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Schaenk interviews Kevin MacDonald, Wed. 11/19

November 19, 2008

VoR radio host Peter Schaenk interviews Dr. Kevin MacDonald as was previously announced here!

2 hour 25 min.

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44 Responses to “Schaenk interviews Kevin MacDonald, Wed. 11/19”

  1. Howdy Doody on November 20th, 2008 1:50 am

    Excellent.

  2. Allan Hampton on November 20th, 2008 10:47 am

    So am I “dedicated to overturning the status-quo for the sake of our posterity.”

    And I ask “how”, by what “Constitutional force” can we (Americans) do that?

    The status-quo of unconstitutionality will not change until Americans force a change on government. It is government, not the People, that is unconstitutional.

    Allan

  3. European on November 20th, 2008 11:51 am

    Excellent interview. Ask the Occidental Observer to put a link up, they did the same with MCDs last interview for Radio Miss.

  4. European on November 20th, 2008 11:53 am
  5. K-Sensor on November 21st, 2008 12:21 am

    I’m not sure how any one can agree with the official Jewish WW2 holocaust story, but Kevin is right about people thinking it will topple the Jews. It can definitely allude to lying and sight of manipulation.

    I was amazed Kevin agrees there was a Holocaust in WW2. What’s his definition of Holocaust of WW2? Does he merely think it’s about the internment, or does he think there was a systematic killing plant going on?

  6. George on November 21st, 2008 12:48 am

    The playback speed is so high the audio is not understandable.

  7. Z.O.G. on November 21st, 2008 1:54 am

    Uh-oh, Kevin MacDonald thinks that the Holy Co$t was a real event?

    **********BIG RED FLAG**********

  8. New America on November 21st, 2008 2:03 am

    A wonderful program, with more to say than most might appreciate, done by two men who understand that the way out of our Racial dilemma MUST be Created and constructed by us.

    I think it was Dr. MacDonald who observed, of what I call Marx’s State Religion of Revolution, “Revolution for revolution is not for the sake of revolution; it means power for Jews.”

    EXACTLY.

    The end of all of these “Revolutions” is power for the Jewish Race, pure and simple.

    Shank’s strongest point – “You can be FOR your Family, without hating the other Family.”

    The Idea o a political organization is of the first importance; we can begin as a Movement, by adopting the most effective Universalist message – “Family FIRST.”

    After all, Race Is The Organic Extension Of The Family; as we speak of Family, we ARE speaking of Race, and THAt is an excellent starting place.

    As well, remember this:

    The most Racially segregated place in America is CHURCH, on Sunday mornings.

    A lot of useful ideas tend to flow from this.

    Again, remember:

    Palin was seen by the Republicans who voted as the Candidate from Whitelandia.

    PERIOD.

    That the Republican National Committee is getting ready to have the Black Guy, Michael Steele, as its Chairman is most of what we need to know about how loyal the Republican Party is to us.

    The rest?

    As Peter observed, the Republican policy will be to seek “young, hip Hispanics” as candidates.

    Am I the only one who realizes former Governor Jeb Bush has a nephew who seems to have been groomed as the “young, hip Hispanic candidate?”

    It’s up to us, starting where we are.

    FAMILY FIRST, FAMILY FOREMOST, FAMILY FOREVER.

  9. New America on November 21st, 2008 2:03 am

    More To Follow!

  10. roscoe on November 21st, 2008 5:13 am

    Shankus– is there any way you could interview Al Sharptin?

  11. European on November 21st, 2008 9:41 am

    @ Z.O.G.

    No, Kevin did not say that, but here is the problem with people like you: the lunatic fringe is wacko, so simple minded that a discussion with them is worthless.

    The real problem here is the mindset by some WN. The posts by “Z.O.G” is a showcase of why WN fails. Defeatist, self-destructive, cannibalistic, and just plain stupid.

    Negativity destroys and positive energy builds.

    Every revolution is based on a positive idea (even Utopian) and is for things and because of that against things.

  12. European on November 21st, 2008 9:45 am

    One has to look to the future, give people projects for the future. The obsession in WN circles with NS Germany and everything connected with is insane. Close none of them even understands German for starters!

    What will the future bring? Not the past!

