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Schaenk: War of Perception, Wed. 12/3

December 3, 2008

VoR radio host Peter Schaenk returns! On this show, Peter discusses:

  • Some of the hysterical posts attacking his broadcast.
  • His take on the VNN vs VoR wars.
  • Plus all the latest news.

1 hour 59 min.

Comments

92 Responses to “Schaenk: War of Perception, Wed. 12/3”

  1. Howdy Doody on December 4th, 2008 3:21 am

    Please Post a Transcript of the JFK speech. Thank you!

  2. Howdy Doody on December 4th, 2008 3:27 am

    Peter

    Too many folk actually sent Hal Turder Cash/help in 03-03-04 before waking up., which came from many men working with their hands!! Even Jared Taylor Mr. Turder an interview, but as it became self evident what Turder was or wasn’t he was dropped like a loose dog turd.

  3. Howdy Doody on December 4th, 2008 3:31 am

    The Information is more important than if it is delievered by John Doe or Captain Crunch. Wake up!

    Peter some of us are bogged down in work and personal issues with not even enought time for personal issues.

    That being said, let me thank you again for your work.

    Mookie no matter what was a A hole from day one. By Jan. 02, I knew he was a false flag, but hoped he was note.

  4. roscoe on December 4th, 2008 4:17 am

    Hitler was a Judaic!

  5. Howdy Doody on December 4th, 2008 4:35 am

    HAS VOR ever banned a defective enemy alien from this blog ?

  6. roscoe on December 4th, 2008 6:05 am

    Why ban MLDL or Martel– there are all sorts of lunatics around here as bad as them.

  7. Allan Hampton on December 4th, 2008 11:27 am

    Peter, very powerful and truthful broadcast, thank you.

    Yep, we are fighting over every “issue.”

    Tell me how sending money to VOR, VNN, or any of the other so-called Patriot broadcasters will make Jews, or any of the other issues go away or solve those problems?

    OK, it is said to wake-up the audience (or stand up), then an awaken audience standing up will do what? I can’t believe waking up and or standing up will solve any of the issues mentioned.

    Allan

  8. katman on December 4th, 2008 11:53 am

    http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/LAC.20081129.AHENAKEW29/TPStory/National

    SASKATOON — A former aboriginal leader accused of willfully promoting hatred wrapped up his testimony yesterday by saying that Jews caused the Korean War in addition to the Second World War……

    Canadian Indian, getting arrested for discussing jewish involvement in wars. Imagine that.

  9. MT Fury on December 4th, 2008 2:45 pm

    Excellent Peter.

    The Jew has certainly done his work.

    Christianity = Moral Order.

    Paganism = Amorality.

    Jews must laugh long and hard every time some ass calls himself an Odinist.

  10. katman on December 4th, 2008 4:39 pm

    January 20, 2000

    Rabbi Daniel Lapin
    TOWARD TRADITION
    P.O. Box 97027
    Washington, D.C. 20090

    Rabbi Lapin:

    Since I would be a hypocrite if I called you “Dear Rabbi,” or “Brother”, let me state that you Jews sure do KNOW the meaning of “chutzpah!” You come to America, seeking asylum from world persecution, are given our protection and kindness, and repay us by “biting the hand that fed you”. Now you want to impose Jewish TRADITIONS on Christian America, to control us, and have the “gall” to approach ‘is with your TALMUDIC fables concerning Judeo-Christian values, when there never were any, as they are diametrically opposed and headed in different directions. Your return to TRADITION is the very thing my Savior and King, Jesus the Christ fought against when He was on earth and your people murdered Him. In the Gospel of Matthew, He was reported to have told your religious leaders, (and they probably weren’t, unless through Esau/Edom): “But in vain do ye (Jews) worship me (God), teaching for doctrines the commandments. of men.” You realize, I’m sure, that your TALMUD is. nothing but the “traditions of 1,000 years of Jewry, mixed with the occult practices of heathen Babylon.”

    You would have much more of my respect, if you were to speak the truth, and say you “hate Jesus Christ and all Christians,” instead of playing on the sympathy of good but “Jewish brainwashed” Christians who have been taught that you Christ haters, are really God’s Chosen. What a monumental falsehood. Not all Christians are stupid. Some of us have even read and studied your TALMUD, although we KNOW this is a crime in Jewish eyes, and we KNOW how you really feel about Christ and Christians.

    Secular Humanism is taking over because it is under Jewish control. Don’t try and fool us into believing that a Jew, who hates Jesus Christ, and has been brought up that way, wants to cooperate with Christians by returning to TRADITIONAL CHRISTIAN VALUES. It would be more honest if you said: “A return to Jewish values!”

    You and your work have nothing but my contempt and I call to your attention God’s prophesy concerning your Jewish people in (Malachi 1:2-4). Here we are told how Jews will return “to the land where they were cast out”, and attempt to rebuilt it, but that while they would rebuild, God would throw down, and you Jews will finally become known as “The border of wickedness; the people against whom the Lord hath indignation forever.”

    Yes, my Jewish enemy. A Day of Reckoning is coming, when you who preach a false Gospel, and refused to accept God’s Son, Jesus Christ, will answer for your crimes against God and His “true Israel” people, of which you are not a part.

    I will do everything in my power to expose and counter your false efforts to entice Christians who have been “brainwashed” by your Jewish propaganda machine and ask God to allow you to “fall into the ditch” you have dug for my people (see Psalm 7:14,15).

    You enumerate the sins of our government, and I agree with you they are an savory, wicked crew. But you fail to point out in your letter, that every evil mentioned, is being sponsored by Judaism. The ACLU is Jewish led and controlled; as is the A.D.L. which was the fomenter of THE F.B.I. OPERATION MEGIDDIO, aimed at harming and silencing CHRISTIAN PATRIOTS.

    The abortion clinics you rightly expose, are for the most part Jewish owned, and the abortionists are almost 100% Jews. You KNOW this yet you are not honest enough to admit it in you false letter. The homosexual menace is Jewish approved, as you well know? You call this a CULTURAL, WAR, I say it is a WAR BETWEEN the FORCES of ANTI-CHRIST (Judaism), and the forces of a God loving, honoring Israel.

    We shall OVERCOME, because we are on the side of the Almighty. Your defeat and destruction has already been decided in the council of heaven. You cannot win! You are fighting a propaganda war that will hasten your destruction! I detest hypocrites, and without a doubt, as a Jewish rabbi, you took the Kol Nidre Oath on the Day of Atonement. This means that you like all other Jews are a liar, and that we cannot trust what you say. My “true Israel” people have been warned, (2 Corinthians 6:14) – “Be ye (Christians) not unequally yoked together with unbelievers (a Jewish-Judeo-Christian coalition); for what fellowship has righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?…” May the God of Israel stop you in your blasphemous attempts to brainwash His people and make money off it.

    In the Service of Him and His Israel People,

    Jack Mohr

    Amen, Mr Mohr, may you rest in peace………

    http://www.scripturesforamerica.org/html2/jmpmlt06.html

  11. roscoe on December 4th, 2008 7:47 pm

    I found this link on the KFWB LA site. Maybe there is something to it if MSM is covering the story

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YYdk26ezVio

  12. GEORGE WELLS on December 4th, 2008 8:26 pm

    MT

    reading and thinking would solve your mental problems, otherwise a caring person with a 45 could help you out.

  13. GEORGE WELLS on December 4th, 2008 8:34 pm

    Blind Peter, looks like you have your own heaven here. Sort of a salvation sideshow. Christianity was created for goy with prejudice!!!!!! The so called pagan world was much more respectful to others and far less cruel than what we have seen under a Christian overlordship for the past two thousand years.

    Christianity has nothing to do with the simple teachings of Jesus.

    As Jesus said, “let the blind lead the blind so they shall all fall into the same pit.”

    You are setting back the progress of the souls who listen to you man years.

  14. Obadiah 1:18 on December 4th, 2008 9:33 pm

    VNN has become a WN farce infested with iridescent Jews, such as Psychological Shock and FW Braun, whom Linder will not permit you to name, lest you be banned, and antis of every variety.

    Once upon a time VNN was a place for promoting and organizing White activism, now it’s an online Roman Coliseum where Jews and tinpot agent provocateurs sit back and laugh as WN Christians and atheists tear each other to pieces.

  15. F on December 4th, 2008 10:45 pm

    SCHAENK! THIS SHOW WAS BRUTAL!

    ALL YOU DID IS RANT. IT’S DEPRESSING. MAYBE THAT’S THE POINT?

    PLEASE DON’T MAKE A SHOW UNLESS YOU INTERVIEW SOMEONE OR DO SOME RESEARCH……..OR TRY SOME GUERILLA TACTICS LIKE PHONING UP MOOKIE OR OTHER “TRUTHERS”

    PLEASE INSPIRE.

