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Schaenk: War of Perception, Thu. 10/16

October 16, 2008

VoR radio host Peter Schaenk discusses the war for civilization and the under-handed techniques used by the enemy. Also on the show, hear all the news and “This Day In History”.

1 hour 34 min.

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103 Responses to “Schaenk: War of Perception, Thu. 10/16”

  1. Mr. Pagan on October 16th, 2008 10:49 pm

    My commentary on the 10/16 Shaenk show:

    I loved what you said about internet porn Pete. No truer words can be said about that affliction. Thank you for bringing it up. There are many white people that can’t focus on what is right because of that madness. You might want to dedicate a show to the “Jews behind Porn”. I posted some material on VNN about that subject (written by jews btw) on VNN a few months back. Excellent, excellent commentary though. Kudos Peter!

    You’re a musician? I’m guessing you are a bassist? What bands did you play in?

    Again, I have many friends. Protestant, Catholic, Mormon and even Isreali colleagues. And they are all good people. But not a single one of them can intellectually fathom the war on perception.
    From the so called “guys that should side with us” to “those that should not”, each and every one of them denies these facts outright. I mean I would at least feel a bit of satisfaction if the
    Isreali folks would admit to it. But they are just like the average patriotard. The only jewish guy that I’ve been able to have a meaningful conversation with is Dr. Norman Finkelstein
    (http://www.normanfinkelstein.com/). So the problem of “Perception” is a HUGE factor (if not the main one). Man you nailed it there Pete!

    As far as voting. Who are you voting for? I guess I’m going to be relegated to Nader… :(

    So now from about 33:00 on, well, you went a bit overboard. There is no “Sh__ storm”, no “dog fight”, etc. I don’t know what that is all about. We are just trying to carry on some discussion ok? Those that say you’re a jew, jew this, jew that, are idiots. Let’s just stick to the issues ok? Screw the detractors.

    My point is when you attack Pagans or Atheists, we are not supposed to reply? That is Nonsense! We are as committed to our mindset as you are! Why do you persist in your rhetoric against us?

    We are not at war with you for discussing the issues OR opposing your position Peter! That assertion needs to stop! Anyway, I cannot debate with you if you persist on nonsensical paradigms for your
    side of the argument…

    The single-sided stance that Christian ethics is “the end all” is nutzpah. As is the idea of the “noble savage” as supposedly being what pagans stand for. And YOU KNOW IT. Yet you want to go on by not ADDRESSING THE FACTS that many of us have stated in past posts on this blog.

    Did you bring up my mention of the pagan roots of Christianity, or Dietrichs comments? No. That is just Weak. I tell you, you should.
    There is a lot of commentary that we should discuss. _Ignoring_it_will_not_make_it_go_away_ Peter.

    BTW, Christianity has only been a major influence for a little over the last millenium. To be sure, Western Civilization was by and large Christian-founded (many sects of it, which you don’t mention
    either) during that time. But by no means the last 2000 years. And Civilization, which was created by whites (in the west), was done so a LOT longer than 1000 years (starting with Sumeria) ago! And
    guess what? IT WAS ALL PAGAN! And you failed to mention my take on the pagan roots of your bible also, so what is that all about?

    So then you go on: “..So to say people are good or bad because they are white or black is a complete idiotic statement..”. I’m guessing that you are trying to trump Linders assertion that Whites are superior because of race. Well, THEY ARE. Don’t try and paint the argument with tidbits of “I knew this guy or gal and they were civilized”. “Oh I met a few black people that are ok”. Well, so have the rest of us my friend.

    This rhetoric is what the Subie Sisters, Alex Jones, and DBS say. Which is why I don’t waste my time listening to their shows. You know darn well that we are talking about generalities. And you youself have quoted black crime statistics in the past. It isn’t because they don’t have “Jesus” or “Yoruba” or whatever in their heart. It has nothing to do with belief! So you need to come to grips with that mister.

    It is BECAUSE they are savage animals, more akin to Homo Erectus (GENETICALLY). Linder is completely
    CORRECT when he says IT IS A GENETIC ISSUE. And you are wrong my friend. You need to take off the religious spectacles to see it from a scientific aspect. Which I am glad to say, from time to time, I can. That is what science affords you my friend.

    Now, I’m still a pagan. More so because I strongly believe, archaeologically, that our ancient ways, even if for folklore sakes, should not be forgotten. If you can’t even handle that or the FACT that Jesus was A JEW (To use your own words back on you: “Any Historian worth his salt!..”), I just don’t know how I can talk sense into you…

    Arguementing that the “Race cannot be the sole determining factor”!!!!!! YOU ARE ON THE WRONG RADIO FREQUENCY! Who put you on this show?!?! And, “I’m not a WN” – Dude, ok, now you are starting to sound like Bill White.

    (next) WOW, we have really lost cabin pressure now. I had to turn off the feed….

    I’m done with this nutcase. He stinks of those he so-called “outs”. He cherry-picks peoples posts to weave a line of lies and deception. More like the ” War with Reality” is what this show is.

    - Mr. Pagan

  2. katman on October 16th, 2008 11:14 pm

    Again, I have many friends. Protestant, Catholic, Mormon and even Isreali colleagues<<<

    oh so you do have israeli colleagues??? well that is interesting. can you explain to me why they would want to talk to you. seems like everytime a jew hears what i have to say, they get all pissy……

  3. katman on October 16th, 2008 11:28 pm

    My point is when you attack Pagans or Atheists, we are not supposed to reply? That is Nonsense! We are as committed to our mindset as you are! Why do you persist in your rhetoric against us?

    are the pagans and the atheist one big happy family?

  4. katman on October 16th, 2008 11:29 pm

    I’m done with this nutcase. He stinks of those he so-called “outs”. He cherry-picks peoples posts to weave a line of lies and deception. More like the ” War with Reality” is what this show is.<<<<

    fine, does this mean you are leaving now?

