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Written exchange between Moyers and Foxman…

February 28, 2009

Exchange Between Bill Moyers and Abraham Foxman of the Anti-Defamation League

Following Bill Moyers’ reflections on the events in Gaza on the JOURNAL last week, Anti-Defamation League National Director Abraham Foxman sent him this letter:

Mr. Moyers,

In less than a thousand words, you managed to fit into your January 9 commentary: (1) moral equivalency between Hamas, a radical Islamic terrorist group whose anti-Semitic charter cites the Protocols of the Elders of Zion, and Israel, the only democracy in the Middle East and perhaps America’s greatest ally in the world; (2) historical revisionism, asserting that Canaanites were Arabs; (3) anti-Semitism, declaring that Jews are “genetically coded” for violence; (4) ignorance of the terrorist threat against Israel, claiming that checkpoints, the security fence, and the Gaza operation are tactics of humiliation rather than counter-terrorism; and (5) promotion of an individual, the Norwegian doctor in Gaza, who has publicly expressed support for the September 11 attacks.

I have seen and read serious critiques of Israel’s military campaign in Gaza, and I have disagreed with many of them. Your commentary, however, is different, consisting mostly of intellectually and morally faulty claims that do a great disservice to the PBS audience. It invites not disagreement, but rebuke.

On one point you are correct – “America has officially chosen sides.” And rightly so. Fortunately for our nation, very few of our citizens engage in the same moral equivalency, racism, historical revisionism, and indifference to terrorism as you. If the reverse held, it would not be a country that any decent person would want to live in.

Sincerely,

Abraham H. Foxman
National Director
Anti-Defamation League

In response, Bill Moyers sent Mr. Foxman the following message:

Dear Mr. Foxman:

You made several errors in your letter to me of January 13 and I am writing to correct them.

First, to call someone a racist for lamenting the slaughter of civilians by the Israeli military offensive in Gaza is a slur unworthy of the tragedy unfolding there. Your resort to such a tactic is reprehensible.

Earlier this week it was widely reported that the International Red Cross “was so outraged it broke its usual silence over an attack in which the Israeli army herded a Palestinian family into a building and then shelled it, killing 30 people and leaving the surviving children clinging to the bodies of their dead mothers. The army prevented rescuers from reaching the survivors for four days.”

When American troops committed a similar atrocity in Vietnam, it was called My Lai and Lt. Calley went to prison for it. As the publisher of a large newspaper at the time, I instructed our editorial staff to cover the atrocity fully because Americans should know what our military was doing in our name and with our funding. To say “my country right or wrong” is like saying “my mother drunk or sober.” Patriots owe their country more than that, whether their government and their taxes are supporting atrocities in Vietnam, Iraq, or, in this case, Gaza.

Contrary to your claim, I made no reference whatsoever to “moral equivalency” between Hamas and Israel. That is an old canard often resorted to by propagandists trying to divert attention from facts on the ground, and, it, too, is unworthy of the slaughter in Gaza. Contrary to imputing “moral equivalency” between Hamas and Israel, I said that “Hamas would like to see every Jew in Israel dead.” I said that “a radical stream of Islam now seeks to eliminate Israel from the face of the earth.” And I described the new spate of anti-Semitism across the continent of Europe. I am curious as to why you ignored remarks which clearly counter the notion of “moral equivalency.”

And although I specifically referred to “the rockets from Hamas” falling on Israel and said that “every nation has the right to defend itself, and Israel is no exception,” you nonetheless accuse me of “ignorance of the terrorist threat against Israel.” Once again, you are quite selective in your reading of my essay.

Your claim that “the checkpoints, the security fence and the Gaza operation” [I used the more accurate “onslaught”] are not humiliating of the Palestinians is lamentable. I did not claim that these were, as you write, “tactics of humiliation rather [emphasis mine] than counter-terrorism,” but perhaps it is overly simplistic to think they are one and not the other, when they are both. Also lamentable is your description of my “promotion” of the Norwegian doctor in Gaza when in fact I was simply quoting what he told CBS News: “It’s like Dante’s Inferno. They are bombing one and a half million people in a cage.” The whole world has been able to see for itself what he was talking about, and as one major news organization after another has been reporting, is reeling from the sight.

And, to your claim that I was “declaring Jews are ‘genetically coded’ for violence,” you are mistaken. My comment – obviously not sufficiently precise – was not directed at a specific people but to the fact that the human race has violence in its DNA, as the biblical stories so strongly affirm. I also had in mind the relationship between all the descendents of Abraham who love the same biblical land and come to such grief over it.

