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Dietrich and Mishko, 11/28/2008

November 29, 2008

This Week in Disorganized America: Obama’s Kosher Kabinet, government and your money, the Mumbai bombings, and this guy:

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85 Responses to “Dietrich and Mishko, 11/28/2008”

  1. Reck,Less:Abandon on November 29th, 2008 1:31 am

    Awesome show guys! Thank you, thank you, thank you….. That’s peckerwood 4, Happy belated ThanksGiving to you, and all of our brother’s and sister’s on this GREAT NETWORK!
    Love, Reckonable, Less;Abandon

  2. Mishko Novosel on November 29th, 2008 12:57 pm

    To Goldberg,

    I guess if suffering means trying to destroy the white race through lies and deceit, then yes, you’ve suffered enough… ; )

  3. Wolf on November 29th, 2008 1:14 pm

    So, according to Deitrick, Alex Linder is paranoid, disingenuous, in it for the money, and possibly a front for the SPLC?

    Nice, very nice.

  4. Mishko Novosel on November 29th, 2008 1:45 pm

    Goldberg,

    You’re funny. Instead of money, how about all of the jews in media, academia, politics and finance all relinquish their positions and THEY go to Israel and never return.

    I’ll quit when that happens, seems fair enough.

  5. Mishko Novosel on November 29th, 2008 2:29 pm

    First off, we do not HATE jews, we just discuss and bring to light what jews do that the MSM, which they own, won’t ever mention. As far as your challenge, I’ve got everything to loose, what do you have too loose, never bothering this site again? Your not bothering me, or anyone else for that matter, but I would love to hear you refute anything we’ve said versus constantly pushing the old, but affective lies about your suffering, and begging us to stop telling the truth.

    How about this, you come on a show and refute anything we’ve ever said. Actually I’ll make you a deal, you come on to a show and PROVE without a doubt, the Holocaust happened and I’ll never get on the air again, now how’s that for a deal?

  6. Wolf on November 29th, 2008 2:43 pm

    What’s there to love about the Jews? Their spying? Their pornography? Their hatred of Christianity? Their financial swindling? Their sneak attacks and false flag operations? Their lobbying for wars against their enemies in the middle east? Their Holohoax shakedown racket? Their hate speech laws?

    Furthermore what’s wrong with Hate? I hate the Jews like I hate brussels sprouts or doing the dishes, only more so.

  7. Mishko Novosel on November 29th, 2008 4:31 pm

    Goldberg, you were here, then you left when I mentioned you should actually debate a position. If your a jew and you’re a proud jew there’s nothing wrong with that, but please take a position that you can debate that actually shows jews in a positive light.

    Actions speak louder than words…. Jewish actions are truly hateful, but their words demands tolerance. Do you see the hypocrisy?

    You do have a free forum here, but do you have leg to stand on?

  8. Mishko Novosel on November 29th, 2008 5:50 pm

    Goldberg, pretending to be a jew is now funny is it? I was acting like WHITE MAN, and was responded according. I was being cordial and nice, and I took you for face value, and now all of a sudden you’re saying you LIED. But back to the issue, just how did you fool me? You acted like jew, you lied and tried to deceived me, and I responded like a white man, offered you an opportunity to make your point, and you’re trying to back out.

    You might not a be a jew, but you are barking up the wrong tree . Again, come on to a show. You won’t get muted and will be given the courtesy that most jews don’t give us…. We’re better than that….

  9. Z.O.G. on November 29th, 2008 6:20 pm

    Mishko,

    It was obvious that the guy ‘Goldberg’ was just doing a stereotype caricature of a typical Jew and just joking around. You couldn’t see that? Oh, man.

  10. Mishko Novosel on November 29th, 2008 6:39 pm

    ZOG, I take things VERY seriously these days. The time for caricatures is really over. Do you have something constructive to say, or are you going to be a parrot? It was just a JOKE YOU DIDN’T GET… Well you can take your jokes and shove them up your ass. That was kinda funny, but I wasn’t joking. Ya feel me….

  11. Z.O.G. on November 29th, 2008 6:43 pm

    Peter Schaenk’s name is a fake stage name?

    WTF?

    What the hell is his real name? I want to know. And I’m sure everybody else wants to know also.

  12. Z.O.G. on November 29th, 2008 6:44 pm

    No wonder I couldn’t find any pictures of “Peter Schaenk” using Google images. “Peter Schaenk” doesn’t exist! LOL ;-)

  13. Z.O.G. on November 29th, 2008 6:44 pm

    Mishko, did you see my list of Obama’s Jewish handlers and White House appointments?

  14. Peter Schaenk on November 29th, 2008 7:07 pm

    And ZOG does exist??? How about your real name, address and ATM PIN number?

  15. Stu Gavin on November 29th, 2008 7:14 pm

    With the eccentric spelling “Schaenk”? Unnecessary and pompous.

  16. Mishko Novosel on November 29th, 2008 8:12 pm

    Peter, there is a good percentage of comments that tend to be from jews or crypto jews. They think they are beating us down emotionally by their non-logical comments. However,I really do find them helpful because they remind me what I’m fighting for.

    And yes ZOG I saw your list but I made mine yesterday and if you listened to the show you would have known that.

    Peter also keep in mind, we are extremely allowing when it comes to posts, but it’s not beneath us to start banning IP addresses. God knows, they do it to the truth 24/7, we should return the favor.

    BTW – When your IP gets banned please don’t email me asking why.

  17. Z.O.G. on November 29th, 2008 9:34 pm

    Mishko, I made my list before you made yours. ;-)

    Peter, I didn’t mean that YOU didn’t exist. I just meant that your stage name, your “persona”, didn’t exist. I was just kidding around. Obviously I love what you are doing here on VOR, especially exposing Mookie for the Jew-protecting fraud that he is.

    If Mookie does spread false rumors about you to your business and professional contacts at some point in the future, then I hope you take him to civil court in a libel/slander lawsuit and get him for every cent that he is worth. Did he really leave you a voice-mail message threatening to do that? Is he really that stupid? He had to know that you could just save the recording and use it against him later. I guess his arrogance and hubris has overtaken him and made him ignore his better judgment.

    Oh well, he’s even more of a scumbag than I thought, a total P.O.S. Hey, isn’t what Mookie threatened to do exactly what the Jews at the ADL and SPLC do? Isn’t that their M.O.? Aren’t they constantly engaged in some campaign to ruin certain people’s professional careers(e.g. Kevin MacDonald) by slandering and libeling them to their co-workers and colleagues as “anti-Semites,” “racists” and “haters”? So isn’t Mookie in fact using a page taken straight from the Jews’ own playbook?

    Whatever you do, don’t lose the recording of that voice-mail he left you. And even if he never does follow through on his threats, I would still LOVE to hear that voice-mail recording at some point, and I’m sure everybody else here would too. hehe :-)

    I’m telling you, Peter, this guy Mookie is married to a Jewish “woman”, has two children with her, and may even be partially Jewish himself. I wouldn’t be surprised at all if he is.

  18. Mishko Novosel on November 29th, 2008 9:46 pm

    ZOG, I heard the Voice Mail the NEXT DAY, and it is Alex Jones, and yes he’s running his mouth and threatening Peter. Unlike Alex we would never do something like. If we had a REAL issue we’d say it to his face, end of story. Yes we know his wife is a jew, and that’s why he’s been quiet about zionism for the past ummmm 10 years, this is old news.

    I will say this, Alex serves a purpose. He’s like High School to people that are willing to open up their mind, and we are like grad school. The truth really needs to be taken in steps and everything serves a purpose, but the individual is the person that has to take the next step, unless they’re willing, we can’t force them to see the truth.

  19. Stu Gavin on November 30th, 2008 12:06 am

    The personal attack Dietrich made against Alex Linder at the end of this show is the most disgusting act of betrayal in the history of White Nationalism. To suggest that VNN is a covert FED operation is simply appaling. Where’s the evidence of this? Name me a single FED who Alex is allowing to have access to VNN? NAME ONE

  20. Wolf on November 30th, 2008 12:56 am

    Agreed.

    Dietrich should be ashamed of himself.

    First, his weak commentary about the Jewish question at best pales in comparison with the insight and depth of Alex’s analysis.

    Second, at the very least Alex was too kind when he accused Dietrich of being a back-stabber. That is all too clear. I would add that he’s also a self-aggrandizing pompous ass.

    Finally, Dietrich has some nerve seeking sympathy for going to school for ever and ever it seems, in hopes of obtaining a kosher PhD in who knows what so he can get high paying job. Puh-lease! Like he’s the only person who’s ever been a struggling student. His sense of self importance is sickening.