  16. AuntieSemite on December 4th, 2008 11:26 pm

    Peter’s right.
    Any broadcaster, especially one who is in our corner, shouldn’t have to identify himself. If Peter put up pictures of his family along with his real name, it wouldn’t increase his credibility one bit. But it would serve to expose himself and his family to public scrutiny by those who would like to see guys like Peter silenced by discrediting them or by whatever means necessary.
    So, like he said, anonymity and surprise can be our best weapon. And by the way, I for one, would like to see Peter stick around. This program is a very powerful tool for reprogramming we goy. Myself included. It would be a true loss for the white awakening if men like Peter gave up and stuck to their day jobs. Be thankful that they do what they do. I listen to other networks as well. But VOR is most effective, considering the low volume of programming presented.
    Having said that, I didn’t pay much attention to VNN over the years. I listened to FTL , Stan and YJ sometimes. But I didn’t sink my teeth into it. So I am a bit ignorant as to what happened over there. So I have been listening to Alex Linder a bit lately. I found him very informative and articulate as well.
    There can only be one truth in any given situation or equation. Therefore, I have opted to NOT throw the baby out with the bathwater. Critical thinking by the individual is the key. I think that David Duke is on to something when he refers to us as European-Americans. It’s a small but important step in leveling the racial playing field that has been pitted against us, and uniting whites with differing opinions under one umbrella.
    We should get our information from as many sources as possible. Good and bad, trusted and not. Then use our rediscovered ability of critical thinking skills to compare the notes that we gather in the process. Although I don’t listen to Mookie, I believe that he serves a purpose. And in Mookies case, he just proves that there really are gatekeepers pedaling dis-info and fear for profit. Much like these Judeo-Christian preachers who are in it for the power it brings not to mention the cash.
    There are many twigs and branches being clipped by many peoples, but history proves that in almost every case, it was the white race, that had the strength to chop at the root.

    I’ll sharpening my axe.

  17. Peter Schaenk on December 4th, 2008 11:31 pm

    “The so called pagan world was much more respectful to others and far less cruel than what we have seen under a Christian overlordship for the past two thousand years.”

    What facts do you have to support this statement?

  18. AuntieSemite on December 4th, 2008 11:42 pm

    katman;

    That letter says alot. Thanks for posting that.

    I have never heard of Jack Mohr before either.

    I look forward to researching about him.

    The whole Judeo-Christian idea IS anti-Christ.. John Hagee and the like are replacing the authority of Jesus with the fulfillment of Israel doctrine, which puts the truth of salvation on the back burner. These people are actually worshiping the Jews and Israel INSTEAD of Christ.

    In Greek, Anti-Cristo means, instead of-the annointed one.

    Makes sense to me.

  19. AuntieSemite on December 4th, 2008 11:50 pm

    There are many twigs and branches being clipped by many peoples, but history proves that in almost every case, it was the white race, that had the strength to chop at the root.

    I’ll “be” sharpening my axe.

    ( compelled to correct )

  20. New America on December 5th, 2008 12:52 am

    Summary of Hour One:
    This excellent program began with Peter’s three points about his screen name, and his birth name: one, as a professional in several industries, you use different names for different projects; two, the critics have taken the bait of Jones and the Patriotards, and three, people want to be famous – pure ego. Our Opponents want you to disrupt more than you discern, by disrupting and destroying the programs, and the VoR network, more than you know.

    The next topic was a discussion of Martin Lipstedt’s postings, with Peter observing that Martin’s posts were, at best. totally useless.

    At 52, Peter made a very asture observation:
    Lipstedt is “typical of White Nationalist leadership. If there is a stronger argument against White Nationalism, I can not imagine what it is.”

    Peter defines THE – Issue:

    The problem is saving Civilization.

    Perhaps we could put that phrase in all of our screensavers.

    Peter continued that Whites do not WANT to save Civilization, in part, because they do not believe in themselves; not only do they not believe in themselves, they positively HATE themselves, their Race, their Culture, and Christianity, the religion of their Ancestors. They are NOT ‘nonbelievers”; no, they HATE Christianity, which is THE Prime Mover of Western Civilization.

    The irony is this: when they call themselves “racists,” they are using the term of the Jew to define themselves. This is not unlike taking the tattoo of a slave.

    (Parenthetically, I have argued that, incredibly, the Children of the Sixties literally want the Culture that gave them the highest standard of living, and the greatest rights and freedom in the history of the world, to commit suicide.)

    Peter got it right, at 56 min, when he noted it is most baffling; the WNists FIGHT with the Pagans, FIGHT with the WN Atheists, FIGHT with the WN Christians. It is most baffling, because being antiChristian serves no purpose other than the Jew World Order. This is a reflection of the current popular culture, and WHO controls that popular culture? That’s right.

    You can praise Santa Claus, and the benefits of Hindusim and Buddhism all day, and no one will bother you. Yet, the simle comment that Christianity is THE superior system of morality, AND Christianity is the Foundation of Western Civilization, opens a firestorm of animosity.

    The focus of WN efforts – all efforts – MUST be on Western Civilization, and the furtherance of Western Civilization MUST be the CENTERPIECE of all of our efforts. If VOR has “no place for Christianity,” then what?

    If we are not to give at least equal time to Christianity – and there seem to be those who have “no place for Christianity” on VOR (kind of like VNN, in that, by the way), then you are being attacked daily on the topic of Christianity by insane people = people who are literally insane.

    It seems these people might believe that, somehow, God has let them down, as their position is not agnostic, or athetitsic – it is ANTI-Christian, and all they are helping are the Jewish leadership, people who wish to destroy the existing order.

    In the second hour, at 74 minutes, the controversy between VNN’s Alex Linder and VOR’s Dietrich was discussed. Peter noted this is, a microcosm of the “Movement,” is an excellent example of how White Nationalism will eat itself.

    The gist of VNN is anti-Christianity, equaled only by their hatred of nonWhites and Jews. If you want to alienate 90% of your natural base, that’s fine, but that’s no way to start a Movement.

    OTOH, there is no fault in Dietrich.

    VNN and VOR are both good websites; if they are truly interested in helping White Nationalism, bury the hatchet and move forward.

    I have to take issue with this; when Linder does analysis and commentary, he is without equal.

    He seems to be an exceptionally poor judge of character; talk with Dietrich about the Hell Dietrich had to go throuh to fix VNN Forum after Linder gave Mrs. Kevin Alfred Strom Administrator priveleges, which inclde the power to harvest IP addresses.

    As to Linder’s being “threatened by VOR,” well, that’s his problem. God only knows, we have insurmountable opportunities.

    Peter noted “this is ideology gone wild.”

    I see a somewhat different dynamic at work.

    I see that VNN gets to be successful, by atracting excellent commentators and hosts like Geoff Beck. Might it be that Linder is threatened by the success of others, and then alienates the people who make him look not just good, but better? There have been several such incidents in the history of VNN, and first rate people have left – for one reason or another – and show no interest in coming back.

    There must be an excellent reason for that; if it was one or two *ahem* “lone wolves,” I could see it. But there are first rate people, who are not coming back. Fortunately, the best – like Chain – left and did better, with the PODBLANC website,

    The greater issue we face is Cultural, and national, collapse. Pornography helps to insure no children are born, and who controls pornography? The negative birth rate of the White Race says all you need to hear.

    We MUST stop talking and put boots on the ground. Who does this? A man with wife and children, or some skinhead with Nazi tattoos jerking off in the shower?

    As for the so-called “Christian Right,” If you support the State of Israel as it is today, you ARE a Jew.

    Who is to blame for this?

    White Racial Leaders, who refused to call a spade a spade.

    Kennedy spoke of such a group, and ran up against Johnson, a Zionist, who was fingered by Hunt on his deathbed for his role in the Kennedy Assassination. Piper left the fact of Johnson’s support for Zionism out in his book.

    End of Hour 1

  21. katman on December 5th, 2008 1:16 am

    This excellent program began with Peter’s three points about his screen name, and his birth name: one, as a professional in several industries, you use different names for different projects; two, the critics have taken the bait of Jones and the Patriotards, and three, people want to be famous – pure ego. Our Opponents want you to disrupt more than you discern, by disrupting and destroying the programs, and the VoR network, more than you know.<<<<

    the tards know full well who peter is. its no big secret, i can assure you. where do you think mookie got his info? they all know who he is. he has been around austin for a long time doing his thing over there. its no big deal. just because some wn people want to know, well , heck, do you guys have computers ? ha ha ha…:) peter just likes being on the mic……

  22. roscoe on December 5th, 2008 1:30 am

    I thought I heard Mookie say a while back that Hunt actually admitted to being one of the three tramps. Did Hunt actually admit he was one of them” Did he say anthing about Sturgis?

  23. brutus on December 5th, 2008 4:03 am

    Peter,

    Martin Linstetd (Sp?) is fairly well known and you’ve got him pegged for what he is. He used to post on VNN until his arrest for I believe molesting a boy in his family. There are plenty of other people around who could fill you in on the details. Pay him no mind, he’s just an asshole who needs to have his ass kicked.

    Very good show. I agree with most of your points. I’m a regular poster on VNN and I’m not here to argue your criticism of VNN, but only to give you some input that might be of some use to you.

    Many WNs see the current Christian churches as major facilitators of racemixing by virtue of their sponsorship of countless multitudes of nonWhite immigrants into White nations. In my opinion this church-sponsored immigration is no less of a threat to the White race than the jewish pornography problem you’ve mentioned on the show. Many others at VNN feel the same way and they’ve taken a hardline against Christianity for it. However, unfortunately many have also taken the extreme position of blaming the creed instead of those apostates within the church who’ve subverted it as a tool to be used to promote the zionist agenda.

