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34 Responses to “Mishko and Dietrich, 2/20/2009”

  1. Hibernian on February 21st, 2009 9:56 am

    “Blacks need Whites….Whites don’t need Blacks.”

    That’s simple but quite profound dude. It is indeed a great opening line in any open discussion of race.

  2. Hibernian on February 21st, 2009 10:59 am

    lol@ “The great fence of China”

  3. Moranen/Tobulkin on February 21st, 2009 4:21 pm

    Dietrich: what is the media player required for the William Pierce archive?

  4. Mishko Novosel on February 21st, 2009 4:40 pm

    Moranen, for one reason or another, the Pierce archives are archived for historical reference, and at this point are not provided by VOR. We’ve got them, and at some point we’ll modify the website to allow accessibility. Once the new shows are setup and running,and we feel the time is appropriate, we’ll providing them. The goal of VOR is to wake up the sleeping giants AKA white people, and we believe Dr. Pierce might be too much for the masses at this point.

    I hope you understand where we’re coming from.

    Mishko

  5. Ba Racknophobe on February 21st, 2009 6:05 pm

    Mishko, why not a program about Croatia? And particularly about the artist Thompson, if you know anything about him.

  6. Mishko Novosel on February 21st, 2009 6:40 pm

    Ba Racknophobe it’s funny you mention that. Over the past several weeks I’ve been working on how to open up the 800 number and do it in the correct manner so we can go international. Yes, I’m aware of Thompson and how Nationalism has grown within Croatia, and I would definitely be willing to do that, but I first have to focus on the new shows.

    We would love to have shows in German, Swedish, Russian, and I’ll bet within 9 months one of the three will happen.

    But you have to understand that we only have so much human bandwidth. One thing at a time brother, one thing at a time.

    Best regards and thank you for the idea.

    Mark

  7. Reck~Less, Abandon on February 21st, 2009 9:00 pm

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  8. Revanche on February 21st, 2009 11:37 pm

    A good book on the White Boy!

    http://www.amazon.com/Frontiersmen-Narrative-Allan-W-Eckert/review/product/0945084919/ref=cm_cr_dp_all_helpful?ie=UTF8&coliid=&showViewpoints=1&colid=&sortBy=bySubmissionDateDescending

    Eckert has written a truly engrossing book on an amazing figure in American history. Simon Kenton, like Daniel Boone had the lust to wonder the woods for days and both had a immense memory for the scope of the land he wondered. The narrative writing is excellent. It puts you back in the 18th century when America was truly wild. It was a harsh land when one false step led to an early death, often times gruesome. The Shawnees were none to compliant to give up their lands and sold it at a high cost of human life. Tecumseh also emerges here, also one of the greatest figures in history. A Sorrow in Our Heart, which is about Tecumseh is also a must read. In the Frontiersman, the Ohio River flowed blood red with hatred for intruders. There are captivating stories here of the many clashes that took place between whites and indians. It was a time period of two cultures clashing, one wanting to hold on to a way of life etched into the land through balance and harmony, aganst a culture that produced men who were determined to see new vistas and experience the thrill of blazing a trail that many would soon follow. But it was this migration which ruined the very thing they loved most, the feeling of true wilderness. This book captures it all. A must read for those who find history a fascinating subject.

  9. Revanche on February 21st, 2009 11:43 pm

    You can almost feel the fire of fervor pulled back from across the eons on page 279 as the young frontiersman from which much of the story revolves around returns home at last after being considered dead for over a dozen years. Those years had been filled with more living than most people see in ten lifetimes. It certainly was not a “fear-based” lifestyle, that’s for certain. Danger,Death, broken promises, promises kept only to be thwarted by others, to the victor are the spoils. These brave, often dangerous men straddled the complex line between conscience (if they were one of the few that possessed a good one) and practicality, friendship and opposing duty. It would usually start out as the Great Escape from something, but would rapidly progress to something much more for most of them. The Promised Land, open for the taking, rich, fertile land wanting and waiting only for hard work, dedication, and new families to settle it. Few other thoughts than that were uppermost in the mind of the unknown territory seeker – the restless breed of men who could never be still or content within boundaries. Yet strangely enough in their enigmatic ways, they were the risk takers, those who were blazing the trail, the pathfinders that would bring “civilization” to the yet wild, but untaken, unsettled wilderness. The bringing anew of those same “boundaries” to everyone.