  5. maurice on October 16th, 2008 11:43 pm

    about “Jesus was A JEW”, another view point:
    (…) Nowadays, of course, we have a distinct word for these renegade Judaeans: Jews. This term denotes members of the Christ-rejecting, Bible-nullifying religion of the followers of the Talmud and Kabbalah, the spiritual descendants of the Pharisees. However, the Sacred Scriptures themselves never speak of Jews. The Greek word used is always ioudaioi (Latin iudaei). As far as we know, the English word Jew was first coined by the 14th century heretic John Wycliffe. He spelt it iewe. It was finally standardised as Jew in 1775 (in Sheridan’s play The Rivals). Clearly English Bible translations should always translate the Greek word ioudaios correctly as Judaean, never by the late bastard term Jew. (…) http://www.catholicvoice.co.uk/

  6. maurice on October 16th, 2008 11:44 pm

    about “Jesus was A JEW”, another view point:
    (…) Nowadays, of course, we have a distinct word for these renegade Judaeans: Jews. This term denotes members of the Christ-rejecting, Bible-nullifying religion of the followers of the Talmud and Kabbalah, the spiritual descendants of the Pharisees. However, the Sacred Scriptures themselves never speak of Jews. The Greek word used is always ioudaioi (Latin iudaei). As far as we know, the English word Jew was first coined by the 14th century heretic John Wycliffe. He spelt it iewe. It was finally standardised as Jew in 1775 (in Sheridan’s play The Rivals). Clearly English Bible translations should always translate the Greek word ioudaios correctly as Judaean, never by the late bastard term Jew. (…) http://www.catholicvoice.co.uk/

  7. Howdy Doody on October 17th, 2008 12:01 am

    The last time our rights were slightly inforce was when the jooish radicals in the sixties used it, and then the thugs who went after NIxon, who know the truth, but gave them the Kitchen sink in 1973.

  8. Mr. Pagan on October 17th, 2008 12:23 am

    Why do I have Isreali colleagues….? Because I work for an international corporation you idiot. I never said I like it.

    Man, talk about an open tard-trap. You fell for that one didn’t you? I need to remember that one next time. It worked like catfish bait on the “katman”.

    Do yourself a favor and make meaningful posts ok? You’re wasting our time. Either debate the real topics or come out of the closet. Don your yarmulke honestly for the rest of us to see.

  9. Mr. Pagan on October 17th, 2008 12:26 am

    Maurice,

    Are you saying in all honesty at the time of Christ, that Christ himself was not a jew? I just need some clarity there. Because if that is the case I would really like to hear more. If it is the case it stands ball-faced in almost a thousand years of our historic legend. So I really want to hear this.

    - MP

  10. Mr. Pagan on October 17th, 2008 12:33 am

    “fine, does this mean you are leaving now?”

    Yeah. It does. Free speech with retards is a forum for the insane. I’m going back to VNN forum. I’ve already deleted my links to this nutzpah site.

    Have fun with Shankenberg. Together with thecnsp.com you should be able to forge ahead with a real recipe that will save us when the rapture comes! Have fun with that one dude. Give John Hagee my regards…..

  11. maurice on October 17th, 2008 12:35 am

    Mr. Pagan (hope not forever…), please read the text in the link. Is more a matter of what means this term “jew”. Of course Christ was a “judean”, or also a “semite” I think. But “jew” has another connotation. I’m not familiar with these researches, please read the complete text.
    Regards.

  12. Howdy Doody on October 17th, 2008 12:42 am
  13. katman on October 17th, 2008 12:46 am

    Why do I have Isreali colleagues….? Because I work for an international corporation you idiot. I never said I like it.

    Man, talk about an open tard-trap. You fell for that one didn’t you? I need to remember that one next time. It worked like catfish bait on the “katman”.

    Do yourself a favor and make meaningful posts ok? You’re wasting our time. Either debate the real topics or come out of the closet. Don your yarmulke honestly for the rest of us to see.<<<

    man , I love the way this guy talks.

  14. katman on October 17th, 2008 1:07 am

    Maurice,

    Are you saying in all honesty at the time of Christ, that Christ himself was not a jew? I just need some clarity there. Because if that is the case I would really like to hear more. If it is the case it stands ball-faced in almost a thousand years of our historic legend. So I really want to hear this.<<<<

    why do you care? according to you, He never did exist. I have no problem with that belief. You are entitled to it. But i fail to see why my whiteness has to be gauged according to how far back I wish to worry about my pagan ancestors. What does this have to do with the here and now? Tell you what Peter, you see what kind of people are involved in the white movement and you wonder why the main stream is turned off by it. The business of winning the hearts and minds of the American people must be done in a most careful method. The title of this network is the voice of reason. Reason does not have anything to do with pagans, sorry about that mr pagan. I hate to tell you that. You can continue to live in your own little dream world if you wish, but the mainstream of white America does not understand your tiny minority belief system. To be blunt it is silly and a waste of time to even discuss it. So much to do and so little time and here we are reading this nonsense by this self aggrandizing piece of human debree. Now he says he is going back to VNN. Somehow I think that is a lie just like most of his little boring routine. I am glad he works at some international corporation or he would be camped out here all the time, arguing and pontificating on the wonders of being a pagan…:)

    but what we can do at this time is chock up another one for peter shank’s fan club. the more he talks, the more famous he gets……..

  15. Mike Mathis on October 17th, 2008 1:33 am

    Can I work as a mediator between Mr. Pagan and Peter Shaenk? I’m an Atheist but I believe that both of you are out of line. Christianity was once a very masculine faith when White men would fight and die to defend Jesus Christ and Christ’s word against the enemy. The crusades for example is not a time period we should be ashamed of.

    However, Peter is wrong in wanting to completely reject what the Pagans accomplished: ancient Greece, ancient Rome are a part of our White history just as much as Charlemagne.

    To Mr. Pagan and Peter, can’t the two of you find a way to meet in the middle and work together for the improvement of western civilization?

  16. Mike Mathis on October 17th, 2008 1:35 am

    Mr. Pagan was out of line and a bit too hysterical to be reasoned with.

  17. Mr. Pagan on October 17th, 2008 2:16 am

    Maurice,

    I agree with you. But I’m pissed off when people say nonesense. It’s Iike I am arguing with a reanimated corpse. At least that would argue intelligently with fortitude.

    If I am wrong about faith then so be it. I’ll admit to it. I’m not an acolyte (not that I’ve never been one, that aside, we’ve all been one, but this is serious talk) that knows nothing of what he says.