    Picked up the lelow somewhere…

    —-

    Two Romans were sitting around during the decline of the Western Empire…won’t it be great..the first Roman said when the barbarians succeed in in their efforts to destroy the authority of Rome!!…Indeed said the second Roman..then WE can rebuild and mold our people into the image of Marius and the other leaders of the Old Republic!!!

    Guess what!!…It didn’t happen….you can’t go back and once broken Western culture will evolve in ways we cannot imagine from our “current” perspective..and thats the problem I see HERE
    All Idealogy..especially those of the right essentially are looking to the past for their inspiration..but the past is only a primer..not a blueprint…we live in the moment….nation state power is NOT on the table….. moving 310 million people in any political direction is like trying to turn the Titanic before it hits the ice..nearly impossible!!!…but we can build a village or a town or a city or even better a mini-state and change the world culture by engaging the enemy….at eye level

  13. Allan Hampton on November 21st, 2008 10:13 am

    Engage the Enemy? Yes indeed but the first step must be to identify the enemy. Tell me what enemy the USA Citizenry can engage and by what method, or force, to accomplish defeating that enemy?

    Allan

  14. European on November 21st, 2008 10:19 am

    Kick out your Third Reich DVD collection and buy books&DVDs on marketing, management, sociology, social engineering, etc…

    ——

    The real problem lies in the equally uncomfortable fact to which others have already alluded, that WN is for all its self conviction an outsider movement in society and as such will tend to attract the disaffected, the malcontent and assorted other social misfits, as a place and a group which allows them to express rage against the world that rejects them and to which they feel they can belong if only they pledge allegiance to the movement, and often they will pledge stronger allegiance and become more active than others to compensate for their hidden inadequacies which might otherwise betray them.

    The effect of this is to render the movement even more of a social outcast, since it will come to not be a microcosm of the general society but rather a place where social misfits are found in higher proportions than elsewhere, and that concentration of misfits will often demonstrate to the wider society the very extremism, not to mention lack of reason, which taints the WN movement in the popular mind as its voices form the predominant view and expression. This then furthers and deepens the cycle.

  15. European on November 21st, 2008 10:52 am

    @Allan Hampton

    You have close to nothing to engage with. WNs played no role during the presidential election. None.

    They aren’t on the map in the real world, mostly a cyberfreak show.

    Build a positive Movement for starters. Weed out the lunatics and build it up from nothing. All politics is local and there is where it starts.

    You want an enemy? The biggest enemy is the Movement itself as it is. That is where you start.

    You have to conquer yourself before you can start to conquer anything else.

  16. Allan Hampton on November 21st, 2008 11:43 am

    European

    Your rethoric is more harm than good. Either you simply don’t know what you are saying or you are an emeny of America and Americans.

    Americans do have the Force to correct government, the Ballot Box. Getting Americans to properly use that force is the problem.

    Allan

  17. European on November 21st, 2008 11:56 am

    Ah yes, the typical rethoric: black/white. “You are an enemy, you are a Jew” and bla bla bla.

    The ballot box is just one thing, but will not be enough since non-whites will make up more then 50% of the population by 2025.

    You can’t even get people elected in a village, let alone a president. Now, figure out why. That’s a start.

  18. Z.O.G. on November 21st, 2008 12:49 pm

    European(Edgar Steele),

    I’m listening to the Kevin MacDonald interview right now.

    MacDonald says, “I BELIEVE THE HOLOCAUST HAPPENED.”

    So you are a liar, European.

  19. Allan Hampton on November 21st, 2008 12:49 pm

    Being a Jew or a Black or a White has nothing to do with the ballot box, being an American has everything to do with it.

    Article I, Section 2, of the Constitution clearly says the People (Americans) have the Right to choose (elect/hire) Members of the House of Congress and Article I, Section 1, says only Congress can enact Legislation (federal laws). The People (Americans) have control of the Members (Lawmakers) of the House.

    It’s correct that Americans will not fire Lawmakers by not reelecting those that dishonor the Constitution’s Oath of Office; and every two years for Members of the House. But Americans, only Americans, have the power to fire them via the ballot box.

    Allan

  20. Z.O.G. on November 21st, 2008 12:55 pm

    Kevin MacDonald:

    “But I do wanna say that…that uh I’m not a Holocaust revisionist. I think that the Holocaust DID happen…(unintelligible) this immoral travesty.”

    DEAL WITH IT!

  21. New America on November 22nd, 2008 3:17 am

    in reply to European:

    You made some points in two threads.

