly. Wow, can you believe that? A White Nationalist admiring another individual for their ideas! Can you believe that another White Nationalist can compliment somebody else’s great ideas? Yes, I think there are 2 kinds of lemmings in this world anymore. I am so glad that Peter Shank is out there. It does give me hope that the average hard working white male that may or may not be a Christian can gravitate to and understand that there isn’t that stereotypical (Jew phrase) White Supremist out there. But there is an intelligent white male, like Peter Shank, that can debate but not slander other White Nationalists and is above the fray of now what I would call the second lemming.

    Food for thought. I want you to sincerely mull this over in your head. Don’t let the jews kill Jesus Christ the second time like they did 2,000 yrs ago, like how they had the Romans end his life. If the jews are so afraid of Christianity, he must be a reality. Don’t let the jews kill Christ a second time. If you think turning the other cheek is such a weak thing, this simply means when 2 white men have a simple disagreement, why end a friendship over foolishness? It does not mean that you can not protect your heritage, family, friends, country.

  9. maurice on March 2nd, 2009 10:57 pm

    Please VOR, somebody could contact Timothy Johnson from ex- catholicvoice.co.uk – maybe is an interesting guest, and talk about why he was Hounded Off the Internet.
    And talk about the book “The Plot Against the Church”.
    Thanks.

  10. New America on March 2nd, 2009 11:51 pm

    in partial reply to Blue Collar Brad:

    You have addressed an issue Pierce addressed, and that is, “Why are low-quality people attracted to the best idea, and the best Ideals, on the face of the Earth?”

    Lemming Type One is essentially ignorant, and pretty happy, for now. He sees Race in a narrow, materialistic manner, and that is that.

    And that’s fine.

    When it’s his time to catch on, he will catch on. All he will need is a socially acceptable Analytical Framework to begin building on, and the Restoration of Civilization certainly seems to win first prize.

    Lemming Type Two are the failures you have so aptly described; adopting the Forms of the Elite of the recent past, with none of the Substance that made their contributions to Western Civilization possible, they were losers wen they came, and they will be losers when they leave.

    The sum total of their accomplishments is exactly zero, and that’s if we’re lucky; all too often, the sum total of their accomplishments is a negative number.

    So, weak, confused, inept and incompetent, they adopt the Forms of Competency and Disciplined Power that send out two simple messages: (1) I’m not like you, and (2) I’m really better than you.

    The swastikas they wear, of course, derive from Meanings they can not begin to comprehend.

    In effect, they are overcompensating for their lack of Substance.

    They also lock themselves out of a world in which they see themselves as having no place, today, and no future, tomorrow.

    Remember, Rockwell was preparing to stop using the brownshirt/red swastika armband combination. It had fulfilled its purpose as shock treatment. Note that at Brown, he dressed in the suit of a professional businessman.

    THAT was the direction he was seeking for his organization.

    The Second Lemmings attack physically because they are simply disarmed in the battle of Ideas, the battle for the control of your mind.

    Hence, they retreat – into mere physical assault, which (1) does nothing good for The Cause, and (2) places them in jail, or prison.

    Peter made the strongest observation about them, and the most astute observation, when he noticed that they do more good for our Enemies than they ever do for us.

    What we CAN do is work purposefully in building better lives for our selves, and our Families. In time, this will manifest as building the better world only OUR Race can Create, and develop.

  11. Reck~Less, Abandon on March 2nd, 2009 11:59 pm

    Hear here Brad!
    Thanks for taking the time to express your self over here. People do grow/know, thanks to Dietrich, Mark & PETER’s net work. Oh, and Mike too. Great Work guy’s!

  12. Reck~Less, Abandon on March 3rd, 2009 12:45 am

    Stimulus bill gives $1 billion to Jewish social service:

    providershttp://jta.org/news/article/2009/02/17/1003063/stimulus-bill-gives-1-billion-to-jewish-social-service-providers

  13. New America on March 3rd, 2009 1:23 am

    in partial reply to Blue Collar Brad (2):

    Your examples – of our misfits whose attempts to carry forward their model of White Nationalism continually misfires – calls forth two ideas which have been discussed here in the past.

    One, the question asked on an old VNN FTL by Brisesis, asks why so many of the young men who The Cause attracts are, well, such failures as Men?

    I’ve addressed that, at least in part, on this site.

    Two, the large issue is the development of a Positive Analytical Framework for Race, which is simple a review of the greatest Culture the world has ever known, Western Civilization – something ONLY the White RACE could Create, and develop.

    I’m coming around to the Idea that we, of the Racially Conscious Community (to use Harold Covington’s formulation), have never made the transition from Cause to Movement because we have always set our sights too low.

    The two people who have done most of the thinking in this area – and I shall steal their ideas in this post – are Harold Covington, author of the Northwest Quadrology, and Kevin Alfred Strom.

    Most everyone else – like the failed almost-Men you mentioned, and I briefly discussed above – always looked to the past, and put all of their attention on the rear-view mirror, pretty much to the exclusion of looking out the front window at all, much less looking out to the horizon.

    The FACT is, if, say, Hitler returned, he would be wearing the same clothes as Obama – custom tailored Hart, Schaffner, and Marx three-piece suits, and he would be using a different set of Symbols to speak to the Spirit of his people. The swastika had one meaning, and, certainly compared to its predecessor, was a masterful example of clean and modern design.

    The FACT is, if Hitler returned, he would demonstrate excellent manners, at all times, and among all classes. He would speak to the needs of the audience before him at the moment, at all times referencing the greater Issues he was concerned with.

    In short, he would probably join local Democratic or Republican parties, and learn – they offer free schools in this – the nuts and bolts of actual political campaigning.

    He would go to school and better himself – from Adult Ed to Oxford, and all necessary points in-between.

    He would *ahem* Focus On The Family in all of his speeches, and emphasize how his ideal social order would be a much better place for the Families of the society.

    Nothing stops any of us from doing any of this.

    As Peter Schaenk said so succinctly, and so well:

    Imagine what you could do if they weren’t there – the Jews, the Illegals, whatever – and ask yourself why you aren’t doing that now.

    Ignore the Losers, and see yourself as the Light of the West, moving forward, and making wherever you are a better place, and a Homeland for your Family, and your Race.

    Here’s a basic question:

    What would YOU choose as the Symbol for the Movement?

    Go from there!

  14. New America on March 3rd, 2009 2:16 am

    Blue Collar Brad has raised an issue I would like to address at greater length – why we have always set our sights too low, and what could, and should, be done about it, in light of one VOR decision.

    I can not speak as to why VOR decided not to host the American Dissident Voices of Dr. William Pierce. I would not host them for various issues around property rights, but that’s me.

    I supported this choice for a different reason.

    I am tired of taking the Ideas of yesterday, and simply parroting them as if they were a Sacred text from some near-Divine Being.

    More to the point, I would prefer we take advantage of the opportunity to speak in our own voices about the issues of the day. This would help us to mature in our abilities and disciplines, and we need that, if we are to succeed where those who came before us – like Dr. Pierce – failed.

    I admire and respect the great good Dr. Pierce did, but I was, and remain, critical of the fact that he never made plans for any sort of effective political organization, even in nascent form, and he never made plans for his death.

    Thus, Pierce’s National Alliance, the work of a lifetime, quickly became a mockery of what it could have been.

    VOR and Pierce’s Vision do have this much in common:

    Both are speaking to the best ONE PERCENT of our People who are remotely ready to listen.

    THIS time, we must make sure our goals exceed what we can even imagine.

    For my purpose, in such time as i have left, I am focused totally on doing what I can to see that my immediate Posterity begins to walk “Toward The Stars, ” so THEIR Posterity may walk in our TRUE homeland, “Among the Stars.”

  15. Anonymous on March 3rd, 2009 3:58 am

    Paganism = woman’s religion.

  16. Dietrich on March 3rd, 2009 9:30 am

    Anon, Christianity appealed to the women and slaves and not to the men (until the generational magic of women having access to the children for the first fifteen years, thus raising them however they liked, ie: Christian). Christianity is eastern and feminine in relation to the pagan practices of of the ancient world.

    One famous example is found in the story of the conversion of the Duchess of Olga. When she tried to get her son to convert, her son’s retinue lol’d at the notion, as if to say, “Yeah, and while you’re at it, put on these panties.”

    Only after getting more direct translations of, for instance, the Pauline Epistles did I understand why. Holy crap, it may as well have been written in crayon! Seriously, the NT was originally written in the Greek of a school child! No wonder only barely literate women and slaves liked it. Having been raised with the KJV, I would’ve never known it, as that makes literature out of scribble, but is *highly* inaccurate.

  17. maurice on March 3rd, 2009 10:04 am

    here we go again… pagans versus Christians…

  18. Dietrich on March 3rd, 2009 11:20 am

    I am neither, only interested in the historical perspective, and saying that paganism is feminine in relation to Christianity is getting it exactly backwards.

  19. whodareswings on March 3rd, 2009 12:34 pm

    Write a Letter for Freedom of Speech!

    By Arthur Topham
    March 1, 2009

    Dear Free Speech Lover,

    I, Arthur Topham and my website http://www.RadicalPress.com are in the midst of a legal battle with the League for Human Rights of B’nai Brith Canada over the issue of freedom of speech.

    On November 20, 2007 I received confirmation from the Canadian Human Rights Commission (CHRC) that the League for Human Rights of B’nai Brith Canada (BBC) and its British Columbia representative, Harry Abrams, had co-joined to file a “complaint” with the CHRC on August 14, 2007 citing the infamous “Section 13” of the Canadian Human Rights Act, a specious and vague piece of legislation which states:

    13. (1) It is a discriminatory practice for a person or a group of persons acting in concert to communicate telephonically or to cause to be so communicated, repeatedly, in whole or in part by means of the facilities of a telecommunication undertaking within the legislative authority of Parliament, any matter that is likely to expose a person or persons to hatred or contempt by reason of the fact that that person or those persons are identifiable on the basis of a prohibited ground of discrimination. [bold mine]

    As this legislation was not all-inclusive enough for the “entrapment” purposes which the Zionist lobbies had in mind, immediately following the 9/11 attack and Canada’s hastily formulated Anti-terrorism Act, c.41 (passed December 18th, 2001) they were able to successfully lobby for the additional inclusion into Sec. 13(1) of the following “Interpretation(2)” which reads:

    Interpretation
    (2) For greater certainty, subsection (1) applies in respect of a matter that is communicated by means of a computer or a group of interconnected or related computers, including the Internet, or any similar means of communication, but does not apply in respect of a matter that is communicated in whole or in part by means of the facilities of a broadcasting undertaking. [bold mine]

    This Interpretation(2) of Sec. 13(1) was precisely what the League for Human Rights of B’nai Brith Canada and the Canadian Jewish Congress were waiting for. Now they had the legal pretext within which they could begin their assault upon any individual or group or website which they felt was a threat to the national interests of the state of Israel or its ideology, Zionism.

    Using Section 13(1) and its Interpretation(2), B’nai Brith Canada stated in its complaint to the CHRC:

    “The premise of this complaint is a contention that Arthur Topham and Radicalpress.com contrive to promote ongoing hatred affecting persons identifiable as Jews and/or as citizens of Israel.” [bold is mine]

    In other words, these Jewish Lobby groups feel that it should be a “hate crime” to criticize a the foreign nation known as Israel. That is the unique precedent they are hoping to establish in this complaint to the CHR Commission.

    The basis for the B’nai Brith Canada complaint was a series of 18 articles posted on RadicalPress.com. For purposes of this request I am short-listing an assortment of those cited below. Anyone wishing to see the full list can do so by going to the following url on the site and scrolling down. See http://www.radicalpress.com/?p=821 .

    LIST OF ARTICLES USED IN B’NAI BRITH COMPLAINT TO CHRC:

    http://www.radicalpress.com/?page_id=521
    THE PROTOCOLS OF THE LEARNED ELDERS OF ZION

    http://www.radicalpress.com?p=477
    B’nai B’rith: Beating the anti-Semitic Drum
    By Arthur Topham

    http://www.radicalpress.com?p=468
    Nationwide: Racist Me
    By Chris Cook

    http://www.radicalpress.com?p=463
    Let’s Talk About Jews And Elections
    By Curt Maynard

    http://www.radicalpress.com?p=459
    The Seeds of Global Tyranny
    By Arthur Topham

    http://www.radicalpress.com?p=397
    Judaism is Nobody’s Friend
    By Mark Glenn

    http://www.radicalpress.com?p=380
    Elie Wiesel’s Holocaust Tale
    By Eric Hunt

    http://www.radicalpress.com?p=260
    Judaism: A Conspiracy Against Jews, Humanity?
    By Henry Makow

    http://www.radicalpress.com?p=346
    The Many Masks of Zionism
    By Arthur Topham

    The complaint was accepted by the CHRC and has moved through a series of stages culminating in a decision to pass it on to the Canadian Human Rights Tribunal (CHRT). Thanks to Sec. 13(1) and its Interpretation(2) these two quasi-judicial bodies – the commission and tribunal – now form what is, in essence, the yin and yang of Canada’s latest instrument of Internet censorship – one initially and supposedly designed to protect the rights of visible minorities and handicapped workers in the labour market – but now, thanks to 9/11 and the legal machinations of the pro-Zionist Lobby groups in Canada like B’nai Brith Canada, the Canadian Jewish Congress and the Simon Weisenthal Center, these two former bureaucratic organizations have shape-shifted into a lethal weapon designed to kill, via coercive, unjust legislation, Canada’s supreme right to freedom of speech on the net.

    The current Tribunal stage involves holding a public hearing during which the complainant(s) and the respondent (myself and RadicalPress.com) will be given the opportunity to present our respective arguments.

    As part of my defense I will be presenting a portfolio of letters from Internet users, both in Canada and around the world, who support the inherent right of all Canadians to freedom of speech on the Internet.

    It goes without saying that the Internet, being an anarchic construct from its inception, knows neither centralized authority nor national boundaries thus providing an open and accessibility global forum and library in terms of freedom of information and the ability to express ones opinions in an atmosphere of neutrality and non-coercion.

    But this once sacred domain is no longer safe and without immediate action by the blogosphere and Internet users in general its fate is to become more and more restricted and controlled by the Zionist forces now in control of all the rest of the world’s mainstream media.

    Time is of the essence. I have until March 20th, 2009 to submit a Statement of Particulars to the Tribunal which is a description of the material facts that I intend to use in support of my arguments to have this vexatious charge thrown out. An important part of that evidence will be the letters of support submitted in my favour and in support of freedom of speech on the net.

    So please, if you are concerned about this imminent threat to Internet censorship and the loss of freedom of speech in Canada then please take the time to scan the articles being attacked by B’nai Brith Canada, as well as others that are on the RadicalPress.com website and if you disagree with Sec. 13(1) then please write a letter to the Tribunal stating so.

    Also, it is very important that you send me a cc copy of your letter at radical@radicalpress.com . It should be understood that in writing such a letter one ought to be civil and refrain from excessive and aggressive language. I will, in turn, use them in my struggle to help defeat this attack upon our most basic and cherished right as human beings living in a free society.

    Please address your letter in support of RadicalPress.com and Freedom of Speech to:

    Nancy Lafontant
    Registry Officer
    Canadian Human Rights Tribunal
    Nancy.Lafontant@chrt-tcdp.gc.ca

    Please refer to File Number: T1360/9008

    CC a copy of your letter to:

    RadicalPress.com
    radical@radicalpress.com

    Thank you for supporting Freedom of Speech in Canada. If you have any further questions regarding this matter please feel free to write me at radical@radicalpress.com .

    Shine your Light for Love & Peace & Justice for All,

    Arthur Topham
    Pub/Ed
    The Radical Press
    Canada’s Radical News Network
    radical@radicalpress.com
    http://www.radicalpress.com
    “Digging to the root of the issues since 1998”
    ——————————————————

  20. New America on March 3rd, 2009 7:30 pm

    Just saw the latest trailer for Terminator Salvation, and it really has ideas we can use.

    Here’s one – and the idea of Mankind fighting “flesh-covered machines” is one we will review at a later time.

    There’s a short intro, and it is not going well for Mankind at all. The scene shifts to Christian Bale, and has him saying this:

    “This is John Connor. If you’re listening to this, you’re part of the Resistance.”

    Why not see if “Geoff Beck” is around, and have him do a quick soliloquy like this:

    “This is the Voice of Reason Network, I’m Geoff Beck, and if you are listening to this, you are part of the Resistance, whether you know it or not, whether you like it or not.

    Our battle is for the future of the gift that gave you the highest standard of living, and the greatest degree of personal freedom, in the history of the world, Western Civilization, and the only Race that could Create, sustain, and enhance Western Civilization, the White RACE.

    Our Revolution is really the transformational process of Evolution sped up, and directed by us, for a higher purpose, a greater Cause, than we can imagine.

    Our Racial Enemies, the Asiatic Hive Mind known as the Jews, took over what America was without firing a shot, through controlling the pictures we saw, and the words we read, and heard.

    We can take it back, the same way; take it back, and make it better, using the same tools the Jews did.

    Remember, for all of those who complain about the White Race, they do so while enjoying the Created Gifts only the White Race could Create – everything from written Constitutions with formal checks, balances, and guarantees of inalienable rights, to electricity, the internal combustion engine, and the power to send Man to the Moon, and bring him back, solely because we, alone, thought to do so and chose to do so.

    We have the best tools of all – better Ideas, better Ideals, and the Creative Power to make them the Living Foundation of a much better world, for our Children, our Posterity.

    And we need you to join with us.”

    More to follow, but think about this:

    Why not have such a soliloquy done with different voices, particularly the voices of ladies, with different accents? An educated Southern drawl from a Southern lady will certainly get a hearing!

  21. New America on March 3rd, 2009 7:54 pm

    Let’s modify the above intro a little, adding the middle paragraph, so it looks like this (new in BOLD):

    “This is the Voice of Reason Network, I’m Geoff Beck, and if you are listening to this, you are part of the Resistance, whether you know it or not, whether you like it or not.

    You, your Family, your Nation, and the very future of your RACE, have been drafted into a largely undeclared war that began thousands of years ago, and which moves to fruition before your eyes, and at your expense.

    We do not advocate the use of arms, and seek simply to the see purposeful, directed process of Evolution accelerate into a process of social Transformation for your Family, your Posterity, and our Race.

    Those who see this as a battle are correct, for it is a battle like no other. It is fought with Ideas, for Ideals, that will lead us to fulfill our Racial heritage of greatness.

    Our battle is for the future of the gift that gave you the highest standard of living, and the greatest degree of personal freedom, in the history of the world, Western Civilization, and the only Race that could Create, sustain, and enhance Western Civilization, the White RACE.

    more to follow

  22. Peter Schaenk on March 4th, 2009 1:18 am

    [Furthermore, in gentile society, both pagan and Christian, the central figure was that of the male, while in Judaism it was that of the woman and mother.](Moses Hess, father of Zionism)

    Christianity is and has always been a male dominated religion. A man is the central figure of worship and the priests are male.