From my days in President Johnson’s White House forward, I have defended Israel’s right to defend itself, and still do. But sometimes an honest critic is a government’s best friend, and I am appalled by Israel’s devastation of innocent civilians in this battle, all the more so because, as I said in my column, it is exactly what Hamas wanted to happen. To be so indifferent to that suffering is, sadly, to be as blind in Gaza as Samson.

Sincerely,

Bill Moyers

Mishko and Dietrich, 2/27/2009

February 27, 2009

This Week in Disorganized America:

  • False flag holocaust survivors
  • Jewish control of the media and their influence over public opinion that suits their interest
  • Hate Law legislation
  • Montana sticking it to the Fed
  • The illegal alien invasion and how it affects YOU
  • And much more!

Vatican: Bishop’s Apology On Holocaust Not Enough

February 27, 2009

FredrickToben, 2-27-09

February 27, 2009

Local TV station creates news item about Fredrick Toben’s views on the Holocaust-Shoah.
Remember, the Holocaust-Shoah believers have to prove their case. Revisionists cannot prove that which never happened.
Holocaust-Shoah believers have to prove: 1. That there was an order that started the state-ordered systematic extermination program; 2. that it was six million Jews who died; 3. The murder weapon was a homicidal gas chamber.
Any believer who refuses to provide proof of these matters is merely a defamer-libeller-slanderer, and most likely is either ignorant of the physical facts of the Holocaust-Shoah, or outright lying.
The real Holocaust was the saturation bombing of Dresden, Hamburg, Pfortzheim, etc.
The current Holocaust is the Palestinian Holocaust perpetrated by the Jewish State of Israel – yes, Jewish state and NOT ‘Zionist’ state.
The free and democratic world remained silent when the Jewish state sent its army into Palestine during December 2008 and January 2009.
Why?

Dostoevsky & The Jewish Bankers, Bro. Nathanael Kapner

February 27, 2009

Dostoevsky & The Jewish Bankers

 

DOSTOEVSKY & THE JEWISH BANKERS
By Brother Nathanael Kapner, Copyright 2009

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FEODOR DOSTOEVSKY LEFT US A “PROPHECY” of the threat to Christian civilization by emancipated Jewry.

In his book, Diary Of A Writer, published in 1877, Dostoevsky penned a journal entry, entitled, The Jewish Question. With alarming and frightening foresight, (by which he penetrated into today’s events), Dostoevsky predicted a growing domination over social and political affairs by the Jews with their newly acquired rights:

“The Jews look forward to world domination. This requires them to maintain their own close-knit identity. If the Jews are given equal legal rights in Russia, but are allowed to keep their ‘State within a State,’ they would be more privileged than the Russians. The consequences of this situation are already clear in Europe.” View Entire Article Here.

Expressing his concern regarding Jewry’s agenda for world domination, Dostoevsky demonstrated how Jewish bankers had taken over Europe by the mid 1800’s:

“It is not for nothing that everywhere in Europe the Jews are reigning over the stock exchanges, not for nothing that they control capital, not for nothing that they are masters of credit, and not for nothing, I repeat, that they are the masters of all international politics.

What is coming is the complete triumph of Jewish ideas, before which, sentiments of humanity, the thirst for truth, Christian feelings, and the national and popular pride of Europe must bow.

And what will be in the future is known also to the Jews themselves: Their reign is approaching, their complete reign!” View Entire Article Here.

IN LIGHT OF JEWRY’S CONTROL of Europe’s financial & social sphere, Dostoevsky then voiced his fears regarding Jewry’s threat to Russia:

“What if there were only three million Russians and there were eighty million Jews? How would they treat Russians and how would they lord it over them? What rights would Jews give Russians?

Wouldn’t they turn them into slaves? Worse then that, wouldn’t they skin them altogether? Wouldn’t they slaughter them to the last man, to the point of complete extermination?” View Entire Article Here.

DOSTOEVSKY BROUGHT HIS PROPHECY to a head by predicting that Jewry’s religious dictates, coupled with the control of the “Yid and his bank,” would bring the Gentiles into complete subjugation:

“It is impossible to conceive of a Jew apart from his religion. They are all waiting for their messiah, all of them, from the lowest Yid to the highest and most learned philosopher and rabbi-Kabalist. They all believe that their messiah will unite them in Jerusalem and bring by his sword, all nations to their feet.