    I’d like to merge the threads, and discuss your excellent comments.

    you wrote:

    Kick out your Third Reich DVD collection and buy books&DVDs on marketing, management, sociology, social engineering, etc…

    in reply:
    The Third Reich issue – what I call the “NSDAP Cultural Moment” – has much to commend it from the issue of social analysis, but it has been largely used as a fantasy retreat from the responsibilities before us, in which Uncle Adolph always awaits us.

    Yet, accepting those responsibilities is the key to personal and Racial effectiveness. Harold Covington’s Northwest Republic Analytical Model offers us the best Path to achieve these goals, but that’s for another time.

    you wrote:

    The real problem lies in the equally uncomfortable fact to which others have already alluded, that WN is for all its self conviction an outsider movement in society and as such will tend to attract the disaffected, the malcontent and assorted other social misfits, as a place and a group which allows them to express rage against the world that rejects them…

    in reply:
    This paragraph contains two great comments, a description and an analysis.

    The description., above, is accurate; it would be better if the WNists were Outsiders in the sense of being better, and more effective, at positive, constructive activities.

    From what I have seen, by and large, not so – particularly with those who self-identify with the extremes of WNism, which include the Skinheads and, to cite a particularly egregious example, the “musicians” who keep playing the music of Skrewdriver, and don’t Create any positive music for their Race.

    The irony is this: their Racial Heritage is that of membership in the Creative Race, and yet, they blindly follow in the footsteps of others who, if they were alive today, would do something different than what they did, and something better.

    you continued:

    …and to which they feel they can belong if only they pledge allegiance to the movement, and often they will pledge stronger allegiance and become more active than others to compensate for their hidden inadequacies which might otherwise betray them.

    in reply:
    The irony can be seen in the tragic example of the late David Lane: he went looking for “The Movement,” but that was simply a fiction.

    He SHOULD have taken the opportunity to Create and develop “The Movement,” starting with himself, starting where he was. With Robert Mathews at his side, he could – well, you fill in the blanks.

    Don’t accept any – ANY – limits in how you fill in the blanks, with the exception of the use of force against the most powerful government in the history of the world.

    If there is anything that is wrong, dumb, and doomed, THAT is it.

    Period.

    you wrote:

    The effect of this is to render the movement even more of a social outcast, since it will come to not be a microcosm of the general society but rather a place where social misfits are found in higher proportions than elsewhere, and that concentration of misfits will often demonstrate to the wider society the very extremism, not to mention lack of reason, which taints the WN movement in the popular mind as its voices form the predominant view and expression. This then furthers and deepens the cycle.

    in reply:
    I like your phrase:

    …since it will come to not be a microcosm of the general society but rather a place where social misfits are found in higher proportions than elsewhere,…

    This is EXACTLY right.

    They want to be a “microcosm of a BETTER society.”

    If these “social misfits” were “misfits” in the sense of Ford, Tesla, you get the idea, so much the better.

    in reply to Allan Hampton you wrote:

    You have close to nothing to engage with. WNs played no role during the presidential election. None.

    They aren’t on the map in the real world, mostly a cyberfreak show.

    Build a positive Movement for starters. Weed out the lunatics and build it up from nothing. All politics is local and there is where it starts.

    You want an enemy? The biggest enemy is the Movement itself as it is. That is where you start.

    You have to conquer yourself before you can start to conquer anything else.

    in reply:
    These are really insightful points.

    The key to effectiveness is to BUILD a better “Movement,” starting where they are.

    They MUST accept this:

    Uncle Adolph isn’t coming back, and Sky God Pierce and Sky God Rockwell aren’t coming back to live their lives for them, either.

    It’s Up To Them, and that – THAT – is THE key to personal power and personal effectiveness.

  22. European on November 22nd, 2008 10:59 am

    @Z.O.G.

    The holocaust = persecution of Jews. That is what the holocaust is in the perception of the masses.

    Historical revisionism does not deny they were persecuted. It is a matter of numbers and methods.

    So, denying the holocaust is not an option. Historical revisionism (a winner in the LONG run) is nothing political movements should pick up an certainly not those running for office.

    KMC is basically saying (just like PS) that we need to address issues that are relevant today.