    What more can one say? Do I have to draw you a picture?

  23. Mike Jahn on March 4th, 2009 6:14 am

    Draw Dietrich a picture…LOL

  24. maurice on March 4th, 2009 8:15 am

    “The RBN Show Archives are now $1.33 per month. Your participation is VITAL to keep RBN coming to you each & everyday.”

    No thanks.

    I confess I was hearing some patriotards (as I look CNN some few times to check what they want us to believe), but only for free. $1.33 is toooo expensive.

  25. cillian on March 4th, 2009 12:27 pm

    Hail Mary, full of grace.
    The Lord is with thee.
    Blessed art thou amongst women,
    and blessed is the fruit of thy womb, Jesus.
    Holy Mary, Mother of God,
    pray for us sinners,
    now and at the hour of our death.
    Amen.

    said 13 times in the catholic rosary followed by

    HAIL, HOLY QUEEN, Mother of Mercy, our life, our sweetness and our hope! To thee do we cry, poor banished children of Eve; to thee do we send up our sighs, mourning and weeping in this valley of tears. Turn then, most gracious advocate, thine eyes of mercy toward us, and after this our exile, show unto us the blessed fruit of thy womb, Jesus. O clement, O loving, O sweet Virgin Mary!

  26. Celt_NJ on March 4th, 2009 2:58 pm

    New America wrote:

    “Peter made the strongest observation about them, and the most astute observation, when he noticed that they do more good for our Enemies than they ever do for us.”

    I enjoy Peter’s grip on reality. It is an absolute truth that most so-called “White Nationalists” do far more harm than good. As a matter of fact, they treat other Whites far worse than the enemy.

    Case in point is when I try to meet up with others(under another pseudonym) for mutual help and support I get my skull bashed in by paranoid, weak minded and petty White men.

    http://vnnforum.com/showthread.php?t=75899

    And after I started that tread I was stalked endlessly by wierdos. Same thing over a ecwu.org. Stalked by nuts who accuse any White of trying to meet up for real life support as a “Jew” or “Fed” or whatever. The endless circular argument of ‘we can’t meet in real life because they have too much power yet can never empower Whites because we cannot meet up’.

    And Stormfront offers “Hey, I’m in …… Me too! And Me! But never anything based in reality off the internet.

    I have found that in the past year of looking at so-called WN I see only for the most part Whites who despise other Whites more than those that are supposed to be the enemy.

    Even when I read threads of some Whites fighting back here in the US or over in Europe I see many WN’s trashing their efforts as not good enough. Yet they sit on their asses all day whining on a forum doing nothing to make changes.

    The enemy of Whites is Whites themselves.

  27. Dietrich on March 4th, 2009 4:50 pm

    Thanks for the picture, Cillian . . . . . LOL

  28. New America on March 4th, 2009 6:19 pm

    in reply to Celt_NJ:

    Thank you for your thoughtful letter.

    It raises an issue I have needed to address for some time.

    My response will be a summary, for your issue raises larger issues, all of which carry within them the seeds of Opportunity, which require the soil of Responsibility in which to flourish.

    A Responsibility that has been long missing among the WN2/M Community, the Racially Conscious Community, for all too long, IF we define these in conventional terms, the terms – literally – chosen for us by our hereditary Racial Enemies.

    you wrote:

    New America wrote:

    “Peter made the strongest observation about them, and the most astute observation, when he noticed that they do more good for our Enemies than they ever do for us.”

    I enjoy Peter’s grip on reality. It is an absolute truth that most so-called “White Nationalists” do far more harm than good. As a matter of fact, they treat other Whites far worse than the enemy.

    in reply:
    This is an excellent observation, and I will respond to it at the end of my this post.

    you wrote:

    Case in point is when I try to meet up with others(under another pseudonym) for mutual help and support I get my skull bashed in by paranoid, weak minded and petty White men.

    http://vnnforum.com/showthread.php?t=75899

    And after I started that tread I was stalked endlessly by wierdos. Same thing over a ecwu.org. Stalked by nuts who accuse any White of trying to meet up for real life support as a “Jew” or “Fed” or whatever. The endless circular argument of ‘we can’t meet in real life because they have too much power yet can never empower Whites because we cannot meet up’.

    And Stormfront offers “Hey, I’m in …… Me too! And Me! But never anything based in reality off the internet.

    in reply:
    Very few in the Racially Conscious Community have any idea of what we are up against, and fewer still are remotely prepared to do something CONSTRUCTIVE about it, in a positve, meaningful sense.

    Instead, all too often, to various Forums are loaded with pathetic losers, who dream of marching at the front of new torchlight parades, which, in reality, they will “lead” in the sense that headlights “lead” a car.

    That’s what we have attracted, largely because we have allowed our Racial Enemies to define us at virtually all points.

    Hence, with precious few exceptions, they all look to the PAST, a safe, warm, comfortable Past, a pseudo-Golden Age, where Everything Was Properly Ordered.

    Thus, they are trying to recreate a Reality by adopting the Symbols, the matters of Form, of a better time, without having the proper Substance in place; thus, the Symbols do not match the current Cultural Moment, and they fail to inspire, or motivate.

    How our Enemies must laugh when they see our putative Leaders wearing ill-fitting versions of the Nazi uniforms, ill-fitting, ununiform uniforms, covering morbidly obese bodies.

    They want to build a Nation?

    They can’t control their eating (and drinking!) habits!

    So, they are the culls of our Racial drive back Towards The Stars; to paraphrase Agent Smith, at the beginning of “The Matrix,” “They are already dead. They just don’t realize it.”

    you wrote:

    I have found that in the past year of looking at so-called WN I see only for the most part Whites who despise other Whites more than those that are supposed to be the enemy.

    Even when I read threads of some Whites fighting back here in the US or over in Europe I see many WN’s trashing their efforts as not good enough. Yet they sit on their asses all day whining on a forum doing nothing to make changes.

    in reply:
    The complainers, the critics, are NOT the doers; their job is to act as False Flags, and demoralize us from taking even the smallest first step out of the Darkness.

    My high school wrestling coach said, “What you MUST do is keep your opponent’s shoulders as close to the mat as possible. If he gets even an inch up, he might be able to lever his way to two inches, and then, before you know it, you’re tapping out, as you hear the whistle announcing he has won the match.”

    That’s the jealousy of our strongest internal critics; they see you MIGHT actually make something of yourself, and thus be a better man, lead a better Family, and in time, lead the Race forward.

    Your unconstructive, destructive critics, are all failures.

    They are already dead men walking.

    And they fear the man who, by his example, proves this, and thus, they will do all in his power to stop him.

    you wrote:

    The enemy of Whites is Whites themselves.

    in reply:
    True enough.

    Some quick thoughts.

    Go to Metzger’s website, resist dot com, and go to the left side, clicking on the “Free Radio Show” tab.

    Download the 13 feb 09 A show, and skip forward 17 minutes, when he reads the comments of a Mike Burkes (sp?), who sees the same issues you, and so many of us, do.

    Then, go to Harold Covington’s website, and download copies of his “Northwest Quadrology.” Better, his best intro book, “A Distant Thunder,” is available from various bookstores.

    And, realize this:

    What do you have to lose from Starting Over, and moving to the Northwest, and being what you want the world to become?

    This is painful, at first, but opens doors to you beyond your imagining.

    Let me be brutally honest.

    What do you see the future of New Jersey being in twenty years? Thirty? Fifty?

    Do you REALLY want to be the last man speaking English in Wildwood?

    Funny thing about the clean, clear, crisp air of the Northwest.

    It keeps most of the parasites away, and slows down the rest dramatically.

    The new trailer for the Terminator Salvation movie ends with Christian Bale, in a magnificent portrayal of John Connor, shouting into a microphone, these words:

    IF WE STAY THE COURSE, WE ARE DEAD! WE ARE ALL DEAD!

    That’s Their Plan For Us.

    What do you want to do about it, starting with your self, and what you choose to make of your life?

    If I could go back in time to talk to me in high school, I would say,

    “Every day, even the smallest choices you make will be amplified in time, by Time, and the work you are – and are NOT doing, today, will set the limits on your life twenty, thirty, forty, fifty years from now. Every day you can choose, and you can no longer avoid the responsibility to choose, and choose wisely. If things do not change markedly for the better, you will be a second class citizen in a second world country, on its way to becoming a third world country. They will only change at all for YOU, so far as you CHOOSE, daily, to Make Something Of Yourself.”

    Losers are everywhere.

    I have hope for you, and confidence in you, because you do not see yourself as a victim, and THAT is the test of Character, and the beginning of Power.

  29. maurice on March 4th, 2009 7:02 pm

    Our Lady, the Mother of God is a woman.

    But Jesus, the Son og God, the 2nd Person of the Holy Trinity (means HE IS GOD), he is a MAN.

    But this is so important in VOR?

  30. Susie on March 4th, 2009 8:24 pm

    I always like what Susan Hayward said in a movie to her cowboy co-star, “Without me you’re nothing. And when you’re nothing in the country, you’re dead.”
    Susie

  31. New America on March 4th, 2009 10:26 pm

    in further reply to Celt_NJ:

    If I might take another minute of your time, consider that the people you were trying to meet with are essentially scared by your example.

    And, you remind them of what they COULD have become, if they took a few minutes to better themselves.

    So, they want to define you down – down to their level.

    Nothing will get any easier from here on out, on any level, particularly the economic level. Quite the contrary.

    There are computerized, private tests available at the Employment Office, particularly one called the Self-Directed Search. These are also given at local community colleges, and adult-ed schools.

    These might not show you what you will end up as, but they do a great job of showing you what you are NOT cut out for.

    Hell, I’d use a vocational astrologer if it would help!

    Then, do that, relentlessly.

    We are discussing some issues on bob whitaker’s site, and I would like to hare a few observations with you on how quickly things are turning around FOR us, at the Racial level, if you skip the labels and see what is there.

    Bear this in mind if you Take The Gap, and Come Home to the Northwest.

    You will gain the most valuable thing you can have – peace of mind – when you live in a place where you won’t necessarily make a lot of money – few will – but you can sleep peacefully, and soundly, and walk the streets without fear.

    Take a few moments as you fall asleep tonight, and ask yourself what your perfect life would look like twenty years from now: where would you live, what would you do for a living, what would you do if you got off work. Dream on that, and in the morning, a Pattern might have formed in your thinking overnight.

    Here is what we discussed on bob whitaker’s website, and you should keep this in mind when you move.

    Get a list of the local churches, and visit them during the week, as well as on the weekends.

    I’m willing to bet you will find ONE that feels particular comfortable to you.

    The Secret –

    The most Racially segregated places in America are churches on Sunday, where the Constitutionally guaranteed right of freedom of association is at work. You don’t have to mention Race as an issue, ever, as everyone, with a few irrational exceptions, practices Racial Separation.

    Period.

    Race is the central issue in the unfolding of Western Civilization, as no other Race than ours can Create Civilization.

    The practices of Judaism are what you must keep a watch on, but, even there, you can simply define them – in conversation – as “UnChristian practices,” which they certainly are.

    “Wise as serpents, peaceful as doves.”

    Build a better life for yourself, starting where you are, and moving to the Northwest when you are Ready.

    And, don’t worry about the losers.

    Twenty years from now, they will be pretty much where they are today, except they will weight about one hundred pounds more, and will have been in and out of rehab – and the local jail – far too often.

    Don’t worry about losers.

    Be what you want the world to become, and you will be surprised at the quality of people you will attract, on the job, in school, and in church.

  32. Celt_NJ on March 5th, 2009 12:21 am

    Thank you taking the time to respond to me. Very informative.

    A fews things. I cannot move to the Northwest nor am I willing to join a Church as I’m not Christian. Nothing wrong with being Christian at all but not my cup of tea. I believe in other ways.

    The bottom line and most pressing problem is the inability of Whites to form a bond off the internet in order to not only fight back but even just to survive.

    This should be IMHO the most important topic discussed on VOR ot anywhere else for than matter. The fact that after nearly a year and posting to 4 WN forums I cannot find one sane White to meet me in real life for mutual support demonstrates loud and clear of what the fundamental catalyst is of the why Whites are in the nightmare they are in.

    Until this issue is addressed in a mature, upfront and serious matter, discussing the who, what and why of “enemies” is utterly pointless.

  33. New America on March 5th, 2009 2:04 am

    in reply to Celt_NJ:

    you wrote:

    Thank you taking the time to respond to me. Very informative.

    A fews things. I cannot move to the Northwest nor am I willing to join a Church as I’m not Christian. Nothing wrong with being Christian at all but not my cup of tea. I believe in other ways.

    in reply:
    I don’t expect you to move to the Northwest now.

    In time, as you become more skilled and more competent, you will have the option – the CHOICE – which is the embodiment of power – to move, to the Northwest, if you choose, or most any place YOU choose.

    And, as for your being a “Christian,” note that “Christian” churches are basically social clubs, with only a nominal mention of Christ. My purpose was more in your joining and building a community, which will be a useful option in the times to come.

    Really, the dividing line between most “Christian” churches and practicing pagans is really pretty slim.

    you wrote:

    The bottom line and most pressing problem is the inability of Whites to form a bond off the internet in order to not only fight back but even just to survive.

    This should be IMHO the most important topic discussed on VOR ot anywhere else for than matter. The fact that after nearly a year and posting to 4 WN forums I cannot find one sane White to meet me in real life for mutual support demonstrates loud and clear of what the fundamental catalyst is of the why Whites are in the nightmare they are in.

    in reply:
    I agree in the essentials, but this means the greater opportunity is before you.

    The mutual support system – the Community – will come from Church and parachurch organizations.

    Again, the function of the modern churches, particularly in the more rural areas, is much more on community than dealing with the transformation of society along Christian lines.

    you wrote:

    Until this issue is addressed in a mature, upfront and serious matter, discussing the who, what and why of “enemies” is utterly pointless.

    in reply:
    Most discussions of our “enemies” are “utterly pointless,” as few are prepared to do anything constructive about it, starting with themselves.

    And yet, some sort of Community is out there for most anyone.

    I would hope you keep in mind that not seeing yourself as a victim is the first step toward personal effectiveness – power, in a word.

    The second step is actually doing something about your self, and your situation, and not being limited to who you were.

    Again, Whites ARE forming such bonds off the Internet, in their churches.

    Remember, you don’t have to actually convert to “Christianity.”

    Church socials are an excellent place to meet and try out new relationships, and, perhaps, new communities.

    BE What You Want The World To Become.

  34. maurice on March 5th, 2009 4:48 am

    http://www.christorchaos.com/index.html
    Plans to write yet another article about the various schemes, political and economic, of the Wizard of Obama had to be placed on hold this afternoon when news broke of Roger “Cardinal” Mahony’s statement, issued with two Talmudic rabbis in Tidings, the newspaper of the Archdiocese of Los Angeles in conciliar captivity, whereby he not only condemned Bishop Richard Williamson for his recently aired remarks about the nature and extent of the crimes of the Third Reich but banned him from all facilities within the archdiocese. This is a purely gratuitous statement designed to curry favor with the ancient enemies of Our Blessed Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, the very people who promote the shedding of the innocent blood of the preborn under cover of the civil law with great fervor and zeal. What can one expect of a man, Roger Mahony, is so bereft of the sensus Catholicus that one dissenting speaker another is invited annually to the infamous Los Angeles Religious Education Conference at the Anaheim Convention Center and who has protected and promoted one perverted priest after another?
    As there are references in this article to Mahony’s statement in a 2004 deposition concerning Father Oliver O’Grady, I caution readers that this article must not be read by children or young adolescents. Mahony has done great harm to the Faith, costing the people of his archdiocese nearly a billion dollars in settlement monies paid out to victims of his perverted priests. That he remains in power in the structures of the counterfeit church of conciliarism speaks volumes about the moral bankruptcy of the currently reigning conciliar “pontiff,” Joseph Ratzinger/Benedict XVI. Our Lady of the Rosary, pray for us.

  35. admin on March 5th, 2009 11:45 am

    Our Lady, the Mother of God is a woman.

    But Jesus, the Son og God, the 2nd Person of the Holy Trinity (means HE IS GOD), he is a MAN.

    Something of and by men can be feminine–especially when it’s put in relation to something else that is more masculine.

    Like in so many ways with those who want only dogma and feelings instead of hard facts, there is the confusion between apples and orangutans.

    In particular, that the sacred halls of an idea are dominated or led by men does not have much of a direct bearing on the masculinity of a particular philosophy. To put it simply (I guess it needs to be put simply?), think:

    masculine: “An eye for an eye.”
    feminine: “Turn the other cheek.”

    masculine: “Men of upstanding repute show us the ideal for our society.”

    feminine: “We are all lowly, naughty, and hopeless without [insert dogma].”

    masculine: “Those who oppress us will be put to the sword.”

    feminine: “Those who oppress us will get theirs in the afterlife.”

    feminine: “Render unto Caesar.” (for governments are in power at the will of God)

    masculine: “Gut that tyrant like a fish.”

    But this is so important in VOR?

    “In VOR?” Not rly. This is an open thread, however, and since I, oh I dunno . . . created the website, I believe I should be able to answer a comment here whenever I wish–thxbye.

  36. Celt_NJ on March 5th, 2009 2:36 pm

    New American Wrote:
    “I don’t expect you to move to the Northwest now.

    In time, as you become more skilled and more competent, you will have the option – the CHOICE – which is the embodiment of power – to move, to the Northwest, if you choose, or most any place YOU choose.

    And, as for your being a “Christian,” note that “Christian” churches are basically social clubs, with only a nominal mention of Christ. My purpose was more in your joining and building a community, which will be a useful option in the times to come.”

    —-

    Moving to the Northwest would not be a bad idea for a Pagan Nature lover as myself. But there are a couple of problems with such a move. It will do nothing to fix the problem and eventually it will still(the problem) come to me.

    As for the Church, if it was indeed geared towards Whites I could help “do the Lord’s work” as even though I’m Pagan be strick definition, I believe as much as any Christian in the Universe having a higher Intelligence. But many Churches support the illegal immigration model and put their so called faith above America and American’s interests.

    Which brings us back to square one. Why is it so difficult for me to find one or more like minded Whites for a simple survival network.
    Discussing the storing of cans of tuna is not illegal as of yet. No official name is needed for such a group.

    Jews have the ADL and thousands of other groups including Temples. Blacks have the NAACP and thousands of other groups including “Black Churches”. The illegal aliens and their supporters have La Raza and thousands of other groups supporting them including the Catholic Church. And so on with every other ethnic non White group. Even Gays have support systems in place.