    I guess that at this point a free forum to discuss these topics without casting aspersions with respect to faith is beyond the pale. So be it.

    That aside, the bigger issues are really a waste of time are’nt they?. Why Shaenk insists on going about this is beyond me. Life isn’t seen though “Shaenk googles”. Thought I respect much of his opinion, but not his nutzpah.

    But yeah, I deleted all links to this site. I just have better things to do. My efforts are better spent on other things than arguing these outdated standponts. You guys have fun with it though. Make us proud.

    I hold no ill will to Mr. Shaenk or the rest of you, none at all. Keep up the good work. I’m working on launching my own blog and radio show. So that should materialize by mid-november. It will have a ton of stuff on it that WN sites fail miserably to cover.

    And it will be ENTIRELY the truth. No dogma. It won’t be a jew filter. That is for certain. Science, Paganry or Christianity, which ever is the truth so be it. Let the swath of the destiny determine it!

    - MP

  18. roscoe on October 17th, 2008 2:17 am

    maurice– refer to Plot pg 218 at top.

  19. Mr. Pagan on October 17th, 2008 2:19 am

    Mike Mathis I wish you well. Have fun with this forum. They are good people.

  20. roscoe on October 17th, 2008 2:20 am

    There are more than a few Judaics who will deny that Jesus was one of them.

  21. roscoe on October 17th, 2008 2:27 am

    Where does mr Pagan get the idea that science is irreconcilable with Christianity?

  22. roscoe on October 17th, 2008 3:37 am

    Hitler was a Judaic– do not be deceived as he persecuted Catholic Church so bad that he threw Pius XII into hands of Commies( Allies) He is resp for murder of Dolfuss who had the goods on him being a judaic. Viva Il Papa

  23. Z.O.G. on October 17th, 2008 3:51 am

    The Catholic Church is a glorified Sun cult that practices idol worship and voodoo rituals.

    Stick that in your pipe and smoke it. ;-)

  24. K-Sensor on October 17th, 2008 4:48 am

    Peter, you should seriously consider installing Kubuntu. A free operating system for your computer. It maintains settings! It’s near zero virus or spyware attacked.

    The problem with Windows is that many commercial developers aim applications toward user-friendly/new-user level. That is why software and Windows itself, will change settings based on its own determinations, or defaults. Security is another issue that has made Windows return modes that you may find unwanted.

    Kubuntu has a program called Adept which allow you to install software easy. It has a repository of thousands of software you pick and it does all the work in making it install and work. All the software is free. Use OpenOffice, Skype, Firefox, etc.

    The only problem is Windows software wont work, but you can install a program called Wine which allows you to execute most Windows software. So it wouldn’t be guaranteed that you purchased software for Windows would run on Linux-Kubuntu.

    Try it on a spare computer! http://www.kubuntu.com

  25. K-Sensor on October 17th, 2008 4:50 am

    Obama supporters are already saying they will riot if they lose.

  26. K-Sensor on October 17th, 2008 4:58 am

    You want to download :Kubuntu 8.04 – Featuring KDE, 32bit version.

    Peter I agree about the inability to return to paganism.

    The fact is technology is something people can’t avoided, or least they be over taken by someone more advanced. Yes paganism is uncivilised becuase it lacks Law, due to the fittest survives and sets the rules around them.

  27. K-Sensor on October 17th, 2008 5:02 am
  28. maurice on October 17th, 2008 7:28 am

    roscoe, I don’t have the printed book in english – which the chapter?

  29. Bob in DC on October 17th, 2008 12:07 pm

    Peter:

    Your computer problem is common. About every one to two years a PC must be reconfigured … from scratch .. to maintain top performance. This means formatting the Hard Drive and re-installing everything. A real PIA … but necessary. (Per Computer Tech Guy)

    Best wishes,
    Bob

  30. katman on October 17th, 2008 12:31 pm
  31. katman on October 17th, 2008 12:32 pm
  32. katman on October 17th, 2008 12:44 pm

    Peter, you put into words what I was thinking. Why is it that a white man in the year of 2008, should listen to discussions concerning my pagan past, in order to try and find myself. I knew my grandfathers quite well. They were Christian men who meant what they said and said what they meant. They were men of integrity and honesty and when they gave you their word , it was as good as gold. For a contract, all that was needed was a handshake and you could forget about it. I have to apologize to the pagans and the atheist, but i am sorry , I would much more closely align myself with the white men of a hundred years ago than i could ever be apart of anything people like mr pagan or the atheist or alex linder are saying right now. White culture has nothing to do with the points they are espousing. The modern white man, needs a lot of things, but one thing he doesn’t need. He doesn’t need to have to listen to esoteric discussions of my pagan past, discussing genetic issues. How far we have come now. Should we devolve back to our pagan past in order to be strong again or shall we find other ways? This is why i stay as far away from the white only websites these days. i just simply do not understand them, nor do i truely support their viewpoints. To leave out the God of my fathers in any discussion is simply inexcusable and will not be tolerated by me at this point in my life. God is a part of everything that goes on, there can be no denying this. Peter, i for one am glad that you have positioned yourself in the middle. This attack on you, is not because of your political viewpoints. The attack is a religious one and i think you know this. If we will not stand for something, then we will fall for anything. We must stand in the gap. There is no other way.

  33. katman on October 17th, 2008 12:51 pm

    roscoe or maurice

    what do you think this means?

    Revelation 7

    1And after these things I saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree.

    2And I saw another angel ascending from the east, having the seal of the living God: and he cried with a loud voice to the four angels, to whom it was given to hurt the earth and the sea,

    3Saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads.

    4And I heard the number of them which were sealed: and there were sealed an hundred and forty and four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel.

    5Of the tribe of Juda were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Reuben were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Gad were sealed twelve thousand.

    6Of the tribe of Aser were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Nephthalim were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Manasses were sealed twelve thousand.

    7Of the tribe of Simeon were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Levi were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Issachar were sealed twelve thousand.

    8Of the tribe of Zabulon were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Joseph were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Benjamin were sealed twelve thousand.

    9After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands;

    10And cried with a loud voice, saying, Salvation to our God which sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb.