    I was raised a Christian, however I will not attend a church that promotes multiculturalism at the expense of the White race. My position can be better shown in a recent post I made on VNN directed at the atheist WNs:

    “Christianity has indeed been subverted by the jew and there was a time when Christianity was the number one nemesis of the jew.

    All human history tells us that a man will die for his faith.

    The reason why is simple: The jew fears a religious zealot more than anything else. History is loaded with so-called religious wars, many of those wars were fought against the jew and it’s proxies. Today’s Islamic Freedom Fighter is just another in a long line of religious warrior who’ve taken on the jew for the greater glory of God. As a matter of fact, we don’t see any non-religious groups fighting a bloody campaign against the jew, now do we?

    If we try to use “only” logic and reason to persuade our folk to join us, we will certainly die as a race. Any hack salesman knows that people buy anything based upon their emotional impulses rather than via reason. Spirituality is all emotion based as is faith in God. Throughout time men have been driven to fight for their nation when their cause is intertwined with a spiritual imperative. And when there is no spiritual imperative at the core of a nation’s reason for being, those nations have vanished from the collective memory of humanity.

    It would be a million times easier to re-orientate Christianity to its former anti-jew position rather than to attempt to force the faithful to give up their faith based upon reason and logic. This is just a plain fact.

    Those who disagree with me will try to smear me by claiming that I’m a believer of this faith or that faith, when in fact I’m not. I simply won’t allow personal bias to cloud my thinking of the right path to follow. If a man needs a Bible in his hand in order to give him the balls needed to kill a jew, I say let him have his Bible.”

    You see, I also believe that we will never free ourselves from the jewish yoke without bloodshed. Think Crusaders and you’ll know what I’m talking about.

    Also, I think some of the resistance that you’ve received about your pro Christian position is due largely because you fail to “loudly” criticize the Christian church for its’ sellout to the zionists. And let’s make no mistake, the majority of Christians today are pro-zionists, even if unwittingly. Yes, I know that you’ve made some remarks in this regard, however I think if you were to be a little more assertive in your criticism of the church you might find that you’d be better able to reach the hearts of those who’ve turned their back on the faith. Of course you’d receive even more heat from our enemies as well.

    brutus

  24. Charles Martel on December 5th, 2008 4:39 am

    The thing is, I could really give a flying f’ less whether the federal informer network bans me.

    F’em all. You are all bunch of idiots. Half of you believe that re-written judaism is going to save our asses. The rest think that we should believe in “nothing”. Yet all of you fail to embrace your genetic heritage. I just wish we had more like Derrick MacThomas in the “movement”. Metzger is now playing his stuff on W.A.R. I suggest you all check it out.

    This so called “movement” has driven off so many good people. Time and time again. I’ve tried to take a reasonable stance and debate with Shaenk, but he’d just go “savage” on me every time. Overkill.

    There is no arguing with these idiots so I’m bailing on this bullshit. There are better things I can do with my time.

    As for me, I am done with VNN. I won’t even waste my time on their broadcasts anymore. Vanbiber and Metzger were both right about them.

  25. Stu Gavin on December 5th, 2008 9:17 am

    To Charles: you can always go to the Phora, plenty of White nationalists post there.

    http://www.thephora.net

  26. Yippy on December 5th, 2008 9:26 am

    No brutus, you are wrong. The Paganistic, Jewish pornofest that the West is a much greater threat than “Church sponsored” immigration. It is much more extensive and subversive. The mainstreaming of porn undermines our very cultural fabric, our reproductive capacity even.

    It should be noted to that the Church are not the prime movers (as Peter would say) in the Mexican mass immigration/open borders movement. But rather the leftists, the global free marketeers, the feminist women who refuse to have women and suppress the birth rate; all while workers and taxpayers are still needed. You are not cutting down to the fundamentals of the problem.

    Rather you are catching the problem when it is well developed and just saying “blame the Church!”. IMO, this is an insufficient analysis and it is ineffective in turning the thing around.

    Great show Peter. You addressed the issues at hand cogently. Your position is quite a solid one and is worth defending.

    “Excellent Peter.

    The Jew has certainly done his work.

    Christianity = Moral Order.

    Paganism = Amorality.

    Jews must laugh long and hard every time some ass calls himself an Odinist.”

    I concur. It could easily be argued that if people of the Pagan mindset were taken from their time and culture of thousands of years ago, and dropped into the low-birth rate feminist NWO multicult of 2008, they would just shrug and say “alright”.

    Lets imagine that 300 years pass from now and there is no cultural Christianity to be found. It is nothing but a historical subject. Meanwhile the J/NWO reigns supreme; where will all these anti-Christian Pagans and Atheists be then? What will they blame then?

  27. katman on December 5th, 2008 9:58 am

    http://www.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idUSTRE4B34BC20081204

    well i guess canada has a king now. they told members of parliament to go home last night. are you canadians going to take that laying down? oh i forget. they took your guns a few years ago so now you are toothless tigers………well ice is up. go play hockey. might as well. we won’t be long behind you.

  28. brutus on December 5th, 2008 11:11 am

    Yippy,

    You’ve implied that porno is a much greater threat to the White race than Christian sponsored mud immigration…….I say prove that assertion. I don’t believe you can. My contention to the contrary was only my opinion and I stated it as such because we have no measurable way of knowing which one causes the more harm, now do we?

    The church is not above criticism and we have to be honest about that. That was essentially my point to Peter.

    .

  29. Howdy Doody on December 5th, 2008 12:34 pm

    Peter

    Take heed IMO of What Brutus has suggested to you.

    There is b.s. nuts and trolls that post on White sites, but make no mistake about this, what we write and say is important per the Hearts, Minds and the spirit of people need and beg for reasoned guidence and pondering of what to do.

    Thank you Brutus and Peter.

  30. Z.O.G. on December 5th, 2008 12:49 pm

    katman,

    You say that all the Patriotards already know Schaenk’s real identity? Well, then, I guess I’m not a Patriotard, because I have NO CLUE who Schaenk really is.

    You say that his identity is common knowledge around Austin, Texas. This makes sense, because I was wondering how Mookie would know who he is otherwise. So it must be common knowledge in that geographic area.

    So, katman, who is he?

  31. Z.O.G. on December 5th, 2008 12:50 pm

    brutus said, “It would be a million times easier to re-orientate Christianity to its former anti-jew position…”

    Yeah, good luck with that one. Let us know how that works out for you, okay? LOL :-)

  32. Z.O.G. on December 5th, 2008 12:52 pm

    New America(Edgar Steele),

    I don’t think we really need a minute by minute summary of “Peter Schaenk’s” latest broadcast. What is the point of that, huh?

  33. Z.O.G. on December 5th, 2008 1:24 pm

    katman,

    I did a Joogle search to try to ascertain Schaenk’s real identity, but I couldn’t find a damn thing. So when you imply that this information is readily available on the internet, you are not being accurate.

  34. Yippy on December 5th, 2008 1:29 pm

    Placing the Church as the prime mover in the mass immigration saga is rather silly, brutus.

  35. Z.O.G. on December 5th, 2008 1:51 pm

    Maybe so, but the Catholic Church is definitely a major force behind the mass immigration of brown-skinned invaders from Mexico into the United States. Nobody can deny that.

  36. New America on December 5th, 2008 2:44 pm

    in reply to Z.O.G.
    you wrote:

    New America(Edgar Steele),

    I don’t think we really need a minute by minute summary of “Peter Schaenk’s” latest broadcast. What is the point of that, huh?

    in reply:
    One, it wasn’t a “minute by minute summary.”

    Two, it covered the high points of a very important show, where th manifest failure of what has called itself “White Nationalism” were openly discussed – and THAT is very important.

    Really, and sadly, Movement Past resembles a series of low-grade cults, each trying to carry forward the spiritual flame of a religion that do not bother to try to understand.

    They are HAPPY functioning at the cult level.

    And THAT ties back to my high school cafeteria clique model for contemporary White Nationalism, with precious few exceptions.

  37. roscoe on December 5th, 2008 4:16 pm

    ZOG– I have some news for u. The v2 anti-christ, anti-church headed by a judeo masonic anti-pope is not the Catholic church.

  38. katman on December 5th, 2008 4:18 pm

    katman,

    I did a Joogle search to try to ascertain Schaenk’s real identity, but I couldn’t find a damn thing. So when you imply that this information is readily available on the internet, you are not being accurate.<<<<

    well i am zog, but i can’t go there. it would piss of the unknown radio talk show host? :)

  39. katman on December 5th, 2008 4:39 pm

    Maybe so, but the Catholic Church is definitely a major force behind the mass immigration of brown-skinned invaders from Mexico into the United States. Nobody can deny that.<<<

    correct. the joos also are also , behind this for purposes of racial miscegenation. by allowing unbridled immigration of mud races into the united states , it weakens us by affecting our racial makeup and character. the jews then start in on their racial ideologies about multi culturalism and all the other jewish inspired ideas that go with that. this causes weakness and causes us to pull in different directions while we try and get the jewish boot off of our necks. while we are being controlled and bothered by the jewish system , we also fight each other and dislike each other because this mindset is engendered in us since day one by the jews. There is verse in the Bible that says, all things work together for God and according to His purpose. In this situation, all things work together for the good of the communist jew, who wants to install his one world government as soon as possible. when you study and read a lot of things, it is amazing how many times catholics and jews collaborate together for a cause. this is one of those times. roscoe and his ilk will belly ache about what i am saying , but it is true. so true. and noted too. jews feel that catholicism is a jewish religious system and when they join it, they feel fulfilled . the reason for that is , that if you look at their religious dogma, it is very jewish in its nature. another words , when a jew becomes a catholic, he does not give up anything. this is why he likes it as a belief system. so anytime you see a jew who says he is a convert to catholicism, eye him with extreme suspicion. has anything changed since the middle ages? nope. same game, different name. of course friar roscoe does not have a problem with jews who convert even though they converted since day one to provide cover for themselves while they did whatever it is they do and nothing has changed until this day. vatican 1, vatican 2, it makes no difference. the catholic church has always been an appendage of judaism and always will be. it is not a Christian religious belief system, no matter what anyone says. it simply is not. and never was. but again, i digress…….