  23. Allan Hampton on November 22nd, 2008 11:22 am

    Jews thrive and grow rich on persecution and have done so for centuries. The final result of talking about Jews only helps them continue their swindle and enslavement of mankind and Americans cannot do a damn thing to a Jew or the whole tribe of them. Jews know that and why don’t you?

    What Americans can do is “Fire” (not reelect) USA Lawmakers that aid and abet the Jew. The Jew could not enslave Americans without the aid of Congress.

    Allan

  24. Z.O.G. on November 22nd, 2008 10:27 pm

    European,

    WRONG.

    The Holocaust = “6 million Jews were killed in ‘gas chambers’ by the evil Notzees.”

    Get it straight, dummy.

  25. Z.O.G. on November 22nd, 2008 10:29 pm

    European,

    You say that the Jews were “persecuted”, whatever that means. This is a term that the Jews themselves constantly use to obtain sympathy for themselves from the masses whenever someone dares to tell the truth about the Jews and their crimes.

    Oy vey, the poisecution!

  26. Z.O.G. on November 22nd, 2008 10:30 pm

    Kevin MacDonald: “But I do wanna say that…that uh I’m not a Holocaust revisionist. I think that the Holocaust DID happen…(unintelligible) this immoral travesty.”

    LOL :-D

  27. Mike Conner on November 23rd, 2008 12:58 pm

    Let me get this straight. The KMac interview discusses the caustic effect of organized Jewish power in depth for more than two hours, and the only thing you get out of it is that KMac doesn’t denounce the “Holocaust” Industry in the exact terms you would prefer to use? Advocating any tactics other than your tactics is a “big red flag”? I hate to say it, but you are a very simple-minded fellow. I feel sorry for you.

  28. Allan Hampton on November 23rd, 2008 2:14 pm

    Well Mike, what do you suggest Americans do to or about Jews and their agenda?

    Allan

  29. New America on November 23rd, 2008 7:17 pm

    in reply to Allan Hampton:

    Again, we are falling into Wordist (see nationalsalvation DOT net) tricks, and are falling on our face before we get to the damn front door.

    KMac discussed the tools and techniques of Jewish RACIAL practices, and this seems to require a bit of abstract thinking to be able to understand, and deal with in a constructive manner.

    Addressing “the Holocaust” is simply getting caught in a trap set for us by our Racial enemies, as it does not gain us one step forward, other than to demonstrate how masterfully the Myth Making Jews Create the Myth, and – this is what matters – RUTHLESSLY enforce their version of Reality.

    One example – using the term “THE Holocaust,” as if this was the only “Holocaust” in the history of the world.

    Ah, but to the Jews, this is THEIR “Holocaust,” and to make it OURS, as well, it must be THE Holocaust.

    Then. they charge one and all money, and, much more important, moral capital, that is used to portray the Jews as morally superior to the rest of us.

    What makes discussing “THE Holocaust” a quagmire of KMac is he then spends all of his time of defense – HOW many, WHERE, HOW, etc., ad infinitum – and none of his time moving the ball forward, down the field.

    The Jews send their scrubs in with their well-rehearsed and practice attacks on any critique of THEIR version of “THE Holocaust,” while the A-Team Jews continue attacking our society on all possible levels with greater intensity.

    We should follow their example, as a matter of masterful technique. If he hits the switch, the lights go on, for the best of us, and for the rest of us.

    We bitch about the switch – and the light never goes on.

    No, what to do about it.

    Simple.

    Look at what the Jews are doing FOR themselves, and DO THAT, for ourselves.

    Simple as that.

    In debt?

    Get out.

    Public schools?

    Home schooling – and, in time, Church-sited schools, just like the Jews, with their Torah Academies and Talmudical Academies.

    Start Where You Are.

    Blaming the Jews is one thing, and should only be done for the purpose of seeing how they have become the most profitable, best educated, and most politically powerful RACE in America – ALL done, as Peter reminds us, without firing a shot.

    Western Civilization IS Civilization.

    Civilization is not just a state, it is a process that has Chrsit at its foundation, and its living center.

    We are not going to do better than the Jews by accepting their terms, definitions, and framing of the situation.

    We are going to defeat them by doing better, organizing around uniquely Christian solutions.

    Remember – the only religion the Jews fear is Christianity, and the only Race the Jews fear is the White Race, because we can go where they can’t.

    Let them have the mud, the blood, and the waste; all I can offer to my Posterity is “Honor, Discipline, and the Stars.”