    11And all the angels stood round about the throne, and about the elders and the four beasts, and fell before the throne on their faces, and worshipped God,

    12Saying, Amen: Blessing, and glory, and wisdom, and thanksgiving, and honour, and power, and might, be unto our God for ever and ever. Amen.

    13And one of the elders answered, saying unto me, What are these which are arrayed in white robes? and whence came they?

    14And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.

    15Therefore are they before the throne of God, and serve him day and night in his temple: and he that sitteth on the throne shall dwell among them.

    16They shall hunger no more, neither thirst any more; neither shall the sun light on them, nor any heat.

    17For the Lamb which is in the midst of the throne shall feed them, and shall lead them unto living fountains of waters: and God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes.

  34. Z.O.G. on October 17th, 2008 3:22 pm

    The reason why many White Nationalists have lost any affinity for Christianity is because Christianity has turned into nothing more than a socio-political tool of the Jews. That’s all it is at this point.

    You guys don’t seem to recognize this fact.

  35. katman on October 17th, 2008 4:56 pm

    The reason why many White Nationalists have lost any affinity for Christianity is because Christianity has turned into nothing more than a socio-political tool of the Jews. That’s all it is at this point.

    You guys don’t seem to recognize this fact.<<<

    well zog,

    what is your definition of Christianity?

    many white nationalist have lost any affinity for Christianity because they never knew what it was anyway. In Psalms 62 we see :

    6 He only is my rock and my salvation:
    he is my defense; I shall not be moved.

    7 In God is my salvation and my glory:
    the rock of my strength, and my refuge, is in God.

    8 Trust in him at all times;
    ye people, pour out your heart before him:
    God is a refuge for us.

    you know zog, you can’t always conveniently blame the jews for everything. We are all guilty before God for our sins. The jews may have helped out in this matter, but we have free will to chose and chose we do. Many white nationalist perhaps lost their ability to know God because they never knew God in the first place. The Rock of Salvation never moves. When you leave it, and come back to it, it is always there where it was when you left it.

    In another verse in Psalms 118:22 we see this ……The stone which the builders refused is become the head stone of the corner.

    What was the writer talking about ? Jesus Christ of course. This was written over a thousand years before the birth of Christ. There are many verses in the Old Testament that testify to His coming.

    The more I talk with patriotards and white nationalist, the more I see the total lack of understanding of the Biblical text and Christianity. I guess, as a child of church going parents , and myself being raised in the Bible belt of the deep south, sometimes I take it for granted that others have been raised in a similar manner. But now we see the children of those who have left God now, and they are as their parents were, ignorant of the things of God. You can believe me or not zog, its up to you, but believe me when i say this. it is in the best interest of the satanic one world order jews, that you and as many others as possible remain confused about eternity and the things of Christianity. It is even written in the protocols of zion that one of their goals is to seperate the goyim from God and so far they are doing a splendid and everything is proceeding according to plan. zog, everything boils down to one thing in this life. Was Jesus Christ who He said He was or not? That is the question for the ages. Remember, the battle is not just a physical one, but a spiritual battle.

    for this we see this in verse Ephesians 6:12

    For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

    In ancient Rome if someone turned you in for being a Christian, the judge at the trial would ask you…….Are you a Christian?…and the answer to this quesition in the affirmative, would mean immediate death.

    So zog, many white people are fools for Christ. I am and always will be. No amount of discussion about my pagan ancestors will change this.

  36. Zelea on October 17th, 2008 5:15 pm

    Amen.

  37. Dietrich on October 17th, 2008 5:19 pm

    “Where does mr Pagan get the idea that science is irreconcilable with Christianity?”

    Heh.

    Oh, you weren’t kidding? 0_o

  38. roscoe on October 17th, 2008 5:22 pm

    maurice–top of pg 218 says

    ‘One thus sees that even in those days, the division was very clear; on the one side the supporters of the Apostles ie the Christians and on the other the Jews.

    “The New Testament already makes use in these books of the word Jews in order to describe the ancient chosen people who murdered God’s Son……’

    The doctrine of Holy Church says that Jesus was decended on his mothers side from the tribe of Judah. Does this make him a ‘jew’ in terms of how we recognise these people today– it certainly does not.

    Is anyone watching CNN?…… Acc to them there are ‘racists’ EVERY WHERE. Almost every story is about hate filled white people and effigys of Obomba with the ‘star of “David’ tatooed on his head. They are asking …Is this really free speech??

  39. Dietrich on October 17th, 2008 5:37 pm

    “Yes paganism is uncivilised becuase it lacks Law, due to the fittest survives and sets the rules around them.”

    This is why you guys can’t get any traction in any of these discussions. I think you all confuse Pagainism with pre-historic barbarity. I’m sad to say that this is pure ignorance, so much so because not only do you not know–you don’t want to know.

    I know that anti-intellectualism is at the crux of any system of faith by its very nature, but seriously, try following in the great tradition of St. Jerome, Hume, Augustin, and more by thinking. You *do* know that Rome’s gold and silver ages were both pre-Christian, right? Right? They were Pagan but weren’t exactly eating one another. You do know that the mass acceptance of Christianity basically caused a millennium-long dark age, right? For crying out loud, you do sound like a gaggle of heebs telling us how before Jewish influence we were eating our own babies.

    OTOH, recognising the law of “survival of the fittest” (it’s not like we came up w/ it) is healthy for all who has the courage to do so. Shunning what is simply because it doesn’t fit with everything else is weak and too obviously under the yoke of the (Christian) slave mentality. In other words, survival of the fittest just is–whether we like it or not. Those who will not recognise it are failing because they *want* to, and this is because they identify with the wrong side of the fit/not fit equation, even if there’s no reason for them to do so. Christianity teaches one to identify as and with the weak, as do all other eastern faiths. If I didn’t know better, I’d think that Christianity was the social equivalent of a “poison pill.”

  40. roscoe on October 17th, 2008 5:39 pm

    maurice–quote is a couple pages into pt 3 chap10

  41. roscoe on October 17th, 2008 6:48 pm

    Wrong Dietrich–Rome’s golden age began about the 11th century and lasts until the ‘Reformation’ begins to attack Western Civilisation.