  40. katman on December 5th, 2008 4:44 pm

    ZOG– I have some news for u. The v2 anti-christ, anti-church headed by a judeo masonic anti-pope is not the Catholic church.<<<<

    roscoe, what you don’t seem to understand is that it makes no difference between vatican one and vatican two. you play these word games and you don’t even understand the basic concepts of faith and you don’t even ever read the Bible. sometimes i wonder why it is you even hang around here at all. it is a constant mantra with you, and you sound like a broken record, saying the same damn thing over and over again. check it out roscoe. enough of these guys around here have been reading and enough of them know what is up and son, you just can’t cut it with this constant barrage of catholic church propaganda……..get thee behind me satan……:)

  41. katman on December 5th, 2008 4:45 pm

    check it out zog. i will keep talking and posting and pretty soon , old roscoe will go running and crying to his daddy……….:) calling me names like katzman and shit……..man this dude is too much…

  42. Z.O.G. on December 5th, 2008 6:04 pm

    lol, katman.

    Yes, there are similarities between the Catholic Church and Judaism. Keep in mind that the very word ‘catholic’ means “universal”!

    Hmm, now what group of people do we know that is always advancing their religious and racial agenda through UNIVERSALISM and framing their ideas and arguments in UNIVERSALIST terms, huh? Hmm, who could that be? Does anybody know?

    ;-)

  43. roscoe on December 5th, 2008 6:15 pm

    It is maurice who conceived of your moniker katzman– give credit where credit is due.

  44. Z.O.G. on December 5th, 2008 6:15 pm

    katman,

    Well, like I said, I couldn’t find anything at all in a Joogle search about Peter Schaenk’s real identity. But you say it’s all over the place and is well known by lots of people? I find that hard to believe.

    If I give you my e-mail address, will you give me the information that way?

  45. New America on December 5th, 2008 6:20 pm

    in reply to Zog (2):

    I’d like to extend my previous remarks, because Peter is saying a LOT more here than most people would feel comfortable with.

    in my previous post in this thread, I wrote:

    Two, it covered the high points of a very important show, where th manifest failure of what has called itself “White Nationalism” were openly discussed – and THAT is very important.

    Really, and sadly, Movement Past resembles a series of low-grade cults, each trying to carry forward the spiritual flame of a religion that do not bother to try to understand.

    They are HAPPY functioning at the cult level.

    And THAT ties back to my high school cafeteria clique model for contemporary White Nationalism, with precious few exceptions.

    in further comment:
    I see White Nationalism as being a spirit that is pretty much the temporal manifestation of a religious impulse; your “love” extends outward from your immediate family, to your extended family, to your RACIAL Family – the organic nation – all in the fulfillment of a Purpose much greater than you can imagine.

    Family IS The Foundation Of The Nation.

    While past high school cafeteria cliques – Cults Of One Man, to a man – have focused on the Enemy of the Week – United Nations, Communists, ZOG, Jews, Whatever – they have not focused on seeing the Issue – the Battle – in the same framework their Racial Enemy has – a Positive Theory of Race, above all.

    Countries come and go, governments come and go, but the Jews kept hteir entire focus on Race, even at the expense of the family members – and it has worked for them.

    While Our Leaders were speaking of arms, and the use of arms, the Jews controlled the pictures you see, and the words you hear, persistently shaping the Agenda for their victory, at your self-destruction.

    Peter’s veil of anonymity serves us better than it does him, for it forces us to be what we want the world to become, rather than relying on the Leader to do all of the work for us.

    Recall my earlier remarks about the issue addressed by Briseis on a VNN FTL, an issue that NO ONE wants to go near: Why are the young men who are attracted to White Nationalism such, well, pathetic, soft, Goddamn losers underachievers, for now?

    Everyone I know who is involved in White Nationalism, with a handful of exceptions, do so this in addition to working at least one full-time job, and that is the positive Aspect of this – actually dealing w9th the Real World, and getting things DONE!

    Notice how “the exceptions” will be the ones getting all of the publicity in the Lamestream Media.

    There’s a reason for that.

    The problem with the Cult is that it becomes the Cult of One Man, whether that man if Sky God William Pierce, Shy God Uncle Adolph, or Alex Linder – whoever – and people who get locked in the Cult Aspect of White Nationalism remain forever Children, waiting for Daddy to “Come Back, and Fix Things!”

    Not going to happen.

    This is why I am a fan of Harold Covington’s Northwest Republic Analytical Framework; it forces you to work, intelligent, today, in the Creation of the white Nation, in time.

    This is EXACTLY what the Jews have done, with such remarkable success, for thousands of years.

    It is simply a matter of Technique, and Discipline.

    More to follow.

  46. Z.O.G. on December 5th, 2008 6:26 pm

    New America,

    Okay, we’re going into a worldwide deflationary economic depression. That is now all but certain. But here is what interests me at the moment.

    There is presently a bubble developing in long term U.S. Treasury bonds. So the questions are these:

    When does the U.S. Treasury bond bubble burst and collapse? When does the U.S. Treasury finally default on its interest payments and its debt because of an inability to roll it over? Is this going to happen in a few years? Or is the end much closer than that? Is this going to happen in a few months? I’m trying to get a handle on this.

  47. maurice on December 5th, 2008 10:36 pm

    thanks roscoe
    :)

  48. New America on December 5th, 2008 11:36 pm

    in reply to Z.O.G.

    you wrote:

    New America,

    Okay, we’re going into a worldwide deflationary economic depression. That is now all but certain. But here is what interests me at the moment.

    There is presently a bubble developing in long term U.S. Treasury bonds. So the questions are these:

    When does the U.S. Treasury bond bubble burst and collapse? When does the U.S. Treasury finally default on its interest payments and its debt because of an inability to roll it over? Is this going to happen in a few years? Or is the end much closer than that? Is this going to happen in a few months? I’m trying to get a handle on this.

    in reply:
    To quote James Rothschild, “Ah, if I knew that, I would be very rich.”

    However, a few obvious points come to mind:

    One, you are looking at the long bonds. Do you REALLY think we will be around in our present economic form thirty years from now? Do you REALLY think you know more than the men who can manipulate the values of those bonds – within a narrow range?

    To cite an example, note on recent trading days, I noticed right before Thanksgiving that SHORT term Treasuries – one and two MONTHS – were trading at negative valuation.

    Let me repeat that: NEGATIVE valuation.

    The last time I saw something like this was during OPEC 1 (73-74), when Switzerland paid hot money a NEGATIVE rate of interest.

    In short, you are SO AFRAID that you just want to make sure 99% of your money is there (for example,) and you will PAY THEM 1% to hold your money in their currency.

    I agree with your deflationary depression hypothesis, and there is no way around it.

    Quick Diatribe Against Gold:
    Most people look at gold, and think, “THERE’S a safe place to store my money!”

    No.

    One, worst case, the government can confiscate it, paying you X, and turning around and revaluing it at multiples of X. Roosevelt did this, and the gold confiscation laws are still on the books.

    Why do you suppose that is?

    Two, people talk with joy of gold hitting $5000 USD or $6000 USD per ounce.

    Think about it.

    $5000 UDS for gold means the breakdown of the division of labor in America, and certainly, a truly worthless dollar.

    That means, to modify the children’s game of “Paper, Rock, Scissors,” lead, iron, and steel take gold.

    About 80% of the gold used is used as a commercial metal, so, as the economy goes, so – with lag times, does gold.

    Remember, there was a three year lag back in 80, when gold prices peaked, and gold production peaked, three years later. Look at the charts, and you be the judge.

    There are a lot of fools who are looking at the spreads between physical bullion, and the gold ETFs. I never believed in the ETF’s, and think they are far too easily manipulated.

    To tie it back to your theme, by the way, this year, the US Dollar has outperformed gold!

    So, don’t confuse the Form of a store of value and exchange, with the Substance, of value creation.

    You are right about the permanent – at least, within our lifetimes – deflationary cycle – and you can spell deflationary as DEPRESSION.

    The talk of crack-ups will be proven true, but it will be very slow, with jarring discontinuities, as creative accounting can no longer mask the underlying Reality. Think of the UAW’s health care VEBA Trust. The UAW has NEVER disclosed what is in there. Want to bet it’s GM stock, which, even in the case of a prepacked Chapter 11, goes to zero?

    THAT is the kind of discontinuity that comes forward in deflationary times.

    Remember, a recession, historically, is a working off of excess business inventories, while a depression is a transformation of the entire financial system.