    On the other hand, some believed that the Great Land was already taken, had been taken for thousands of years and “boundaries” already established to defend among themselves – the tribes of natives. On page 228, the inquisitive mind of the emerging great Chief, Tecumseh is sketched with poignancy, depth of feeling and asks again the unanswered question that has plagued humanity throughout time: Why? Who establishes the traditions that can never be broken though they obviously are not suitable for the times or the people? Common sense, whether from native peoples or white settler, must stand aside when placed side by side with these traditions and beliefs, those established by others, some without sufficient logic long before present time, of never having been seen but strictly followed because it had always been done. There was never meant to be a sustainable answer to this indigenous malady of the mind of mankind, so it is not surprising that there was none then.

    The author has taken historical documents and structured the story carefully around them. What makes it especially interesting is that he does not focus on the more widely known frontiersman names, but rather brings out the lesser known individuals that made up an integral part of frontier history but somehow did not gain the same far reaching acclaim. The central character of the story seems to be Simon Kenton, the man who possessed a talent extraordinaire for survival and woods lore matching that of Davy Crockett; along with Blue Jacket, the white boy who sought out and voluntarily became a member of one of the Indian tribes. He has skillfully avoided adding opinions, thus favoring neither side of the white/Indian conflicts, merely presenting the facts as history itself remembered them.

    This historical narrative is truly a splendid accounting of the fledgling beginnings of “The Way West”, one that brings it all to the reader, vividly, objectively, and is truly deserving of it’s awards. Now and again, the same story we read parts of in our history books but failed to appreciate at the time can be retold with renewed vigor and interest, and this book is one of that kind.

  10. cillian on February 22nd, 2009 12:28 am

    “The developers, who include the creator of the hit TV series Power Rangers, have ambitious plans for the resort.”

    ——————————————————————————————
    Power Rangers: Created by Haim Saban, and Shuki Levy

    Haim Saban (Hebrew: חיים סבן, born 15 October 1944 in Alexandria, Egypt[1]) is a television and media proprietor. With an estimated current[update] net worth of 2.8 billion USD, he is ranked by Forbes as the 102nd richest person in America.[2]

    Shuki Levy (Hebrew: שוקי לוי‎; born June 3, 1947 in Tel Aviv, Palestine) is a music composer and television writer, director, and executive producer. Levy’s best known work is soundtrack compositions for children’s television programs of the 1980s, such as Inspector Gadget, The Mysterious Cities of Gold, M.A.S.K., Dinosaucers, Dragon Quest, He-Man and the Masters of the Universe, Eagle Riders (the third Western adaptation of Science Ninja Team Gatchaman), She-Ra, and Jayce and the Wheeled Warriors. In the 1990s, he became known chiefly for his work on the Power Rangers franchise, Masked Rider, VR Troopers and Big Bad Beetleborgs. He has also written and directed numerous episodes for some these television shows, and directed a few movies, such as “Eye of Doom” (1987), “Perfect Victims” (1988), and “Blind Vision” (1991).

  11. Obadiah 1:18 on February 22nd, 2009 1:05 am

    An interview request for the show: Hal Turner. Yeah, I know Dietrich hates his guts but he would be able to question Hal about all the outrageous claims Hal’s made, as well as other things Hal’s done to enrage (some) of the WN community. It would make for a fiery, enlightening, and daresay entertaining interview. There’s no law that says you have to like or agree with every guest that comes on the show.

  12. New America on February 22nd, 2009 2:07 am

    in reply to Obadiah 1:18:

    It seems that Mr. Turner has burned too many bridges, too many times. Perhaps those bridges are located near the ACME Automatic Earthquake Generator, used so unsuccessfully by Mr. Wile E. Coyote, against Mr. Road Runner.

    He is certainly useful for entertainment, but VOR is focusing on education – critically important education.

    I have often wondered why Hal can make statements that certainly would arouse concern, in certain quarters, if we made them.

    He’s just lucky, I guess.

    Good for entertainment, though.

    For that we have Compulsory Diversity News – much better, much funnier, much more entertaining and much more educational.

    Do you ever think that when Hal is delivering some of his more – mmm – “creative” statements, that we are looking at “performance art” where it just might be that we are being mocked?

    Do you think you are alone in that?

    Neither do I.

  13. European on February 22nd, 2009 8:05 am

    “An interview request for the show: Hal Turner.”

    It never stops to amaze me how stupid the “Movement” is. This obsession with freaks and lunatics, this obsession to be the lunatic fringe. Completely clueless.

  14. jimbo on February 22nd, 2009 8:13 am

    Hal Turner’s @ least got some “runs on the board”….he attended both Knoxville rallies for the Christopher/Newsome rape/murders & has publicly gone head-to-head with some very nasty ZOG-bots indeed on TV and radio!….can others say the same, despite all their fancy “talk”?