  21. Z.O.G. on November 30th, 2008 1:26 am

    Oh, man, I gotta hear that Mookie voice-mail! I feel like a little kid on Christmas eve. hehe :-)

  22. Z.O.G. on November 30th, 2008 1:27 am

    Mishko, did Mookie use his fake Texas tough guy radio voice in the voice-mail, or did he use his “inside voice”? LOL :-)

  23. Howdy Doody on November 30th, 2008 1:45 am

    Mookie is a 1000% POS !

    Mookie is a not a stepping stone for sheeple, but a dark dead ended tunnel IMO.

    Derrick Mac Thomas says he can’t find a way to do a show any where else when I ask him to try here in a PM, but guess what he came out about a month ago saying good things about Mookie.

    He got alot mail on that and has not replied.

  24. New America on November 30th, 2008 2:18 am

    in reply to Stu Gavin:

    you wrote:

    The personal attack Dietrich made against Alex Linder at the end of this show is the most disgusting act of betrayal in the history of White Nationalism.

    in reply:
    “THE most disgusting…?”

    No, Hell, since when has speaking the truth ever been betrayal?

    you wrote:

    To suggest that VNN is a covert FED operation is simply appaling. Where’s the evidence of this? Name me a single FED who Alex is allowing to have access to VNN? NAME ONE

    in reply:
    That was NOT what was said.

    What was said was, in effect, you should act AS IF everything going to VNN was virtually mainlined to other organizations, and I can understand that.

    I can speak with some authoriity on this situation, and why VOR is so important.

    Some little while back, it transpired that the wife of a prominent member of the White Nationalist community was acting as THE Administrator on VNN Forum, a position that gives one the power to harvest IP addresses.

    There was an amazing sense of horror at this, based on various perceptions of various parties.

    This was developed by people on VNN, including OTPTT, who wrote some amazing questions around certain events involving this person.

    If you will listen to the VNN FTL shows where Dietrich discusses this, your heart will break as Dietrich tries to explain what has happened, and why it does not work at all to fulfill VNN’s STATED goals.

    Eventually, Linder relented, but, as we all know, things can change pretty quickly in politics.

    I like to think that I did all manner of Good Things for VNN; I offered lots of helpful, productive ideas, and useful commentary.

    I was also just about the only person who defended Alex during what was called Porngate. I think that was the time Geoff Beck left, and I suspect other really good people said, “Something WRONG here.”

    Then, the arrest, incarceration, and release of Kevin Alfred Strom became the topic of a series of threads dealing with Kevin Alfred Strom.

    In one of those threads, I did an analysis of Movement Past, and why it has been such a spectacular failure; all the while, my position concerning Kevin Alfred Strom was this:

    One, he had done much good for us, as a Race, while writing and producing the American Dissident Voices everyone so worships Sky God Pierce for, and he had done an awful lot, that was behind the scenes.

    Two, given the Creative nature of Kevin Alred Strom’s unique Talents, marriage and fatherhood really does not seem to suit him.

    Three, when he would be released to Society, Kevin Alfred Strom would have been thoroughly vetted by a wall of professional psychiatrists, psychologists, clinical social workers, Federal parole agents, AND would be the most supervised man in America outside of a Federal Supermax.

    In short, if the Federal judiciary, and its professional mental health staff, felt Kevin Alfred Strom could be returned to Society under supervision, then that was good enough for me.

    I am NOT asking Kevin Alfred Strom to be my friend; I’ve never met him, and I never will.

    I am simply stating my belief that, if the Federal judiciary, fully advised by their mental health and law enforcement staff, feel Kevin Alfred Strom should be returned to Society, then that is IT.

    MY concern was that Kevin Alfred Strom, unburdened by inappropriate relationships, could use his Talents as a Selfless Servant of the Race.

    For this belief, I was banned from VNN.

    Fine.

    I noticed something.

    Looking at Movement Past is like looking at a high school cafeteria, with all manner of cliques in play.

    With precious few exceptions, it seems to me, very few, if any of them, grew up, and made it to Adult Individuation.

    THAT ties in with a comment Briseis made on VNN FTL some time back that has always bothered me; “Why is it that our Movement Cause attracts young men who are so inept as Men, in general, and Adult Men, in particular?”

    I addressed this, in part, in one of the Kevin Alfred Strom threads on VNN; it is singularly important.

    For the most part, the people who left either were TOO juvenile – not enough action for their adrenaline – or TOO Adult, and had outgrown the playpen that VNN, in general, and VNN Forum, in particular, had become.

    That’s what makes VOR so important.

    The Adults, who learned the hard way how important the White Race was – and IS – needed some sort of organizing system for The Next Step in the development of the White Nationalist/Western Nationalist Movement (WN2/M).

    Harold Covington said it best:

    We have the opportunity to lay the Foundation, in our lives, to be in on the founding of a new nation, based explicitly on White RACIAL Separation, and developing organically out of the Northwest of America As It Is.

    THAT is a Goal big enough for all of us.

    Look at our best people, and they speak in the largest of abstract Ideas – Peter Schanek, on Western Civilization, Geoff Beck on Racial conflicts and the resolution of them, and even Terrible Tommy Metzger, who sees things in a MUCH different light than he did years ago.

    What Covington’s Northwest Republic Analytical Model, Peter Schaenk’s Commentaries, Metzger’s New Focus, and the Ideas of many people I have not mentioned but are part and parcel of VOR, is this:

    EVERYONE ELSE IS STILL FIGHTING THE BATTLES OF YESTERDAY, AND THOSE BATTLES ARE OVER!

    VOR is looking to the Future, a Future we – WE! – have a choice in Creating, for our Family, our Posterity, and our Race!

    Everyone at VOR has paid a price for their beliefs, some more than others, but all, one way, or another.

    I used to listen to all of the people I called Team Ragnarok on VNN and other WN Forums, and thought to myself, “Yes, everyone wants to walk at the head of the torchlight parade, and no one wants to do ANY of the work needed to GET TO the torchlight parade.”

    Hell, for all of the worship of Sky God William Pierce, I note that his superior in courage was April Gaede, who “took the Gap” with little more than hope, and faith.

    But, you know, going to the lunchroom clique “Leaders” and telling them that April Gaede – a GIRL, in their eyes – had more courage, and more faith, in building a better Future for our Race than they ever had, or ever will have, would simply shame them by revealing them to be Children, in the bodies of Adults.

    That’s VOR – Building the Better Future, By Purposefully LOOKING To The Future.

    Thanks for all you do!

  25. Wolf on November 30th, 2008 2:26 am

    New America is a long winded blowhard who defends paedophile perverts. We all heard Dietrich accuse VNN and Alex of being a front for the SPLC and no amount of hot air from New America will change that fact.

    Your pontificating on “the movement past has grown tiresome as has your endless and pointless posts.

  26. New America on November 30th, 2008 2:40 am

    in reply to Wolf:

    you wrote:

    New America is a long winded blowhard who defends paedophile perverts. We all heard Dietrich accuse VNN and Alex of being a front for the SPLC and no amount of hot air from New America will change that fact.

    in reply:
    One, if I’m a “long winded blowhard,” it’s becaause the issues can not be solved by the prescriptions of the “SHORT winded blowhards.”

    I use exactly as many words as I need; no more, and no less.

    Two, the accusation that I “defend paedophile perverts,” falls far short of the truth.

    My defense of Kevin Alfred Strom is supported by, and consistent with, the rulings of the Federal Judiciary, supported by teams of mental health professionals, and law enforcement professionals.

    My support of Kevin Alfred Strom achieving his potential as a selfless Servant of the Race is consistent with my Christian belief that we can transform our Demons into Servant Angels.

    Three, and of greater importance, Dietrich did not “accuse” VNN and Alex Linder as being fronts for “the SPLC.”

    Listen carefully to his exact words.

    Given who he had as the Administrator of his Forum in the past, frankly, I suspect the SPLC would be the least of our worries.

    you wrote:

    Your pontificating on “the movement past has grown tiresome as has your endless and pointless posts.

    in reply:
    The problem is, dar too many people seems to take “Movement Past” as the benchmark for excellence in Service to the Race.

    In fact, with few exceptions – Pierce, Rockwell, Covington, and a very few Others – Movement Past failed on almost all possible points, and NO ONE seems to want to know why, if only so we can not repeat the same mistakes.

    In good part, Briseis correctly defined the symptoms, but no one has explicitly defined the disease, and the closest we have come to a cure if the Northwest Republic Analytical Model of Harold Covington.

    Note, by the way, that Covington’s Model fits in perfectly with Peter Schaenk’s “Christian Civilization IS Western Civilization IS Civilization” model.

    So much the better!

  27. Stu Gavin on November 30th, 2008 3:25 am

    The digs Dietrich took against Linder for being unemployed were lame. Who cares if he doesn’t work? All of us are only paying taxes to ZOG anyway but Dietrich acts like having a job serves some higher purpose.

  28. Reck,Less:Abandon on November 30th, 2008 3:28 am

    in reply:
    “THE most disgusting…?”