    Kevin Alfred Strom did a great piece for Pierce/ADV almost twenty years ago, called “Toward The Stars.”

    It might be useful to have someone – perhaps someone with an educated, Feminine voice, like Briseis – do it again.

    We settle for much less than we are capable of, and that has to stop.

  30. Allan Hampton on November 24th, 2008 7:53 am

    Jews do not make laws is the USA, they have Congress do it, yet Jews do not hire a single Congressmen. Only the USA Citizenry (People) hire (elect) USA Lawmakers.

    Allan

  31. European on November 24th, 2008 3:50 pm

    @Z.O.G.

    I wrote: in the perception of the masses.

    The “details” are not relevant to them,.

    I might ad that historical revisionism would be more widely accepted if it wasn’t for the lunatic fringe who pinned their flag to it.

    What they are saying (in their usual violent rhetoric) is:
    1. I did not happen, nothing happened.
    2. I should have happened.
    3. We will make it happen.

    Historical revisionists are a mixed bag as well. Libertarians, extreme left, nationalists, non whites, Jews, etc… Let them do their thing without interference of political groups.

  32. K-Sensor on November 27th, 2008 5:27 pm

    OBAMA: HIGH PRIEST OF THE RELIGIOUS LEFT

    By Harmony Grant

    Pundits rejoice that the reign of the “religious right” is over. The Bush administration is accused of using government to push religious dogmas—something Obama will never do, of course. Those who demand “church/state separation” especially exult, but a majority of Americans also celebrate Obama’s victory.

    Yet Obama will enforce his own “religion” from the White House. Beliefs will still be pushed, metaphysical claims endorsed. Obama did not run on a platform of limited government, individual rights, and maximum individual freedom. No, his entire campaign exalts the idea of a progressive, multiracial nation sewn together by a government which will not tolerate hate or bias.

    Whose hate or bias, you ask? Thanks for asking. That’s the problem. One man’s backwoods bias is another’s abomination. And if you haven’t read the Federalist Papers, I can assure you that the realm of beliefs is supposed to be a hands-off zone for lawmakers in DC.

    If Barack Obama had run on a platform of restricted government and maximum individual freedom—an agenda created by none other than our Founding Fathers—then this truly would be a time of change. But it isn’t. His “progressive” agenda is just as faith-based, and far more dangerous, than anything of which our current President is accused.

    Barack Obama’s “religion” is the religion of social elites who want to engineer a perfect society. Its main believers espouse the Jewish concept of “tikkun olam,” or “repairing the world.” They believe fundamental aspects of human nature can be manipulated to, among other things, equalize the genders, races, and nations—and that this should be done as soon as possible. To do this they must outlaw various beliefs and value statements that many people, especially traditionally religious people, firmly embrace. But that in itself is a value statement. It is a belief system.

    This is where “anti-hate” laws come in. Ultimately, they don’t just create new categories of crime and crime victims. They are used to silence words even when a violent crime is not attached. That’s the precedent from Europe, Canada and Australia. Concocted by the same Jewish activists who leap on any Christian involvement in government, this is the ultimate witch’s brew of church/state mingling.

    Determining proper moral beliefs about society and God is the role of priests and prophets. It is a religious endeavor that requires metaphysical claims and leaps of faith. Obama’s administration comes fully equipped with politically correct religious claims based on humanist faith and rejection of traditionalist religion. These claims are incredibly more popular than traditional “fundamentalism” with blue state and urbanized Americans. Thank you, powerful leftist media and culture. But humanist claims’ popularity doesn’t make them any more true or certain. Indeed, they may be far less true or certain than the traditional response to homosexuality, teen sex, nationalism, abortion, or other contentious topics. Either way, these are questions about which priests—not prosecutors—should make definitive statements. And no one, neither priest nor prophet, should be allowed to silence those who disagree.

    The most dangerous comingling of church and state in our day doesn’t come from evangelicals. It comes from liberal elitists who believe their “secular” grip on reality is so certain it can’t be classified as religious. Elitists like our new President believe the dogmas of anti-racism, anti-homophobia, anti-sexism, anti-anti-Semitism, etc. are so certain that people should be made to observe them. Elites see these as non-religious necessities for a united, progressive society.

    The most dangerous religion is the one that can convince people it’s something else. And that religion is about to move into the White House.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Harmony Grant writes and edits for National Prayer Network, a Christian/conservative watchdog group.