    But the White has NOTHING. If a few Whites in NJ or nearby cannot meet up with me in a safe way of forming a simple survivialism group then who’s fault is that? I’m not asking for anyone to engage in anything illegal or even remotely WN related.

    All this never ending angst on WN forums is meaningless if Whites cannot even meet up for simple non political friendship and support. Any WN speaking of any activism is living in a fantasy world.

    Again, the problem here is Whites. With the impending economic doom on the horizon I’m amazed at the continuing bitter and willful apathy of WN’s. As they know all too well and more than most of what will become when societal norms breakdown into a Mad Max scenario.

  37. Peter Schaenk on March 5th, 2009 2:37 pm

    (But this is so important in VOR?)

    No it is not important to the network and it’s goals. But as long as the atheists on this thread feel content to keep telling the Christians how “false” and “feminine” their religion is, I will keep pointing out the unproductive / false nature of their rants.

    If you don’t believe in God, that’s your business. WE NEVER asked WHY you don’t believe. So keep it to yourself, as we aren’t demanding you believe in anything you don’t wish to believe.

    As White men, we should at least have a shared respect for our traditions. Chrisitianity is part of the White man’s tradition, like it or not.

    If you can’t respect the religion of your ancestors, then you have a much more serious problem with “self hate”, that you will have to work out on your own.

  38. New America on March 5th, 2009 4:58 pm

    The problem is, the development of Western Institutions is bound to the development of Christianity; that Christianity at the Instititutional level has become something of a parody of itself is due to the minds of men trying to make Christ into the servant of Christianity, defined by the “Christian” Institutions they control, and not the other way around.

    Thus, we see “Christianity” transformed from the very intolerant, very Masculine Christianity, to it’s inversion, Judeo-Christianity, a feminine Christianity, one closely allied to the Babylonian mystery cults, where the doctrine of Marian Co-Redemption comes dangerously close to the Babylonian fertility cult of Semiramis.

    And thus, Institutional Christianity becomes all but the inversion – the exact opposite – of Christianity as exemplified by Christ, whose words and deeds have been misudnerstood – indeed, deliberately misunderstood, to make them supportive of the Feminine Christianity of Judeo-Christianity.

    Remember, of course, that Judaism is the EXACT opposite of Christianity. Judeo-Christianity is thus an oxymoron, UNLESS your emphasis is on making Christianity the servant of Judaism.

    Then, the term is very, very accurate, indeed.

    This takes us to a commentary on admin’s points:

    you wrote:

    masculine: “An eye for an eye.”
    feminine: “Turn the other cheek.”

    in reply:
    This reflects the transformation of the Old Testament Judaic Law – “eye for an eye” – into the Christian model of “turn the other cheek.”

    Those words of Christ have been commonly misunderstood, thanks to the Judaic transformation of Christianity.

    When they were told to “turn the other cheek,” that was meant in the context of master-slave relationships; the phrase was, essentially, “if he strike the RIGHT cheek, turn and offer him your LEFT cheek.”

    Why?

    Under Roman law, masters could cuff servants, but were limited to striking them with their weaker hand, the left hand, which would be the one used to strike the right cheek of the servant.

    On the other hand, if he hits you with his power hand, his right hand, he must strike your LEFT cheek, and, under Roman law, you were now free to respond to him, not as a servant, but as an EQUAL.

    In short, you have manipulated the Master’s loss of self control into him placing himself in a position where he and the slave were equal, and the slave could beat him thoroughly.

    you wrote:

    masculine: “Men of upstanding repute show us the ideal for our society.”

    feminine: “We are all lowly, naughty, and hopeless without [insert dogma].”

    in reply:
    This is Judaism incarnate.

    Men of upstanding repute DO show us the ideals for our society, and the strongest and wisest of them admit the limits of the Mind in understanding the actions of the Soul, and the Spirit.

    That having been said, they are humble before Something, and this is usually a sense of purpose in having their lives been spent in the fulfillment of a much greater destiny than their own sense of personal power, and sensual gratification.

    For all of Constantine’s dreams, he could not have united regions, and formed an Empire, without the guiding power and uniting force of Christianity.

    If he had to make Christianity into something the pure Christians might have objected to, then he used the matters of Form available to him, keeping the matters of Substance intact, forming one Roman Empire, today, and laying the foundation of the much more power organizing system of Western Civilization, tomorrow.

    you wrote:

    masculine: “Those who oppress us will be put to the sword.”

    feminine: “Those who oppress us will get theirs in the afterlife.”

    in reply:
    If we are right, both are true.

    Jesus commanded his followers, under certain circumstances, to sell their cloaks and buy a sword.

    In fact, Christ began His Ministry by forming a weapon, a type of whip like a cat of nine tails, and using it vigorously on those who had made a mockery of His Father’s house.

    you wrote:

    feminine: “Render unto Caesar.” (for governments are in power at the will of God)

    masculine: “Gut that tyrant like a fish.”

    in reply:
    Both are true, because all governments are at power by the will of God, and His Servants will do what they are told to do.

    Some will take on the tyrant head on, in one place and time, and others will leave to form a better society, in another place, and time.

  39. admin on March 5th, 2009 5:09 pm

    But as long as the atheists on this thread feel content to keep telling the Christians how “false” and “feminine” their religion is, I will keep pointing out the unproductive / false nature of their rants.

    I haven’t seen anyone say it was “false.” Please point this out to so I can see what you’re talking about.

    If you don’t believe in God, that’s your business. WE NEVER asked WHY you don’t believe. So keep it to yourself, as we aren’t demanding you believe in anything you don’t wish to believe.

    What you are demanding is that someone be able to make a silly (yet vaguely pro-Christian) comment, and nobody who knows better is allowed to respond.

    As White men, we should at least have a shared respect for our traditions. Chrisitianity is part of the White man’s tradition, like it or not.

    Yes, as are the “dark ages,” the timing of which are kind of interesting, no?

    If you can’t respect the religion of your ancestors,

    I would imagine that our ancestors were both Christian and pagan (with stops in between), depending on what year you’re landing on, therefore, it can not very well be an issue of respecting or disrespecting one in favor of another, unless it’s a short-sighted thought that our ancestors = Christian only.

    then you have a much more serious problem with “self hate”, that you will have to work out on your own.

    The only problem really is one of people letting their own emotions get caught up in an academic issue. If you don’t understand, don’t take part. If you get your feelings hurt by comparative religion, avoid the discussion.

  40. New America on March 5th, 2009 5:36 pm

    A Moment of Commentary:

    Respectfully, to admin and Peter Schaenk:

    One of the things that so alienated the kind of people who make a positive difference from VNN was the Forum, where Christianity, in all of its Forms, was mocked and derided, with Linder referring to Jesus as “JeeBoo,” and Chain referring to Jesus as “a dead Jew on a stick.”

    This works very well in the adolescent rebellion phase.

    It does not work at all in the Adult world of substantial relationships, and real politics.

    VNN will always be two school cafeteria groups; VNN Forum, the junior high school name callers and clique managers, and VNN’s Main Page/blog, the high school “we are going to have to be Adults one day, so we might as well act like it” crowd.

    The deeper battle is the battle of Wordism to try to define Western Civilization, and the White RACE, down.

    This has succeeded beautifully in the case of Christianity at the Institutional level, and it is really trying to pull this off at the local level, particularly the small, local churches.

    Social philosophers from Tocqueville, describing America, to Solzhenitsyn, describing Russia, have noted the spiritual foundation is of the greatest importance in defining a nation, a Culture, and even the process of Civilization.

    I have argue that the Pagan North gave an incredible amount of sheer, raw, masculine energy to Christianity at the time the dominant Christian Institutions were not moving forward at all.

    I have argue the Pagan North was, in fact, the servant of Christ, in transforming what was in danger of becoming stagnant, Christianity as the Living Foundation of Western Civilization.

    More to the point, I have argued – in this thread, see my comments to Celt_NJ and Ba Racknophobe – that people are using their criticism of the imperfection of the Institutions before them, whether it is the nascent White Nationalist community or the particular Form the Christian Church takes before them – as excuses to not do better, as rationalizations triumphing over rational analysis.

    We see a lot of Childish and Adolescent behavior here, and we see the Jewish practice of critique masked as criticism, and not at all as constructive criticism.

    Hence, my challenge to one and all to do better with the Institutions we have, starting with themselves, their habit,s and extending out to their Families, their Communities, and their Race.

    After all, you don’t have to follow King Olaf when he converted to Christianity.

    You can do like his dissident did, and go find America.

    Do Better!

  41. maurice on March 5th, 2009 5:40 pm

    admin said: masculine: “An eye for an eye.”

    sounds judaic, no?

  42. Celt NJ on March 5th, 2009 5:41 pm

    New American Wrote:
    “I don’t expect you to move to the Northwest now.

    In time, as you become more skilled and more competent, you will have the option – the CHOICE – which is the embodiment of power – to move, to the Northwest, if you choose, or most any place YOU choose.

    And, as for your being a “Christian,” note that “Christian” churches are basically social clubs, with only a nominal mention of Christ. My purpose was more in your joining and building a community, which will be a useful option in the times to come.”

    —-

    Moving to the Northwest would not be a bad idea for a Pagan Nature lover as myself. But there are a couple of problems with such a move. It will do nothing to fix the problem and eventually it will still(the problem) come to me.

    As for the Church, if it was indeed geared towards Whites I could help “do the Lord’s work” as even though I’m Pagan by strict definition, I believe as much as any Christian in the Universe having a higher Intelligence. But many Churches support the illegal immigration model and put their so called faith above America and American’s interests. And Whites I might add.

    Which brings us back to square one. Why is it so difficult for me to find one or more like minded Whites for a simple survival network.
    Discussing the storing of cans of tuna is not illegal as of yet. No official name is needed for such a group.

    Jews have the ADL and thousands of other groups including Temples. Blacks have the NAACP and thousands of other groups including “Black Churches”. The illegal aliens and their supporters have La Raza and thousands of other groups supporting them including the Catholic Church. And so on with every other ethnic non White group. Even Gays have support systems in place.

    But the White has NOTHING. If a few Whites in NJ or nearby cannot meet up with me in a safe way of forming a simple survivialism group then who’s fault is that? I’m not asking for anyone to engage in anything illegal or even remotely WN related.

    All this never ending angst on WN forums is meaningless if Whites cannot even meet up for simple non political friendship and support. Any WN speaking of any activism is living in a fantasy world.

    Again, the problem here is Whites. With the impending economic doom on the horizon I’m amazed at the continuing bitter and willful apathy of WN’s. As they know all too well and more than most of what will become when societal norms breakdown into a Mad Max scenario.

  43. maurice on March 5th, 2009 5:43 pm

    “Yes, as are the “dark ages,” the timing of which are kind of interesting, no?”

    and this sounds like “discovery channel” history knowledge

  44. Celt_NJ on March 5th, 2009 5:56 pm

    New America on March 5th, 2009 5:36 pm, Wrote:

    A Moment of Commentary:

    Respectfully, to admin and Peter Schaenk:

    One of the things that so alienated the kind of people who make a positive difference from VNN was the Forum, where Christianity, in all of its Forms, was mocked and derided, with Linder referring to Jesus as “JeeBoo,” and Chain referring to Jesus as “a dead Jew on a stick.”

    ————–

    It’s sickening they way so-called White Nationalists treat each other. Peter and yourself suggesting that Christanity was the glue that held White nations together is true. I realize that and I’m not of the Christian faith.

    What the detrators of Christians in the WN ‘movement’ should ponder is the fact that Christians have the ability to not only band together in real life for mutual help and support but put their faith aside,if you will to help other Whites.

    Something that the Christian bashers have not and never will accomplish.

  45. Susie on March 5th, 2009 6:38 pm

    I’m thinking this should be called ‘Church Speak’ instead of Listeners Comments.
    Susie

  46. maurice on March 5th, 2009 6:46 pm

    or Pagans Speak, Susie…

  47. New America on March 5th, 2009 7:17 pm

    in thoughtful reply to Susie:

    you said:

    I’m thinking this should be called ‘Church Speak’ instead of Listeners Comments.

    in reply:
    Churches are social Institutions through which, at best, a society reflects its Ideas of spirituality as an organizing principle.

    Most WN organizations have accomplished nothing – I repeat, absolutely NOTHING – in terms of Real World Effectiveness, because, in large part, they – in the spirit of adolescent rebellion – gratuitously and stupidly mock what little the rest of us can agree upon, to one degree or another, one way or another.

    Yet, they have nothing better to replace it with.

    Thus, in the case of the WNist, Christianity, to an degree, is replaced with Nihilkism, to the infinite degree.

    Judaism is QUITE comfortable with that, as it replaces something worth fighting FOR, with nothing – literally nothing – worth fighting for.

    What is left is simply sensate gratification, and being eternally bound to the material world around us, with no sense of looking UPwards at all, much less looking to the stars, much less dreaming, and working purposefully, Towards The Stars, so that one day, our Posterity may walk in our rightfyl Homeland, Among The Stars.

    Instead, the Nihilists become addicts of something – alcohol, indiscriminate sex, drugs, something – and, as Metzger’s buddy Lone Wold Wall Street put it:

    The practice of the Jew is to ALWAYS get between you, and your addiction.

    Control your access to your addiction, and you WILL be totally controlled, like the cattle you have chosen to Become.

    What Is YOUR God?

    For most of us, it is television, food, alcohol, and indiscriminate relationships.

    And thus, most of us are easily conquered; indeed, we fight to sell them, the rope they are using to hang us.

  48. admin on March 5th, 2009 7:38 pm

    admin said: masculine: “An eye for an eye.”

    sounds judaic, no?

    Yes, as “turn the other cheek” is written by a Jew (Matthew, probably a rabbi) for Jewish consumption. My goal is to compare apples to apples where possible so that things can be as clear as possible.

    It’s not “bashing Christianity” to tell the truth. I’m either right or wrong, but some members of the peanut gallery are doing what the bad guys do when we quote crime statistics–ie: calling them a hater. No, the stats are either right or they’re wrong, just is some of the most important biblical scholarship of the last 200 years.

    I do find it odd how there’s such resistance to the notion that Christianity is both feminine and eastern. Kevin MacDonald has written extensively about this, so I know you all have run across it.

    You did read K. Mac, didn’t you?

  49. New America on March 5th, 2009 7:42 pm

    in reply to Celt_NJ:

    you wrote (in part):

    But the White has NOTHING. If a few Whites in NJ or nearby cannot meet up with me in a safe way of forming a simple survivialism group then who’s fault is that? I’m not asking for anyone to engage in anything illegal or even remotely WN related.

    All this never ending angst on WN forums is meaningless if Whites cannot even meet up for simple non political friendship and support. Any WN speaking of any activism is living in a fantasy world.

    Again, the problem here is Whites. With the impending economic doom on the horizon I’m amazed at the continuing bitter and willful apathy of WN’s. As they know all too well and more than most of what will become when societal norms breakdown into a Mad Max scenario.

    in reply :
    The never-ending “angst” is part and parcel of their selective impotence in the face of dealing with the Real World. as I have said before, these are people who never mattered, and never will, in a positive way, for their Families, and our RACE.

    Recognize that WNs will fail – as they have – because they became stuck at a lower level of the Truth; that is as much of the Truth as they can handle, and is not enough of the Truth to move forward.

    So, as one, they retreat to soft, safe Fantasies, of a magical world where Sky God Pierce, Sky God Rockwell, and Sky God Uncle Adolph will all magically return and, somehow, make it all better.

    Not ONE of them will send even one dollar to VOR, much less work constructively to better himself, in the context of his Family, as the microcosm of RACE, or his RACE, as the macrocosm of his Family.

    So, the sustainable Power is where the mature Responsibility is, and that is on YOUR shoulder, to Do Better, regardless of the ones around you.

    The WNists of Greater NJ are like most WNists, disgraces to the Family, and disgraces to the RACE.

    And that’s fine; I expect little from those who were never much to begin with, and have no plans to better what little they, THROUGH THEIR CHOICES, have become.

    Fine.

    The rest of us can chose to become the best of us, and work purposefully to the day that our Posterity will praise us for what we did, today, the seeds we planted and fostered today, that grew to the refuges of our RACE, tomorrow.

    The Choice is yours, but think of it this way:

    Would you rather be the last White Man in Camden, or a Church Elder in the Northwest; say, northwest of Rexburg, Idaho?

    Done that Self-Directed Search thing yet?

    Time grows SHORT!

  50. New America on March 5th, 2009 7:54 pm

    in further reply to Celt_NJ:

    You’ve just reminded me of something.

    Have you noticed how much the WNist of today, with a few exceptions, are essentially stuck in the soft impotence of Patriotardism?

    Have you noticed how much they attack the All-Powerful Other – the Illuminati, the International Bankers, you name it – all the while ignoring the FACT that such organizations as they can see are HERE because of what the White RACE, uniquely , can do?

    Have you noticed something singularly pathetic about all of them, that they all want to go BACK to some mythical Yesterday that never really was, and certainly will not come again, as they understand it?

    Blaming others gives THEM all of the Power, while the source of POWER for us is to accept the Responsibility needed to fulfill our part in a much greater RACIAL Destiny. By accepting THIS mantle, the power we need will be given us, as we are worthy.

    THAT is Christianity, in action!

    Self-Directed Search!

    Lead from the Front!

    Ignore The Losers!

  51. maurice on March 5th, 2009 8:15 pm

    admin interprets “turn the other cheek” and the “dark ages” in a typical jewish historian way

  52. Drew on March 5th, 2009 9:05 pm

    Susie wrote:
    “I’m thinking this should be called ‘Church Speak’ instead of Listeners Comments.”

    Christ is not necessarily the ‘Church’. Christians have argued and warred among themselves for hundreds of years about what the true concept of the ‘Church’ should be. Do not make the mistake of equating the word of Christ with the ‘Church’, which is easily dismissed for all its rivalries, inconsistencies, and factions.

    Any great truth, or lie in the case of Judaism, will inevitably build a bureaucracy around it. Do not confuse the bureaucracy for the heart of the matter. Christ asked us all to have a personal relationship with God, through him, by yourself, in a place of privacy that you so chose, when you prayed–as opposed to the Jews, who created temples out of hypocritical vanity. He warned us that religious bureaucracy leads to hypocrisy.

    That Christian churches have falsely emulated the earlier Jewish synagogues, which Christ warned against, is not the fault of the messenger, as he made so clear to us. Your individualism is not compromised by Christ. His words leave very little to disagree with–he tells us how we can be different from, and transcend, the Pharisees:

    “And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in the Synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward. But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly.”