    No, Hell, since when has speaking the truth ever been betrayal?

    Well something really struck a nerve with me, when Mishko Novosel stated one such host has X amount of children and there ages…..
    And, he(Mishko Novosel) deletes the/his(Mishko Novosel) post’s,(namely) the one with his email address and phone number in it.

  29. Stu Gavin on November 30th, 2008 3:41 am

    According to Dietrich, Alex Linder should get a job digging ditches! With chron’s disease? Chron’s disease means that he’s taking 15-20 bowel movements a day! And Dietrich thinks that employment is so easy to handle in that condition. You are a real SOB Dietrich, you back-stabbed the one who gave you everything. It was Linder who made you a star and now you spit in his face!

    You should be ashamed of what you’ve done.

  30. New America on November 30th, 2008 4:08 am

    in reply to Stu Gavin:

    you wrote:

    According to Dietrich, Alex Linder should get a job digging ditches! With chron’s disease? Chron’s disease means that he’s taking 15-20 bowel movements a day! And Dietrich thinks that employment is so easy to handle in that condition.

    in reply:
    That is NOT what Dietrich said.

    What he said is clear, and clearly articulated – just listen to his exact words.

    Dietrich worked construction labor in the past; you do what you have to do, until you can do what you want to do.

    THAT is the mature, Adult response.

    And, I was the most prolific proponent of sending money to Linder, each and every month.

    If this is “money he is using to live on,” then that’s his choice.

    I think people thought they were supporting various VNN operating expenses.

    However, that’s all water under the dam, for now.

    What is of MUCH greater importance is how Linder could turn on Dietrich, especially after Dietrich bent Heaven and Earth – literally – to make the Forum work.

    How could Linder do this?

    Using the high school cafeteria model of Movement Past, how could he not?

    This ties in with the substantial point Briseis made, and no one else seems to want to discuss, so I’ll tie them together.

    Movement Past LOOKS to the Past, and tries to live there, as much as possible, worshiping Masculine Leaders without even the most constructive of criticism.

    How many followers of Sky God William Pierce can accept that Pierce’s most effective effort, the American Dissident Voices radio broadcasts, were the Creation of Kevin Alfred Strom?

    Not ONE.

    Can’t take Sky God William Pierce off of his pedestal, can we?

    Well, yes, we CAN; IF we are Adults.

    you wrote:

    You are a real SOB Dietrich, you back-stabbed the one who gave you everything. It was Linder who made you a star and now you spit in his face!

    in reply:
    Not at all.

    Did you notice that the people Linder kicks out seem, in many cases, to succeed where Linder failed?

    Think of Chain, self-taught in Creating PODCAST, and making it work.

    Think of Dietrich, and all at VOR.

    Hell, think of Agis, who did great commentary on VNN Forum.

    Think of Geoff Beck, and his wonderful “The Truth Is No Defense” broadcasts.

    And, as this being a “star” has cost Dietrich dearly in terms of time and money, well, if he was much more of a “star,” he would be on welfare!

    He does what he does for the same reason as Mishko, Peter Schaenk, the Patrio Dames, and the very clever Adrian Arlott, of Compulsory Diversity News. He really mocks us very well, indeed, and we need that, from time to time.

    Everyone else HATES us!

    you wrote:

    You should be ashamed of what you’ve done.

    in reply:
    And not a word for Linder, other that fulsome praise, unquestioned as to exactly who is doing what on VNN, in general, and VNN Forum, in particular?

    Hold one while I pick up the CluePhone for you.

    Movement Past is stuck in the Past; it is a Past that never really was, and they are trapped fighting yesterday’s battles with the fervor of the betrayed.

    Movement Future – and I use the term “Movement” with great reticence, as it is damn near self-mocking – takes The Cause, and is trying to Creatively build a much better future for our Posterity, and our Race.

    Note this:

    Harold Covington’s Northwest Analytical Model succeeds where all of the Leaders of Movement Past – and Present – have failed.

    Now, what did Brisesi notice, that no one wants to talk about?

    That is your Take-Home Quiz.

    Hint:

    No Adult Men Committed To The Race, No Racial Future.

  31. Mishko Novosel on November 30th, 2008 3:38 pm

    New America, one thing that’s interesting there have been several people that attack us to create division.

    To everyone else, what Dietrich said was just a response to Alex’s comments and feelings, and since he was banned from VNN, and Alex took him off of his Skype friends list there was no way to communicate with him. I really don’t want to get into any particulars because I still like Alex, and I know that Dietrich probably feels the same way. Anyone that’s listened to Alex, knows that he’s brilliant, but at the same time, he’s pushed away people that cared. As anyone that has a big family knows, family members do love each other, but occasionally fight and disagree. I guess it’s just part of being a real human being.

  32. Varange on November 30th, 2008 4:53 pm

    Well said, Brother Mishko. I recall a thread on VNNF when you were publicizing VOR and Alex attacked you personally, and IMHO, unfairly.

    I just sent you guys a donation, and I’ll continue to donate to Alex as well, as long as you continue to help us in our struggle.

    I suggest everyone here consider doing the same.

  33. New America on November 30th, 2008 5:04 pm

    in response to Mishko:

    I know that “Divide and Conquer,” with “By Way of Deception, You Shall Do War,” are very effective philosophy and tactics.

    I also know that the high school cafeteria clique that has been Movement Present acts automatically to limit our effectiveness.

    And, I see a useful point to be made concerning the recent discussion of Linder, and that is this:

    Everything that has happened to us, we damn LET HAPPEN to us.

    I’ve stood by and defended Linder on far too many occasions, particularly with Porngate, and even there, I looked for the Light in the Darkness – and found it.

    What he have to resist is the idea that any one person has all of the answers, al of the time (although Harold Covington’s Northwest Republic Analytical Framework comes closest, by far, for reasons I’ll discuss when its appropriate.)

    Team VNN makes more of Linder than they should, and all sides suffer for this.

    I am second to none in my admiration for Linder as a writer, and an analyst of our situation.

    He has no grasp of character whatsoever, and people who flock to him seeking The Way are ignoring the fact that THEY have the power to make The Way, for themselves, today, their families, tomorrow, and their Race, in time.

    If the first sentence of the last paragraph seems a bit harsh, consider how shocked the people of VNN Forum were when it was revealed that Linder – acting like a Child with his Pretty shiny Toy, put Mrs. Kevin Alfred Strom in as an Administrator. Listen to what Dietrich has to say when he literally begged Alex to look at what Mrs. Kevin Alfred Strom was doing.

    Dietrich ran into the high school cafeteria clique Mindset of Movement Present – and, the point I had made earlier, that VNN Forum was worthless – has been proven correct.

    And so, ultimately, Dietrich did what Chain did, what Agis did,m what so many of our Good People did – he made his own way, and it is a much better Way.

    Go to VNN’s Main Page/Blog, and see how quickly I was made an “UnPerson,” after speaking favorably of a possible future for Kevin Alfred Strom after he had been released from incarceration.

    Now, ask yourself why.

    I’m here, and an Bob Whitaker’s board, because we MUST get out of the mental boxes our Racial Enemy has set for us.

    And, as have said before, every timeLinder and VNN refers to Jesus as “Jeeboo,” and as being “a dead Jew on a stick,” WHO do you think gains from such proclamations?

    And why?

    Let the high school cafeteria cliques stay in high school, and let the VNN Forum people remain in their little cribs.

    The rest of us have a nation to build.

    And, as for my Goal, it is this:

    I want to sit in a field outside Kalispell, Montana, and watch the first starship lift off from this planet.

    To make this happen, I am doing my part in my Family, by working with my Nephews, and offering them “Honor, Discipline, and the Stars.”

  34. Wolf on November 30th, 2008 5:35 pm

    New American, has it ever occurred to you that besides your meaningless, endless and masturbatory diatribes, the reason you were banned from VNN is because Alex disapproves of board members who insist on defending perverts and paedophiles? Think about it.

  35. New America on November 30th, 2008 6:17 pm

    in reply to Wolf:

    you wrote:

    New American, has it ever occurred to you that besides your meaningless, endless and masturbatory diatribes, the reason you were banned from VNN is because Alex disapproves of board members who insist on defending perverts and paedophiles? Think about it.

    in reply:
    My “meaningless, endless and masturbatory diatribes” supplied a lot of the Ideas VNN needed to move forward past the high school cafeteria clique model of Movement Present.

    If you listen to when Linder is asked what he wants to do, track back what he says, and a lot of the ideas are mine.

    Examples?

    Curriculum for home teaching, speaking competitions, organizing a parallel nation just like the Jews have done so damn successfully.

    PODBLANC and VOR represent leaving Movement Past, the high school clique model of organization, and moves forward to College, and The Cause – The Race – the Fourteen Words that are at the very foundation of Judaism, and have been transformed from demons into servant angels when applied to the White Race – and Western Civilization.