    “European”…..never stops to amaze me how stupid the “Movement” is. This obsession with freaks and lunatics, this obsession to be the lunatic fringe. Completely clueless

    for every so-called “freak & lunatic” in the “movement”…..(BTW: wtf are YOU to label ANY-one in the ‘movement’ as such?!?)….they’re 50-to-1 out-numbered by the ZOG-bot “freaks & lunatics”……REAL freak, maggot psychopaths!

  15. RR on February 22nd, 2009 9:43 am

    For the record, George Washington Carver did not invent peanutbutter, (or more accurately discover the recipe) the Incas “invented” peanutbutter. It is afterall a pretty simple recipe…

    step #1: roast peanuts
    step #2: crush peanuts

    Marcellus Gilmore Edson invented the modern process of milling and roasting in one step in 1884.

    Carver’s most widely known product was a mixture of creosote and peanuts sold by The Carver Penol Company as a patent medicine for respiratory diseases such as tuberculosis.

    It is now known that creosote causes cancer and peanuts have no effect on Mycobacterium tuberculosis, the bacteria responsible for TB. Peanuts cause an allergic reaction in many patients that can lead to asphyxia. No one was ever helped by this quack medicine and many people lost heir lives to it.

  16. Dietrich on February 22nd, 2009 9:54 am

    Revanche:

    It was a time period of two cultures clashing, one wanting to hold on to a way of life etched into the land through balance and harmony. . .

    With all due respect, I don’t buy the much romanticized noble savage bit with the American Indians. They didn’t live in harmony and balance with nature for any other reason than that they were limited by their lack of technology. Where they did have the means, they screwed the environment just as bad–sometimes worse–than Europeans.

    See: The Noble Red Man by Mark Twain

  17. Gibson on February 22nd, 2009 10:41 am

    I am compelled by duty to my race, and duty to the truth, to express my disappointment that you’re giving Mark Weber a show. The good thing about him is that he does stand up for freedom of speech, but his holohoax line is getting very close to what the jews are pushing, both in the facts about what happened, and in the way it is used to manipulate our society.

    I’d rather hear from Ernst Zündel, Germar Rudolf, Sylvia Stolz, Tom Sunic (good to hear he’s getting a show), Bradley Smith, Fredrick Toben, Terry Tremaine, Bishop Williamson, or even David Cole or Norman Finkelstein. All of them would, I think, be much closer to the truth than Mark Weber.

  18. Howdy Doody on February 22nd, 2009 12:15 pm

    Gibson your 100% correct. The pressure must immense to this.

    The guise of free discourse does not hold for a pro White Arena.

    Thank you

  19. Howdy Doody on February 22nd, 2009 12:21 pm

    North America was a Caldron of Violent warring tribes. many brutally Cannibalistic, that is a FACT. Read about the orginal Ohio savages.

    See “George Catlin’s ” Letters And Notes On North America Indians”

  20. Hibernian on February 22nd, 2009 12:42 pm

    Interview Hal Turner?

    Why, again?

  21. New America on February 22nd, 2009 3:55 pm

    two more in the spam filter.

    thanks!

  22. K-Sensor on February 22nd, 2009 5:04 pm

    Good show guys.

    On the direction of the site, you need a means to keep users at the site between shows. The commenting is good, but you need to maybe start accepting advertising so that you can take on more committed projects.

    Look what Alex Jones has done. Imagine if you had his new setup for racial-protection-message.

  23. New America on February 22nd, 2009 6:24 pm

    attn Admin:

    two more caught in the spam filter.

    thanks!

    in reply to k-sensor:

    you wrote:
    Good show guys.

    On the direction of the site, you need a means to keep users at the site between shows. The commenting is good, but you need to maybe start accepting advertising so that you can take on more committed projects.

    Look what Alex Jones has done. Imagine if you had his new setup for racial-protection-message.

    in reply:
    I often wonder why people come here and praise the efforts of those who stand as little more than false flags, even on a technical level.

    Try this, k-sensor, and read it s-l-o-w-l-y.

    Why do you suppose these organizations are so well funded?

    Why do you suppose people like Jones can get up there and entertain the drones for hours with long lectures about, say, 911 – lectures which ask and every question about the murders of 911 except who pulled the trigger – and why.

    Tens of thousands of false trails are made for people to run down and chase their tails all day, and absolutely nothing gets done for our Race.

    Tell you what, k-sensor.

    You think Jones, and all of the Patriotard broadcasters are so damn great?

    Fine.

    Go over there.

  24. Obadiah 1:18 on February 22nd, 2009 11:13 pm

    European excreted:

    ““An interview request for the show: Hal Turner.”