    Matthew 6:5-6, KJV

  53. maurice on March 5th, 2009 10:43 pm

    Homosexuality was not regarded by the Viking peoples as being evil, perverted, innately against the laws of nature or any of the other baggage about the concept that Christian belief has provided Western culture.
    http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/pwh/gayvik.html

  54. maurice on March 5th, 2009 10:45 pm

    Being used homosexually by another man was equated with cowardice because of the custom of sexual aggression against vanquished foes. This practice is documented in Sturlunga saga, most notably in Guðmundar saga dýra where Guðmundr takes captive a man and his wife, and plans for both the woman and the man to be raped as a means of sexual humiliation.

  55. maurice on March 5th, 2009 10:53 pm

    As far as we know, the Celtic attitude to homosexuality was one of reasonable acceptance as a more or less normal part of life provided it did not interfere with marriage and kin obligations. The Celts were a warrior race whose soldiers, according to their enemies, commonly shared their beds of hides and furs with each other. Diodorus Siculus observed that the men were “much keener on their own sex” than on the Celtic women and openly offered themselves sexually to each other but that this
    was not looked down upon or regarded as disgraceful in any way.
    http://www.bobhay.net/_downloads/_homo/Summary%20Session%2016.pdf

  56. Reck~Less, Abandon on March 5th, 2009 11:32 pm

    Israelites are not jews….. Eye for an eye is for our enemy, turn the other cheek is to our brother’s.

  57. Celt_NJ on March 6th, 2009 12:36 am

    “Would you rather be the last White Man in Camden, or a Church Elder in the Northwest; say, northwest of Rexburg, Idaho?”

    100 million Whites cannot run away to Idaho. I guess it’s too much to ask for Whites to defend themselves and there nation.

    I guess this idea is more taboo than discussing the Holocaust in Israel.

  58. Celt_NJ on March 6th, 2009 12:40 am

    “Would you rather be the last White Man in Camden, or a Church Elder in the Northwest; say, northwest of Rexburg, Idaho?”

    100 million Whites cannot run away to Idaho.
    Why must Whites run away instead of fighting for their home and country?

  59. Celt_NJ on March 6th, 2009 1:03 am

    Maurice Wrote:

    History of Homosexuality…

    —–

    So, the men of San Francisco are going to save the White Race?
    Is that where I should go for help and support? ‘Cause I ain’t getting any within the WN “movement”.

    The White’s house is burning down and all I read here is petty arguments about nothing.

  60. New America on March 6th, 2009 1:06 am

    in reply to Celt_NJ:

    you wrote, quoting me:

    “Would you rather be the last White Man in Camden, or a Church Elder in the Northwest; say, northwest of Rexburg, Idaho?”

    you wrote in reply:

    100 million Whites cannot run away to Idaho.
    Why must Whites run away instead of fighting for their home and country?

    in reply:
    Nobody “HAS” to do anything.

    And, that has been the pattern of all of the Patriotards, and the vast majority of the WNist Community.

    I was citing the move to the Northwest as an example of what you COULD do, if YOU so chose. It is, literally, the power to start your life over, on higher ground – if YOU so chose.

    The counterpoint are those people who want – as if by magic – to somehow, remake Camden, or save Detroit.

    The issue is not “running away,” as what you would be “running away” from has already been lost to you.

    It is the power to run TO another place, a much Better Place, which is made even better by having you as a part of the Community.

    Look at the incredible difficulties you have meeting people who see things the way you do, where you live – and THEY have the Living Proof of what happens when the White Man leaves right before your eyes.

    I can assure you, if you do not USE the terms of Race AT FIRST, you will discover a community well to your liking if you visit the small town churches of the Northwest; say, some place to the Northwest of Rexburg, Idaho.

    All of these people who complain about people being moved out by the “Mud Flood” simply can not bring themselves to face the facts of the situation, and do not want to DO ANYTHING – I repeat, DO ANYTHING – about it.

    That’s fine, for them.

    YOU deserve better, if you can make it better.

    And you will have much stronger opportunities to make a better place, for your Family, and for your RACE, if you choose to, in the words of Harold Covington and April Gaede, Take The Gap.

    Clearly, however, know this:

    If you stay where you are, doing what you have been doing, you will keep getting what you’ve got.

    The White Survivalist Community of New Jersey simply does not exist; at least, not for you.

    Maybe you should not rely upon the deeds of strangers, hoping that they will do for you what you choose not to do for your self, when you could do so damn much, if you started to build yourself to be able to stand on higher ground.

    NO ONE IS COMING TO THE RESCUE OF THE LAST WHITE MAN IN CAMDEN, OR THE LAST ENGLISH SPEAKER IN WILDWOOD.

    Period.

  61. Celt_NJ on March 6th, 2009 1:22 am

    “Maybe you should not rely upon the deeds of strangers, hoping that they will do for you what you choose not to do for your self, when you could do so damn much, if you started to build yourself to be able to stand on higher ground.”

    Build what? Stand where? Are you living in a fantasy world? Civilized society requires others working together. You one of those that plan to hide in their bunkers while the White Race is slaughtered?

    If Whites cannot depend on other Whites than what IS the point of White Nationalism? Why are you here? To tell me that I have to go it alone while every other non White group will be banding together?

    This is the ongoing problem with Whites. And why WE GO NOWHERE to retain our rights.

  62. admin on March 6th, 2009 1:35 am

    I’m holding my breath waiting for Peter to say that Maurice is insulting our forefathers.

    Heh, not rly, but it would be consistent.

    heh.

  63. New America on March 6th, 2009 1:49 am

    in reply to Celt_NJ:

    I wrote:

    “Maybe you should not rely upon the deeds of strangers, hoping that they will do for you what you choose not to do for your self, when you could do so damn much, if you started to build yourself to be able to stand on higher ground.”

    you replied:

    Build what? Stand where? Are you living in a fantasy world? Civilized society requires others working together. You one of those that plan to hide in their bunkers while the White Race is slaughtered?

    If Whites cannot depend on other Whites than what IS the point of White Nationalism? Why are you here? To tell me that I have to go it alone while every other non White group will be banding together?

    This is the ongoing problem with Whites. And why WE GO NOWHERE to retain our rights.

    in reply:
    If you look at Christianity, say, about 2000 years ago, you would find the same issues as you describe, and it took Constantine to define “Christianity” in stable, Institutional terms.

    It just might take something equivalent to what happened to the First Christians to get us up and moving, and it seems to be happening, pretty much beneath the radar.

    The U-Hauls in Southern California, and now, Southern New Mexico, are maxed out with White Americans fleeing, literally, for their lives, and they are fleeing to the North, and to the West.

    They know something the rest of us don’t: you can not negotiate with our Racial Enemies. They are, literally, Terminators of Western Civilization and the White RACE.

    Period.

    You keep hoping things will “get better” in the WN/”Survivalist” community of New Jersey.

    They haven’t contacted you for two reasons:

    One, they haven’t done anything worth mentioning, much less sharing, and…

    Two, they are ashamed of that.

    Someone who is willing to actually DO SOMETHING, like you, simply embarrasses the Hell out of these damn losers.

    Reread that last line three or four times.

    “They” don’t want to meet you because there is no “they” there.

    Period.

    This creates an incredible opportunity for you, by developing your skills, locally, adn then moving to a Better Place.

    Hell, April Gaede moved to damn Kalispell, Montana, and she’s a GIRL – with children!

    GOOGLE the newspapers and radio and tv stations north and west of, say, Rexburg, Idaho, and bookmark the more attractive ones.

    You can NOT do anything about other people, other than inspire them by your example – IF they were ready to see someone who is better than they are.

    You don’t have to go it alone.

    You CAN join communities that are all-but-White in all-but name.

    Small churches out in the Northwest Republic are where White Community is being built, even as we speak.

    This not happening, and will not be happening, in New Jersey, that I can see.

    And you should NOT live your life depending upon the kindness of strangers.

    YOU should be making the choices for YOUR life, starting, well, now.

    And, remember the word of Tom Metzger:

    You only have the rights you can enforce.

    Period.

  64. maurice on March 6th, 2009 5:20 am

    I have all respect for our forefathers, and of course they were all pagans in the beginning. The same thing happened for the Romans, Greeks, Spartans, etc. I understand were different times. But we all have to agree the influence of Christianity was beneficial in this aspect (condemning homosexuality).

  65. Susie on March 6th, 2009 12:10 pm

    Drew,
    There is no such thing as ‘Judeo-Christian’ since Judaism does not accept Christ. Never forget that Jesus was delivering a message (fulfilling a prophecy) for his OWN people, not the Gentiles, that the Kingdom of God was already here.

    The ‘church’ you speak of would be the Catholic Church and my reference to a title change for this room has nothing to do with Catholics.

    Still, it is interesting that the debate about the problems in the world still revolve around religion and personal beliefs. God is a hard act to follow.
    Susie

  66. New America on March 6th, 2009 2:00 pm

    in further reply to Celt_NJ:

    You might want to get the FIREFOX browser, and make folders for the bookmarks organized by area – North Idaho news, North Oregon news, etc. – and place the media sources websites in those. Opening all of the tabs in a folder at once gives you a quick look.

    For websites, just GOOGLE – Idaho news, Idaho radio, Idaho television – do that for each state, and then just put the bookmakers in the proper folder.

    Take five minutes a day with each folder, and then go to the city-data website for information on a place you think might be interesting,

    If you need motivation, go to YouTube, and download the Alec Baldwin clip from Glengarry Glen Ross; it’s the best seven minutes you will spend getting the facts of life concerning the people you think you should be looking for, and the people you SHOULD be looking for.

    In the clip, see Jack Lemmon, wearing his cheap clothes, and his fat litle belly?

    THAT is the standard WNist you think you are looking for.

    See Alex Baldwin?

    Thousand dollar suit, fit, smart, alpha male?

    THAT is the mindset of the person you should aspire to become.

    And, above all, remember the parting words of Alex Baldwin:

    “I’d like to help you gents, but you know what? A loser is a loser.”

    The choices you make TODAY will be amplified BY Time, IN Time.

    Good luck.

  67. zjim1984 on March 6th, 2009 2:01 pm

    I motion New America get his own program because he has so much to say.

    Second?

  68. celt_nj on March 6th, 2009 2:45 pm

    New America wrote:

    “You keep hoping things will “get better” in the WN/”Survivalist” community of New Jersey.”

    There are probably more Whites living in NJ than all of Idaho, Montana, Wyoming combined. And they are dozens of WN on other forums including VNN, Strormfront and ecwu.org who state they are from NJ.

    I’ve read numerous forums and newsgroups over the years devoted to Survivalism. Any mention someone else about folks coming together results in bizarre responses about “preparing”. Those White Survivalists in the Northwest would, one after another post creepy responses in great detail on how folks deserve to die if they did not store whatever and “prepare”. Threads of possible scenarios would detail ‘White Survivalist” types in the Northwest saying they would murder anyone who comes on their property looking for food especially if they “looked” sick. Including Children.

    All this talk about White Civilization by White Nationalists and yet not one of them wants to save the very White Civilization they glorify.

    Go to any survivalism or gun forum, the newsgroup misc.survivalism also hosted by “google groups” and see for yourself.

    And there is not any White “Community” in Idaho no more than in North and West NJ. I would have the same problem there as here. The problem is Whites. I live in a mixed but majority White community. I could move west or north just a few miles and be in a 98% White Community. What good does that do when they selfish, greedy and arrogant zombies? Non of my White neighbors talk to each other. Unless there is a Hurricane or massive snowfall. Even then it’s “wow, alot of snow or rain” as the case may be.

  69. Drew on March 6th, 2009 4:05 pm

    Susie wrote:
    “There is no such thing as ‘Judeo-Christian’ since Judaism does not accept Christ.”

    I agree with you whole-heartedly–the term was invented during the 1940s, most likely to convince American Christians to join in the Zionist cause to defeat their ‘evil’ common enemy, Germany. However, I never used that phrase in my comment, nor would I, so I’m not sure where you’re coming from on that one. Also, you suggest that I was referring to the Catholic church, which I don’t believe I mentioned.

    Either way, you’re right–religion keeps coming up because it is one of the pillars of Western Civilization that Lenin stated must be destroyed to usher in world communism, i.e., globalism. The others, of course, are national sovereignty, racial identity, and family, none of which are easy to sustain without faith.

  70. New America on March 6th, 2009 4:38 pm

    in reply to Celt_NJ:

    You’ve made some good points, and I would like to address them, and place them in a more appropriate, RACIAL context.

    you wrote:
    New America wrote:

    “You keep hoping things will “get better” in the WN/”Survivalist” community of New Jersey.”

    in reply:
    True – and they won’t, for they are losers.

    They haven’t done anything that substantially matters to the RACE with their lives; never have, and never will.

    you wrote:

    There are probably more Whites living in NJ than all of Idaho, Montana, Wyoming combined. And they are dozens of WN on other forums including VNN, Strormfront and ecwu.org who state they are from NJ.

    in reply:
    Our Focus – Pierce got this much right – has to be on quality, and not quantity.

    I’d rather have fifty Recon Marines, than a thousand of anything else, on my side, when it comes to dealing with serious issues, in a serious manner.

    And, if the people you refer to are “from NJ,” you certainly couldn’t tell it, from looking at the demographics, and the demographic future, of New Jersey.

    you wrote:

    I’ve read numerous forums and newsgroups over the years devoted to Survivalism. Any mention someone else about folks coming together results in bizarre responses about “preparing”. Those White Survivalists in the Northwest would, one after another post creepy responses in great detail on how folks deserve to die if they did not store whatever and “prepare”. Threads of possible scenarios would detail ‘White Survivalist” types in the Northwest saying they would murder anyone who comes on their property looking for food especially if they “looked” sick. Including Children.

    in reply:
    These fat-assed losers – capital “L” type losers – can’t take care of their own lives, much less be the Living Foundation of a Family today, a Community, tomorrow, and a RACIAL Nation, in time.

    Don’t worry about them.

    Note the big flaw in all of their thinking:

    ALL they want to do is SURVIVE, and even THAT, on someone ELSE’S terms.

    WE are the only RACE that can Create, and Develop, Civilization, and Western Civilization.

    They want to live in something like the Nineteenth Century, with electricity.

    They do not want to Create a better place, for themselves, or their RACE.

    They just want to hide out, and the only difference between their bitty lean-to in the middle of Oregon, and Mommy’s basement, is…

    Oh, that’s right.

    They’re still living in Mommy’s basement; at least, in their mind.

    Not one thought, not one Idea, on how to build a house for themselves, and a better house, for THEIR Family.

    Don’t worry about them: they WERE losers, they ARE losers, adn they will DIE losers.

    Be what YOU want the world to become.

    Ignore the losers.

    After all, they are ignorant, and well worth ignoring.

    Civilization was not build by Men who wanted to “survive.”

    No.

    Civilization was build by MEN who wanted to CONQUER!

    Not these damn losers you see on these boards..

    See the Alex Baldwin speech yet?

    Just look at them and say to yourself, “A loser is just a loser.”

    All they want to do is survive.

    That’s good enough for plants, and animals.

    I want to see my Posterity walk on Mars, and lead the first expedition to Alpha Centauri.

    They’re not going to “survive”; they are going to CONQUER, and the first thing they have to conquer is THEMSELVES.

    I have quasi-adopted two of my Nephews, who graduated from :high school” back in the hills, where we came from. It has been very challenging to help them to better themselves, but we are making substantial headway.

    I was extremely proud when I stopped off at McDonalds on the way back from church – they are in the Young Adult Program – and ordered dinner for us, and coffee for myself.

    The Older One looked at me and said, “UNCLE! Put that coffee DOWN! COFFEE IS FOR CLOSERS!”

    He and his brother looked at me, and laughed.

    I don’t think I’ve ever been so proud in my life, for they have internalized the proper Mindset.

    Incidentally, I looked at them, pointed to the Urban Underclass in the parking lot and said, “That’s right guys, and don’t forget: A Loser Is A Loser.”

    you wrote:

    All this talk about White Civilization by White Nationalists and yet not one of them wants to save the very White Civilization they glorify.

    in reply:
    Because they see it is easier to do nothing, which will insure their Posterity will end up as Second Class Citizens in a Second World Nation.

    None of them want to better themselves in any substantial way, and that is fine, for there will be much less competition for you.

    They might well “glorify” Western Civilization, but I can assure you they will not Create, or Lead, Western Civilization, at ANY level.

    They…Are…Losers.

    you wrote:

    Go to any survivalism or gun forum, the newsgroup misc.survivalism also hosted by “google groups” and see for yourself.

    in reply:
    That’s why I don;t go to those forums.

    They are Losers, bitching with the righteousness and learned helplessness of those who choose to remain impotent.

    I have wasted far too much of my time with these damn Losers.

    No more.

    you wrote:

    And there is not any White “Community” in Idaho no more than in North and West NJ. I would have the same problem there as here. The problem is Whites. I live in a mixed but majority White community. I could move west or north just a few miles and be in a 98% White Community. What good does that do when they selfish, greedy and arrogant zombies? Non of my White neighbors talk to each other. Unless there is a Hurricane or massive snowfall. Even then it’s “wow, a lot of snow or rain” as the case may be.

    in reply:
    It’s Not Working where you are.

    It can be no worse in the Northwest, and the only real limits on you, once you get there, are pretty much the ones you accept, for whatever reason.

    My advice to you:

    Do the Self-Directed Search, if only to find out what you DON’T want to do, and have NO skill for.

    Do Vocational Counseling, if your Adult Ed program offers it.

    Now, go to the Mayo Clinic’s BMI calculator; not the other ones, because they have been normed to the new normal.

    Now, GOOGLE the Marine Corps height-weight fitness test.

    Can you pass both?

    If not, now is the time to start.

    Then, take your skills analysis, and work TWO jobs (preferably full-time, if you aren’t doing anything substantial in the meanwhile) in that field, all the while getting the certification and credentials you will need to succeed in your field.

    Do THAT for a year.

    In the meanwhile, download the new STAR TREK movie trailer, and skip forward to the ONE MINUTE mark, where the word “PREPARE” appears on the screen.

    Take a screenshot of that, and make THAT your screensaver.

    In the trailer, you will see the young, uneducated, foolish, undirected, undisciplined James Tiberius Kirk be what he wants the world to become – my trademark phrase – when someone is on the deck of the Enterprise, and says, “We have no Captain, we have no First Officer to replace.”

    See what Kirk – beaten, battered, wearing a cadet uniform – says, and SEE THE LOOK IN HIS EYES WHEN HE SAYS IT. SEE HIS GODDAMN STANCE.

    If we get this right, THAT is what YOU will do, when you are needed, after you have been trained, schooled, and disciplined!

    Or, you can remain in backwards New Jersey, a member of a cursed minority, and just another damn loser, among all too many other…damn…losers.

  71. New America on March 6th, 2009 7:30 pm

    This is part of Edgar Steele’s latest email.