    I suspect Linder hits his Comfort zone at a certain level of Commentary and Constructive Criticism. Past that, he melts down.

    That’s fine – I appreciate all of the good he has done, and I really appreciate all of the better Socrates does when running the Main Page/Blog.

    But, the finest homage you can pay to your Teacher is to do better.

    We are.

    And, as for Kevin Alfred Strom, I think that was a rationalization – look at the day I got banned, and then look at the earlier postings on this topic – just go to the Main Page/Blog and skip down on the right to the SEARCH box, and type in “Kevin Alfred Strom.”

    My basic point is this:

    It really does not matter if we like him or not; the Federal Judiciary has green-lighted him for return to Society, and THAT IS THAT.

    The question for us is, can Kevin Alfred Strom do what we MUST do, and transform our demons into servant angels?

    I think he can, and can become a Selfless servant of the Race.

    And, remember, when people speak of the National Alliance, and Sky God Dr. William Pierce, they are usually referring to the guidance and inspiration they received from listening to the American Dissident Voices broadcasts, which were written, edited, broadcast and occasionally done by, Kevin Alfred Strom.

    Remember, Kevin Alfred Strom did the ONE advertisement that actually worked, with a soft, acoustic guitar and a true broadcast professional voiceover.

    Think what he could do with a Macintosh!

    And, think about it – after ALL I wrote before about Kevin Alfred Strom, note that Linder banned me after I commented about Kevin Alfred Strom upon his release.

    Hey!

    Think Linder might have seen Kevin Alfred Strom in one light, when incarcerated, and in another light, after he was released?

    What might that Light be?

    Competition?

    High school cafeteria cliques…

    Well, might as well make the best of it!

    Remember, Kevin Alfred Strom did a piece on American Dissident Voices reminding us of our greater Heritage, and defining The Way Forward for us.

    It was called “Toward The Stars.”

    Perhaps he can do it over, with Macintosh technology.

    Kevin Alfred Strom is RIGHT, in this, because he was always looking for the High Ground for our Race.

    Kevin Alfred Strom offers the Race a Path BACK to where we SHOULD be, and a Guide for our social compasses – “Toward The Stars.”

    I offer my Nephews, my Posterity, “Honor, Discipline, and the Stars.”

    It’s a start, and a much better start than many others have to offer.

  36. Dietrich on November 30th, 2008 8:05 pm

    Varange,

    Whomever you are, thank you. You’re the one person most responsible for making VoR financially possible with your past and present support.

    Stu: “It was Linder who made you a star and now you spit in his face!”

    Wow. Including all involved parties, I would bet that exactly nobody would agree with any of this–especially the “star” part. Come back down to Earth, man.

    Wolf: “Finally, Dietrich has some nerve seeking sympathy for going to school for ever and ever. . .”

    It would be out of character and useless for me to ask for you sympathy, since it has no effect over standard TCP/IP.

    —–

    The whole thing is over, as far as I’m concerned. I wanted to respond to a false accusation, and I don’t care to hear about future ones. All know where to find me if they have something I need to hear, and we have a toll-free # for those who want to discuss it on-air. I have no need to be evasive because I haven’t done anything wrong.

    -DM

  37. Z.O.G. on November 30th, 2008 8:11 pm

    …”meaningless, endless and masturbatory diatribes…”

    Yep, that about sums up “New America”(Edgar Steele). Keep in mind that he is a LAWYER.

    LOL :-)

  38. katman on November 30th, 2008 9:13 pm

    peter,

    if you do indeed have a tape of jones calling you, please digitize it and post it on the blog for all of us to hear. you won’t have any legal difficulties since it is legal in texas to tape phone calls. but i would like to hear it. i cannot believe jones would do something stupid like this. obviously it is either a fake or jones is some kind of paranoid self deluded joker on drugs, or both. so peter, would you please post the message on shankradio.com. i would be most amused listening to it. why he would do this is beyond explanation. with all of the work he has to do all the time, it is funny he would take the time to call some internet radio guy about anything. but that is just my opinion.

    also peter, would you please stop saying you are live from austin, when you aren’t :)

    by the way peter, it is funny , that jones is whining about you. seems he is whining about mcp too as of late. mcp opened up a can of whoopass on jones all last week on his shows, especially about the jfk assassination and some other things. so there is something going on about this jewish situation. i think there are many people questioning jones and his true loyalties at this point. a mere web search will turn up this fact. basically on RBN right now, you have about 4 or 5 shows that are good. they are mcp’s show, the old cop mclamb show, mark glenn’s show on saturday morning, and then again mark glenn and hesham’s show on saturday afternoon and then Mark Dankof’s show on sunday morning. otherwise it is all dead air now.

    so peter, how about it. can we hear mookie doing his thing on tape?

  39. New America on November 30th, 2008 9:21 pm

    in reply to katman:

    I think your post belongs in the show dealing with Peter’s most recent show.

    Thanks.

  40. katman on November 30th, 2008 9:22 pm

    as far as M3 is concerned , they are attempting to reflate the economy. i am not sure they can do it , do to the amount of money involved or shall we say, numbers on a computer print out. the possible debts involved are without ability to number more or less, and of course none of this will ever be paid back. it is truely amazing how people walk around talking about this, as if all things can be brought back to the way they were. they cannot. it is over. we have reached the peak of credit. the only thing that needs to happen is the bankruptcy of the united states, and starting over. having said that, it is a unknown to this writer, what that exactly means, but i am sure it is not fun. what will happen and is going to happen, is economic nuclear winter, when we americans are forced to adjust to new realities. from now on, it is not making money that is important, it is keeping the money that you have. it is not what we want that is important, it is what we need. what is really needed? well to know this all you have to do is consult your Biblical text to see what men needed in days of old. what was that? gold and silver, cattle, sheep, goats, arable lands, children, wives, family, etc etc……..this is where we are going. in the last depression, most americans had farms to run to when times were bad and they had food, even though they had no money. now, people only know that food comes from safeway or krogers, etc. children do not understand the chain of supply for food. it would be imperative to say that each of us must relearn what we have forgotten or perish…….

  41. Susie on November 30th, 2008 9:48 pm

    Gee, am I the only one with balls enough to use my real name?
    susie

  42. katman on November 30th, 2008 11:01 pm

    susie, if you have balls, then your name better not be susie……:)

  43. Z.O.G. on December 1st, 2008 1:11 am

    Yes, katman, a worldwide economic DEFLATIONARY depression is coming. It’s in its beginning stages right now. Very few people seem to be aware of this. This worldwide depression will change everything. It will be much greater than the depression of the 1930′s. This depression will provide the opportunity to remove the Jews from power in the West once and for all, or it will…well, I’m sure you can imagine what the alternative is. ;-)

  44. Z.O.G. on December 1st, 2008 1:12 am

    “obviously it is either a fake or JONES IS SOME KIND OF PARANOID SELF-DELUDED JOKER ON DRUGS”

    Bingo! :-D

  45. Z.O.G. on December 1st, 2008 1:14 am

    katman,

    So Peter isn’t actually in Austin, Texas? Geeze, I should have known. If he’s not even using his real name, then why would he say where he really lives?

    So where does he live? In Los Angeles? He says that’s where he grew up. Does he still live in that area?

  46. Z.O.G. on December 1st, 2008 1:24 am

    New America on November 30th, 2008 9:21 pm -
    “in reply to katman: I think your post belongs in the show dealing with Peter’s most recent show. Thanks.”

    So now you think you own this website and have the right to tell posters where we can and can’t post our comments? Wow, you’ve sure got a high opinion of yourself, don’t you? LOL

    Don’t make me start posting lawyer jokes. ;-)

  47. Stu Gavin on December 1st, 2008 3:26 am

    Schaenk isn’t in Austin, Texas either? Any other shockers we haven’t heard? Is he actually a female?

  48. Stu Gavin on December 1st, 2008 3:27 am

    Patricia Schaenk?

  49. Hibernian on December 1st, 2008 1:46 pm

    Speaking as a founding member of the “Special Projects Unit”, I can speak from experience that Dietrich/Mark did NOTHING wrong in the “break-up” with Alex over the start of VOR.

    It might be time to breathe new life into the SPU.

  50. Peter Schaenk on December 1st, 2008 3:32 pm

    #1. Mishko and two producers of my broadcast, Steve and Mike, both heard the recording several times. It is indeed Jones.

    #2. I record the show from my studio in Austin.

    #3. I am not a woman.

    #4. Susie’s testicles explain her low radio voice.

    #5. Yes, Peter Schaenk is a radio name. In Hebrew, it translates as follows: He, who is “big prick”.

    #5. I chose the name years ago when I was doing a “take off” of the “O’Reilly Factor”. It was called the “Peter Principal”.