    And wrong again as the 1000 yr dark age was caused by all those who rejected Christianity. Many lost their lives FIGHTING to establish Christianity which finally comes into it’s own with Innocent III and the INQ that supressed the Cathars(Albigensian manachians).

    Are you dumb enough to call Fr’s Campion, Southwell and Garnet ‘weak’???? Only a fool does not know the story of these couageous men and the countless other martyrs that have given their lives for Christianity.

    And BTW–the doctrine that makes one a judaic because ones mother is a judaic is Talmudic law –not Christian.

  42. cillian on October 17th, 2008 7:24 pm

    roscoe on October 17th, 2008 2:27 am

    Where does mr Pagan get the idea that science is irreconcilable with Christianity?

    Joshua 10:13 So the sun stood still,
    And the moon stopped,
    Till the people had revenge
    Upon their enemies.

    nuff said.

  43. Z.O.G. on October 17th, 2008 7:25 pm

    LOL @ roscoe. :-)

  44. Z.O.G. on October 17th, 2008 7:26 pm

    katman,

    That’s all fine and well, but you didn’t address the fact that Christianity has turned into nothing more than a socio-political tool of the Jews. ;-)

  45. Z.O.G. on October 17th, 2008 7:31 pm

    cillian,

    Are you trying to say that the bloodthirsty tribal Jewish desert god Yahweh didn’t really make the earth stop its rotation relative to the sun so that his chosen desert rats could finish slaughtering and killing their enemies in battle?

    HERETIC!!! YOU WILL BE BURNED AT THE STAKE!!!

  46. Scott on October 17th, 2008 7:38 pm

    Time to find a new network Peter. These pagans are Jews in disguise. They hated Christ then, they hate him now. Hence why they hate even the Christ followers and all he stands for.

  47. Z.O.G. on October 17th, 2008 7:46 pm

    Scott,

    roscoe says that you are a heretic and that you will be burned alive at the stake.

    You’ve been warned. LOL :-)

  48. cillian on October 17th, 2008 8:03 pm

    Ezekiel 20:25 Wherefore I gave them also statutes that were not good, and judgments whereby they should not live;

    So if God admits that some of the bible is bad and we shouldn’t follow it, how do we know which parts?

  49. cillian on October 17th, 2008 8:14 pm

    Z.O.G. on October 17th, 2008 7:31 pm

    cillian,

    Are you trying to say that the bloodthirsty tribal Jewish desert god Yahweh didn’t really make the earth stop its rotation relative to the sun so that his chosen desert rats could finish slaughtering and killing their enemies in battle?

    HERETIC!!! YOU WILL BE BURNED AT THE STAKE!!!

    Well, either science is wrong, or god is.

  50. Z.O.G. on October 17th, 2008 8:28 pm

    cillian,

    YOU ARE HEREBY EXCOMMUNICATED BY THE HOLY ROMAN CATHOLIC POPE ROSCOE II

    have a nice day :-)

  51. maurice on October 17th, 2008 8:29 pm

    “Time to find a new network Peter.”

    No, just don’t allow comments. Only by email.

    “Freedom of religion means that you have the right to worship whatever god you want, even Satan. Freedom of speech means that you have the right to say whatever you want, even blasphemy. Freedom of the press means that you have the right to print whatever you want, even pornography, blasphemy, and heresy.”

    And let’s say also free trade, free finance, free science – see the mess nowadays and see who is control now after those morons in French and American revolutions gave all this freedom.

  52. cillian on October 17th, 2008 8:37 pm

    Z.O.G. on October 17th, 2008 8:28 pm

    cillian,

    YOU ARE HEREBY EXCOMMUNICATED BY THE HOLY ROMAN CATHOLIC POPE ROSCOE II

    have a nice day :-)

    Oh no! How will I get my daily bread now?

  53. Mishko Novosel on October 17th, 2008 8:43 pm

    Can we please keep our eye on the prize and get off of the religious discussions. I might not agree with Peter all the time, but I respect the man, all of his hard work, and the truth. We might discuss this tonight after Peter’s show…

  54. Z.O.G. on October 17th, 2008 9:03 pm

    Schaenk says that the Jews behave the way they do because of their culture and their religion, not because of their biology and genetics. This idea is called “cultural anthropology”. I wonder if Schaenk is aware that he is espousing cultural anthropology? I wonder if he is aware of WHO created cultural anthropology? I doubt that he is.

    Oops, somebody screwed up, big time.

  55. Z.O.G. on October 17th, 2008 9:07 pm

    Schaenk,

    The ideas that you are espousing are taken directly from the field of study known as “cultural anthropology.”

    You might want to do some research into cultural anthropology and more importantly do some research into the people who created it. I think you will be surprised.

    (hint: they weren’t white)

  56. Scott on October 17th, 2008 9:39 pm

    ZOG, are you serious? So you don’t believe that culture and indoctrination have a lasting effect on people, especially those who are indoctrinated to believe they are supreme beings? Are you saying it’s all genetic? C’mon

  57. Scott on October 17th, 2008 9:41 pm

    No one can deny the Jews hatred of all things Christian, period. No one can deny that Abraham Foxman, who represents the ADL calls the New Testament hate speech. Few can deny that Jews make movies that portray Christians as whackos-further prove of their disdain. Christ had very few kind things to say about the Jews of his day. Few can deny that true Christians are decent people and good neighbors; not these fake Zionist, war-mongering ones who are trying to usher in Armegeddon on their terms–these are the loonies.

    Few can deny that as America has become a decadent nation because of the absence of true Christian values-and who wants to destroy those values? I think you know. Eradicate Christian values and turn all into filthy degenerates, Bread and Circus America.

    Christian Zionism is not very old and is not representative of the Christians of a century or more ago, nor is it representative of a good number of Christians today.

    Mr. Pagan is a Shaenk stalker, period. He’s like the Mookie Jones of pagans, kicking and screaming to get his way. His way is that of the dirty Jew who attacks and diverts Shaenk from his A-game.

    Peter just ignore this fool. As long as I have been around forums, these religious topics always get ugly.-there are very few winners-but I pray for their souls.

    I can only imagine that on their death bed or their last breath of air will they turn to God. And I pray it’s sooner than that.