    And, above all, the crack-up shall be slow, and masked, as a transformation take place, and I think, at the end of the day, a major element of the transformation will be this:

    China, and other countries, will NOT call our notes, which would ruin “The Game” for one and all.

    I think China, in time, will purchase American properties for pennies on the dollar – like agricultural land, mineral land, etc. – in the functional equivalent of “debtor in possession” rights, which is how it works in bankruptcy restructuring.

    I have been working on an alternative history biography of the late Dr. Sam Francis, where, having lost his position because he told the truth about Jewish influence, crashed, and developed a Positive Theory of Race for the White people.

    He works his way through a lot of the essentially archaic systems that control us, and works to develop a new social system, and, in time, a new Nation, for White people.

    Yes, I’ve been reading Harold Covington!

    The issue is that many who are fleeing social collapse/Race War transformation make it to Kalispell, Montana, and are asked, “What can you do?”

    You see, the foundation of wealth is NOT any thing, because ANY THING can be taken from you.

    The foundation of wealth is the ability to make the world a better place by solving problems, and using the Talents given you by God.

    This implies you should enhance your value by enhancing your personal skills portfolio – learning welding, or electrical work, or whatever.

    THAT will be a store of value you will not outspend, and can not be manipulated in value, or taken from you.

    More to follow.

  49. Wolf on December 5th, 2008 11:50 pm

    As long as I can get my hour of cycling in per day, three session of strength training a week, eat my high fat, high protein, low carb diet, enjoy my favorite herb(s) and listen to my metal I’m happy because it makes me healthy, ripped and mellow. All the money in the world can’t compete with that.

  50. roscoe on December 6th, 2008 12:02 am

    You’re welcome maurice and CNN has a story on its site at this time about the Oboma birth cert. It was my impression that the Sups were going to say something today.

  51. Charles Martel on December 6th, 2008 1:53 am

    Thank you Stu. I was told to go to the Phora by several friends. I’m not going to bother with idiot exchanges.

    Because I know that no one at VOR or VNN are feds. I’ve been pissed off at them, but I said some stupid shit that I shouldn’t have said. So they banned me. Alex was right. I wasn’t thinking. I was just pissed off. So I harbor no ill will to my mentors.

    I’m just tired. So many other things to do. It’s hard working “our beliefs” into the mix when you are holding down multiple jobs.

    I know many have painted me as a real bastard, but you could not be further from the truth.

  52. Charles Martel on December 6th, 2008 1:58 am

    Peter,

    Can you do this for me? Interview Derrick MacThomas.

    You will find that our agreements GREATLY outway our differences!

    A defeated CM……

  53. Charles Martel on December 6th, 2008 4:03 am

    I got a whole months wages…

    (my) chances (are) on the outide….

    (I) havent’t seen it that much in ages….

    I got me a heavy bet (feel I’m gonna win!).

  54. Erko on December 6th, 2008 4:46 am

    With the possible exception of the defence of anonymity (with which I concur but which went on way too long), this show contributed nothing whatsoever to ‘overturning the status quo.’ It was a load of self-indulgent crap in which no useful information whatsoever was imparted. It was almost wholly devoted to petty squabbles and trivial issues of the sort that riddle every minor political movement. It’s just the sort of stuff gone over in this progam – stuff gone over in, I should say, tedious detail – that turns people off getting involved in politics. After listening to the better of this program (I listened to at least an hour of it before I couldn’t take anymore) I feel I need my head cleaned out so I can get back to doing some important stuff. At the moment, even mowing the lawn seems more important than anything discussed in this godawful program.

    By the way, because I also believe in the importance of web anonymity, my email address is not real.

  55. European on December 6th, 2008 6:11 am

    @Erko

    Amen to that. It is typical lunatic fringe behavior. They love that kind of stuff.

  56. katman on December 6th, 2008 12:31 pm
  57. roscoe on December 6th, 2008 1:11 pm

    v2 messycans are no different than katzmans.

  58. GEORGE WELLS on December 6th, 2008 3:30 pm

    2000 years of christian warfare within christendom, with probably millions killed as wells as the millions killed by christian missionary efforts to convert the heathen shows the intolerance of christianity and its adherents. This is factual. More proof needed? If so, I should reverse it and say, do you have proof that the sun shines? Christianity and the evil thereof is self-evident expect for the truly brainwashed.

    Just consult a good encyclopedia like Britannica, the true history of Christianity should be easily obtained by doing this.

    But then people tend to believe and seek info to confirm their prejudices. Why, because of a weak foundation upon which their lives are built. As Jesus said, build on rock not on sand or be swept away.

    The reason the catholic church restricted the reading of the bible was because the teachings of jesus were so contrary to the whole edifice of the church. Of course a few shining lights shone thru. The exception proves the rule.

    Religions are the tool of empire building!!!!! To have empire you need to unite people. To unite people you need a common dogma or ideology. People that are healthy don’t accept this, contrary to their own observation of the world, without being forced to do so.

    Christianity was forced upon the pagan world by the sword. The reason so few people align with a church today is because they tend to see the world thru their own eyes which is basically a pagan orientation. Yes, some christian could help you in your cause. But the common man today is more likely not to be christian except insofar as basic human values and morals align with so called christian values. If you can’t organize the common man and align with your cause how are you going to win?

    The reason the jews have so much influence in the world is because christianity’s origin is judiasm. The bible is their book. IF PEOPLE WANT TO OPPOSE THE JEWS, FOLLOWING CHRISTIANITY IS A DEAD END ROAD.

  59. New America on December 6th, 2008 4:29 pm

    in reply to George Wells:

    you wrote:

    2000 years of christian warfare within christendom, with probably millions killed as wells as the millions killed by christian missionary efforts to convert the heathen shows the intolerance of christianity and its adherents. This is factual. More proof needed? If so, I should reverse it and say, do you have proof that the sun shines? Christianity and the evil thereof is self-evident expect for the truly brainwashed.

    in reply:
    If “intolerance” with error is the price of being correct, then, yes, Christianity IS intolerant, and rightfully so.

    It’s when it became Feminized into JUDEO-Christianity that all of this “tolerance” nonsense came to the force.

    Why not replace “tolerance” with “excellence?”

    you wrote:

    Just consult a good encyclopedia like Britannica, the true history of Christianity should be easily obtained by doing this.

    in reply:
    Britannica is owned by, and edited by, Jews.

    You can guess which side of the story will be told.

    you wrote:

    But then people tend to believe and seek info to confirm their prejudices. Why, because of a weak foundation upon which their lives are built. As Jesus said, build on rock not on sand or be swept away.

    in reply:
    “Tend to,” and their ability to make changes is the test of intellectual and emotional maturity.

    you wrote:

    The reason the catholic church restricted the reading of the bible was because the teachings of jesus were so contrary to the whole edifice of the church. Of course a few shining lights shone thru. The exception proves the rule.

    in reply:
    This is true.

    There have been smokes” in the Vatican for some time; Vatican II just gave them Institutional power, and credibility.

    I suspect the Pope after Ratzinger will be last Pope of the Roman Catholic Corporation.

    you wrote:

    Religions are the tool of empire building!!!!! To have empire you need to unite people. To unite people you need a common dogma or ideology. People that are healthy don’t accept this, contrary to their own observation of the world, without being forced to do so.

    in reply:
    True.

    There is no better tool to build Empires with than a religion that supports the divinity of the rulers.

    MUCH cheaper, and MUCH more reliable, than soldiers.

    you wrote:

    Christianity was forced upon the pagan world by the sword. The reason so few people align with a church today is because they tend to see the world thru their own eyes which is basically a pagan orientation. Yes, some christian could help you in your cause. But the common man today is more likely not to be christian except insofar as basic human values and morals align with so called christian values. If you can’t organize the common man and align with your cause how are you going to win?

    in reply:
    Christianity also gained because the pagan world stopped developing; they were replaced by that which was still growing, and displaced the pagans from history.

    People, for the most part, go to churches as social clubs; no one pays attention to the Foundation of the church, the theology, which means the churches all tend to become Unitarian in all but name, over time.

    “Lukewarm,” at best.

    And, the “common man’s” values derive from Christian tenets, whether the knows it or not, whether he likes it or not.

    To the extent he goes contrary to the living spiritual Foundation of those tenets, to that extent will his “morality” become exclusively temporal in focus.

    I suspect we shall win because the uncommon situation will call forth the uncommon men, and they will see that what he have is the only system that WORKS, over time, in the defense of Family, and Civilization.

    Remember – we are after ONE PERCENT of the population.

    After that, it will accelerate dramatically, in our favor.

  60. K-Sensor on December 6th, 2008 4:37 pm

    Peter you’re perfecting your stance and it’s way above the standards and ability to succeed then any other that I’ve heard.

    Your thinking and logic is very similar to my own, so your message is a compliment in every way.

    So many people can advance from taking onboard your attitude and morals.

  61. GEORGE WELLS on December 6th, 2008 5:10 pm

    NEW AMERICA,

    Are you burning at the stake skills equal to your ideology? You could learn a few things from the jews. As Jesus said when he was hanging from the cross, “Father, forgive them for they know not what they do.”

    Its just an evil spirit that has the possession. Watch the movie “Fallen” /, with Denzel Washington about Azazel. It gives you an idea of what you’re dealing with within yourself.