    #6. Judge me by the veracity of my facts and presentation, not my radio handle. Just as I judge all of you by your posts and the information you present for public scrutiny. I do not judge you by your Internet handle…This means you ZOG!

    A Rose by any other name would still be a Rose.

    A Schaenk by any other name would still be a poke in the eye of Zionism.

    Thanks for your comments and thanks for listening.

  51. Peter Schaenk on December 1st, 2008 3:37 pm

    Katman:

    Yes, Jones was using his “Freddie Blassie, Pencil-Neck-Geek” voice, on the threatening message.

  52. Ed in CT on December 1st, 2008 6:09 pm

    Dietrich never said that VNN was a front for the SPLC. He said the site was being watched by the SPLC and that the site is not as secure as one may think.

    I work in IT as well and know from experience that ANY website, no matter how secure you may think it is, can be infiltrated.

  53. Hibernian on December 1st, 2008 6:22 pm

    I think you were in the SPU, weren’t you Ed?

  54. Ed in CT on December 1st, 2008 7:51 pm

    I was and I still donate to VOR and will help in any way I can.

  55. Z.O.G. on December 1st, 2008 9:33 pm

    Hell, I pretty much assume that every single WN site on the internet is watched by the SPLC. That’s just common sense. The kikes at the SPLC have to justify their paychecks, after all! It’s a living.

  56. Wolf on December 1st, 2008 9:59 pm

    The suggestion was that there’s something particular about VNN. Some special relationship between Alex and the SPLC. Like he’s on their payroll or something. A nasty and vindictive charge I’d say, something one would expect to hear from a woman scorned… sad.

  57. New America on December 2nd, 2008 2:23 am

    in reply to Wolf:

    you wrote:

    The suggestion was that there’s something particular about VNN. Some special relationship between Alex and the SPLC. Like he’s on their payroll or something. A nasty and vindictive charge I’d say, something one would expect to hear from a woman scorned… sad.

    in reply:
    One, always assume that someone or another is listening, and watching, and even intercepting – period.

    Two, as I cited above, VNN’s Forum had at least one Administrator that came from nowhere, and just horrified all of the posters. Dietrich in particular suffered, and you can hear the difficult in his voice on VNN FTL where he discussed how desperately he tried to tell Alex just how bad things were under the management of this person.

    Dietrich considers this past and done with, and so do I; the important thing is to GET the lesson, and not DWELL on the lesson.

    That is simply too high school cafeteria cliquish for all of us.

    Did I mention I’m a big fan of the work Kevin Alfred Strom has done for our Race?

    Thought so!

  58. Wolf on December 2nd, 2008 4:42 am

    What our Race does not need is more pseudo-martyrs rotting away in jail for child porn possession charges, trumped up or not. It was his poor judgement for hooking up with that whack job ex of his. He would have had infinitely more respect if he was sent away for attempted spousal murder. As it is, he’s forever useless to the struggle.

  59. Hibernian on December 2nd, 2008 9:28 am

    That’s good to hear, Ed.

    We need to support this non-clown emergent White media now more than ever.

    With the end of ‘White rule’ here in America, and the coming economic bottom-out, there are going to be a lot of Whites looking for answers.

    It’s our duty to be ready with those answers.

  60. Hibernian on December 2nd, 2008 9:37 am

    Oh, and one should assume EVERY White Nationalist forum/website is monitored both by ADL/SPLC types and various Law Enforcement agencies.

    Don’t say anything anywhere online you wouldn’t say to a cop. Period.

    Ask Bill White. You’ll probably have to wait the better part of a decade to ask him, though.

  61. Z.O.G. on December 2nd, 2008 1:54 pm

    Isn’t Alex Linder f*cking the ex-wife of Kevin Alfred Strom? And didn’t he put her in charge as an administrator of VNN Forum?

    ;-)

  62. Reck,Less:Abandon on December 2nd, 2008 6:11 pm

    Reckonable AKA:Reck Less Abandon, Lost Wages/Oi Vegas,Nevada, North Ameri~CIA~n, UN….. AKA: Earth. * Musician/Drums.* Recon?

  63. Reck,Less:Abandon on December 2nd, 2008 6:23 pm

    Naming is the process of assigning a particular word or phrase to a particular object or property.
    Reckless Abandon, is who I am.

    A name (etymology: from OE nama; akin to OHG namo, Latin nomen, and Greek όνομα (onoma), ultimately from PIE: *nomn- [1]) is a label for a noun, (human or animal, thing, place, product (as in a brand name) and even an idea or concept), normally used to distinguish one from another. Names can identify a class or category of things, or a single thing, either uniquely, or within a given context. A personal name identifies a specific unique and identifiable individual person. The name of a specific entity is sometimes called a proper name (although that term has a philosophical meaning also) and is a proper noun. Other nouns are sometimes, more loosely, called names; an older term for them, now obsolete, is “general name”.

    The use of personal names is not unique to humans. Dolphins also use symbolic names, as has been shown by recent research.[2] Individual dolphins have individual whistles, to which they will respond even when there is no other information to clarify which dolphin is being referred to.

    Naming is the process of assigning a particular word or phrase to a particular object or property. This can be quite deliberate or a natural process that occurs in the flow of life as some phenomenon comes to the attention of the users of a language. Many new words or phrases come into existence during translation as attempts are made to express concepts from one language in another.Many of these names have meanings that can also be very helpful during this process.

    Either as a part of the naming process, or later as usage is observed and studied by lexicographers, the word can be defined by a description of the pattern to which it refers.

    Besides their grammatical function, names can have additional or pure honorary and memorial values. For example, the posthumous name’s primary function is commemorative.

    Care must be taken in translation, for there are ways that one language may prefer one type of name over another. For example, there are “merchants’ and sailors’ terms” for their own convenience: the spellings Leghorn, Genoa, and Rome do not appear on Italian maps. Also, a feudal naming habit is used sometimes in other languages: the French often refer to Aristotle as “le Stagirite” from one spelling of his place of birth, and English speakers often refer to Shakespeare as “The Bard”, recognizing him as a paragon writer of the language. Finally, claims to preference or authority can be refuted: the British did not refer to Louis-Napoleon as Napoleon III during his rule.

  64. Wolf on December 2nd, 2008 9:30 pm

    Who gives a fuck?

  65. New America on December 2nd, 2008 10:52 pm

    in reply to Z.O.G.:

    you wrote:

    Isn’t Alex Linder f*cking the ex-wife of Kevin Alfred Strom? And didn’t he put her in charge as an administrator of VNN Forum?

    ;-)

    in reply:
    As to the SECOND question, yes, I believe Alex Linder DID place Mrs. Kevin Alfred Strom in charge of VNN’s Forum as an Administrator, which, as I understand it, allows one the power to harvest IP addresses from posters.

    As to the FIRST question, damn, isn’t that so much like high school cafeteria clique activity – “Adolescence At Its Finest” – that, while I certainly hope it’s not true, doesn’t the very thought of this lend itself to some fascinating romantic speculation?

    “Hi! Would you care to sign my t-shirt?”

    “Well, how about your husband? What would he say? Suppose he catches us like this?”

    “Don’t worry – he’s doing two years in the lockup on federal charges!”

    “OH!”

    Sorry for the digression; it’s just that the Spirit of Compulsory Diversity News overcame me for the moment. I can assure you, it will not happen again. At least, not in the next little while.

    Goddamn high school cafeteria clique organizations, AND caliber of relationships!

    The good news seems to be this:

    If Alex Linder ever decides to do video commentary, he will know who to call to get recording equipment.

    And that’s all I’m going to say!

    For now.

    By the way, I’m not saying Alex Linder EVER laid a hand on Mrs. Kevin Alfred Strom, and I can not believe that fine gentleman would dare be caught dead – how did you put it? – ” f*cking the ex-wife of Kevin Alfred Strom?”

    After all, if memory serves, Mr. and Mrs. Kevin Alfred Strom are still – the last I heard, and this may have changed…

    Mr. and Mrs. Kevin Alfred Strom.

    Oh, I admit that, for Mr. and Mrs. Kevin Alfred Strom, the path to marital bliss might have had a couple of small pebbles strewn around it, and yes, the handsome groom, as well as the beautiful blushing bride, might have had a small marital tiff or two along the way – haven’t we all been there, at one time or another? – but, the last I heard, they were still legally husband and wife – “As One,” as they say.

    So, it is impossible that Alex Linder, and Mrs. Kevin Alfred Strom, could ever have been, well, “close,” as they say..

    Not THAT “close,” at any rate.

    With All Good Wishes!