    GOD BLESS YOU ALL.

    Follow the truth is right mishko, because it stated in a book I read frequently that “the truth shall set you free”

    If we can’t agree on all things, we can agree that the info and truth still matters. Keep it moving.

  58. Z.O.G. on October 17th, 2008 11:24 pm

    Yeah, religion always divides people, doesn’t it? Weird, huh? So what does that tell you?

    ;-)

  59. maurice on October 17th, 2008 11:48 pm

    especially the false religions as yours

  60. Z.O.G. on October 17th, 2008 11:57 pm

    Peter Schaenk is promoting the very false and very dangerous Jewish Marxist idea of cultural anthropology. This is not a good sign. I’m not sure if he is aware of what he is doing.

  61. maurice on October 18th, 2008 12:01 am

    what are you talking about? give me your sources. maybe is another Abramovitz Lecture Comitee participant. haha

  62. Z.O.G. on October 18th, 2008 12:06 am

    The Racial Egalitarian Movement

    Another way to describe egalitarianism is “the embracing of ‘nurture’ over ‘nature’” in the question of “which impacts human success the most: nature or nurture?” In other words, do genes or environment impact human success the most?

    Here is a list of some Jewish people who have played important roles in promoting or sustaining racial equality or egalitarian ideas in the West:

    1. Franz Boas [invented the field of 'Cultural Anthropology'; the father of the modern 'racial equality' movement; named by the U.S. government as having been involved in many Communist-front groups]

    2. Ashley Montagu [replaced Boas as the godfather of racial equality; author of the book "Race: Man's Most Dangerous Myth"; largely responsible for the bogus United Nations Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organization's (UNESCO) 1950 Statement on Race]

    3. Stephen Jay Gould [American palaeontologist and evolutionary biologist]

    4. Richard C. Lewontin [Professor of Zoology and Professor of Biology at Harvard University]

    5. Leon J. Kamin [American psychologist]

    6. Gene Weltfish [Boasian anthropologist; female; apparently had Communist beliefs]

    7. Isador Chein [professor of psychology at New York University]

    8. Melville Herskovits [American cultural anthropologist]

    9. Otto Klineberg [Canadian psychologist]

    10. Steven Rose [British neuroscientist]

    11. Karl Marx [invented Communism, which is a form of human equality ideology]

    12. The Frankfurt School leaders, who advocated Marxist ideas

  63. roscoe on October 18th, 2008 12:13 am

    Cillian

    I went to Jos 10 13 and ended up reading 10 12( which you neglected)– Jos doesn’t really command the Sun to be still, God just decides to do it that way– later on the Sun resumes its motion although I am not sure where in Bible this takes place. The point which( no surprise here) y’all are by passing is that this shows that the Sun was in motion beforehand as God created it that way.
    Copernicus and Galileo resurrected the old Pythagorean idea of the Sun being stationary and in the center of the Universe. These have both been proven wrong.

    Did anyone notice a post about 10 back where an attempt to confound the words rotation and revolution is made? This is the type of sophistry that is used to confuse the incredulous

    There is no Bible verse that says specifically the Sun revolves around Earth although I wouldn’t be surprised if there was a new translation which has one.

    Before Galileo one was free to say the Sun rev around Earth or the Earth around Sun because there was no scientific proof as of yet.

    http://www.cathinfo.com/bb/index.php?a=topic &t=4168

    The most ideal govt to have w respect to freedom of speech is a Catholic one. Look at the things Savanarola could get away w saying about Alex VI. A few of some very serious charges against this Pope have been proven wrong– many of you fools I am sure believe them.

  64. Z.O.G. on October 18th, 2008 12:17 am

    Modern Anthropology and its Political Agendas

    Anthropology is the study of man and how mankind evolved throughout history – although these days anthropology encompasses much more than that; indeed, today it covers nearly all areas of human life. In some ways, anthropology has overreached.

    Anthropology and Race

    In the past, anthropologists talked and wrote about the various differences between the human races. But after World War II that became much harder to do, since after that war descriptions of racial differences came to be viewed as “Nazi-like” in much of Western society.

    Sadly, in the Western countries today, the field of anthropology is filled with professors who either deny or downplay the significance of racial differences in humans. Those professors insist that race is either meaningless or nearly so, and that race is merely a social construct instead of a key physical feature. They insist that a person’s environmental surroundings, not his race, is the central factor in whether or not he is successful in life [note: there is a lot of evidence suggesting that genetics play a vital role in human intelligence and therefore human success] [1].

    In other words, modern anthropology has become “politically correct,” and is therefore frequently driven by leftist political ideas and not by scientific facts.[2] Additionally, it has been noticed by more than a few experts in the field that the transformation of anthropology from science-based to politically-driven was engineered largely by genetically-Jewish people within the field, beginning with Franz Boas and continuing with Ashley Montagu and Stephen J. Gould. The writings and lectures of those popular figures played a key role in the transformation of the field to largely-egalitarian-driven [3][4].[read more about Jews below]. In fact, it was Jews who were the key to the marginalizing or weakening of the physical part of anthropology. Without the ongoing efforts of Jewish activism over many decades, anthropology would still focus heavily on race. Or, to put it another way, Jews have attempted to reshape anthropology into something it was never meant to be – i.e., a vehicle used to promote human equality – and they have largely succeeded.

    Race-denying-or-downplaying anthropologists will, presumably, pass their views on to their students, and those students will also presumably pass on such ideas as well, and so on, which makes the race-denial matter more significant than it otherwise might be. In fact, we predict that, in the not-too-distant future, the field of anthropology will contain very few professors who hold “traditional” views about racial differences in humans, and therefore, anthropology will soon be nearly free of mentions of race and will adopt other, more benign terms in place of “race.” That, we believe, will eventually result in the idea of race all but vanishing from Western society, since race-deniers within society will then be able to use race-free anthropology as “scientific proof” that race doesn’t really exist. Such a society will then be more-or-less a Marxist society, because its framework will be right out of the Frankfurt School’s lesson books [that infamous school sought to make all humans appear "equal" to the next one] [5].