The Yid and his bank are now ruling over everything: over Europe, education, civilization, socialism, especially socialism, for he will use it to uproot Christianity and destroy its civilization. And when only anarchy remains, the Yid will be in command of everything.

For while the Jew goes about preaching socialism, he will stick together with his own, and after all the riches of Europe have been wasted, the Yid’s bank will still be there.” View Entire Quote Here & Here.

Scary, Isn’t it? And, Very Much Up To Date Is It Not?
… Brother Nathanael Kapner, A Former Jew, Reporting …

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Abraham Lincoln’s “Bank War”

February 27, 2009

Abraham Lincoln’s “Bank War”

February 27, 2009

In memory of John “Birdman” Bryant

February 26, 2009

Friday, Feb. 27, 2009, at 7 PM Eastern, VoR will re-broadcast Peter Schaenk’s July 8, 2008 interview with John “Birdman” Bryant. Today John’s wife posted a note on the Birdman’s Web site reporting that John died at around 3 AM this morning of congestive heart failure. We wish to express our sincere consolations to John’s wife and family.

Rev. Ted Pike writes about the Silence before the WHAT?

February 26, 2009

CHRISTIAN SILENCE BEFORE HATE BILL THREAT 

By Rev. Ted Pike

Although two supremely threatening federal hate crimes bills have been moving forward in the House Judiciary Committee over the past six weeks, almost all large Christian/conservative “watch dog” groups remain silent.
In the past week, I have called virtually all of them requesting they watch my latest video, How to Kill the Hate Bills. I called 64 of the largest conservative organizations in America, including Focus on the Family’s 37 state affiliates; I explained the imminent threat to freedom posed by these bills. I also called the largest 30 evangelical and Catholic pro-life organizations, emphasizing that hate laws have them in their crosshairs. Since January 1, I also warned against the hate bills on 41 talk radio interviews and produced two 10-minute video documentaries and several articles posted at www.truthtellers.org.
In spite of this, few organizations provide timely alerts concerning the grave, impending threat of HR 256 and HR 262!
On Sunday, February 22, this was the record of silence from the websites of conservative “watchdog” groups:

•    American Center for Law and Justice? Silence.
•    Christian Coalition? Silence.
•    Family Research Council? Silence.
•    Focus on the Family? Silence.
•    Traditional Values Coalition? Silence.
•    Coral Ridge Ministries? Silence.
•    Alliance Defense Fund? Silence.
•    Liberty Counsel? Silence.
•    The Rutherford Institute? Silence.
•    Concerned Women for America? Silence.

After diligent search, we discovered the American Family Association disapproves of HR 256 but makes no mention of HR 262. Only Pastor Rod Parsley’s Center for Moral Clarity powerfully alerts its readers to the danger of both HR 256 and HR 262.
Among smaller watchdog groups, The Christian Anti-Defamation League and Americans for Truth spiritedly alert their constituents to the threats of both bills. Janet Porter, of Faith to Action, wrote an excellent article mentioning the threat of the hate bills, which was recently posted by World Net Daily. Yet Restore America has nothing.

Incredible Silence

Why are Christian/conservative leaders—who have most to lose if these anti-Christian, freedom-stealing laws are passed—so silent?
I’m afraid most know that, beneath a surface as thin as an onion skin, hate laws are primarily the work, not of liberals or homosexuals, but of the Jewish Anti-Defamation League (Watch, Hate Laws: Making Criminals of Christians).  They are also afraid to offend the American Jewish community, which overwhelmingly supports hate laws.  (See, Why Most Jews Support the Hate Bill)
Even the most tentative research into who is behind hate laws hits the ADL bull’s eye. Are you skeptical that this is true? Google “hate laws.” You’ll find ADL the number one organization promoting hate laws. (You’ll also find our National Prayer Network and its Truthtellers website to be the number one organization opposing ADL’s monstrous agenda.)
Terrified of being labeled “anti-Semitic” for opposing Jewish hate laws, most conservative organizations shy away from the hate laws issue. Few, if any, extensively educate against hate legislation. As a result, it is extremely difficult to find Christian/conservative writers who can quickly produce hard-hitting articles during legislative crises, such as now.
Tragically, we again see Christian leaders quake before Jewish powers of intimidation. They would rather risk our Christian civilization and its precious freedoms than to displease anti-Christ Jews!
If you called these organizations, asking why they have not taken significant action, you would probably receive the same answer I did: “We are monitoring these bills closely.” Your time would be much better spent calling the House Judiciary members, those crucial legislators who right now are deciding whether the hate bills will go forward in Congress.  
Some may ask, “Why do I need to call? Aren’t thousands of others fulfilling this task?” Last week one of my supporters called four Republican members of the Judiciary and asked how many calls they received that day. Thousands? Hundreds? Hardly! Not one had received more than four calls (including hers) that day! Such infinitesimal protest is all the influence a once-mighty religious right seems willing to muster at this time.