  66. Joliet Johnny on December 3rd, 2008 2:54 pm

    Don’t type anything on your computer that you don’t want read in court. I avoid using forums because I don’t need them to come up with ideas. They are nice to talk to like minded people but they might be feds. The time for talk is over. Our time will come. The masses are lazy and most wont take the time to read about the problem/solution. That is why sites like VOR are so important. The brave people of sites like this are putting their necks on the chopping block for the greater good. Those of you who sit at your computers and type for hours on end and consider yourself activists start burning these shows to cds and give them to people. If you have no one to give them to sneak them into wal mart and put them in all the cd players on display. I call it reverse shoplifting. If you can’t do that then mail in money to a group of people who you think are actually doing something productive.

  67. Pastor Martin Luther Dzerzhinsky Lindstedt on December 4th, 2008 4:32 am

    Well, I’ve listened to Peter Shaenk. This goofy whigger with a microphone yapped about how it was scared that sundry sock-puppets might find out itz name. It promised that it would piss down itz leg and run for the tall grace if it ever got found out.

    Then it bitched because other whiggers were hiding behind anonymous accounts to spam his whigger web page. So he is going to IP ban these fellow clowns who are doing exactly what Shaenk is doing. Of course whiggers simply cannot understand that if it wants to hide behind an anonymous account that other whiggers will want to do so as well. And I suppose this Peter Shaenk is so idiotic that it hasn’t figured out that if it can censorship ban mere whggers that ZOG can’t figure out itz IP number.

    So I’m feeling fine. Unlike the cowardly and idiotic Shaenk and itz fellow whiggers making fun of itz pretentions, I have used my own name to post. But I underestimated the stupidity, cowardice and hypocrisy of typical ZOGling whigger ass-clowns like Shaenk.

    Shaenk then brought up my name. Whined that I was stalking it to itz unknown whigga-bunker someplace in the ZOGland, and then made me out to be the next Timothy McVeigh, Lee Harvey Oswald, etc., for which I should feel honored. Why I was going to gun down Obongo any day now and all the whiggers would be put in camps because of me and them clever jews.

    Of course Shaenk glossed over the fact that he cut me off exactly when I was bringing up where exactly Alex Linder was getting his money from, i.e. TraitorGlenn Miller. So I got to listen to sundry lies about the past, all of which could be disproved by simply hearing the recording of the past. I was immediately laughing at this whigger’s nonsense and patent love of lies. Shaenk didn’t like being called a whigger, any more than most whiggers love being called whiggers. But like most whiggers, it told the ZOGling whigger audience to take the whiglets out of earshot for me saying that dire word: nigger. Never mind the fact that any racially aware whigger will use itz favorite n-word so as to try to train the whigglets to not fuck niglets when they grow up. And Peter Shaenk then read a few sundry comments from the blog, and got so agitated that it said that it would IP ban me. But at the same time it urged itz listeners to listen to the star attraction.

    I’ve always said that it isn’t the niggers or beaners or even jews that are the problem, itz the whiggers like Peter Shaenk. It gets the whigger-whimperer Edgar Steele on to bitch about the overt racists who are going to do their dirty work so that they can live in whiggerdumb after all us white trash are in prison after we kill all the jews and muds. Why us White Nationalists are supposed to make the world safe for ZOGling whiggerdumb, just as butchers are supposed to provide these whiggers with meat and then go to their section of town. These whiggers think that they are an aristocracy, but by their cowardice they are actually a kakistocracy.

    So Peter Shaenk bitched and whined all about how I was turned loose from the NutHouse to serve jew conspiracies and as a result the jews and piglice whiggers were going to put these [d]ruling whiggers in camps. Why I suppose then and only then will the piglice be able to trace Peter Shaenk in his secret paytridiotic bunker where he is cowering, scared of the jews, and put him in a camp with other jewdayo-whiggers. What is to me just one of Satan’s pets is to Peter Shaenk the kike super-mamzers.

    Hey Peter Shaenk. Since I’m to be the next Timothy McVeigh, Lee Harvey Oswald, James Earl Ray, hell, the next Martin Lindstedt for that matter, why don’t you simply put me on the air, with a 30-second delay lest I offend jewr senselessabilities with promiscuous use of my favorite n-word and w-word, and bring up ratings to jewr ratings-dead show.

    Let the whiggers decide who has the most compelling vision of the future. Why I am such a feeb wing-nut that a clever paytriot media whigger like jewrself should be able to outsmart a nut like me no longer on medication. And if it leads to an appearance on the jewry Springer show, then I’ll take you along on a leash to prevent some hungry hungry hippo-nigger from denutting you and serving you up for Kwansaa.

    And about jewr saving snivilization. What a crock of shit. Civilization cannot long endure when the ZOGlings making it up are simply cowardly lying stupid hypocritical whiggers too scared to kill all the niggers, gooks, beaners, jews — and whiggers that infest it. We differ in what makes a White man. I am a White man. You are jewst a cowardly lying whigger without a brain, without honor, without a clue.

    And not being scared of ZOG or whiggers, I call upon my friends and anyone who loves truth to out this whigger Shaenk, post its real name and face to an audience, and then demand that it run for the tall grass and bother the White Nationalist movement with itz lies no more.

    Pastor Martin Luther Dzerzhinsky Lindstedt
    Church of Jesus Christ Christian/Aryan Nations of Missouri
    http://www.whitenationalist.org

  68. Z.O.G. on December 4th, 2008 4:46 am

    Them’s fightin’ words, Pastor Lindstedt! Maybe “Peter Schaenk” will have you on his show as a guest.

    LOL :-)

  69. Pastor Martin Luther Dzerzhinsky Lindstedt on December 4th, 2008 5:03 am

    Them’s fightin’ words, Pastor Lindstedt! Maybe “Peter Schaenk” will have you on his show as a guest.

    LOL :-)

    ===========

    I doubt it. This liar cut me off 4 years ago when I asked him where did he think Linder got his money from if not TraitorGlenn Miller. And now it still can’t tell the truth.

    Then it bitched about what I said about Movement whiggers who pretend to lead.

    Then it whined about Alex Linder. And took the part of the guy who is giving it a microphone — at least until it gets outed. Why them clever evil jews are just too stupid to follow the IP number.

    This fool, Peter Skank (get it, Peter Skank — a good jape of an a-lie-ass) simply doesn’t understand that it says one thing, then the exact opposite, then yet another absurdity, and yet another. First it was you anonymous posters, then nutty me just out of the NutHouse, then Alex Linder, then pornographers, then jews, now someone else. Never niggers of course. Can’t say the n-word with the whigglets around. And then a call for jewnity between those who have a bowel Movement of CreaTard whiggers on VNN and the PC jewdayo-whiggers on VoR.

    Reason gets short shrift from the Skank. It always got another jew conspiracy before itz nose to air and it can’t figure out what it said 10 minutes ago.

    Can this fool get itz lies straight?

    By the way, Skank didn’t plug my Church. But he did get my name straight. and I got a plug from Terrible Tommy Metzger today.

    Eventually the audience will get tired of listening to lies and drop this fool, even though it was free

    Pastor Martin Luther Dzerzhinsky Lindstedt
    Church of Jesus Christ Christian/Aryan Nations of Missouri

  70. Pastor Martin Luther Dzerzhinsky Lindstedt on December 4th, 2008 5:34 am

    Listen to the Peter Skank.

    Why, the White Race is an impediment to Western Civilization. Why Western Snivelization is far more important than the White Race. This whigger obviously doesn’t stop to consider that if there are no more Western Whites then there won’t be no more Western Snivelization.

    Oh, and yes, I am not well meaning but rather insane. No inter-species/feces amity between the neo-whiggers and insane racists like myself.

    Peter Skank is waging a war on perception or something like that.

    But I did get itz e-mail address. Unlike the Skank I have3 nothing to hide. shanktalk@yahoo.com

    why is it that LibberToon whiggers whine about censorship by jews for them, yet immediately whenever they come to some position of power immediately censor some other White who they deem ‘insane’ because he is more overtly racist then them?

    Could it be that these whiggers are really not a bit different than the jews that they would replace? Other than being a bit more cowardly, that is? Able to lie to theysselfs as whiggers in a way that jews cannot afford to do to themselves, not if they wish to survive as parasites with bad Whites like me wanting to render them down into soap and lampshades?

    Perhaps whiggers don’t really want a racial holy class civil war but rather to sell trinkets and have a microphone? And yes, i do want to overthrow ZOG. I not only want to kill piglice and regime criminals, I want to make them eat their nuts as well.

    whhhhhhiiiiiiigggggggeeeeeerrrrr power!

    Oh well, I suppose I’ll eventually get banned and then this gliberal whigger will have to go to my web page to listen to the paytriot trinket sellers and conspiracy theorists of the day get trashed out.

    Pastor Martin Luther Dzerzhinsky Lindstedt
    Church of Jesus Christ Christian/Aryan Nations of Missouri
    http://www.whitenationalist.org

  71. Martin Lindstedt's Babysitting Service on December 4th, 2008 5:42 am

    :P

  72. Hibernian on December 4th, 2008 7:11 am

    Why is utterly insane Molestin’ Martin Lindstedt allowed to post his ramblings at all?