    It never stops to amaze me how stupid the “Movement” is. This obsession with freaks and lunatics, this obsession to be the lunatic fringe. Completely clueless.”

    That reads like a Jew dearly wishing that the Movement would just go away. Well, it’s not. So get over it — all the freaks and lunatics in it too. Give me a crazy White man over a “sane” Jew any day!

  25. K-Sensor on February 23rd, 2009 5:29 am

    I was saying that Alex Jones has a great setup. Is there anything wrong with saying that!

    He seems to be funding his project with producing documentaries that people buy and also distribute out. Hardly any soap or berky water ads on anymore.

    What i’m saying is for VoR to move ahead it needs a sales and advertising model so as to fund projects and increase listeners at the same time.

  26. K-Sensor on February 23rd, 2009 7:23 am

    It would be good if someone could interview Robert Menard.

  27. Susie on February 23rd, 2009 10:40 am

    TO EVERYONE:
    I began my calls today to the House Judiciary members concerning voting against HR 256 and 262. This is the reaction of John Conyers’ office, Democrat and CHAIRMAN:

    The first name on my list is John Conyers, Michigan. I spoke with a woman who answered the phone who basically laughed at me NOT because she has received any other calls telling Conyers not to vote for HR256 and 262, but because Conyers sponsored the bill. She also laughed about the Hate Crime bills ruining Germany and Canada and when I asked her to deliver the message, she hung up on me.

    Howard L. Berman’s answering guy was equally abrupt but so far, the rest of the Dems are taking the message without laughing.

    GET ON THE HORN AND JOIN IN THE FUN!!! CALL THESE MEMBERS……..
    Susie

  28. Moranen/Tobulkin on February 23rd, 2009 11:59 am

    Allright, thank you Mishko for clarification. I just dont agree with your thinking and actions on this.

    I dont see any reason to put Pierce’s about 300 speeches with Dietrich’s introduction on VOR for everyone (in an excellent format that is easy and quick to use) and then all of a sudden taking them off the site. Just put them back on, they’re not too much for people, on the contrary they provide deeper understanding and a strong spirit of action and resistance, and the moral cause (“Our Cause” [1976]).

    Please put them back. It’s much easier and faster to listen them from VOR archive playlist, than to download them all from natvan (the site that might seem too politically motivated propaganda on its’ outset). Please!

  29. Drew on February 25th, 2009 11:05 am

    I find it interesting that my previously-submitted comment concerning Mark Weber being invited to have his own show on VOR has been relegated to the ‘Off Topic’ bin, despite the fact that Mishko and Dietrich mentioned it TWICE on their 2/20/09 broadcast, and Weber was interviewed twice on VOR. “Gibson” also made similar comments directly in response to the same topic.

    It is also interesting to note that many of the comments that VOR considers ‘on topic’ have nothing directly to do with the 2/20 show in particular. Perhaps I should have pointed out the audio quality to keep in ‘on topic’?

    Near the end of the 2/20 show, Dietrich makes a dismissive comment about listeners who have objected to Mark Weber’s presence on VOR, comparing them to those who object to Susie from the Patriot Dames being a woman or to himself for issues he’s brought up. His analogy is not relevant to the issue of Mark Weber.

    My objections to VOR allowing Mark Weber to become part of its organization has nothing to do with his political views or whether or not he is a bonafide ‘white nationalist’. Even the fact that he has repeatedly called Revisionism ‘irrelevant’, as has Peter Schaenk, is secondary to the primary issue that I brought up, which is Mark Weber’s collaboration with the opposition and his involvement with financial improprieties regarding the estate of a wealthy heiress to the Edison fortune.

    The baggage that Mark Weber brings with him cannot be compared to anyone else on your network. For example, I know of the past conflict between Mike Delaney from Prothink and Edgar J. Steele, both of whom you’ve invited to your network. The disagreement between them is peanuts compared to what Mark Weber has been involved in, which is public record and can be found in court documents and eye witness testimony.

    Dietrich constantly talks about the importance of personal responsibility and morality, and yet when it comes to Mark Weber, despite overwhelming evidence, Dietrich is willing to overlook it. How would Dietrich feel if Mark Weber had given false witness to the police to secure a bogus search warrant of his house which resulted in his wife being handcuffed by the police? Would this be just a difference in political views that Dietrich would overlook and still sit down with Mark Weber over a drink and laugh about it? No, he’d sue the police, as Willis Carto did, and make sure that he warned everyone he could about how corrupt Mark Weber is.

    I’m sure that Mark Weber has all kinds of slick explanations to refute the allegations that have been brought against him, but keep in mind that perhaps the only reason why he hasn’t been sued in court by those he’s wronged is that he seems to have conveniently contributed to the financial ruin of those who would like to do so.