    Therefore, we believe that it is very important that the field of anthropology encourage the practice of talking about and writing about racial differences freely and openly, without any limits on what can and cannot be discussed. Further, we feel that race should become a central subject in the field of anthropology.

    Continuing on the issue of anthropology and race, we also believe that, given the significant role played by the Jews in shaping modern Western culture, anthropologists should reclassify the Jews as being a race, i.e., a race via historical inbreeding. We suggest that Ashkenazic Jews – i.e., most of world Jewry – are so historically inbred that they are, in fact, a race, just like Blacks are [granted, such a race description would not apply to part-Jewish people or gentiles who converted to the religion of Judaism]. There are Jewish genetic traits and diseases that support our belief that the Ashkenazic Jews are a race and not simply an ethnic group. Such a reclassification of Jews as being a race could help gentiles to better understand Jewish behavior in the Western countries.

  65. roscoe on October 18th, 2008 12:19 am
  66. Mishko Novosel on October 18th, 2008 2:39 am

    ZOG makes some interesting points but this really isn’t designed to be a message board. Posting a very long comment about anthropology, while it’s informative, it’s useless. My guess is that there are a few members that don’t listen to the shows, and are only here to be divisive. Would it be better if we don’t allow comments period? Honestly, I see the donations, so about 95% of the people that post here don’t do anything, you guys bitch and run your mouths. It might be time to take a peak at the IP addresses. This is not our style, but if you want to act like jews, you’ll be treated like ones. Have a nice weekend….

  67. roscoe on October 18th, 2008 3:02 am

    Shankus– do you like Thelonious Monk?

  68. roscoe on October 18th, 2008 3:11 am

    My favorites are Straight No Chaser and ‘Thelonious’.

    Could you enlighten us further re: your experience working at Santa Anita?

  69. maurice on October 18th, 2008 4:05 am

    “Would it be better if we don’t allow comments period?”

    Agree. Is better.

  70. Yippy on October 18th, 2008 4:58 am
  71. maurice on October 18th, 2008 5:08 am

    “I think it shows a sign of weakness that if your statements are challenged you want to remove the ability for others to argue their case. Isn’t that typical of what Jews do?”

    No. What tipically the jews do:
    - through masonry create the “cult of liberty”
    - install the “dogma” of free press & speech
    - through their resources control this “free press & speech”
    - embroil the goym making it believe he has “free press & speech” and with it can change something
    - but allways poison the little good info with lots of useless posts making division and distraction.

    Accepting free speech we are helping the enemy.

  72. maurice on October 18th, 2008 5:45 am

    “Apparently he regards himself as some kind of master theologian and expert on all topics who doesn’t need to have a discussion with the plebian audience, despite his own ignorance on many issues.”

    This quote seems very “gnostic”. So it means that to accept one truth one needs to be expert in all issues? When you accept something is true is due not to your extensive research (otherwise what 99% of the people, me included, would be able to do in orther to find this Truth?). But is due to:
    - Divine intervention (that one usually cannot recognize);
    - Some person superior to you (parents per example) told you;
    - Is logical – it follows the Natural Law (at least what you perceive about it);
    - and… dont’ know… please somebody else continue this – maybe http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/15073a.htm and http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/05752c.htm has some good info about.

  73. maurice on October 18th, 2008 5:49 am

    “Apparently he regards himself as some kind of master theologian and expert on all topics who doesn’t need to have a discussion with the plebian audience, despite his own ignorance on many issues.”

    This quote seems very “gnostic”. So it means that to accept one truth one needs to be expert in all issues? When you accept something is true is due not to your extensive research (otherwise what 99% of the people, me included, would be able to do in orther to find this Truth?). But is due to:
    - Divine intervention (that one usually cannot recognize);
    - Some person superior to you (parents per example) told you;
    - Is logical – it follows the Natural Law (at least what you perceive about it);
    - and… dont’ know… please somebody else continue this – maybe http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/15073a.htm and http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/05752c.htm has some good info about.

  74. maurice on October 18th, 2008 6:38 am

    - and of course one has to study and get knowledge in his own religion (the truth he accepted) – as far is possible for him

  75. Scott on October 18th, 2008 11:03 am

    Mishko:

    ZOG makes some interesting points? That’s if it fits your bias now doesn’t it? His sweeping generalization that Shaenk’s beliefs parallel/support Jewish thinking and cultural anthropology are as ridiculous as me saying that your comment about money makes you a Jew.

    How ridiculous do we want to get here?

    What if I said I were to make the leap that WN’s are closet supremacists and since Jews are supremacists, WNs must be too?

    That’s playing dirty but that’s what is happening right here right now. Debates are often productive but this is getting ugly.

    ZOG is making the argument that Shaenk embraces the very definition of ‘cultural anthropology’ that the article suggests…he’s a punk and a troublemaker, very divisive…and then makes the leap that Shaenk is apparently supporting Jewish doctrine. It’s nonsense, I don’t personally need a Jew to tell me that that culture, INDOCTRINATION and genetics play a part in shaping a person, whether it creates a good person or a monster.

    So screw that crap about ZOG making interesting points. He’s a punk.

  76. cillian on October 18th, 2008 11:06 am

    roscoe
    I didn’t ‘neglect’ to mention any section of the bible, I referenced one part, you want me to post the whole bible here? You should have your own copy.

    Anyway, you ever have to slam on your breaks in a car? Everything in the car gets thrown forward, imagine if you were traveling at 2000+ miles an hour, the speed of earths rotation. Can you imagine the damage that would have caused to the earth? Everything even the air suddenly being thrown forward at 2000 miles an hour.

    Telling me god stopped the earth and not the sun, is equally impossible. Which just proves my point. Science and Christinsanity are incompatible.

  77. Scott on October 18th, 2008 11:41 am

    Cillian:

    DNA suggests intelligent design, the idea that it evolved is almost laughable.

    If God could create such a complex organism, I’m pretty sure he could stop the earth.

    Believing that we all came from a rock is just a bit too much for me. Conversely it’s just as hard for someone to believe that a supreme being has been here forever and created all things.

    So you choose your faith.

  78. roscoe on October 18th, 2008 1:50 pm

    cillian–where has the Bible or myself said that the Earth stopped??? You are putting words in my posts that are not there.