Weary of the Fight?

Two years ago, thousands called the pivotal Judiciary members and jumpstarted tremendous opposition to the hate bill. God and the American people defeated it and five other pieces of Orwellian legislation! Today in America, there has never been more awareness of the dangers of hate laws and their abuses in other countries. A Harvard student education group now says the whole subject of hate laws has become very controversial on Capitol Hill. (View Harvard Model Congress article)
Yet now we see a drastic slump in Christian activism and concern.
So what’s your reason for not calling the members of the House Judiciary? Perhaps your answer is as evasive as almost everyone else’s.
One thing, however, we can know with ominous certainty.  All of us will be shivering in the gulags of tomorrow unless we speak out right now. Each will have to live with the haunting, condemning question: Why didn’t I just pick up a phone and dial a toll free number to save freedom while I could?
If you want to spare yourself that dire fate and tormented conscience that will go with it, call your members of the House and Senate. Then come to www.truthtellers.org for the 40 members of the House Judiciary Committee. Call them toll free at 1-877-851-6437 or toll 1-202-225-3121.  Tell them: “Please don’t vote for the hate crime bills, HR 256 and HR 262.  Hate laws have taken away free speech in Canada and many countries.”
It is not too late… yet.

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           Listen to Rev. Ted Pike debunk hate bill lies. Watch our 10-minute video, “Hate Laws Lies: Exposed!” at www.truthtellers.org. Also at www.truthtellers.org, watch our gripping 82-minute documentary “Hate Laws: Making Criminals of Christians.”
           Let the Anti-Defamation League teach you how they have saddled 45 states with hate laws capable of persecuting Christians, and spearhead attempts to pass the federal hate crimes bill: http://www.adl.org/99hatecrime/intro.asp.
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A Brief For Whitey

February 25, 2009

The Self-Chosen Vulturecrats

February 25, 2009

Please Welcome VoR’s New Program Director…Peter Schaenk!

February 24, 2009

Prothink Radio Worldwide – Mon., Feb. 23, 2009

February 23, 2009

VoR radio hosts Mike Delaney, Greg Palino and Quest join for another episode of Prothink Radio Worldwide. Discussed on the show:

  • Activism
  • Leon Degrelle
  • Morals
  • Pharmaceutical drugs
  • And more

1 hour 28 min.

Bishop Richard Williamson Ordered To Leave Argentina

February 21, 2009

Bishop Richard Williamson Ordered To Leave Argentina

February 21, 2009

Peter Schaenk interviews Gordon Baum, Mar. 4, 2009

February 21, 2009

Update: The interview is now available here.

This Wednesday, VoR radio host Peter Schaenk interviews Gordon Baum, CEO and one of the founders of the Council of Conservative Citizens. Peter will talk to Gordon about that organization, about the two pages devoted to the organization in Ann Coulter’s latest book, Guilty: Liberal “Victims” and Their Assault on America, and about other topics.

About Gordon Baum

CofCC

Gordon was born in St. Louis in 1940 to a family of Pennsylvania Dutch origin. A veteran of the Viet Nam war, he served four years in the US Navy from 1958 – 1961, attaining the rank of E-5. Married with three children, Baum worked full time during the day for General Motors while attaining his bachelor’s degree in History. He then took night classes and graduated from the St. Louis School of Law, the oldest law school west of the Mississippi. After beginning practice as an attorney, he began working for the Citizens’ Council of America, acting as Midwest field director from 1969 – 1982. Gordon was a radio talk show host from 1995 – 2005. He is now semi-retired from practicing law and is the CEO of the Council of Conservative Citizens, which he helped to found in the late 1980s. As head of the Council, he has done hundreds of interviews, including with such notables as Catherine Crier and Bill O’Reilly.

Listener Comments, Feb. 2009

February 20, 2009

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Abraham Lincoln’s America

February 19, 2009

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