    Mishko mentioned on the 2/20 broadcast that he wanted to address the controversies surrounding Mark Weber. Well, I’d love to hear what he has to say. However, for the sake of intellectual honesty, I can only hope that Mishko addresses the specific charges against Mark Weber and provides specific facts to refute them, instead of glossing over them with generalities and rhetorical posturing, such as ‘Well, none of us are perfect…’ or ‘Nobody agrees on everything…’ If you consider that type of argument valid, then you are giving a green light to anyone who disagrees with what you are trying to expose on VOR.

  30. Peter Schaenk on February 25th, 2009 1:47 pm

    Drew,

    I think you missed the point of my post regarding this topic.

    I will try again, as I am a patient man for the most part.

    What transpired between Weber and Carto is ancient history. VoR takes no side whatsoever in this controversy. It was decided a long time ago and Weber got the money for IHR that a deceased woman left him. Carto believed he had rights to it, but it was decided in Weber’s favor.

    End of story.

    Weber’s views are intelligent, and well thought out. He is a good speaker, and will make a great host on VoR.

    Carto is a respected man in the “patriot” community, and was the creator of the Spotlight, American Free Press among other things.

    Well done Willis!

    The argument you have brought up serves no purpose other than to disrupt the message board. NO ONE on VoR has discussed the feud between Carto and Weber, so your post is indeed “OFF-TOPIC”.

    If you continue to rant about this, we will ban you from the site. This is the type of nonsense that destroys the most well intentioned message boards.

    I appreciate your comments, but they have nothing to do with Weber joining VoR. As I stated previously, it’s ancient history and was decided a long time ago.

  31. Reck~Less, Abandon on February 25th, 2009 3:34 pm

    K-Sensor:

    20 minutes of advertising in a one hour show is just one reason
    I don’t go there.

  32. admin on February 25th, 2009 5:11 pm

    Moranen/Tobulkin:

    There are reasons for things, and we’re not putting them up for the foreseeable future. It would be one thing if you couldn’t find them on other sites, and we were the only ones who had them, but that’s clearly not the case.

    For easiest access, I suggest downloading them to your HDD.

  33. admin on February 25th, 2009 5:17 pm

    Hi Drew,

    Give me an email address for you by emailing me (using the contact link at the top-right of every page). If you put it here, it might be picked up by spambots, and I don’t want you to get spammed.

    Agreed that the audio quality was horrible. I can’t figure it out, but I do know I’ll be using a different mic this week. I only wish someone would’ve told me, since in the call it seemed okay.

    Thanks for listening,

    -DM

  34. Crack_Smoke_Republican on March 1st, 2009 11:36 pm

    http://www.rense.com/general85/zzi.htm

    This is a good one:
    Zionist, Jewish Hollywood’s Brainwashing Of America Non-Stop Ruthless Propaganda To Make America Think ‘Jewish’
    From Gary
    3-1-9

    Jeff – I’ve been having discussions with an acquaintance in town who considers himself a history buff. He had been reading a book on early marine history that mentioned the East India Trading Company and their interaction with China – and that as a thread of conversation. For some reason one day, he mentioned that one of his favorite shows on television was ‘House’ (Fox.com). As I had mentioned the Zionist control of Hollywood and the media to him, I looked the show up on my computer and found a link to watch the latest episode.

    In the episode…’House’, a Jewish doctor, breaks up a relationship between a white, blond, female doctor and a black doctor on his team on the grounds that their relationship is a distraction to their work. They either have to end the relationship, or one of them will have to resign, or be fired.

    His ‘team’ is treating a young priest with mysterious symptoms. We find that the priest has been accused of impropriate touching of a young member of his church in his past and has been transferred around. He has turned to alcohol and cigarettes and is now running a church on skid row.

    While they are stumped on a cause of the young priests malady, a male Jewish doctor on House’s team jumps up and rushes out of the room as they are mulling over the symptoms.

    We find that the Jewish doctor has apparently solved the mystery in finding the aids virus in the holy water at the church. When the priest refuses to be tested for the aids virus they began treating him for aids anyway, which causes further complications.

    Eventually, all this gets sorted out in the end to the priest’s benefit, but the seeds have been planted.

    Another drama taking place during the sitcom, is the atheistic ‘House’ grappling with attending a celebratory party that has something to do with the circumcision of his out-of-wed child with the female Jewish administrator of the hospital. As the show ends, House is sitting at the piano in his home drinking scotch while playing a Jewish tune on the piano ­ having decided to ship the celebration.

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