  62. New America on December 6th, 2008 5:52 pm

    in reply to George Wells (2):

    you wrote:

    The reason the jews have so much influence in the world is because christianity’s origin is judiasm. The bible is their book. IF PEOPLE WANT TO OPPOSE THE JEWS, FOLLOWING CHRISTIANITY IS A DEAD END ROAD.

    in reply:
    No.

    Judaism is the EXACT opposite of Christianity.

    People tend to confuse Israel with Judaism, and ignore the foundations of the Israelite faith, which began with a restoration of the Egyptian religion, the Egyptian Trinity of the One God, and his Two Aspects, Male and Female – ISis, Ra, and El.

    You don’t think Abraham (a Brahmin?) came up with this stuff out of whole cloth, do you?

    Judaism developed when the tribe of Judah took on the faith and mystical practices of the Babylonians, during the Babylonian Captivity.

    Christianity’s precursor is in Zoroastrianism, read THEIR Holy Book, and see what it has to say about THEIR God, born of a Virgin, etc.

    ALL of these were precursors to the Incarnation, where Christ transformed the world, and all who would accept Him.

    Something New, and Something Wonderful.

    It is so Wonderful, that it is the ONLY religion the Jews work relentlessly to try to undermine, and destroy,

    Incidentally, Jews are very cool with paganism; they pose no threat to the Jews, at all.

    Quite the contrary.

  63. New America on December 6th, 2008 6:32 pm

    in reply to George Wells (3):

    you wrote:
    NEW AMERICA,

    Are you burning at the stake skills equal to your ideology?

    in reply:
    “Burning at the stake,” no.

    “Hoisiting on their own petard,” yes.

    you wrote:

    You could learn a few things from the jews. As Jesus said when he was hanging from the cross, “Father, forgive them for they know not what they do.”

    in reply:
    Well, we could ALL learn a lot of things from the Jews, and we should…

    While we can.

    Jesus told us to be “as wise as serpents, and as peaceful as doves.”

    “Serpents,” of course, are the symbols of Earth Consciousness, purely material Consciousness, which is exactly what is crystallized in Judaism.

    Remember, Jews have no concern for Christianity’s “Kingdom of Heaven.”

    The Jews intend to make a “Heaven” on Earth, and OF Earth, which requires the total control of all life on the planet by the Jews.

    And, as for Jesus saying “Forgive them, Father, for they know not what they do?”

    Note two things:

    One, Jesus was not in the forgiveness business. He was singularly intolerant, and NEVER forgave anyone.

    Two did His Father forgive them?

    I guess Jesus asked, and His Father declined.

    Father Knows Best.

    you wrote:

    Its just an evil spirit that has the possession. Watch the movie “Fallen” /, with Denzel Washington about Azazel. It gives you an idea of what you’re dealing with within yourself.

    in reply:
    Not just myself, but in the entire world.

    And, being aware of the power of the Adversary in the souls of Men allows us to be ever more grateful for the Deed of Christ, the transformation of the ultimate Evil – the murder of their God, their Messiah, and their Redeemer, into the eternal fullness of the Living Christ, who has steered (Western) Civilization calmly, quietly, and behind the scenes.

    Why is it that of all Races on the Earth, only the White Race, in the framework of Western Civilization, does not stagnate, but continue to develop ever further, as they turn to, and walk, “Toward The Stars.”

    Azrael has Competition, and the Competition won the battle over the future of Mankind two thousand years ago, when the Symbol of the material world was destroyed, and rebuilt – in three days.

  64. GEORGE WELLS on December 6th, 2008 9:54 pm

    Judaism is the EXACT opposite of Christianity.??????????????????????????? Is your Jesus the one mentioned in Matthew, Mark, Luke and John? Somehow he believed in the law given to Moses. Is that not Judiasm, the law given to Moses?

    Seems you’re a catholic, so tradition is more important than the word of God as spoken in the Bible. So what is your Christianity? Something Jesus preached or something made up by a number of men dressed like fairies?

    Maybe the protestants were all pagans and heretics. Seems you would approve of torturing the non-believers. It that not judiasm in action? How do you differ from the jews. The jews also believe what they do is justified in the name of god.

    Monotheistic religions always end, although the form of conversion may be different, by killing in the name of God.

    I call that barbaric. Eventually everyone must believe the party line or be executed.

    The battle ground has become somewhat secular today. But if you don’t believe the politically correct dogma today, the rewards of society are very limited to you. Today it is secular, yesterday it was religious. Don’t you see its the same devil’s game and you are working for him. Same game you just have not upgrades to the latest software version, so you are really out in left field.

    Being former mormon among others, they practice in Utah something called blood atonement. The idea was that by cutting the throats of those who stood in the way of the prophet, that person sacrificed would obtain a higher salvation in the world to come. Bizarre I would say but not to far removed from your belief.

    You need to repent and get on the rock of Christ – a sure foundation, not a church, not a religion!!!!

  65. roscoe on December 6th, 2008 10:54 pm

    Infallible Constitution of Ramon Catholic Church

    http://www.ewtn.com/library/COUNCILS/V1.HTM#4 and #6

  66. New America on December 6th, 2008 11:28 pm

    And they wonder why Christianity seems to succeed in spite of itself, rather than because of what it is.

    The answer is, as usual, people tend to remake God in their image.

    And they tend to get even THAT wrong, but that’s for another time.

    in painful reply to George Well:

    you wrote:

    Judaism is the EXACT opposite of Christianity.??????????????????????????? Is your Jesus the one mentioned in Matthew, Mark, Luke and John? Somehow he believed in the law given to Moses. Is that not Judiasm, the law given to Moses?

    in reply:
    Damn, this is painful.

    Christianity is seem in exactly FOUR books of the Bible; these are called The Gospels.

    The Book of Revelation describes Christianity as it WILL become, Lord willing, and the Christians get their act together.

    And that means getting away from Institutional Christianity, where men wearing dresses act like women wearing dresses, all to the glory of a de facto Unitarian Church, no matter what their formal organizational standard.

    And, no, Judaism is NOT “The Law” given to Moses.

    You might want to go to the christianseparatist website, and get their Anointed Standard New Testament.

    They have a very useful series of booklets dealing with many issues around religion, race, and nation.

    Incidentally, did you know the Talmud tells us that Jesus was a dark magician, a sorcerer, and today, is in a pit of boiling human waste, tormented by the demons who pretended to obey Him while he was on Earth?

    Now, HOW can you possibly reconcile Judaism with Christianity?

    you wrote:

    Seems you’re a catholic, so tradition is more important than the word of God as spoken in the Bible. So what is your Christianity? Something Jesus preached or something made up by a number of men dressed like fairies?

    in reply:
    One, “catholic” is a synonym for “universal.”

    Two, what “Bible” did Jesus preach from?

    The ONLY time Jesus reduced His words to writing, He did so in the sand, and even then, promptly erased them.

    I like the Christian Separatists Anointed Standard, thought.

    I like a LIVING relationship with a LIVING Savior even more.

    So should you.

    you wrote:

    Maybe the protestants were all pagans and heretics. Seems you would approve of torturing the non-believers. It that not judiasm in action? How do you differ from the jews. The jews also believe what they do is justified in the name of god.

    in reply:
    Everyone believes they are justified in the eyes of their God, as they SEE their God.

    There is no need to torture the nonbelievers.

    There is also no need for them to torture us, or even attack us, for simply believing differently than they do.

    you wrote:

    Monotheistic religions always end, although the form of conversion may be different, by killing in the name of God.

    in reply:
    I have discovered most monotheistic religions are really polytheistic religions in disguise.

    It’s just The God puts another God in charge of a situation.

    Can you imagine, from “…THE Beginning, a Word who was With God, and was A God?”

    Can you imagine such a thing?

    Can you imagine a God, who tells a people, “Thous Shalt Have No Gods BEFORE Me.”

    Why the word “BEFORE?”

    It’s seems much simpler to be a Monotheist, and state, “Thou Shalt Have No Other God.”

    Looks like a *ahem* “Council In Heaven!”

    you wrote:

    I call that barbaric. Eventually everyone must believe the party line or be executed.

    in reply:
    That is also true with Marx’s Religion of ETERNAL Revolution.

    No Gods before the State Central Committee, either!

    you wrote:

    The battle ground has become somewhat secular today. But if you don’t believe the politically correct dogma today, the rewards of society are very limited to you. Today it is secular, yesterday it was religious. Don’t you see its the same devil’s game and you are working for him. Same game you just have not upgrades to the latest software version, so you are really out in left field.

    in reply:
    The battle ground has ALWAYS been secular, so far as we can do anything about it.

    Who speaks for the Church, Rome, or Constantinople?

    you wrote:

    Being former mormon among others, they practice in Utah something called blood atonement. The idea was that by cutting the throats of those who stood in the way of the prophet, that person sacrificed would obtain a higher salvation in the world to come. Bizarre I would say but not to far removed from your belief.

    in reply:
    I suspect the Council of Fifty remains, but the Danites have had their day – for now, at any rate.

    I disapproved of the Danites, but they saw themselves as the Saints of Nauvoo did, and referred to the Old Testament concerning the importance of blood atonement.

    It is useful to look at the Old Testament in light of Race, by the way.

    Hence, blood atonement acquires a new meaning, almost a *ahem* “eugenic” meaning.

    you wrote:

    You need to repent and get on the rock of Christ – a sure foundation, not a church, not a religion!!!!

    in reply:
    And what religions did Christ Create?