  33. K-Sensor on November 28th, 2008 1:34 pm

    I’ve been thinking a lot about Kevin MacDonald’s attitude and I have to say I don’t trust him, well I can’t trust anyone that sees their own survival paramount. He says he’s a Survival of the Fittest, believer.

    Someone not connected to their people is connected to fiscal and material outcomes. They will sell out or betray if they gain in a situation. They will steal your wife if they can. They will leave you in the bleeding in a gutter when there’s a box of treasure to grab in a war situation, etc.

    Now Kevin may have a history of supporting the European people, but his base ideals are very questionable.

    I find it also hard to trust someone that is constantly joking, which he says is his persona is too.

    He maybe a good guy whilst the going is good.

  34. K-Sensor on November 28th, 2008 1:45 pm

    SORRY WRONG GUY. I WAS MEANING TOM METZGER.

    PLEASE DELETE ABOVE.

  35. roscoe on November 28th, 2008 3:26 pm

    Tom Metzger is a Freemason

  36. Allan Hampton on November 28th, 2008 4:29 pm

    Harmony ,

    “that religion is about to move into the White House”

    What religion do you suggest move into the White House?

    Allan

  37. Allan Hampton on November 28th, 2008 4:46 pm

    Harmony,

    Your rap on Obama caused me to ask the above question. I suppose all “good” Christians would vote for McCain; those good Christians that support the U.S. government criminal act of funding and arming that little terrorist country Israel for 60 years.

    The U.S. government is by Law, the Constitution, forbidden any power in any religion and any American that supports a government act in the name of religion is aiding & abetting in a criminal act.

    Allan

  38. European on December 8th, 2008 3:22 pm

    Link is up it seems… Site to bookmark..

    Occidental Observer (NEW URL!)
    http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/

    Video/Audio
    Peter Schaenk interviews Kevin MacDonald, 11/19/08

  39. Skeeter on January 14th, 2009 3:42 am

    On the nature of Jews and Judaism Kevin MacDonald is close to dead on, but I think he exaggerates the amount of affection white gentile ruling/cultural elites have had for whites outside of their class throughout history.

  40. New America on January 14th, 2009 3:37 pm

    in reply to Kevin:

    you wrote:

    On the nature of Jews and Judaism Kevin MacDonald is close to dead on, but I think he exaggerates the amount of affection white gentile ruling/cultural elites have had for whites outside of their class throughout history.

    in reply:
    I agree, and I think this is because, given the controversy that follows him, he wants to avoid the accusations of an analysis based on “class,” and “class warfare.”

    The irony, as I am sure you will recognize, that is MacDonald will be accused of adopting a Marxist perspective, that is, the perspective of the most powerful Jew in the last two hundred years.

    A bit of irony in that!

  41. Hektor on March 25th, 2009 12:31 pm

    @ Z.O.G.

    I’m afraid not everyone sees it that accurate and straight then you put it: “6 million Jews were killed in ‘gas chambers’ by the evil Notzees.”

    Or what about this peace:
    http://www.vho.org/tr/2002/1/tr09happened.html

  42. Skeeter on May 31st, 2009 4:56 pm

    MacDonald’s evolutionary analysis of Jews and Judaism is very interesting.

    But what’s with the race babysitting–I mean, white nationalist ideology that accompanies it?

  43. Stephen Smith on June 21st, 2009 4:10 am

    To those concerned about Professor MacDonald’s comments on the “holocaust,” don’t sweat it. He cannot explicitly deny the “holocaust” without violating Jew speech and thought control laws in Europe and Canada. If he were to dispute the conventional lies surrounding the “holocaust,” he would be arrested if he were ever to travel to Europe.

    I’m quite sure Professor MacDonald is well aware what a lie the “holocaust” is, but he’d end up in a European prison if he were ever to speak the truth on this issue.

  44. maverick on July 31st, 2009 6:12 pm

    the idea that the Pro-Isreal lobby is all powerful is passe and well out of date.The anti-Israel lobby is becoming more powerful by the day and that is absolutely clear in the European union and will become more so in the U.S.A. despite the supposed influence of Jews in the Obama administration
    Jews in the west outside Israel are the main proponents of Multi-culturism in the west ,but like Frankenstien they have created a monster that will eventually destroy them in the name of Islam.

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