    Dude is 100% nuts.

  73. New America on December 4th, 2008 11:14 am

    Hibernian wrote:

    Why is utterly insane Molestin’ Martin Lindstedt allowed to post his ramblings at all?

    in reply:
    This, in large part, is what killed VNN’s Forum – democracy run rampant.

    I am working on my comments on Peter’s excellent show, and – by rights – “Pastor Linstedt” should have his analysis in THAT thread, and not THIS thread..

    I do not want to deal with Linstedt any more, but I use him as a perfect example of Movement Past, and the perfect example of why self-proclaimed “White Nationalism” can be easily divided into two groups – Normal people, who act like normal people, work normal jobs, and make the world a better place on a daily basis – Pierce, Rockwell, Steele – and Irrational Fools, who adopt the symbols of power for a different place, and a different time, even as they brag of being the “Creative Race.”

    Pastor Martin Luther Dzerzhinsky Lindstedt wrote:

    So Peter Shaenk bitched and whined all about how I was turned loose from the NutHouse to serve jew conspiracies and as a result the jews and piglice whiggers were going to put these [d]ruling whiggers in camps.

    in reply:
    If I was a shrewd and cunning man, I would remove our educated, articulate spokespeople who actually posed a Creative, constructive, challenge to the status quo, like Bill White.

    I would then allow people like you to come forward,. and have every damn tv camera in the world covering you.

    And I would say, “See! This is what White Nationalists are like. Note the reason for his time as a Guest of the State!”

    THEN, I would have our Official Warm, Powerful, Masculine Negro Spokesperson offer a calm, quiet critique of what you said, and mention that “Now, with the election of President Obama, we are Too Bog For Hate.”

    The key is this:

    They will identify the word “Hate” with what they see, and Marty, they will Hate you, and anyone who dares associate themselves with what you preach.

    I do not have any more time left to deal with this.

    Marty, no one cares what you think, save as an example of what NOT to do, and who NOT to be.

    Period.

  74. katman on December 4th, 2008 12:08 pm

    they were having a discussion on the MCP show one night and they started talking about Rockwell. I believe they were talking about how he seemed always to have money, even though he never had a job. The consensus was that he was turned and became a double agent for the opposition. There is no reason why any thinking American would want to join any organization. In my opinion they are all fully infiltrated. Many useful idiots say yes to easy money and will do whatever they are told.

  75. New America on December 4th, 2008 5:57 pm

    in reply to katman:

    I can’t go along with the causal slur of Rockwell like that.

    Note that Rockwell was assassinated; something you hardly needed to do to a turned agent.

    Note that Rockwell had a true spiritual meeting with Someone who literally transformed him into an agent of Selfless Racial Service, and note how incredibly devoted Rockwell was to The Cause.

    It is impossible Rockwell could have betrayed our Race.

  76. Copterav8r on December 5th, 2008 5:17 pm

    <idiotic flame deleted>

      Notice

    Moving forward, all comments containing flames, profanity or insults will be summarily deleted. Repeated abuse will be followed up with IP bans. Conduct yourselves like civil adults, or hit the bricks.

    - Mike Conner.

  77. Igor Alexander on December 5th, 2008 5:37 pm

    1. New America — are you on the payroll of Apple or something? Macs are for sissies. They’re what Hollywood wants you to buy.

    2. New America is NOT Edgar J. Steele. The writing style is completely different. Besides, where would Edgar find the time?

    3. Don’t you people have anything better to do? The economy is collapsing, the Republican Party is dead, the U.S. has a Marxist mulatto for a president, and the Jews continue to plan WWIII, and yet all you can find the time to squabble about is THIS? Get your priorities straight.

    If I was Joe Blo and this thread was my first exposure to white nationalism, I’d run screaming the other way.

  78. Igor Alexander on December 5th, 2008 5:42 pm

    “I call it reverse shoplifting.”

    “Reverse shoplifting” — ROFL! That’s pretty good.

  79. Igor Alexander on December 5th, 2008 5:49 pm

    One thing PC users can do that Mac users can’t:
    http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=macs_cant

  80. Copterav8r on December 5th, 2008 5:53 pm

    Igor,

    Micro$oft is the answer especially Vista. LOL! Ask Martin Lindstedt what his opinion of M$ Vista is.

  81. James Hawthorne on December 5th, 2008 7:15 pm

    Lean Mean Truth Machine!

  82. New Ameriica on December 5th, 2008 8:08 pm

    in reply to Igor Alexander:

    you wrote:

    1. New America — are you on the payroll of Apple or something? Macs are for sissies. They’re what Hollywood wants you to buy.

    in reply:
    So many people have so much time and energy invested in how to make the Windows machine work, they don’t get as much work done as they could – or should.

    The Macintosh offers much greater power, a common interface among all programs, and – if you REALLY need it – will run Windows XP for you.

    you wrote:

    2. New America is NOT Edgar J. Steele. The writing style is completely different. Besides, where would Edgar find the time?

    in reply:
    Exactly, and thank you.

    you wrote:

    3. Don’t you people have anything better to do? The economy is collapsing, the Republican Party is dead, the U.S. has a Marxist mulatto for a president, and the Jews continue to plan WWIII, and yet all you can find the time to squabble about is THIS? Get your priorities straight.

    in reply:
    A “collapsing economy” implies a collapsing social order, and the gelding of the Republican Party at the NATIONAL level simply reflects part of this; there is nothing we can do about the rest, and, nor should we.

    Obama is the best thing that ever happened to us.

    Peter noted, in an earlier show, that every government run by the Colored has been a failure; look at Detroit, for example.

    We can only prepare, intelligently.

    And, for all of the people who speak of World War III, note this:

    That means the end of any form of government above the Tribal level, and WE can build Civilization back fairly quickly.

    To use an example of Alex Linder’s, magine this: a big sign at the border to ANY State in the Union, no matter how bare, desolate, and inhospitable it may seem (Montana will do for this example), with the words on it :

    WHITES ONLY! ALL OTHERS WILL BE SHOT!

    In fifty years, you could watch Mankind’s first starship lifting off outside Kalispell.

    Outside the State borders, they couldn’t even maintain the roads, much less build them.

    It would be a Mud Hell.

    you wrote:

    If I was Joe Blo and this thread was my first exposure to white nationalism, I’d run screaming the other way.

    in reply:
    All too true.

    The problem is, we have not had any Plan for what to do after they take the Red Pill.

    That, in good part, is why Mathews and Lane died with their lives unfulfilled; they accepted the Enemy’s Terms and Definitions of Who they were, and What they could do.

    We DO know this:

    Christianity, and Western Civilization, MUST be the Watchwords of our Racial Future.

  83. Pastor Martin Luther Dzerzhinsky Lindstedt on December 6th, 2008 11:26 pm

    New America/whiggaZOG on December 4th, 2008 11:14 am

    Hibernigger wrote:

    Why is utterly insane Molestin’ Martin Lindstedt allowed to post his ramblings at all?

    =============

    Whenever I find whiggers like that, I intend to make them eat their words — and their testicles. — MLDL

    ==============

    in reply:
    This, in large part, is what killed VNN’s Forum – democracy run rampant.

    =============

    The thing that killed VNNF is simply that whiggers like New America were allowed to run wild there, but they don’t want Whites to have anything to say. So they censored Whites, especially those who questioned the TraitorGlenn Miller/Alex Linder connection and who paid what. So now VNNF is a rathole of CreaTards and wannabe whiggers playing at Revolution.

    This particular whigger claims that it represents the Movement. Yet like the Skankster, all it sells is why things are so bad without any intention to do something about the mud flood. It like most whiggers says that free speech should not be allowed if it is in conflict with whigger speech.

    This whigger would impose itz own variety of Politically Correct foolishness upon others based upon what? What it insists should be itz own standards when this whigger, like Skank, is too cowardly to show its name and face in public? Since when do the cowardly have a veto on what the committed and the brave say? No, a typical whigger ahould be viewed as such and nothing it says should be viewed as having any relevance if it is too cowardly to show itz snout. –MLDL

    ===============

    I am working on my comments on Peter’s excellent show, and – by rights – “Pastor Linstedt” should have his analysis in THAT thread, and not THIS thread..

    ===========

    The Skankster made the cowardly decision that it wouldn’t allow any discouraging words on itz Paytriot Trinket Show. So I’m here on this forum wherein the whigga gangstas called Skanksters got to get down and dirty, as opposed to masturbating theysselfs in their own corner. — MLDL

    ============

    I do not want to deal with Linstedt any more, but I use him as a perfect example of Movement Past, and the perfect example of why self-proclaimed “White Nationalism” can be easily divided into two groups – Normal people, who act like normal people, work normal jobs, and make the world a better place on a daily basis – Pierce, Rockwell, Steele – and Irrational Fools, who adopt the symbols of power for a different place, and a different time, even as they brag of being the “Creative Race.”