    Two weeks ago, I recorded several segments for a test radio show of my own that I increasingly doubt will see the light of day unless I simply release them on my own web site, which I may well do, as the contents rapidly are becoming stale. Stay tuned. I have had discussions with an upstart Internet radio network about a regular weekly show, but they seem unable to deliver the freight even on my test show, so I doubt the viability of a weekly show with them.

    Is there something going on that explains why we are getting shows out a week late, or more?

    Way back, I said all we needed to do is have people just do mp3′s, and upload them – no need for real-time phone work.

    i don’t doubt the technical skill of the people we have, and I have nothing but admiration for their willingness to put forth the effort to make this work.

    But, other people can do weekly shows with good production values like clockwork.

    We don’t need bleeding edge technology, but we really should just be throwing stuff out there with daily shows.

  72. Mishko Novosel on March 6th, 2009 7:54 pm

    New America, thanks for the heads up, I’m on it.

  73. Peter Schaenk on March 6th, 2009 9:53 pm

    Since Dietrich has decided to get personal by calling me out. I have a proposition. Anytime you would like to debate me on air re this issue feel free…

  74. New America on March 6th, 2009 10:15 pm

    in reply to Peter Schaenk:

    Respectfully, Peter, I think you know where I stand on these issues.

    Let Dietrich use his show to get his side out, and you can use your show to get you side out, as well as the Listener Comments and show threads.

    I think the focus should be on deliverables – actually getting shows up, say, the same day they go in. They can be done in mp3 using RecordPad, and a good microphone.

    You – and all of the hosts – can do a daily half-hour commentary in addition to the regaulr show, easily, if you so choose.

    I am frustrated that Edgar Steele – who has seen it all, and must despair – saw fit to all but accuse VOR of incompetence, and/or indifference, in what should be a fairly straightforward technical issue – send mp3 to x, upload x to VOR, include thread and show comments.

    It seem we aren’t getting that done; at least, not in a timely fashion.

    And Edgar looked at the first rate people – you, Dietrich, Mishko, Adrean, the Subie Sisters (I kind of miss James Hawthorne’s comments), and said, “GREAT! I am dealing with Adults, and Professionals. This will go well.”

    Obviously, it hasn’t, and your name is the one that will suffer.

    VOR started out with great behind-the-scene plans, and good for them; yet, the Drupal site is gone, the multiple streams are gone, and we are down to a basic WP foundation – no torrents, for example.

    I don’t have the big problem with this I might have had as a younger man, because I’ve worked on more than my share of projects where we were promised the resources to build Sky City, and, when the checks were finally – FINALLY! – cut, we were building the Shotgun Shack Trailer Park, and explaining to people why Sky City wasn’t happening.

    I am used to this, and it does not affect me as much as it used to.

    If people will listen to your 2008 interview with Steele, which is on this site, they will hear you wondering at just how bad “White Nationalism” really is, under the hood.

    The answer?

    Well, see my remarks to Celt_NJ in this thread.

    That having been said, we remain the best of what the White Nationalist/Western Nationalist Movement (WN2/M, aka “The Cause That Will Be”).

    We do seem to have our share of teething problems, but if we all start with the solid foundation of WP – and I do not rule out using another, better, WP theme – we can build up on a much more stable foundation.

    We have the best people – by far.

    That’s about as good as it gets, for now.

    Where we go from here is up to us.

  75. Mike Conner on March 6th, 2009 10:27 pm

    Relax, everyone. Mr. Steele’s concerns have been addressed, and the first show will air on VoR on Wed., Mar. 11, 2009.

    In response to New America:

    I think the focus should be on deliverables – actually getting shows up, say, the same day they go in. They can be done in mp3 using RecordPad, and a good microphone.

    (??) The show archive is usually up within 24 hours. If you wish to hear it sooner, then I suggest you tune in at the scheduled time.

    You – and all of the hosts – can do a daily half-hour commentary in addition to the regaulr show, easily, if you so choose.

    The broadcasters are unpaid volunteers who provide the time that have available. There is one show per day Mon. through Fri., and more shows are coming down the pike. Stay tuned.

    VOR started out with great behind-the-scene plans, and good for them; yet, the Drupal site is gone, the multiple streams are gone, and we are down to a basic WP foundation – no torrents, for example.

    [snip]

    We do seem to have our share of teething problems, but if we all start with the solid foundation of WP – and I do not rule out using another, better, WP theme – we can build up on a much more stable foundation.

    I am not sure why we would need the Drupal site. We have a WordPress site that does its job. We have multiple streams – low/high bandwidth, Winamp/WinMP. Distributing by torrents is a good idea.

  76. New America on March 6th, 2009 10:45 pm

    in reply to Mike Connor:

    One, thanks for clearing things up with Edgar Steele!

    Two, I guess I was spoiled when they went up the same day, usually an hour or two after the show aired.

    Three, the half-hour daily commentary show was simply something unique that could fill-out the time available, until more shows came along.

    Thanks again for clearing this up with Edgar Steele.

  77. New America on March 6th, 2009 10:48 pm

    in further reply to Mike Connor:

    I’m not saying we NEED the Drupal site.

    I said that was part of the Plan, back in the beginning.

    I only see one stream – the low bandwidth dial-up stream, but at least that one works.

    Thanks for all you do!

  78. Mike Conner on March 6th, 2009 11:05 pm

    I just tested all the streams and embedded players on this Web site, and I can’t find any problem.

  79. New America on March 6th, 2009 11:27 pm

    It’s all of my security features – not the site.

    Thanks again!

  80. Wolf on March 6th, 2009 11:49 pm

    I’ve heard Dietrich refer to Christ as “a jew on a stick” and we’re all painfully aware of his dim view of Christianity likening it to some sort of fem/docile/gay creed unfit for real men.

    My question: what is the motiviation for besmirching the very deeply held spiritual beleifs of so many VOR listeners? What’s the point? Is he channelling Karl Marx and his contempt for ideas that transcend earthly material gain? I have a clue for Dietrich and his ilk, the greatest scientific innovators in history were driven by the desire to read the mind of God and decipher his fantastic and mind boggling creation.

    Chew on that pagan boy.

  81. Peter Schaenk on March 7th, 2009 1:06 am

    Look at it this way:

    Christianity gave us a united White race and Western Civilization.

    Atheism gave us the Soviet Union.

  82. Scott on March 7th, 2009 1:38 am

    Amen Peter. That about sums it up.

    And we all know who the biggest Christ haters are.

  83. K-Sensor on March 7th, 2009 6:37 am

    I can’t see how you can understand the struggle (racial protection included) without knowing the battle between those that follow Jesus and those that oppose.

    Be it the Jacobite or the older Mystery school faction, they both have enslaved the populace and taught them atheism so as to take them to the level of beast. Without knowing the religion, is to ignore the universe.

    Dietrich seems an intelligent person but he’s a follow of others, not a thinker, else he would see through the lies of evolution.

    In no way am I trying to dishonour Dietrich or attacking him. We all have our own journey and milestones.

  84. buddy christ on March 7th, 2009 9:50 am

    “Dietrich seems an intelligent person but he’s a follow of others, not a thinker, else he would see through the lies of evolution.”

    He really should think for himself and follow the teachings of Moses and Jesus rather than being a follower.

    Everyone knows the world is only 6000 years old so there couldn’t have been dinosaurs or cave men. Those fossils were obviously put there by Satan to make us lose faith in the teachings of God.

    As Peter said Christianity gave us a united Europe and united Europe with Korea, Latin America, and united us with the descendants of the slaves. All paganism gave us was homosexuality and war. There hasn’t been one homo or one war since the Christians killed off all the pagans, and brought the teachings of God from the deserts tribes of Africa to the savage European barbarians. If you can’t see that you obviously have some self hate issues for not respecting the customs of your ancestors.

    Besides it isn’t that important if its true or not, as Peter said, “Atheism gave us the Soviet Union” and Christianity gave us the USSA. You would want a socialist in charge of America would you?

  85. Scott on March 7th, 2009 12:34 pm

    Buddy I’m not sure I”m following you other than it’s obvious your an atheist/pagan who makes strange leaps and generalizations about Christianity and to demonize Christianity

    Many creationists believe that man and dinosaurs coexisted and that the dinosaurs are mentioned in the Bible.

    Everything else you mentioned is due to the condition of the heart, ie sin and is a result man’s sinful and perverted nature including sodomites which is a mental sickness whether you’re a pagan or a Christian. You seem to confuse ‘religion’ with God’s law. If religious man followed God’s law this would be a good world, period.

    I would more properly state the the Jews gave us Bolshevism/communism and the Soviet Union has a stigma attached to it because of the perpetrators who gave it to them in the first place.

  86. zjim1984 on March 7th, 2009 12:49 pm

    “see through the lies of evolution”

    “Everyone knows the world is only 6000 years old so there couldn’t have been dinosaurs or cave men. Those fossils were obviously put there by Satan to make us lose faith in the teachings of God.”

    I hope these are jokes, evolution is not a theory but a fact.

  87. Celt_nj on March 7th, 2009 2:21 pm

    So far, March’s comment section has accomplished the following

    http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/1254/05a024651d46c6661135636.gif

    While you’re all worried about who’s a Christian or not, who’s Gay and who’s not and so on, the White Race is going extinct.

    Ever wonder why?

  88. Drew on March 7th, 2009 3:25 pm

    zjim 1984
    “evolution is not a theory but a fact”

    Really? I thought Darwin called it the Theory of Evolution, which actually has its roots not in science but in occult Cabalistic freemansonry brought to Europe from the far East. If you think about it, all it is is a variant form of occult alchemy. Darwin himself, toward the end of his life, doubted the validity of evolution to explain the complexity and origins of life–and feared that over time, it would be more likely to be proven false rather than true.

    And let’s not forget that the Protocols of Zion mention Darwinism as a false concept that they would promote in the universities to fool the goy into abandoning their faith.

    That said, it doesn’t necessarily follow that the story of Creation in the Bible must, therefore, be true. It is not an either/or intellectual proposition. Keep your mind open to other possibilities.

  89. Scott on March 7th, 2009 3:59 pm

    “”"I hope these are jokes, evolution is not a theory but a fact.”"

    Next to the global warming farce, that is the funniest comment I have heard this year.

    Thanks for the laugh. ;)

  90. Reck on March 7th, 2009 3:59 pm

    If evolution is a fact, why then are there still afreakin jews.

  91. K-Sensor on March 7th, 2009 4:07 pm

    lol Reck.

    Evolution and other Atheist Science is tied to Newtonian Physics, understandings that can’t fathom quantum mechanics and dimensions etc. As science moves ahead with new discoveries they are closer and closer explaining the wonders of God.

    Newton was fantastic but he was a step in the advancement of rediscovering knowledge. newton himself was a believer in God.

  92. zjim1984 on March 7th, 2009 4:15 pm

    I’ll rephrase: evolution is not a scientific theory but a scientific fact.

    “If evolution is a fact, why then are there still afreakin jews.”

    I think K Mac’s darwinistic thesis is based heavily on this idea.

  93. zjim1984 on March 7th, 2009 4:30 pm

    Evolution is everywhere, or maybe the grace of god is everywhere. Either way the earth is much older than 6000 years.

  94. K-Sensor on March 7th, 2009 4:48 pm

    Most Christians believe the Earth is less than 15 thousand years old.

    There no evidence that man hasn’t existed for longer than above figure. There is zero proof of evolution between spices.

    Evolution fraternity is wholly weighted on the inaccurate carbon dating technique.

    There is plenty of proof of a great flood, both in cultural history, the strata layouts, fossil placements, petrified trees upside down in layers that are supposed to be millions of years between, the distance man has traveled the earth and populated, DNA background to migration of man, etc.

    Man has only existed a short time. Probably around 10K years.

  95. Reck on March 7th, 2009 4:52 pm

    Yes, evolution is not a theory but a fact but, where are the facts, we came from pond scum ?

    evolution revolution.
    Microsoft evolves. Not pro white men and women…..

    Cave-Men still exist, hence the jew.

  96. Buddy christ on March 7th, 2009 5:14 pm

    Evolution or evil-jew-shen[anigans] is based on non-Euclidean geometry as well as Newtonian physics (which cannot account for E=mc2) where E is evolution, m is mosad and c2 represents the Creation of Adam and Eve.

    Euclid was a roman catholic and a stow away on Noah’s Arc, who recreated the jews by mixing a tapir and a skunk, and negroes by mixing a mule and a chimpanzee. This is all proven by the Jesuit take over of the vatican in the 1960′s.

    I would offer to make a drawing but graven images are blasphemous in the eyes of the lord. But it’s plain as day that evolution never happened, look at any monkey long enough and its still a monkey, case closed.

    Obviously we are created by the magic finger of God and holy mud. It’s right there in the bible and God said his word is perfect so case closed.

    All the science in the world cannot change the fact that ‘God said’. And this only proves that science is the work of the Devil.

    Stick that in your pipe, you pagan atheists.

  97. Scott on March 7th, 2009 6:16 pm

    Micro-evolution will never be proved.

    Most scientists willing admit that DNA appears to have been designed (intelligently) accept of course those atheists who have a hardened heart. (stubborn to be blunt)

    While an intelligent creator may seem to be an impossible belief (it requires faith), so does the belief that I came from a rock (which requires faith).

  98. New America on March 7th, 2009 6:18 pm

    in reply to Celt_NJ:

    you wrote:

    So far, March’s comment section has accomplished the following

    http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/1254/05a024651d46c6661135636.gif

    While you’re all worried about who’s a Christian or not, who’s Gay and who’s not and so on, the White Race is going extinct.

    in reply:
    I address all concerns that, for every person who says something, a good thousand people have the same concerns.

    Thus, my responses are not merely to the one person, but to the thousands who are watching with the same issues.

    I thought, all in all, my responses to you concerning the New Jersey WNist were remarkably thoughtful, heartfelt, considered, and honest.

    Best of all, they were placed in the greatest context available to someone in your place, at this time – the path of Racial Greatness, starting with who you are, where you are.

    Thus, when you ask the question:

    Ever wonder why?

    I can tell you why.

    Look in the damn mirror.

    I made references to your weight, your skills, your employment, and your future.

    And you – YOU – have addressed none of them.

    I’ve explained this repeatedly, and I’ll explain i again:

    Sky God Pierce, Sky God Rockwell, Sky God Uncle Adolph, are not coming back.

    Sky God NJ WNists/Survivalists are not coming to your aid.

    As a Child, you are the result of many forces outside yourself, and, to a remarkable degree, you are what has been done to you..

    As an Adult, to an incredible degree, you are what you do.

    Take a few minutes and write out an a piece of paper what you have done today, hour by hour, and how ANY of it ties in with you achieving greater goals than you have now.

    None of it does.

    All you want to do is SURVIVE.

    I’ll make this easy for you.

    None of the survivalists made a better world, for none of them worked to Create the smallest part of Community needed to allow the Race to fulfill its heritage.

    Organization defeats disorganization, every time.

    Look at the Judaics – hyperorganized, and then look at us.

    All we want to do is “survive,” and all they want to do is rule, by deception, and unity.

    Incidentally, I’ll tell you where you can find some of your New Jersey Wnist “Survivalists.”

    Twelve Step Meetings.

    Remember = they were losers, then, they are losers, now, and a loser is just a loser.

    What does this mean to you?

  99. Scott on March 7th, 2009 6:19 pm

    Ladies/Gentlemen:

    If you do nothing else this weekend, please check this link out and I mean seriously. It’s a Video lecture that explains EXACTLY how the Jewish mafia on Wall Street works (and manipulate Wikipedia). It has received the highest praise by those who have watched it and the gentlemen would make for an excellent guest:

    http://antisocialmedia.net/lecture1/player.html

    This info must be dispersed and shall we NEVER FORGET

  100. Peter Schaenk on March 7th, 2009 8:13 pm

    The U.S.S.A. is a product of the secularization process that the Jews started roughly 100 years ago.

    Our country is not representative of Western Civilization and it’s Christian principals and it hasn’t been for quite a while.

    Can you seriously argue that Christian priests in America are responsible for the state we are in today, when compared to Jews who have pushed atheism / secularism for over 100 years in this country and abroad?

    Can you seriously argue that Jews do not push Atheism as par for the course with their agenda of a JWO?

    Lastly, how can anyone deny the popularity of modern day atheism is due mostly to Jews promoting it as the “intellectually superior” model when compared to Christianity?

    The Jewish intelligentsia are also responsible for the popularity of atheism on college campuses throughout America, Europe and Scandinavia.

  101. Celt_NJ on March 7th, 2009 8:24 pm

    time – the path of Racial Greatness, starting with who you are, where you are.

    New America Wrote:

    I can tell you why.

    Look in the damn mirror.

    I made references to your weight, your skills, your employment, and your future.

    And you – YOU – have addressed none of them.

    I’ve explained this repeatedly, and I’ll explain i again:

    Sky God Pierce, Sky God Rockwell, Sky God Uncle Adolph, are not coming back.

    Sky God NJ WNists/Survivalists are not coming to your aid.

    As a Child, you are the result of many forces outside yourself, and, to a remarkable degree, you are what has been done to you..

    As an Adult, to an incredible degree, you are what you do.

    Take a few minutes and write out an a piece of paper what you have done today, hour by hour, and how ANY of it ties in with you achieving greater goals than you have now.

    None of it does.

    ———————–

    What in God’s name are you going about? I don’t have any “Sky Gods” that you mentioned. And what references to my weight or employment have anything to do with the problem at hand?

    If I lose weight, the illegals will go home? If I change my job, affirmative action laws will be repealed?

    The only thing that will effect change for Whites is for Whites to meet up and band together in real life. The never ending strange dogma of White men claiming that bettering yourself personally and hiding in a bunker will bring magic and change the world. It will not. Never has and never will.

    Jews don’t think that way. Blacks don’t think that way. Hispanics don’t think that way. Muslims don’t think that way.

    Could that be the reason *they* get evering thing they want in the US while Whites lose everything?

  102. New America on March 7th, 2009 8:39 pm

    in reply to Celt_NJ:

    I wrote, in part:

    Take a few minutes and write out an a piece of paper what you have done today, hour by hour, and how ANY of it ties in with you achieving greater goals than you have now.

    None of it does.</blockquote cite=”

    you replied:

    What in God’s name are you going about? I don’t have any “Sky Gods” that you mentioned. And what references to my weight or employment have anything to do with the problem at hand?

    If I lose weight, the illegals will go home? If I change my job, affirmative action laws will be repealed?

    in reply:
    In and of themselves, no.

    But it’s not about the illegals, or the affirmative actions laws, in and of themselves.

    It’s about a mindset, a State of Mind.

    I’ll explain, using your own example.

    you wrote:

    The only thing that will effect change for Whites is for Whites to meet up and band together in real life.

    in reply:
    And when will that happen?

    When someone steps forward, and, using reasonable sounding terms, wearing a nice suit and tie, speaks at community meetings on the issues that derive from Race. In doing so, they speak intelligently, about Families, Family Values, and the importance of Civilization.