    Why?

    Why is is that is the ONLY religion that works for the souls of Western Men, and works with them in the creation, and ever greater development, of Western Civilization?

    And why is it that ONLY the White Men, the Western Man, in the Culture of Western Civilization, creates and sustains the ONLY social order that does not stagnate?

  67. katman on December 7th, 2008 12:19 am

    http://flagspot.net/flags/rel-brdv.html

    branch davidians flew the star of david flag during the standoff

    interesting……..hmmm

    waco revistied…

    http://www.texemarrs.com/101999/bizdth.htm

    interesting theory

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5vSdqHT2Fwg

    as a texan, i watches this unfold and i kept asking myself, when are people going to go help them. most americans did nothing. i was ashamed of us then. but i had a job and i worked everyday and i was busy and i couldn’t help them. that was my excuse. besides, if i went, i might get arrested, etc. so they pushed the envelope that day, and we failed the test. i failed the test. texas looked real bad that day. i will never forget it. what will happen the next time this happens? and it will happen again………only a matter of time………

    http://www.freedomfiles.org/war/fema.htm

    is this what awaits those who dare to know?

  68. katman on December 7th, 2008 11:59 am

    Its Sunday morning. Time for a good sermon………..

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLxQ1gQnStA

  69. Wolf on December 7th, 2008 2:26 pm

    I like Tom Metzger but I have some serious criticisms.

    Tom listens to entirely too much left wing mainstream talk radio, he watches way too many Hollywood movies and he totally buys in to the whole “Arab terrorist did 911″ thing.

    That is disconcerting.

  70. Wolf on December 7th, 2008 2:30 pm

    As a result he believes in the Peak Oil/ Global Warming hoax. Two bogus theories perpetrated by the globalist Jews and brainwashed left wing Whites.

    I had hoped he was smarter than that. Disappointing to say the least.

    At lest he’s correct on the racial issue.

  71. katman on December 7th, 2008 2:35 pm

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7zUXt-tQ0s&NR=1

    fun with jews

    enjoy……….

  72. katman on December 7th, 2008 5:11 pm

    A conversation about economics with Nassim Taleb

    http://www.charlierose.com/view/interview/9713

    what is to happen, will happen quickly and will be much worse than the great depression………

  73. katman on December 7th, 2008 5:51 pm

    check it out zog…

    a australian converso looks at the jewish roots of the ruling families of early europe and how they embraced catholicism to hide their jewishness…….here he describes himself. i think this speaks volumes about what i have been trying to say around here for a long time. the jew thinks that catholicism merely is another step in his journey as a jew.. so i ask you. how can a jew feel confortable being a catholic, if indeed a catholic is supposedly a Christian belief system. how indeed? let us remember it was Christ, whom the jews hated and despised and murdered.? when a jew becomes a catholic, what is he giving up? his jewishness? not according to what the jews think. therefore, then what is catholicism, except a expanded form of judaism to fool the sheep.

    “I am a Catholic Jew of Australian Anglo-Jewish ancestry. I am a graduate of the University of Western Australia and the Australian Catholic University. I write primarily for other Catholic Jews and do not write for proselytising purposes towards religious Jews. I believe in Torah and mitzvot as given to Moshe Rabbenu on Har Sinai and their eternal value firstly for the Jew and then the whole world. I do not hold with antinomianism or replacement theology. I am loyal to the infallible teachings of the Catholic Church and obedient to the Pope. My ideas are my own and do not neccessarily represent the Association of Hebrew Catholics or any other organisation. My main interest is in the mystical traditions of Judaism and Catholicism”.

    http://miriamhakedosha.blogspot.com/2008/02/jewish-dynasty-of-makhiri.html

  74. roscoe on December 7th, 2008 7:29 pm

    This rambling diatribe only shows that some judaics converted to Catholicism.

    When You Attack The Catholic Church, You Are Doing The Work Of The Judaic– Peter Schaenk

  75. New America on December 7th, 2008 7:31 pm

    in reply to katman:

    you wrote:

    A conversation about economics with Nassim Taleb

    http://www.charlierose.com/view/interview/9713

    what is to happen, will happen quickly and will be much worse than the great depression………

    in reply:
    Remember this:

    Not ONE economic forecaster has been right over any extended period of time.

    Not ONE.

    Jim Rogers says, “I’m the world’s worst market timer, I only follow the trend.”

    The Trend can change precipitously – “Black Swans” can appear in, say, oil, which went from 140, very recently, to, well, there is a spot market calling for 30 in February.

    I suspect this is a combination of mark to market, and economic warfare against Russia and Venezuela, but still, a lot of the alternative energy investments suddenly seem rather poor, don’t they?

    I see Taleb’s most essential point as this:

    “Everyone” was measuring hte wrong thing, the wrong way, and all of this will merge with a series of cascading cross-defaults into a ‘collapse’ of the status quo economically.”

    Now, let’s go back and see how a Transformation approach deals with this:

    One, the wrong measuring tools – corrected by the adoption of Financial XML.

    Two, measuring the wrong things – taking the new data offered by Financial XML, and making informed decisions, while recognizing the contemporary accounting is used to mask the truth more often than it is to reveal it, particularly in the case of pension fund valuations. (Yes, the UAW is screwed; probably PBGC for their pensions, and Medicare/Blue Cross for their health plans. And those are the lucky ones.)

    Three, the most powerful force in human affairs is this – on average, everything is trying to be average. Eventually, the long term trend line will come forth, absent dramatic exogenous change.

    This means, for example, that the days of putting your money in the stock market and getting 6% compounded annually are OVER.

    Four, discontinuities will appear as the System marks assets to their true economic values. This might take a decade.

    Financial XML goes a long way to transforming this into a much more honest financial system, and people will only invest again when they can trust the measurements.

  76. New America on December 7th, 2008 7:37 pm

    Oh, by the way, for all of you who follow someone else’s economic thinking, think again.

    If memory serves, just as gold did worse than the dollar THIS YEAR, so has Warren Buffet not equaled the S&P since 2000.

    And you can not eat gold.

    The Patriotards work themselves into a peculiar state of mind:

    One the one hand, they think they will have gold, and herbal tea, and water filters, and will run the world.

    On the other hand, everything they have they can only use ONCE.

    That is, assuming it is not taken from them.

    Essentially, they want to live in a past that never was, rather than face the pain that accompanies growth in building a new future, and laying the Living Foundation for a new nation, starting where they are.

    Losers.

  77. maurice on December 7th, 2008 7:43 pm

    When You Attack The Catholic Church, You Are Doing The Work Of The Judaic– Peter Schaenk

    This is their purpose here, Roscoe, Divide Et Impera. They are enemies of Peter’s message. This comments board is infested. But they say this is “free speech”, no?…

  78. roscoe on December 7th, 2008 7:53 pm

    Jewish Princedom in Feudal France by Zuckerman is the book used by Springmeier( and presumably Dan Brown and Baigent, Lincoln[ nee Soskin] and Leigh) to come up with the Merovingian Conspiracy Theory. Shankus has debunked that a long time ago.

  79. roscoe on December 7th, 2008 7:55 pm

    Extra Ecclesiam Nulla Salus

  80. katman on December 7th, 2008 9:35 pm

    http://www.reuters.com/article/marketsNews/idUSN0746551320081207

    praying for suv’s.

    beam me up scottie……..:)

  81. Howdy Doody on December 7th, 2008 10:09 pm

    Joos are the best source of news on Joos. They are so preoccupied with themselves, they cannot help introspection to the nth degree. They also like to gloat. So, articles by jews themselves are helpful when dealing with the typical kwan ‘christian zionist’.

    Consider Talmudic writings and the article itself and how well they jibe. They simply show jews being jews. Nothing really special here other than jews admitting to putting their Talmudic philosophy into practice.

    Consider:

    Quote:
    The Israeli, any Israeli, has become an icon of evilness, ugliness, corruption and exploitation. There is no use searching for ways to change the behavior of Israelis abroad. This is a lost cause.

    This has happened for centuries. No, there is no change. This behavior is the CULTURAL NORM for jews.

    Quote:
    hostile towards foreigners in general and feels obligated to cheat them whenever he can (empty the open buffet; sneak six people into a double room at night so as not to come out “a sucker.”)

    “A Jew is permitted to rape, cheat and perjure himself; but he must take care that he is not found out, so that Israel may not suffer.” -Schulchan Aruch, Jore Dia

    “A Jew may rob a goy – that is,.he may cheat him in a bill, if unlikely to be perceived by him.” -Schalchan Arach, Choszen Hamiszpat 348

    “How to interpret the word ‘robbery.’ A goy is forbidden to steal, rob, or take women slaves, etc., from a goy or from a Jew. But a Jew is NOT forbidden to do all this to a goy.” -Tosefta, Qbda Zara VIRZ, 5

    “And you, angry and brutish people, vile and vulgar men, slaves worthy of the yoke [Talmudism] which you bear … Go, take back your books and remove yourselves from me. (LA MOISADE)
    [The Talmud] taught the Jews to steal the goods of Christians, to regard them as savage beasts, to push them over the precipice … to kill them with impunity and to utter every morning the most horrible imprecations against them. (JUIFS)
    -DIDEROT, DENIS

    Quote:
    He takes over drug and women trafficking hubs just for the sense of power and bullying.