    ==============

    Well, what is jewr job, other than brawling with those of us who actually want to fight a Revolution and exterminate jews, muds, and whigger regime criminals? Is Dilbert the Geek Freak going to actually do anything which makes the world a better place? And more to the point, my criticism of “The Whigger-Whimperer’ Steele was actually a blessing. Why Edgar Steele brings in plenty of you ZOGling whiggers into the Movement where you . . . . . criticise the Resistance people who have been in the Movement longer than Edgar Steele and from what I gather will be in the Movement long after Edgar steele leaves the Movement.

    I’m sure that Movement whiggers have some use other than minefield clearance. It makes ZOG waste a bullet, for example. But the problem is that over the past 15 years I’ve seen whiggers come and whiggers go and most of them learn nothing useful during their attempt at slumming. Whiggers are pretty useless. But Edgar Steele, the Whigger-Whimperer, sure does a fine job of getting them into a masturbatory lather. –MLDL
    ================

    Pastor Martin Luther Dzerzhinsky Lindstedt wrote:

    > So Peter Shaenk bitched and whined all about how I was turned
    >loose from the NutHouse to serve jew conspiracies and as a
    >result the jews and piglice whiggers were going to put these
    >[d]ruling whiggers in camps.

    in reply:
    If I was a shrewd and cunning man, I would remove our educated, articulate spokespeople who actually posed a Creative, constructive, challenge to the status quo, like Bill White.

    ============
    Actually, the WhiggerWhimperer Steele pissed over Bill White, saying that ZOG had every reason to jail him. Itz a game bowel-Movement whiggers play, called “Shit on every other Movement whigger who has a moment’s more air time than me.” Whiggas are pretty petty critters and don’t like other whiggers having more than their fair share of jewsmedia time. –MLDL
    =============

    I would then allow people like you to come forward,. and have every damn tv camera in the world covering you.

    And I would say, “See! This is what White Nationalists are like. Note the reason for his time as a Guest of the State!”

    ============
    I used to have the exact same debate in 1999 with anonymous whigger militia generals. 160 million whiggers in the ZOGland and every single one of them is exactly alike in their cowardice.

    Why dissidents are in jail because it is their own fault — the cry of both slaves and whigger slavers alike.

    Frankly, after 3 1/2 years of ZOG imprisonment, I’m the Nelson Mandela of Hate. Being jailed shows that I’m the genuine article. And my hatred of jews and muds and whiggers is the other genuine article.

    Listening to the Skank moan about how after I pull a Lee Harvey Oswald or James Earl Ray on ‘President’ ONigger means that ZOG will put all of you whiggers in a concentration camp merely goes to show how much of cowards you whiggers really are. Why worry about ZOG and ONigger taking jewr guns when you are offering them jewr nuts to cut for free. Run, sWill Whiggason, Run! Them niggers you pretend to love so much are headed for the suburbs! And whiggers are too cowardly to stop them. Why they might be called racist! — MLDL
    ==========

    THEN, I would have our Official Warm, Powerful, Masculine Negro Spokesperson offer a calm, quiet critique of what you said, and mention that “Now, with the election of President Obama, we are Too Bog For Hate.”

    ===========

    I bet this whigger buys his insurance from AllState, as it has the big buck nigger telling this lustful whigger that itz safe in all states. –MLDL

    ============

    The key is this:

    They will identify the word “Hate” with what they see, and Marty, they will Hate you, and anyone who dares associate themselves with what you preach.

    I do not have any more time left to deal with this.

    Marty, no one cares what you think, save as an example of what NOT to do, and who NOT to be.

    Period.

    ============

    Anonymous whigger pulling a peterless-skank on us, remember that nobody knows anything about all the cowards throughout history who simply played it safe. In jewr case, it will be worse. jew’ll end up as nothing more than a pile of nigger-shit forgotten in some corner. Well, play ostrich and put jewr head up jewr ass and because you don’t see the racial realities, then jew’ll be safe. By all means, tell that hungry nigger, “I do not have any more time left to deal with this.” Perhaps if the refrigeration is out the hungry nigger will be congoidically civic minded enough to simply castrate you and then march you to market as a tenderized meat whigger.

    The hatred of whiggers . . . . why I’m scared. Why they might go to the Peter[less] Skank show blog and write some mean stuff about how I am not a very nice guy and post it for every other Dilbert whigger to see.

    C’mon Peter[less] Skank. Get a leg up on the jewry Springer Show and Oporewhore. I’ll bring you on like my pet meercat and not let any hungry, hungry congoid hippos take you home for lunch.

    New America???!!! Hah! Better name for jewrself is whiggaZOG.

    And it not over until the loser quits. And that is you, whiggaZOG.

    Pastor Martin Luther Dzerzhinsky Lindstedt
    Church of Jesus Christ Christian/Aryan Nations of Missouri
    http://www.whitenationalist.org

  84. Z.O.G. on December 7th, 2008 12:44 am

    Well, you have to admit, even if you don’t like him, MLDL is kind of entertaining. LOL :-)

  85. Pastor Martin Luther Dzerzhinsky Lindstedt on December 7th, 2008 2:17 am

    WHOSE GONNA SHOOT THEM NIGGERS 4 WHIGGAZOG???
    Outer-Space Aliens from jewrAnus?
    Mestizo Banditos jewst wetbacked in from the Border?
    Dilbertized Geek Freaks like sock-puppet jewAmeriKwa/whiggazog?
    Or Nazti, Naughty, Nazis/DSCI like Pastor Lindstedt?

    Someone wrote:

    > 3. Don’t you people have anything better to do? The economy is collapsing, the Republican Party is dead, the U.S. has a Marxist mulatto for a president, and the Jews continue to plan WWIII, and yet all you can find the time to squabble about is THIS? Get your priorities straight.you wrote:

    >If I was Joe Blo and this thread was my first exposure to white nationalism, I’d run screaming the other way.<

    jewAmeriKwa/whiggaZOG in reply:

    All too true.

    The problem is, we have not had any Plan for what to do after they take the Red Pill.

    That, in good part, is why Mathews and Lane died with their lives unfulfilled; they accepted the Enemy’s Terms and Definitions of Who they were, and What they could do.

    We DO know this:

    Christianity, and Western Civilization, MUST be the Watchwords of our Racial Future.

    =========
    jewAmeriKwa/whiggerZOG/PeterlessSkank:

    If you don’t kill what kills whiggers, then whigger civilization will be nothing more than niggershit. whiggers got to survive in order to maintain what passes for whigger ‘snivilization.’

    The White men who founded what became ZOG didn’t have a problem with putting niggers to work and killing red niggers. But you can’t have Western White Civilization unless you have White men willing to kill White Western Civilization and White Men’s enemies. And these enemies are: niggers, beaners, gooks, muds, jews — AND WHIGGERS. whiggers most of all.

    What has jewr precious Western Snivelization done for White People? Made them a minority in the world, one in our own country because of whiggers, and put us to the verge of extinction. Only whiggers love Western Snivelization because it gives them somebody that they dare feel superior to — their own whigger brothers. It gives whiggers power to be whiggers without getting their asses kickewd except by their superiors: the jews, niggers, beaners, sundry muds and lesboskanks. They don’t want a backbone because they can’t use it. They want a wishbone because they are nothing other than wankers. Great Master Debaters like Peterless Skank hiding in itz fattenfeebenuntershiessenkopfenfuerherbunker hiding with itz sock-puppet jewAmeriKwa/whiggaZOG from the aroused & pissed-off lumpenwhiggertariate wanting a refund from patridiotic virtual bangles and trinkets.

    Peterless Skank raving on and on the last hours of itz show about saving whigger snivelization for the benefit of whiggers. Evil insane racist luntics like me wanting to shut down Disneyland4whiggers by me having a “Manson Moment” and bringing the jews and niggers down on it. All about how the jews are going to cum aand drag him from his VoR bunker because of me. yada, yada, yada as the kikes would snarl.

    Piss on whigger snivelization. Save the White Race and the civilization shall take care of its own self. But whiggers can’t figure out where they want to go, much less know that they can’t get there from here. That’s because they are whiggers. And as my friend Luke LaVellian used to say, “Sheeple do things the herd way. Itz a ZOG eat dog world, don’t be one of their servile curs.”

    When LeRoi Jones and Malc XIX are about to munch whigger for lunch, itz a little bit too late to discover the joys of raw, red racism. Keep that in mind, jewAmeriKwa/whiggaZOG, sock-puppet of Peterless Skank.

    Pastor Martin Luther Dzerzhinsky Lindstedt
    Church of Jesus Christ Christian/Aryan Nations of Missouri
    http://www.whitenationalist.org

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