    THIS WORKED FOR OBAMA.

    This did NOT work for the NJ Wnists, because, right about now, they are looking for the DUR checkpoints.

    It can work for some of us.

    Why not you?

    you wrote:

    The never ending strange dogma of White men claiming that bettering yourself personally and hiding in a bunker will bring magic and change the world. It will not. Never has and never will.

    in reply:
    One, “bettering yourself personally” is the ONLY way to “change the world”; at least, change YOUR part of the world is an excellent place to start.

    Two, “hiding in a bunker” is the choice of the WNist survivalists, the losers, the failures, the cowards.

    Besides, in such fantasy situations, the people OUTSIDE the bunker will just wait you out, and, when you die, take what you have that is left.

    you wrote:

    Jews don’t think that way. Blacks don’t think that way. Hispanics don’t think that way. Muslims don’t think that way.

    Could that be the reason *they* get evering thing they want in the US while Whites lose everything?

    in reply:
    “They” get what “they” want, because “they” organize, successfully and exclusively, along Racial lines.

    Period.

  103. New America on March 7th, 2009 11:10 pm

    to correct the last post to Celt_NJ:

    I wrote:

    “This did NOT work for the NJ Wnists, because, right about now, they are looking for the DUR checkpoints.”

    That SHOULD have been:

    “This did NOT work for the NJ WNists, because, right about now, they are looking for the DUI checkpoints.”

    And you can bet they have extensive, first-hand experience with the DUI system.

    Losers.

  104. Buddy christ on March 7th, 2009 11:23 pm

    All excellent points Peter, but maybe you could touch on how the jews have hijacked the catholic church through Vatican II, and hijacked protestantism through evangelical christianity and christian zionism.

    As you have said before peter “they play both sides against the middle” so while we are here trying to decide if judeo christianity or judeo athism is the best way forward, the jews are trying to decide which tastes better gentiles or goyim.

    And to all those athiest pagans, as proof of how manly christianity is, consider this. In all your pagan religions its a woman god that gives birth to creation, but in christianity its a man god that gives birth – how manly is that? Are you man enough to give birth?

  105. New America on March 7th, 2009 11:58 pm

    Just got Dietrich and Mishko’s 27 feb 09 show, and will do a commentary on that thread.

    For a moment, a quick issue.

    I think Dietrich and Peter are coming from the issue from two different, but quite complementary perspectives.

    I think Dietrich is STARTING with Race, as the primary organizing principle, and from there, to the White Race as the ONLY Race where Christianity could take hold. Christianity, in such a system, reflects cultural meldings, but ultimately is limited by the Racial quality – the quality of soil into which the seed falls, if you will.

    I think Peter is starting with Christianity as the true starting point of Western Civilization, which only the White Race can make work. Indeed, just as, to Dietrich, only the White Race could make Christianity work at all, to Peter, only the White Race can make the process of Civilization work at all, and only the union of the White Race with Christianity makes Western Civilization possible.

    Second, I think Peter is trying to fix America by making it possible for Western Civilization to flourish with greater power and authority; again, Christianity is the prime motivating force for the culture of Western Civilization.

    In turn, I think Dietrich sees America as more of a cultural moment in the development of the West, and a way station for the White Race to achieve ever greater goals, in the fulfillment of a transcendent Racial Purpose.

    Part of what seems to be a conflict seems to be a distinction between Christianity as a means to an End – a RACIAL End (the Dietrich position), and Christianity as an End unto Itself (the Schaenk position).

    I think this is a starting point to reconcile what seem to be conflicting views:

    Dietrich, starting with Race, working to Civilization, Western Civilization, and Christianity as part and parcel of Western Civilization, and Peter, starting with Christ, working through to Race, to Christianity, and through to Western Civilization.

    By Christianity, of course, I mean the Institutional Forms as well as the Substance of Christ operating in those Institutions.

    Of course, I might be wrong!

  106. Drew on March 8th, 2009 9:05 am

    K Sensor wrote:
    “There is zero proof of evolution between spices.”

    Correct. While there is ample proof of adaptation through natural selection, there is scant evidence for speciation, i.e., one species morphing into another. DNA is stable and by necessity resists any fundamental, permanent changes, which are called mutations, most of which prove lethal to an organism.

    Remove the pre-supposition of evolution as a ‘fact’, and Lucy (australopithecus) would be nothing more than what she is: a tiny pile of bones from an extinct form of ape that died out for the very reason that her genotype could not adapt successfully to environmental changes.

    Evolutionary ‘science’ has been nothing more than a frustrating attempt at carefully selecting factual evidence from nature and the fossil record to fit the theory. If you did some serious reading on it, you’d find that tons of evidence contradicting evolution has been discovered, discarded and suppressed.

  107. zjim1984 on March 8th, 2009 3:17 pm

    discovered, discarded and suppressed.

    discovered by the faithful, discarded by the scientist, and suppressed by no one

  108. Reck on March 9th, 2009 9:10 pm

    Single vs. Engaged vs. MARRIED!!

    Sipping her drink, the single girl leered and said, “Last Friday at the end of the work day I went to my boyfriend’s office wearing a leather coat. When all the other people had left, I slipped out of it and all I had on was a leather bodice, black stockings and stiletto heels. He was so aroused that we made passionate love on his desk right then and there!”

    The engaged woman giggled and said, “That’s pretty much my story! When my fiancé got home last Friday, he found me waiting for him in a black mask, leather bodice, black hose and stiletto pumps. He was so turned on that we not only had sex all night, he wants to move up our wedding date!

    “The married woman put her glass down and said, “I did a lot of planning.
    I made arrangements for the kids to stay over at Grandma’s. I took a long scented-oil bath and then put on my best perfume. I slipped into a tight leather bodice, a black garter belt, black stockings and six-inch stilettos. I finished it off with a black mask. When my husband got home from work, he grabbed a beer and the remote, sat down and yelled, ‘Hey, Batman, what’s for dinner?’”

  109. Reck on March 9th, 2009 9:15 pm

    Great videos as well…@

    http://www.drdino.com/

  110. Anonymous on March 9th, 2009 9:52 pm

    Was Prothink Radio Worldwide on tonight?

  111. Mike Conner on March 9th, 2009 10:34 pm

    No, the Prothink gang took a night off this week. Look for them next Monday.

  112. Reck on March 9th, 2009 11:19 pm

    http://www.drdino.com/media-categories.php?c=

    Scroll on down and view a few.

  113. Celt_NJ on March 10th, 2009 3:44 pm

    Drew on March 8th, 2009 9:05 am Wrote:

    K Sensor wrote:
    “There is zero proof of evolution between spices.”

    Correct. While there is ample proof of adaptation through natural selection, there is scant evidence for speciation, i.e., one species morphing into another. DNA is stable and by necessity resists any fundamental, permanent changes, which are called mutations, most of which prove lethal to an organism.

    Remove the pre-supposition of evolution as a ‘fact’, and Lucy (australopithecus) would be nothing more than what she is: a tiny pile of bones from an extinct form of ape that died out for the very reason that her genotype could not adapt successfully to environmental changes.

    ———————

    Very true. Those that survive are not the smartest or strongest but those willing to adapt. Since the White is now unwilling to adapt to the destruction of Western Civilization by getting off their asses from behind a keyboard their fate is that of the Dodo Bird.

    Maybe the Dinosaurs had an internet too. They, instead of meeting up with each other for mutual help and support, bitch slapped each other to death on the Dino Net over which ‘God’ sent the asteroid to kill them.

  114. New America on March 10th, 2009 7:08 pm

    in further reply to Celt_NJ:

    This is a quote from one of the posts on Harold Covington’s OTHER site, describing people who are Taking The Gap, and Coming Home:

    I asked her why she was leaving the land where they were both born, and I can’t help but wonder how often this story is being replicated all through the country, by thousands of individuals and families who have no connection whatsoever with the RCC but who catch a glimpse of those mountains and pines and deep blue lakes and pounding surf on the rocks and know, instinctively in their hearts, that this land is our people’s destiny and gift.

    His other site is http://nwhomeland.blogspot.com/

    Look at the Losers of the nominally WNist “Community” of New Jersey.

    If you don’t want to do better, ask yourself why – why – you want to be the last White Man in a Second World country.

  115. Crack_Smoke_Republican on March 10th, 2009 8:27 pm

    Obama and US commander discuss military intervention in Mexico
    By Bill Van Auken
    10 March 2009
    http://www.iraq-war.ru/article/191818

  116. Celt_NJ on March 11th, 2009 2:26 pm

    New America Wrote:

    Look at the Losers of the nominally WNist “Community” of New Jersey.

    If you don’t want to do better, ask yourself why – why – you want to be the last White Man in a Second World country.

    ———

    “Losers” run away and give up their nations to third world infestations. You are the problem, not the solution. For the hundredth time, I do not wish to and will not run away to Idaho. Offering surrender or hiding is the reason Whites are in this mess.

    And is exactly what the enemy wants us to do.

  117. New America on March 11th, 2009 6:30 pm

    in reply to Celt_NJ:

    I wrote:

    Look at the Losers of the nominally WNist “Community” of New Jersey.

    If you don’t want to do better, ask yourself why – why – you want to be the last White Man in a Second World country.

    you replied:

    “Losers” run away and give up their nations to third world infestations. You are the problem, not the solution. For the hundredth time, I do not wish to and will not run away to Idaho. Offering surrender or hiding is the reason Whites are in this mess.

    And is exactly what the enemy wants us to do.

    in reply:
    You seem to have ignored, or dismissed, much of my analysis and commentary.

    Again, all that I write is designed to address no one person, but the thousands who will be watching from the sidelines.

    Your reply makes my point.

    In the first part of your reply, you noted:

    “Losers” run away and give up their nations to third world infestations. You are the problem, not the solution.

    Yet, to a remarkable degree, this has already happened.

    Have you been to Camden, or Wildwood?

    Did you need to speak Ebonics, or Bordello Mexican, to make it through safely?

    Again, Terrible Tommy Metzger’s point is the most astute, and the most correct:

    WE LET THIS HAPPEN TO US.

    Are YOU going to save Camden, or Wildwood, or so many other places where the Illegals have more “rights” than you do?

    No.

    Let’s not mince words, for I see you as a microcosm of contemporary “White Nationalism.”

    I made some suggestions for your basic physical health, citing the Mayo Clinic, for the true BMI number, and the Marine Corps MINIMUM height/weight standards.

    Silent on that, are we?

    Have something to hide, do we?

    That is par for so many who call themselves “White Nationalists,” I’m afraid.

    These childhood fantasies of “stand and fight,” when the Alamo has been lost, are most enchanting.

    The cavalry didn’t arrive in time, at the Alamo, and it isn’t going to arrive in time, for us, unless we BECOME the cavalry.

    i use Harold Covington’s Northwest Republic Analytical Model as an Analytical Model for what is possible is enough of us move in that direction in our own lives.

    What would you do in such a place?

    Why aren’t you doing that now?

    Peter Schaenk made the best observation ever on what WNist have made of themselves in light of the issue of RACE:

    He said (paraphrasing):

    “What would you do if, tomorrow, as if by magic, all of the Illegals, all of the Coloreds, all of the Jews, all just disappeared, a if by magic?

    Why aren’t you doing that?

    What are you doing in New Jersey that you COULD do in the Northwest, where you could make a place for your Family, where none could make afraid?

    Why aren’t you AT LEAST doing that?

    THAT is The Question that brings the sounds of silence in reply.

    And that silence is the silence of the lambs, the silence of the professional Losers.

    To paraphrase, from the new Star Trek movie:

    I Challenge You To Do Better.

    God knows, that can’t be hard.

  118. Reck on March 11th, 2009 11:20 pm

    A great icon passes:

    Please join me in remembering a great icon of the entertainment community…

    The Pillsbury Doughboy died yesterday of a yeast infection and trauma complications from repeated pokes in the belly. He was 71. Doughboy was buried in a lightly greased coffin. Dozens of celebrities turned out to pay their respects, including Mrs. Butterworth, Hungry Jack, the California Raisins, Betty Crocker, the Hostess Twinkies, and Captain Crunch. The grave site was piled high with flours ..

    Aunt Jemima delivered the eulogy and lovingly described Doughboy as a man who never knew how much he was kneaded. Doughboy rose quickly in show business, but his later life was filled with turnovers. He was not considered a very smart cookie, wasting much of his dough on half-baked schemes. Despite being a little flaky at times, he still was a crusty old man and was considered a positive roll model for millions.

    Doughboy is survived by his wife Play Dough, three children: John Dough, Jane Dough and Dosey Dough, plus they had one in the oven. He is also survived by his elderly father, Pop Tart. The funeral was held at 3:50 for about 20 minutes.

    If this made you smile for even a brief second, please rise to the occasion and take time to pass it on and share that smile with someone else who may be having a crumby day and kneads a lift.

    Cheers, Reck~Less, Abandon

  119. K-Sensor on March 12th, 2009 3:01 am

    FOR THOSE INTERESTED ;

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  120. K-Sensor on March 12th, 2009 3:04 am

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  121. K-Sensor on March 12th, 2009 4:34 am

    A better version in MOV Quicktime H264 format ;

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    The other version is wmv, which is hard to edit due to Microsoft’s limitation of copyrights and their enforcements.

  122. K-Sensor on March 12th, 2009 9:07 am

    Alex Jones has Webster Tarpley on Obama Deception saying that the New World Order is the Anglo-America World Order.

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  123. Hibernian on March 12th, 2009 10:09 am

    I really enjoyed independent filmmaker Craig Bodeker’s recent interview by Peter.

    I ordered a copy of Bodecker’s documentary film ‘A Conversation About Race’ and was blown away by it’s insights and quality. Professional stuff.

    I highly recommend people support the film by picking up a copy at http://www.aconversationaboutrace.com

    We need to support those among us who are creating new media.

    On that note, VOR needs a PO Box for donations. I’ve had several people ask me where to send same of late.

    Dietrich, Mark, and everyone else at VOR are doing an outstanding job.

  124. Mishko Novosel on March 12th, 2009 12:22 pm

    Hibernian,

    I’m planning on having a PO Box by the end of day. I actually went to a place yesterday, but they had gone out of business.

    And thank you for the kind words.

    Regards,

    Mark

  125. Hibernian on March 12th, 2009 12:34 pm

    Good deal, Mark.

    I’ll be good for a monthly donation, and will encourage others to do the same.

  126. Celt_NJ on March 12th, 2009 3:19 pm

    New America Wrote:
    Have you been to Camden, or Wildwood?

    —-

    NJ outside of the Camden and the Northest is mostly White.

    Have you been to Denver? Idaho is now infested with illegals being hired by WHITES and is home to meth labs and other illegals alien dope operations.

    Your northwest paradise is infected along with the rest of the nation. What are the so-called “White Nationalists” doing about it?
    Nothing. Only piss and moan on the internets. And when you guys do go outside you scream “I’m a racist!” instead of sticking to the issue and putting them on the defensive.

    It’s time for so-called “White Nationalists” to step aside. And stop telling other Whites to remain helpless they have been for so many years.

    The same insane dribble on every WN related board I’ve posted on.

  127. New America on March 12th, 2009 3:54 pm

    in reply to Celt_NJ:

    you wrote:

    New America Wrote:
    Have you been to Camden, or Wildwood?

    you replied:

    NJ outside of the Camden and the Northest is mostly White.

    Have you been to Denver? Idaho is now infested with illegals being hired by WHITES and is home to meth labs and other illegals alien dope operations.

    in reply:
    I didn’t say Denver.

    There are problems everywhere, but they can be resolved with the right people “Thinking Racial, Acting Local.”

    There are more such people in the Northwest regions I described than there are in New Jersey; more people, and better people.

    Why do you think our best natural leader, Robert Mathews, started where he did, and not in New Jersey?

    Where do you think he would start today?

    you wrote:

    Your northwest paradise is infected along with the rest of the nation. What are the so-called “White Nationalists” doing about it?

    in reply:
    You’ve hit upon a point that needs discussion, and clarification.

    Peter Schanek said it best, and I’ll paraphrase him:

    “When we use the terms and frames of reference our Racial Enemies have chosen for us, we have already lost. When you call yourself a “racist,” a term THEY created solely to define you to THEIR satisfaction, you have already lost.

    To use a marketing analogy, “The Brand Called ‘White’” has been driven down in brand value for more than half a century, through continuous indoctrination in what is called the public education system, and all of the mass media available to our Racial Enemies.

    Simultaneously, they have undermined the value of the ORGANIC Nation, as well as the foundation of the organic Nation, the nuclear, Patriarchal Family.

    The UNION of these devalued terms, “White” and “Nationalist,” simply multiplies their negative connotations.

    We can DO SOMETHING about that. but that is the battle – and duty – of generations.

    Remember this – the rest of the world, the lesser Races, claim to hate us, but love to be with us, in OUR Communities, in OUR schools, in OUR places of employment, in all that only WE can Create, and make better, and better, and better.

    More, and better – MUCH better – is being done in the Northwest.

    NOTHING better is being done in New Jersey.

    Bet on it.

    If you want to settle for second best, AT BEST, then say so, and remain where you were, yesterday, and where you will be, tomorrow, and forever.

    The rest of us – the BEST of us – have a new nation to Create.

    you wrote:

    Nothing. Only piss and moan on the internets. And when you guys do go outside you scream “I’m a racist!” instead of sticking to the issue and putting them on the defensive.

    in reply:
    Only the Losers go out, scream “I’m a RACIST!” and go back inside, crack open a case of Budweiser, and watch the NCAA in HD, on the big plasma screen they went in hock to buy.

    They’re Losers, an remember, “A Loser Is Just A Loser.”

    The Northwest offers a tremendous future, IF you are willing to make it happen.

    That offer will be accepted, silently, and gratefully, by the many others who are fleeing what America has become, particularly in Southern California.

    you wrote:

    It’s time for so-called “White Nationalists” to step aside. And stop telling other Whites to remain helpless they have been for so many years.

    in reply:
    They have CHOSEN “to remain helpless,” by accepting the terms and definitions of their Racial Enemies, particularly as they have seen them on television.

    They will pay a horrific price for their lack of Masculine choice; they, and their heirs.

    Don’t join them.

    Make SOMETHING of yourself.

    you wrote:

    The same insane dribble on every WN related board I’ve posted on.

    in reply:
    Again, I Challenge You To DO BETTER.

    Did you check out the Mayo Clinic guidelines on the BMI, and did you check out the Marine Corps guidelines for height and weight?

    That’s pretty simply to do, and it’s pretty obvious why you don’t want to do that.

    The hour is late.

    You must Be What You Want The World To Become, as NOBODY else will do it for you, and, frankly, they have their own problems, and no time for you.

    As well, remember this:

    If you are REMOTELY successful, you will have succeeded where they have failed.