  82. Z.O.G. on December 7th, 2008 10:53 pm

    New America,

    What do you think of the ‘backwardation’ in the gold and silver market? This is an unprecedented thing. It happened on December 2, and continued for a couple of days. Certainly this means something. This is also tied in with the current disconnect between the physical gold/silver market and the paper gold/silver market, i.e. the inability to purchase physical silver or gold without paying a huge premium over the current spot price.

  83. New America on December 8th, 2008 12:36 am

    in reply to Z.O.G.

    you wrote:

    What do you think of the ‘backwardation’ in the gold and silver market? This is an unprecedented thing. It happened on December 2, and continued for a couple of days. Certainly this means something. This is also tied in with the current disconnect between the physical gold/silver market and the paper gold/silver market, i.e. the inability to purchase physical silver or gold without paying a huge premium over the current spot price.

    in reply:
    One, I’ve done all in my power to stay away from the damn gold people, but, in this case, I’ll make an exception.

    Two, the damn gold people are engaged in CREATIVE MARKETING.

    God, “backwardzation” sounds like something out of Amos and Andy!

    The term I would use is negative forward carry rate, which simply the cost to carry for that period. It is usually something like the spread- the difference – between some index of investment value that is very liquid, and the forward rate for gold. When the index rate drops belong the forward rate, you create a negative rate.

    That’s all.

    The market will correct something like this in about a day or so, because it’s a sign of something going out of whack, and it can’t be allowed to grow. Think of the one and two month negative Treasury yields I referred to.

    This “backwardization” – damn, that sounds like some dance at the Mystic Knights of teh Sea ballroom! – is simply the Creative Marketing guys who SELL gold, who think your mind is full of “backwardization,” and thus, YOU are full of “backwardization!”

    God, you can almost see a commercial by Amos and Andy:

    “Brothers! Don’t be no backwardizaton, and don’t do no backwardization! Listen to Peter Schaenk, and move with forwardization!”

    I need a break.

    Stay AWAY from gold.

    Hell, if it’s so damn valuable, why do they want to sell it to you?

  84. New America on December 8th, 2008 12:59 am

    in further reply to Z.O.G.:

    This “backwardization” thing must mean they are hitting the bottom of the barrel; Hell, I’ve seen more sophistication on Patriotard broadcasters.

    Wait….

    No, I haven’t.

    But this comes close.

    Hell, I expect to tune into a Patriotard broadcaster, and hear something like this:

    “Hello, friends, it’s me again with some exciting news ONLY for Patriots who want real value at a great price, while serving Patriotic organizations that you know and love.

    We’ve just got a rare set of special, VERY rare, backwardization gold bars, at a very special price. Because we deal with the best brokers, they gave us the best possible price for these irreplacable, mint-condition, special edition backwardization gold bars.

    But, it gets EVEN better.

    For those who’ve purchased from us in the past, as a special “thank you” to our loyal customers who support this great nation, we have a very few, special backwardization solid gold bullion coins, each stamped with the engraved face of almost-President Obama, in honor of his Inauguration, as prophesied in some book, somewhere.

    Each and every solid gold bullion backwardization Obama Inauguration Com,memoration coin is guaranteed by us to be a lifetime heirloom you will proudly pass down to your children, and their children.

    And, we’ll throw in a free – at absolutely no cost to you, other than a nominal shipping and handling fee – all of the damn organic coffee and tea you can handle, because we can’t even give this crap away, except to people who are dumb enough to buy backwardization bullion we love to support our partners in patriotism.

    Call now, and God Bless America!”

  85. New America on December 8th, 2008 1:04 am

    in further reply to Z.O.G.

    Look.

    When there is a CALCULATE function key on the Bloomberg terminals for “backwardization,” THEN I’ll take it seriously.

  86. K-Sensor on December 8th, 2008 5:39 pm

    I recommend listening to Daryl Bradford Smiths latest shows, “Monday 8th December CII with guest Andrew Carrington Hitchcock ”

    The race issue is brought up.

    http://www.iamthewitness.com/audio/Andrew.Carrington.Hitchcock/CIIsmith-Hitchcock%20dec%208%2008%20pt1.mp3
    http://www.iamthewitness.com/audio/Andrew.Carrington.Hitchcock/CIIsmith-Hitchcock%20dec%208%2008%20pt2.mp3

  87. K-Sensor on December 8th, 2008 8:59 pm
  88. katman on December 9th, 2008 7:11 pm

    http://www.jackbloodforum.com/phpBB3/download/file.php?id=1016

    here you go peter. mookie’s latest nickname is……the tick…..

    ha ha ha

    peter, you were talking about the problem of egos in the tard movement………?

    unbelievable. man you have to listen to this rant……it has some juicy stuff for your mookie bump bits…….

    i think many of the tards are starting to realize mookie just doesn’t cut it……

  89. Howdy Doody on December 9th, 2008 10:54 pm

    Derrick MacThomas IMO proved he is a tard or false flag by promoting him as anything real etc. Of course tough talking MacThomas could just be naive or stupid IMO, who knows? I know this I don’t l bother to hear his show anymore.

  90. Peter Schaenk on December 9th, 2008 11:47 pm

    Hey Wells,

    In your pedantic rage, you forgot to answer the original question I posed:

    What proof do you have to support the following statement:

    “The so called pagan world was much more respectful to others and far less cruel than what we have seen under a Christian overlordship for the past two thousand years.”

    You spouted off your Anti-Christ jibberish, but what about the statement re the pagan world being more respectful to others…etc.?

    I’m still waiting…

  91. GEORGE WELLS on December 13th, 2008 8:10 pm

    I’ve sent you the proof privately. And. well, as we all know a person requires very little proof to confirm his own beliefs but an infinite proof to counter his beliefs. so i doubt that you can be objective in evaluating any evidence.

    I take issue with your demeaning use of language as well as your misrepresentation of what I said.

    When you say “Anti-Christ jibberish” you misrepresent. Anti-Christian, yes, which relates to a religion which has little to do with Jesus of Nazareth. It has nothing to do with Jesus. I doubt very much that you have spent much time actually reading the word as found in scripture. What have you based your religious attitudes upon: the word of god or the words of priests?

    Jesus reminded us to beware of those who come in his name. BEWARE, BEWARE, BEWARE. And you call me Antichrist?

    I’m always amazed at how “christians” call others names over issues or doctrines of faith. Believe me, everything you represent is sectarian, beliefs based at best on part of the written word.

    You are taking us back 500-600 years to re-fight battles over personal freedom which some of us won thru the reformation. You want to re-fight those battles again today. the reformation was a war against jews who had overtaken the catholic church from within.

    How could we ever fight the jews today when you have taken us back 500 years to fight over personal freedom again?

    The mindset you hold is just as dangerous to us as talmudism.
    I’m glad I have disturbed you inner peace or made you message board more interesting.

  92. Moral Order on December 13th, 2008 8:47 pm

    roscoe on December 7th, 2008 7:29 pm

    This rambling diatribe only shows that some judaics converted to Catholicism.

    When You Attack The Catholic Church, You Are Doing The Work Of The Judaic– Peter Schaenk

    maurice on December 7th, 2008 7:43 pm

    When You Attack The Catholic Church, You Are Doing The Work Of The Judaic– Peter Schaenk

    This is their purpose here, Roscoe, Divide Et Impera. They are enemies of Peter’s message. This comments board is infested. But they say this is “free speech”, no?…

    Funny isn’t how the Romanists feel they can torture murder and pervert in the name of Mother Church yet the slightest criticism brings them to tears?

    Catholics are more than capable of the most appaling sectarianism, go see Northern Ireland for an example, where the Protestants could teach the Papists nothing about violence.

    Until Papists recognise that they are as wicked and sinful as any Protestant when they are sectarian, they do the job of the Jew, in running a divide and conquer game.

    I could quote you all the Bible passages that show. the Pope to be antichrist; or that the RC Church is merely the reqorking of the pagan roman, Egyptian and Babylonian false gods.

    But I don’t because there is no value. God will judge, not you or indeed any other man or woman, even the Pope who is mere mortal and thus himself inured in original sin. .

    The average Roman Catholic ‘Traditionalist’ can often behave as wickedly as any Bovine Hating Talmudist, and would happily slobber over a Muslim grasping a Koran (who rejects absolutely Christian dogma – such as Virgin Birth, the Divinity of Jesus Christ etc) than work with a fellow WHITE Protestant man or woman. I will work with any true believing God fearing White man; Catholic or Protestant or Orthodox.

    Matthew 7:1-5 Douay Rheims Bible
    Judge not, that you may not be judged. (2) For with what judgment you judge, you shall be judged: and with what measure you mete, it shall be measured to you again. (3) And why seest thou the mote that is in thy brother’s eye; and seest not the beam that is in thy own eye? (4) Or how sayest thou to thy brother: Let me cast the mote out of thy eye; and behold a beam is in thy own eye? (5) Thou hypocrite, cast out first the beam out of thy own eye, and then shalt thou see to cast out the mote out of thy brother’s eye.

    “Oy vey” said Solomon to Abraham, “these trad Catholics are such goooood little puppies”. “Poor Peter, he does the show every week and the trad Catholics run round undoing all the good! They are able, with a few ill chosen words, to wreck all the good that Shaenk does!”

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