  79. Mishko Novosel on October 18th, 2008 2:37 pm

    Why must some people 1/2 quote me? Oh yeah it serves their agenda. Again certain people don’t get it. The current situation we’re in is beyond religion. To the people that are determined to piss us off, TYPE AWAY. It warms our hearts to know that we’re upsetting the apple cart… THINK OUTSIDE THE BOX…

  80. roscoe on October 18th, 2008 2:55 pm

    yippy– thank you for post on masonic america.

  81. roscoe on October 18th, 2008 4:04 pm

    cillian–what you are not getting is that the Sun AND Earth are BOTH in motion.

    Scott– I am not aware that the Bible says God stopped the Earth– can you give me a verse?

    http://www.luisprada.com/Protected/the_photonic_belt.htm

  82. Mike Mathis on October 18th, 2008 4:04 pm

    There is a very simple solution to this problem and it comes from Alfred Rosenberg–throw out the Old Testament, keep the New Testament, and make Jesus an Aryan. Peter Shaenk does not understand that Jesus being viewed as a Jew and Jews being called the “chosen people” makes Whites unable to fight against the Jewish enemy.

  83. Mike Mathis on October 18th, 2008 4:06 pm

    Aryan Christians can get along with Pagans if both respect each other’s boundaries and do not proslytize.

  84. Z.O.G. on October 18th, 2008 4:08 pm

    Mike Mathis said: “Peter Schaenk does not understand that Jesus being viewed as a Jew and Jews being called the “chosen people” makes Whites unable to fight against the Jewish enemy.”

    Quoted for truth.

  85. Michael Mathis on October 18th, 2008 4:13 pm

    Queen Esther slaughtering Anti-Semitic Persians? You want that in your Bible? You want your children growing up on that? Throw out the Old Testament and keep the New Testament and make Jesus Christ an Aryan. The most famous Jew hater in the Third Reich, Julius Streicher, said that Christ was an Aryan.

  86. roscoe on October 18th, 2008 4:41 pm

    The doctrine of the Catholic Church says that Jesus is decended from the tribe of Judah on the side of his mother. It is Talmudic law that says a person is a true judaic if ones mother is one. The Catholic Church has no such law.

    The Ancient Covenant was given to the orig Hebrews because there is a fallen nature to mankind and someone has to redeem us. No one was ever ‘chosen’ to be better than anyone else. It is because of this attitude that the judaics twho evolved from the orig hebrews have had their position taken away permanently by God.

    So Jesus is in no way related to the modern day Judaics and I have never heard Shankus say that Judaics are God’s chosen people. Why is he being accused of that?? There should be an apology by Mathias and ZOG

    Rosenberg and Striecher were both( like Hitler and Gehlen) judaic double agents. It is a shame that the German people were deceived by this crowd. It is almost like the way nigerians are being seduced by Obomba.

  87. roscoe on October 18th, 2008 4:46 pm

    As for the book of Esther, I am in no way a Biblical scholar but it would be presumptuous for anyone to interpret the meaning of that book outside the Authority of Holy Church. What exactly that interpretation is I do not know but can assure this Forum that there is one.

  88. Z.O.G. on October 18th, 2008 5:00 pm

    LOL :-)

    roscoe needs his local priest to “interpret” the Book of Esther for him.

    LOL @ Catholics

  89. maurice on October 18th, 2008 8:01 pm

    Yes, wise man, we leave this interpretation to the Church. Your own interpretation has the same validity of your 5 years old children interpretation, or maybe also your dog’s interpretation (if your read to him).

  90. maurice on October 18th, 2008 10:40 pm

    ..o no.. sorry if I said a blasphemy. please cancel the previous post

  91. Z.O.G. on October 19th, 2008 12:35 am

    Yep, Catholics leave the “interpretation” of the Bible to guys who wear dresses, because Catholics can’t think for themselves.

    Hmm, so what’s it like still living in the Dark Ages?

    LOL :-)

  92. Z.O.G. on October 19th, 2008 12:36 am

    Hey, MO-reese, are you a French Canadian? It’s obvious that English isn’t your first language.

  93. maurice on October 19th, 2008 5:39 am

    Dark Ages? Much better than next North Amerika, hehe.

  94. maurice on October 19th, 2008 5:41 am

    french-canadian? no, I’m reptilian jesuit from Mars…

  95. maurice on October 19th, 2008 6:02 am

    Yes, we Catholics wisely prefer to leave this interpretation to specialists (although we also think by ourselves – incredible but true!), but nowadays I feel these “specialists” are few, and only in the Traditional Catholic groups.
    Try to give the construction project of one house to 4 different people: one dentist, one banker, one patriotard and one civil engineer – who will interpret better this projetc and construct a better house?

  96. roscoe on October 19th, 2008 3:09 pm

    Shankus– If you are not even going to read our comments from now on, this whole thing is a waste of time.

  97. Z.O.G. on October 19th, 2008 4:05 pm

    Yeah, the comment section is turning into a dual monologue Catholic bore-fest between MO-reese and roscoe p. coltrain. Oh well, it was fun while it lasted.

    LOL :-)

  98. roscoe on October 19th, 2008 4:20 pm

    If you actually listen to Shankus, he is fed up with the board because of you obstinate pagan heretics, not the Christian posters.

  99. Z.O.G. on October 19th, 2008 4:45 pm

    blah, blah, blah…

    Tell it to your local guy who wears a dress, roscoe. Oops, I mean your “priest”. LOL

  100. maurice on October 19th, 2008 7:15 pm

    Yes, I agree with Mishko: “Would it be better if we don’t allow comments”.

  101. Dietrich on October 20th, 2008 5:53 pm

    Wrong Dietrich–Rome’s golden age began about the 11th century and lasts until the ‘Reformation’ begins to attack Western Civilisation.

    Wow. Just . . . wow.

  102. Dietrich on October 20th, 2008 6:01 pm

    While I am for the cause, I cannot support your network at this time. Good luck to you.

    One of the big advantages of the internet over old-style radio is that the administrator can pwn those who need it.

  103. Z.O.G. on October 20th, 2008 10:48 pm

    11th century? Golden Age?

    ROTFLMAO :-)

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