    And that will be their humiliation, and rightfully so.

    Don’t accept their terms, their definitions, their side of the War of Perception, and don’t let them Define You DOWN to their level.

    Do BETTER.

  128. K-Sensor on March 12th, 2009 5:11 pm

    Hibernian if we are ever to get collections of things then documentaries books and cultural dramas are fitting. It’s good to have a bookshelf with all the good stuff.

  129. Reck on March 12th, 2009 7:13 pm
  130. Reck on March 12th, 2009 7:14 pm
  131. Hibernian on March 14th, 2009 9:26 am

    Mark announced that VOR now has a P.O. Box for donations, fan letters, Beer-of-the-Month gratis memberships for your favorite broadcaster, etc :)

    Very cool and very needed. Thanks for taking care of that, dude.

    So now it is time for us, the VOR listening audience, to step up and help out.

    You still reading? Nice.

    I fully understand that times are tough for a lot of our people, but most everyone, with pretty minimal sacrifice, can spare 5, 10 or 20 bucks.

    Remember guys, a little is one whole hell of a lot better than nothing at all.

    My donation went out today.

    I’m really hoping that VOR is surprised by the number of well-deserved donations they get over the next few weeks.

    On a personal note, for the sake of nostalgia, I’m going to now publicly ask any former Special Projects Unit members who read this thread (you guys know who you are) to try and get a little something in the mail before the end of March as well if you are at all able. You SPU guys were the ones who banded together and helped before, and I love you guys (and gals) for doing it.

    Let’s pull together as a group and help out one more time, SPU.

    At this time, ONLY Cash & Blank Money-Orders are usable.

    Secured cash (with no return address if you wish) gets there just fine. I’ve sent cash for 20 years with either no return address or a humorous fictitious one and never had a single problem.

    I always suggest using a Christmas/Birthday card w/enclosed cash. Simple and secure.

    Just grab a left-over card you have or purchase a cheap one. Buying a card gives you the added bonus of freaking Mark out with your card selection. The SPU used to use “Happy Bar-Mitzvah” cards, lol.

    Send cash or blank money-order ONLY to:

    RRN
    1443 EAST WASHINGTON BLVD
    #280
    PASADENA CA 91104

    Grab an oar and help row the damn boat! :)

  132. K-Sensor on March 14th, 2009 3:28 pm

    Webmasters it would be good to see the latest comments list on the main page. Usually I click a host release link to see the list.

  133. K-Sensor on March 14th, 2009 3:32 pm

    Under the VOR Icon on the right column..

  134. Susie on March 14th, 2009 3:36 pm

    Hibernian,
    Thank you. And also if you send it certified, it goes through locked bags and WILL arrive. You can also insure it for WAY over the amount just in case.

    If anyone wants to put a return address on it, use mine at P.O. Box 1337, Grove City, Ohio 43123
    Susie

  135. K-Sensor on March 14th, 2009 3:41 pm

    I heard a women called Rita on RBN talking to Lorraine Day. Rita I think maybe the same women that calls into shows here. Well she was saying that the Maccabees scriptures in the Vulgate are the background to the Catholic Establishment validity.

    The question is, weren’t the Maccabees Jews practising Talmudic Judaism and fought to retain Talmudism?

  136. Mike Conner on March 14th, 2009 3:51 pm

    K-Sensor: In case someone writes a profane or malicious comment, we don’t want it to appear on the front page. For this reason, the latest comments were removed from the front page deliberately. Sorry, but we’re dealing with the Internet here.

  137. K-Sensor on March 14th, 2009 3:54 pm

    ok Mike

  138. Reck on March 14th, 2009 9:13 pm
  139. Crack_Smoke_Republican on March 15th, 2009 3:24 pm

    Enough Fag and Religious talk people – Faggotry is a sickness and a good Religion forbids it.
    ——-
    Americas Colossal Catastrophe Is Brewing Just South Of Its Borders

    Tuesday, March 10, 2009
    America’s Next Catastrophe Is Brewing Just South Of Its Borders
    As if there were not enough things to worry about for the US, what with a dieing economy, a spend happy neo-Marxist government in power, a stalemated war in Iraq and a loosing war in Afghanistan, here comes one more issue and the one that may create the final perfect storm: Mexico.

    http://mat-rodina.blogspot.com/2009/03/americas-next-catastrophy-is-brewing.html

  140. New America on March 17th, 2009 3:02 am

    Thoughts on the Cause, and Becoming A Movement (1)

    I’ve been thinking about the Red Pill, the Blue Pill (from “The Matrix”), and I realize that accepting what we call White Nationalism is not unlike accepting a new spiritual orientation – not like rejecting a religion, but seeing what has been in the openly hidden core of the religion all of the time.

    And, at that point, you will be tested in your New Faith.

    At THAT point, you see the same world through new eyes, and you don’t have the safe, comfortable, soft, death-dealing framework of lies – controlling lies, lies that keep you in line – to support you any more.

    The Child within you REALLY wants to return back to the Blue Pill world, the clearly defined and understood world, even if those definitions were false, and even if the understanding was a tragically incomplete misunderstanding.

    However, Individuation – the key to Adulthood – requires you STAND UP; yes, it will seem as if you are standing very alone, but that’s ok, because, in time, you’ll realize you wouldn’t want to go back to the Child State of Consciousness, the nice, soft, deadly Blue Pill.

    Metzger, his guy Lone Wolf Radio Man, and several others have said, in effect, that life would have been a lot easier if they had never taken the Red Pill, if they had never “Awoken” on the issue of Racial Consciousness.

    The life would have been a lot easier, and it would have been a big damn lie, comfortable, for a season, but all too uncomfortable, when the Real World came crashing in, forcing them to Grow, or Die.

    What happens when they fail to grow, and get angry at their perceived helplessness in the world around them.

    Alcoholism, and obesity due to eating a LOT of comfort food.

    In effect, most of those who have publicly self-identified as White Nationalists failed The Test, and retreated into a comfortable past that never was, and alcohol, and comfort food.

    You can never go home again.

    They never really wanted to leave, if the price of leaving meant leaving their soft, safe illusions behind.

    They did not make it to the Adult State of Consciousness, much less the disciplined, Conquest-oriented focus of the Warrior.

    I suspect that those of us who do *ahem* “Take The Gap” (apologies to Covington!) discover that this is the ONLY path to personal spiritual growth, for yourself, adn the path of racial Greatness.

    What has stopped this on such a colossal scale is the continued attack, for the last century, of our Racial Enemies on insuring that anything resembling the Warrior Class never gets started, psychologically speaking.

    Thus, there are fewer and fewer Warrior Males there to understand what is going on, and, much more importantly, understand how to help build frameworks to bring this to POSITIVE fruition.

    I can’t blame Metzger, up to a point, as he has been stabbed in the back so often, and functionally betrayed by people who claim to support his beliefs fo often, that he simply has retreated to the small, clean, pure world of resist.com.

    Yet, VOR has demonstrated the willingness to take him on his own terms, and is the only outlet where he could lecture on the importance of Jack London to the White Racial Struggle, and be accepted, and understood.

    As well, VOR can accept the new Metzger – (Fourteen Words, Five Words, and NO eighty-eight!) – and provide him with an outlet where people can work with the good he has so painfully earned, for himself, and his Race.

    One at a time, until we get to One Percent.

    More to follow.

  141. New America on March 17th, 2009 3:27 pm

    Thoughts on the Cause, and Becoming A Movement (2)

    As a rule, I don’t like discussing others, but I have mentioned Metzger, and his associate, in the Red Pill/Blue Pill controversy, and I see challenges before us in this.

    I will use one example to illustrate this.

    Alex Linder.

    My dispute with Alex is common knowledge, and all you have to do it go to VNN’s Main Page/blog, go to the SEARCH box, and type in “Kevin Alfred Strom.”

    I think Linder hit the point, psychologically, where is is close to forty, and everyone I know who is forty looked at his life and said, “I’ve been a fool.”

    So, here’s Linder, facing a perfect Red Pill/Blue Pill dilemma; if he had stayed away from public activism on the topic of Race, and the Jews, he would probably be part of a stable of drone “reporters” and editors who struggle to make a living.

    However, because Conservatives and Patriotards are so scared of the future, and so trusting of the proper Authorities, they are a base that can be milked as long as they have money.

    (They don’t have any money, any more.)

    I think this is part of why he seems to strike out in anger every now and again; I think it’s mostly because he is angry we all haven’t taken the Red Pill, and partially because he looks at the soft trap offered by the Blue Pill.

    God knows how Edgar Steele does it, defending people whose grievous misunderstanding of their “rights” in general, and their “inalienable, God-given ‘Constitutional’ rights,” in particular, make them easy prey for the various attorneys the Establishment has at its disposal.

    The problem with the “Movement” failures is this:

    They could not handle the second half of the Twentieth Century, and could not function for very long in an Adult social environment.

    LISTEN to them, and, with few exceptions, they are all looking to return a world, and a way of life, that is gone, forever.

    In hindsight, I see Margaret Mitchell’s description of Scarlett O’Hara’s father, AFTER Tara had been destroyed by the Yankee soldiers, to be so accurate in describing so many of the “Movement ‘Leaders.’”

    In short, Scarlett’s father was stuck in the Blue Pill world, which had its foundations ripped away, and everything BASED on those foundations exposed as soft, weak, and incapable of supporting growth for the New Order that had won…

    I have often wondered why so many “Movement ‘Leaders’” spoke so fondly of the Confederate States of America, not realizing the economic foundations of the Confederacy would not have help up past 1861, when the Egyptian and Indian Cotton fields came online.

    It’s simple.

    The Confederacy, to them, is a Blue Pill state of mind; warm, soft, comfortable, safe, and full of beautiful women and strong, successful men.

    See the same Confederacy through the Red Pill state of mind. Economically weak, horrifically indebted, economically unsustainable, and easily outmaneuvered by The Future – Yankee railroads, Yankee artillery, and a damn near infinite supply of Yankee soldiers imported from Europe.

    Racial unity – their one strength – was undermined by de facto class warfare against the White yeomanry…

    And so, the “Movement ‘Leaders’” wander the shelled, empty halls of Tara, speaking to empty rooms, and wondering why things seem a little bit off-kilter.

    Silently, Scarlett sees a damn BOX of Red Pills, and says, “Time to double up on the dosage.”

    So should we.

    The America everyone wants to save – the Conservatards and the Patriotards, those worshipers of the dead hand of the Constitution, the land where English is on the verge of becoming a second language – is, almost like the beloved South of Scarlett O’Hara, “Gone With The Wind,” and it is up to us to build a better society.

    Family, and the Fourteen Words, seem an excellent place to start.

    Sending some money to VOR would be an excellent idea, as well.

  142. Crack_Smoke_Republican on March 17th, 2009 11:14 pm

    Gold for Bread in Rhodesia:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ubJp6rmUYM

  143. Hibernian on March 19th, 2009 6:46 am

    Something I have just started doing is visiting the comments section of online newspapers and referencing VOR in the comment I leave about articles of interest to us.

    You have to register for many (not all) of them, but it just takes a few moments, and a lot of eyes read those comments.

    So if you find yourself with a few spare moments, try and promote VOR on comment sections or blogs. Keep it civil :)

  144. Igor Alexander on March 23rd, 2009 2:15 pm

    Are the administrators/founders of VOR aware that there’s a Catholic AM station out in Florida called “Voice of Reason Radio”?

    http://www.am1280thevoice.com/

  145. Peter Schaenk on March 23rd, 2009 4:35 pm

    No we are not. There is also a left wing website with the same name.

  146. maurice on March 23rd, 2009 9:23 pm

    Dear VOR,

    please have Timothy Johnson from ex- catholicvoice.co.uk as a guest. He can talk about his expulsion from internet and also explain the book “Plot Against The Church”.

    timothy@tpjohnson.plus.com

    webmaster@catholicvoice.co.uk

    Thanks,

    Maurice.

  147. Reck on March 24th, 2009 2:05 am

    Q. What do you call an open can of tuna in a lesbians apartment? A. Potpourri

    Q. What do you do when your dishwasher stops working?
    A. Yell at her.

    Q. What do women and police cars have in common?
    A. They both make a lot of noise to let you know they are coming.

    Q. Why did the woman cross the road?
    A. Never mind that, what the fuck is she doing out of the kitchen?

    Q. What is the difference between a hockey game and a High School reunion?
    A. At a hockey game you see fast pucks.

    Q: What did the potato chip say to the battery?
    A: If you’re Eveready, I’m Frito Lay.

    Q. What’s the difference between tampons and cowboy hats?
    A. Cowboy hats are for ass holes.

    Q. Who’s the world’s greatest athlete?
    A. The guy who finishes first and third in a masturbation contest.

    Q. How do you know when your cat’s done cleaning himself?
    A. He’s smoking a cigarette.

    Q. What do you call kids born in whorehouses?
    A. Brothel sprouts.

    What did the sign on the door of the whorehouse say?
    Beat it – we’re closed.

    What did the Indian say when the white man tied his penis in a knot?
    “How come?”

    Which came first, The chicken or the egg ?
    Neither. The rooster came first.

    Why is pubic hair always curly ?
    Otherwise it’ll poke your eyes.

    What do Kodak film have in common with condoms ?
    Both capture the moment.

    What’s the best thing about a blow job ?
    Ten minutes of silence

    How can you tell if your wife is dead ?
    The sex is the same, but the dishes pile up

    What do you call a woman who is paralysed from the waist down ? Married

    What are the three words women hate to hear during sex ? “Honey, I’m home!”

    What’s the definition of eternity?
    The time between when you cum and she leaves

  148. Reck on March 24th, 2009 2:16 am

    I bought a bird feeder. I hung It on my back porch and filled It with seed. What a beauty of A bird feeder it is, as I filled it Lovingly with seed.. Within a Week we had hundreds of birds Taking advantage of the Continuous flow of free and Easily accessible food. But then the birds started Building nests in the boards Of the patio, above the table, And next to the barbecue. Then came the poop. It was Everywhere: on the patio tile, The chairs, the table …… Everywhere! Then some of the birds Turned mean. They would Dive bomb me and try to Peck me even though I had Fed them out of my own Pocket. And others birds were Boisterous and loud… They Sat on the feeder and Squawked and screamed at All hours of the day and night And demanded that I fill it When it got low on food. After a while, I couldn’t even Sit on my own back porch Anymore. So I took down the Bird feeder and in three days The birds were gone. I cleaned Up their mess and took down The many nests they had built All over the patio. Soon, the back yard was like It used to be…… Quiet, serene And no one demanding their Rights to a free meal. Now let’s see. Our government gives out Free food, subsidized housing, Free medical care, and free Education and allows anyone Born here to be an automatic Citizen. Then the illegal came by the Tens of thousands. Suddenly Our taxes went up to pay for Free services; small apartments are housing 5 families; you Have to wait 6 hours to be seen By an emergency room doctor; Your child’s 2nd grade class is Behind other schools because Over half the class doesn’t speak English.. Corn Flakes now come in a Bilingual box; I have to ‘press one’ to hear my bank Talk to me in English, and People waving flags other Than ‘Old Glory’ are Squawking and screaming In the streets, demanding More rights and free liberties. Just my opinion, but maybe it’s time for the government To take down the bird Feeder. If you agree, pass it on; if not, Continue cleaning up the poop!

  149. Reck on March 24th, 2009 2:16 am

    Jose and Carlos are beggars. They beg in different areas of town. Carlos begs for the same amount of time as Jose, and collects only eight or nine dollars every day. However, Jose brings home a suitcase of ten-dollar bills every day. He drives a Mercedes, lives in a mortgage-free house, and has a lot of money to spend. ‘Hey, amigo,’ Carlos says to Jose, ‘I work just as long and hard as you do, so how come you bring home a suitcase full of ten-dollar bills everyday?’ Jose says, ‘Look at your sign, what does it say’? Carlos’ sign reads: ‘I have no work, a wife and 6 kids to support.’ ‘What’s wrong with that?’ Carlos asks him. Jose says, ‘No wonder you only get eight or nine dollars!’ Carlos says, ‘All right, so what does your sign say?’ Jose shows Carlos his sign. It reads: ‘I only need another ten dollars to move back to Mexico .’

  150. New America on March 25th, 2009 5:00 pm

    Part 1 of 2
    SUMMARY: Go to 160 for the opening, go to 182 for the full-power “Fight Club” version. We LET this happen to us. There is no better Cause than your Family, your RACE, and Western Civilization. It’s up to YOU, just Start Where You Are: “Feet in the Street, or Cash on the Barelhead.”

    14 Dietrich – Morality and Jews
    Jews very organized – Jews trying to destroy White culture across the planet – new article Pat Buchanan Charles Freeman –

    18 Mishko – The Jews in Israel.
    What the Jews do in Israel is the exact opposite of what they do to us -

    20 Dietrich – They know the state of Israel is not sustainable.
    Not economic, military – teeming masses of rapidly procreating Muslims – they have designs on a greater Israel – they do NOT want peace – discussion of morality – “it’s incumbent upon us to resist by any means necessary” –

    32 Dietrich re: Jewish occupation in Palestine.
    This is what Jews do when they get the chance; you can tell the mettle of people when they have absolute power – you can see their essence

    32 Mishko – ZOG – peel back the layers of this government and put up the Star of David.
    We are the slaves to Israel, and nobody wants to have that discussion. When they do they get chastised, and that time is coming to an end.

    34 Mishko – None of what you see on television benefits us as a Race.
    In any way, shape or form. Take the definition of an American. If someone just came off the boat, can they be a Frenchman? No, of course not. An Englishman? No, of course not. An American? Think, be you can’t argue on this basis without being attacked on all levels, and having people with television cameras come to your office and asking your boss, your coworkers, if they know who they are working with.

    36 Mishko – Note no boxers on tv/cable sports shows in last year and a half.
    Reason – White boxers on top – example role model

    47 Dietrich – ADL opposed to recognizing Armenian genocide.
    Would be sharing of space as victims of unique evil – look at Holocaust studies of Armenian genocide, and you will find Jews who were behind the “Young Turks” – Jews fear an investigation of this – opinion piece by Judea Pearl –

    54 Dietrich – Jews have denied nations the right to nationhood.
    We never get that, because we are “a nation of immigrants” – if some Nigerian got off the boat in France, Scotland, they could claim to be Frenchmen – but it would not be true – example of George Soros “Open Society” initiatives – you can’t say “Jews import blacks into Europe.” – exporting Africans to lily-white nations in Europe – “don’t the Jews have the right to exist as a people?” not if we don’t – anti-Semitism rejects Jews as equal members of the human race – anti-Zionism rejects Israel as an equal member of nations – shared history, not religion uniting force of Israel – majority are secular – no thought of religion, after-life – comments in L.A. Times – Jew is NOT a religion –

    60 Mishko – levels of hypocrisy is outstanding, as usual.
    Different color license plates in Israel for non-Jews

    61 Dietrich – Eisenhower used 82nd Airborne, Jews behind racial integration.
    Racial strife leads to easier areas to govern –

    64 Mishko – Israel flying a sonic boom over Palestine at 3 A.M.
    Every few hours at night – Dietrich: miscarriages have increased dramatically – done hundreds of feet over the ground – breaking glass – panic, PTSD children – Mishko – the epitome of the Jewish mentality – if you deal with a Jew in a face-to-face business issue, you’re going to lose –

    68 Dietrich- How much do we know about that which doesn’t slip through the cracks?
    Key: all the Hell the Palestinians of the West bank and the Gaza Strip have been put under, and they are RESISTING – how about us? Why aren’t we? Spirit of resistance?

    83 – Congresswoman Corrine Brown – video from C-SPAN

    87 Dietrich – “It’s time to look at what she got right, and not what she got wrong.”
    She has a college degree. Mishko – she does not use plurals – ask for money to have her make a bumper for VOR

    94 Dietrich – “It’s like three minutes of African, and then suddenly,…
    … America comes back with “the gentlelady yields…” The Empress can not conjugate.

    98 Dietrich – This is indicative of worse to come.
    A democracy – they’ve only gotten a lot stupider since she came up.

    99 Dietrich – The System is working AS DESIGNED!
    The government is a death trap to ordinary White people – it’s illegitimate in every sense of the word – if the world is insane, you must reinsert sanity into the system – it will actively resist and destroy you if you can – the Jews, like any parasite using the natural controls of an organism against itself – the media, for example – media is enshrined in the Constitution, and it’s insane – your sense organs are lying to you – told “we need change,” country is worse and worse – more bailouts, more money for Jews – think they’re going to wake up and tell us the truth? – they’re not going to do that – fear righteous market correction – it’s US who have to get wise to that – the System is not going to get any better – we need to organize, fund, get our hands dirty and ix it -

    107 Mishko – The key is understanding what you hear.
    Audio from Nancy Pelosi, unAmerican to do raids on illegal immigrants –

    110 Dietrich – This place is insane.

    110 Mishko – Violence in Mexico is claimed as our fault.

    111 Dietrich – Study by Germany’s Interior Ministry
    Shows twice as many young men join Kamradschaft (sp?) – twice as many as join legitimate organizations – 6000 Skinheads in Dresden tied to anti-immigrant party used firebombing commemoration – there are two arms to this thing – they want to racially get rid of us, and they want to politically dominate – TWO TO ONE! – like twice as many kids in a VOR political group than in Democrats and Republicans – they’re scared, we’re going to win – they can’t survive the Internet, can’t survive truth coming out about them -

    114 Mishko – One of two things happens to White/Western Civilization.
    In next 20 to 50 years – (1) disappears, and goes quietly into the night, or (2) – share this, and stand up for yourself – if you see something wrong, do what’s RIGHT! -

    115 Dietrich – Don’t do anything that would get you into trouble!

    116 Mishko – It’s a ground level thing.
    Start at your house -what you do what you buy – then you go from there – talk to people casually – example of flyer of Nationalist Coalition in Arizona – THAT is how you talk to people because they uncritically accept Jewish spin – suck it up as if from God’s own words – must be able to relate Reality to people – most people don’t KNOW – they take what they see on the televitz and they accept it as Reality, the Word of God – do research – fabricated, words twisted, leads to one road – Jews doing anything white people do as evil wrong, and a lie –

    119 Dietrich – Google “Israel” and “sonic booms.”
    Timed to destroy the kids – destroy daily life, quality of life.

    120 Mishko – White women want strong men.
    Song “Packed and Ready To Go.” Women love to have solid masculine authority, strong man takes care of them –

    126 Dietrich – VOR “too real, too true to fail”
    Reuters – rabbis told Israel Army they were fighting a Holy War against “GENTILES” who are interfering with our conquest of the Holy Land” – VOR has been asked, “Why do you care about the Palestinians? They’re not white, they’re not us.” Because they are interested in YOU – they aren’t saying they are going after religious war against GENTILES- and THAT is YOU – so, when they talk about bombing the Hell out of Palestinians with no quarter, that’s all about you, too – there are not one time events – you are not special in this equation – “the feeling of an almost religious mission” IDF Rabbinate message “This operation is a religious war.” –

    138 Dietrich – The corollary – Michael Weinstein’s book.
    “One Man’s War Against An Evangelical Military Coup” – the Israeli position – “Blood and soil for me, nation of immigrants for thee” – in American, God help you if you show loyalty to your particular Christian denomination – ambiguous, watered-down, kosherized, means anything to anyone – the numbers of Jewish members in the military is marginal – look in your town – look for manger scene in your town – who fought it? – look up name – example of Sea-Tac airport two years ago – what is the PURPOSE here? – destroying the White majority in this country – what’s the unifying principle here? Anti-YOU! – period – it’s not about hating Whites, it’s about loving the minorities – look at how minorities are treated in Israel – if there was justice in this world, Israel would not exist –

    145 Mishko – The British National Party (BNP) is growing rapidly.
    Say the truth, stick up for yourself, you get attacked – a hammer in the head by Muslims in the case of BNP – we try to take care of ourselves, we get a hammer in the head – La Raza, ACORN, get funded – this Administration will create inflation like no one has ever seen – food prices rising rapidly – why? – devaluation of the dollar – we stick together, we catch Hell – the example of the BNP speaker getting hit in the summer by Muslims is to be seen here, just as matter of time – this is frustrating, because people say it is not affecting them now –

    150 Dietrich US OMB – deficit 1.1 trillion.
    Stimulus package and saving financial system – the deficit is 11.9% of GDP – highest since WWII – it’s not coming, it’s HERE – one third larger budget just for this year? It’s here! –

    152 Mishko – Mind-boggling, “It’s just numbers.”

    153 Dietrich – “Live by the Teleprompter, die by the Teleprompter”
    Obama used one at a rodeo once – Obama with Irish Prime Minister – on Teleprompter, repeating everything Obama said – his speech not on it! – people clamoring for video, would be happy with his Obama’s real birth certificate –

    157 Mishko – Why are they such liars?
    Lock, stock and barrel – AIG bonuses, people complain, but it was written in the legislation – Senator Dodd received most financial donations from AIG – The System’s broke – it’s almost like a bad comedy – are they so corrupt that they just don’t care about their country, their futures? that their destroying people’s lives, their futures?

  151. New America on March 25th, 2009 5:01 pm

    Part 2 of 2
    160 Dietrich – Our lives and our futures are theirs for them to have.
    Just as we learned the basics of morality in society in kindergarden, our stuff goes back to that moral basis. Your future isn’t your future, according to them, and they control your money, and the flow of your money. They have the ears of our leaders.

    They’ve been raised with this “religion really a hate conspiracy – allows them to live among others for thousands of years and not assimilate – STRESS THAT – “Where did YOU come from?” YOUR children don’t know about the nations your ancestors came from; in 100 years, four generations, no memory whatsoever. Your great-grandchildren would grow up 100% American, knowing vaguely where his parents came from, what could care about his distant relatives over there, contrast with Jews, no state of their own for 2000 years, always lived among other people.

    They held onto the Jew thing because it WORKED for them – what that means? Those who didn’t have it married outside of it, but those who still called themselves Jews today of generations of inbreeding back into the Jewish community; seeking out other people, always looking for others Jews to marry back into – this is the most hateful, racist religion. It is no stretch to imagine they created RACISM; no racism among whites for all, creation of Jews. Fooled by refined hate they’ve crafted so carefully over the centuries. The Jew’s problem – enough of us are not fooled by it. Look at how people blame liberals, conservatives, Republicans – ALL of them are reading off the same sheet of kosher, non-Western, anti-YOU music.

    Constitution – either the government represents the people or its illegitimate and needs to be disposed of. People doing stuff for our RACE. We need people who are in gear, how something left over after working all day. If you can’t help, you can help people who are doing something. Help us help your future, your children, your Posterity, your RACE. You can send money to VOR, any amount – 10 bucks a week?

    British film director Ken Loach – not surprised at the rise in anti-Semitism is perfectly understandable following Israeli operation in Gaza. Charge of anti-Semitism is a red herring to keep you focused away from the truth.

    171 Dietrich – Solutions Start with YOU.
    Don’t go into debt. Harden yourself up. Get rid of the tv. Lift weights, swim, do physical activity INSTEAD of watching tv. Look at the Palestinians. They do a good job with low mental powers, small weapons. We have larger brains, many weapons. We want to grow – studios, video, cameras – everyone MUST take part in the Struggle, one way or another – we speak of revolution and resistance, trying to kick you into action.

    174 Mishko – Just act like a White person.
    Talking to people, can’t solve this by ourselves.

    175 Dietrich – Cancelling cable would be a great donation to the Cause.
    Get rid of the tv – maybe you’ll think the White Cause will deserve it – the worst thing that can happen – your cable company will call you offering you increasingly good deals to come back – save a lot of money – desperate to get you cable television – What they fear is “one that can SEE,” phrase from movie “They Live.”

    177 Mishko – Think Nationalistically.
    Think of fall of Communism in former Yugoslavia, you see incredible pride. Think of your RACE – Be PROUD of your RACE. This was OUR Land! Google La Raza, see what they say, “The Race,” see what they claim.

    What we are in is NOT a dress rehearsal. If it comes down to it and we are gone, we are gone FOREVER. You can’t bring back the Creative RACE. When we’re gone, the planet goes to a Dark Ages, This is a new version of the Dark Ages. Look at your own local news; crime going up. The people who are promoting it – the whigger attitude – is a result of what’s being shoved down our throat- Jews promoting their agenda. I don’t know what its going to take, but I know what the steps are. Look in your own house, start there – do I want to live in a White neighborhood? Do I donate money to VOR or do I buy Kosher products? Start where you are, and go from there. We are to the tipping point, and we can’t go back.

    182 Dietrich – It all looks to economics.
    The numbers are charged with politics – the number showing the way the economy and social fabric is going – America’s heyday – gone – don’t bet at it – look at your skin, and see what team you are really on – the team that’s going to keep it together is the team that creates Civilization – the SEEDS of Civilization lie in us ordinary White people – the destruction of this false Reality can only be good things, and a bright future – the absolute moral outrage of what is before s overwhelming to someone who is not in the right frame of mind –

    They are panicking – they do not have it under control – if they did, they would not have to reveal themselves through hate laws, Black president, wars – they have failed, and all we are waiting for is the time for things to percolate up to the top – hundreds of years from now, the year of the peak of Jewish power has already occurred – we are talking back our Destiny, our Birthright – all of our forefather fought and died for this country, this people this is the nature of a birthright, which we as a RACE earned – not earned by us personally – our Forefathers used the phrase Posterity, we use the synonym White People – all of these have worked down to the blue collar mechanics, who is a good person.

    They have made this country OUR Birthright – it’s OURS! – it’s not Aztlan – Northern Mexico is completely uninhabited – go a few miles to the border, and they call want to move to America – don’t want to march in Northern Mexico – they’re noting in Mexico except for Mexico, and they don’t want that – they want what WE Created, they want our birthright, they want our children’s birthright – it’s not our children’s birthright unless we fight for it to maintain – so , are we gong to let our children do it, or do we do it now, when we have THEM surrounded now.

    Two-thirds of this country is pissed off white people who don’t know WHY they are pissed off – the one things the Jews have right is this: When aroused to anger, the White Man is the most dangerous man in the room – time after time, history has shown this – it’s the big white brain that makes you dangerous and the willingness to clear out living space for your children as your forefathers did – our parents and grandparents get a pass because they didn’t understand the stakes – the time is coming to be responsible for the reality of their surroundings –

    We want you to get in with THE struggle of your time – it’s not Democrats vs Republicans, or any of that girly bs – this is a masculine, poetic, the winds of war blow yet again we need everything – fighters, leaders, writers, weapons, war songs – plans, communications – this is the foundational aspect of what we are doing here – it looks like it moving very slowly, but from a historical perspective things are moving quickly – historical perspective of decades and centuries- we are on the peak of the wave – front seat of history – this is the struggle, this is the time – we’ve caught them. red-handed- we need to charge the gates, and we need guys to come with us – it took a while for me to understand that – they murdered 3000 American on 911.

    With their horrible culture, our people are in a state of degradation – you wake up the next day, and dig in – it isn’t our place to live a comfortable life – we have to be revolutionary guerrillas in what should be our own country, it gives you a certain sense of hardness – they can defeat us ten times, as soon as we get that one through, we win – a tyranny acts like a tyranny – blood of Patriots and tyrants – Patriots first – we’re lucky history is going to be interesting again – once you accept that, we’re lucky, and I wouldn’t want it any other way – we can do this easily – 200 million white people plus in America – a mere 20% is 20 million White people against the damn Jews – they don’t have a chance – maybe the Jews will have a chance on Mars –

    198 Mishko – The Fourteen Words are nice, we only need three – IT STOPS NOW!
    This is our birthright.

    199 Dietrich – From the Founders to your Family.
    One and all were part of building this country or other countries that are White – It MUST stop NOW, we have no choice – I’m not going to be a part of the Collapse; one way or another, we move forward and take it back, or we, and our Posterity, perish from the face from the Earth – we know which way we’re going, and anyone who says you have to go down with the ship is a damn liar, and they want the country – we’re going to the Stars – this domination by an alien minority will be a sad footnote in the history of our Race – the REAL history will be colonizing the Stars – onward and upward –

    200 Mishko – We are coaching you to a better Civilization.

    201 Dietrich – Send your friends to VOR
    All emails answered!

  152. K-Sensor on March 26th, 2009 7:12 am

    Hopefully Susie didn’t quit over the Freemason defence?

  153. K-Sensor on March 26th, 2009 7:15 am

    VoR has a big opportunity in gaining members from Republic Broadcasting.

    RBN has broken it’s Advertising Model, in that they are locking up content for paid members, but the Advertising relies on the numbers that are attracted by free listeners. To me that is breaking their income model from advertising. In this there will be many people seeking out media that is the alternative to paying per month.

  154. maurice on March 26th, 2009 9:57 am

    “Hopefully Susie didn’t quit over the Freemason defence?”

    - this defence was really very strange (!!)

  155. K-Sensor on March 26th, 2009 11:53 am

    Maurice, I agree. I didn’t want to argue too much as I read between the lines that Susie associated the good in the Freemasons with an ex-partner or someone deceased. Other words saying the Freemasons are a Jewish frat, taints the memory of someone that contradicts the premise.

  156. Auntiesemite on March 26th, 2009 10:29 pm

    The freemasons are a peculiar group indee. Most members seem to join out of a desire to be “insiders” and to get the benefits of being such.. I.E. leniency in court decisions, employment advantages, etc…I have some experience in this area, as I work in an area that has many freemasons.. Although i am not a member, i see the special treatment that it brings to members.. The freemasons recruit those in law enforcement to create the needed “connections” to get the advantages and protections that they desire for themselves.. Now, Susie would not have been allowed admission to the order, because she is a woman. However she could have joined a splinter of the order specifically designed for women called the order of the eastern star. In my opinion this was created in order to keep the wives of freemasons in line so they wouldnt speak of what their husbands spoke about in confidentiality to them concerning the masonic order. I dont know this for a fact. Its just an assumption. But it does exist.
    Susies deceased husband was a member of the freemasons, and she obviously respects him and thinks highly of what he was, a mason. I dont claim to speak for her at all, but in her defense, she may, in presumed ignorance, defend the order that her husband was a member of..
    Having said that, I know many freemasons who are good men. I dont think that they know what the order is really about.. They are the bottom row of the pyramid.. And the buffer, or the “beard” for the higher secretive degrees..as are the shriners, who are masons.. And we all know what great things the shriners do for disadvantaged children, so who would criticize them?.. Another “beard”..
    We all hold different pieces of the puzzle. And together we can separate the wheat from the chaff. I hope that VOR, and Susie can reconcile whatever problems that they may have..VOR is the next generation in talk radio..
    Dont shoot yourselves in the foot guys..

  157. Susie on March 27th, 2009 1:53 am

    Auntie,
    It is a royal mess, yes?
    Susie

  158. Reck on March 27th, 2009 1:28 pm

    A Little boy wanted $100.00 very badly and prayed for weeks, but nothing happened . Then he decided to write God a letter requesting the $100.00. When the postal authorities received the letter to God , USA , they decided to send it to the President. The president was so amused that he instructed his secretary to send the little boy a $ 5.00 bill. The president thought this would appear to be a lot of money to a little boy. The little boy was delighted with the $5.00 bill and sat down to write a thank-you note to God, which read: Dear God: Thank you very much for sending the money. However, I noticed that for some reason you sent it through Washington D.C. and those assholes took $95.00 in taxes

  159. K-Sensor on March 27th, 2009 8:34 pm

    Funny Reck. Thanks Susie for you show.

    I was hoping in future you were going to talk more about the police. Like you’d be the specialist for police exposes. Looks like we’ll miss out.

  160. DJ on March 28th, 2009 12:19 pm

    In reference to the interview with Kevin MacDonald back in Nov 2008, I downloaded the file, however, only received 53 minutes of the interview. I tried to listen to the file on the VOR website but it kept buffering within 3:43 minutes of the interview.

    Has anyone downloaded the entire interview file to another website? If so, please send me the URL.

    Thanks.

  161. K-Sensor on March 29th, 2009 7:36 pm

    http://prothink.org/ has a new promo on a upcoming moive he’s making. “Jesus Was Not A Jew”

    VoR should link the the video promo.

  162. K-Sensor on March 29th, 2009 7:46 pm
  163. maurice on March 30th, 2009 4:51 am
  164. Igor Alexander on March 30th, 2009 7:45 am

    “Brazil’s President Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva on Thursday blamed the global economic crisis on “white people with blue eyes” and said it was wrong that black and indigenous people should pay for white people’s mistakes.”

    “Speaking in Brasília at a joint press conference with Gordon Brown, the UK prime minister, Mr Lula da Silva told reporters: ‘This crisis was caused by the irrational behaviour of white people with blue eyes, who before the crisis appeared to know everything and now demonstrate that they know nothing.’”

    Let’s see how well Brazil does if all its whites pack up and leave.

  165. New America on March 31st, 2009 12:06 am

    ADMIN:

    Could you please delete ReckLess: Abandon’s “jokes” from this thread?

    Thanks!

  166. Hibernian on April 1st, 2009 5:17 am

    Mishko, have you seen the Craig Bodecker film?

    If not, I’ll forward a DVD copy with my April donation.

  167. Hibernian on April 1st, 2009 6:00 am

    Also…Are there any plans to create a downloadable VOR flyer that activist can make copies of for distribution?

    I live within “striking distance” of Ohio State, and would love to hit campus with some truth this spring.

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