Schaenk: War of Perception, Fri. 10/3

October 3, 2008

VoR radio host Peter Schaenk delivers a new broadcast.

2 hours 1 min.


66 Responses to “Schaenk: War of Perception, Fri. 10/3”

  1. Bumblefish on October 3rd, 2008 11:43 pm

    The Triumph of Saul Alinsky
    Posted by Bill Anderson at October 3, 2008 08:18 AM

    The outcome of this election no longer is in doubt. Obama will win a landslide, and he will have a Democratic Congress that will have numbers akin to what LBJ had in 1965 when he pushed through the Great Society programs.

    What we forget is that the real brainchild of this election was the Marxist Saul Alinsky, whose Rules for Radicals still is the Bible of community organizing. Obama’s triumph in November will signal the absolute strength of Alinsky-style organizations, and especially ACORN, the organization that launched his political career.

    First, ACORN will make sure that Obama receives an overwhelming number votes in all the inner cities — and those are just the legal votes that he will receive. Obama also will be the beneficiary of many phantom votes just as Al Gore was in 2000, especially in the swing states.

    Second, the philosophy of ACORN is to destroy private enterprise or at least to make it so subservient of a radical government that it no longer has any independence. We have seen the power of ACORN in making sure that banks obeyed the Community Reinvestment Act to what has turned out to be destructive levels.

    Third, even though ACORN is a tax-exempt organization, it clearly is a player in partisan politics. While this is illegal, ACORN has received special privileges and will continue to do so. Like any other organization that has political power, it will seek to destroy competitors, and that will mean organizations like churches (that are not left-wing), private schools, homeschooling organizations, and other charities.

    Furthermore, ACORN will do it with the full power of the state behind it. I have come to realize that we are about to enter an age in which the government will be openly hostile to private capital and especially to profit-seeking entrepreneurship. The effects will be devastating over time, and because the Republicans have been so destructive while they governed, the Democrats — and ACORN — will have no political rivals of which to speak.

    We libertarians are going to have to re-think how we approach things. Do not kid yourselves; we are going to come under fire for our opposition to the state. The Left has tolerated us because we have aimed much of our firepower at the Republicans and Bush, but as that age is about to end, so will end the benevolent attitudes of the Left. We are about to become the Enemies of the People again.

  2. Peter Schaenk on October 4th, 2008 1:53 am

    I think the writer underestimates the angry White males of Red State America.

    We will see in November.

  3. roscoe on October 4th, 2008 2:26 am


  4. roscoe on October 4th, 2008 2:27 am


  5. roscoe on October 4th, 2008 2:35 am


    Why does stuff like this tend to break on Fri late night?

  6. K-Sensor on October 4th, 2008 5:06 am

    1/4 of the voters are Bible Belt and they will vote McCain wont they? Then you have the Conservatives that find Obama too out-there. Palin will be a big draw card for the middle age women, she’ll even cut into the Obama MTV voters that are giving him the biggest support.

    I see Obama pulling in the gay vote and MTV people. McCain/Palin getting Israel Protective Christian Belt, including Morons, and maybe the single-mothers.

    Like Peter said McCain will have a trick up his sleeve if there is any conflict with Russia helping the South America Block or if the Jews pull off a nuclear attack on US soil and it’s blamed on the type of Arabs that dislike the Israeli-Zionist State.

    Something big is going to happen to bring about the third world war as expected by freemasonry to reign in the age and the killing off of the populations.

  7. K-Sensor on October 4th, 2008 5:08 am

    thanks for the show Peter.

  8. K-Sensor on October 4th, 2008 5:26 am

    Peter is there any validity in the saying, give what’s Caesar’s to Caesar. Other words, give them their money! Start a new system internally.

    The effect of the bail-out is to reinflate the system that gives power tot he corrupt. That’s why they insisted that the protection Bills were going to pass.

    The first three pager Bill must have been staged knowing it would trip up the complainers in the first stage, as how did they write a 400+page Bill in two days.

    I’ve seen the .GOV.US website and it’s the worse managed site I’ve seen from an establishment with money. Searching for legal documents and such is difficult and unordered, it’s like they don’t want you to discover the Acts.

  9. K-Sensor on October 4th, 2008 5:39 am

    Peter in Australia the Media are pushing that the bailout is all ups, and taking about coming events based in a recovered Market. It’s such a lot of tripe.

    Also I apologise for our Pathetic Prime Minister encouraging your Government and People to back the bail-out. He wasn’t talking for me.

  10. Ethan on October 4th, 2008 5:43 am

    From the Monday night thread:

    > The signing of a Presidential Directive in July of 1963
    > authorizing the issuance of 450 Billion Dollars in United
    > States Notes was the principal reason for the removal of
    > President Kennedy’s head.

    That story is false. See Revilo Oliver’s “Killing Kennedy”:

    This order [10289] was first amended to affect currency by
    Kennedy’s Order 11110, 4 June 1963, of which Ch. 1 added to the
    first paragraph of 10289 (which had nothing to do with currency)
    a subparagraph (j) which authorized the Secretary of the
    Treasury “to issue silver certificates against any silver
    bullion, silver, or standard silver dollars in the Treasury not
    then held for redemption of any outstanding silver certificates,
    to prescribe the denomination of such silver certificates, and
    to coin standard silver dollars and subsidiary silver currency
    for their redemption.”

    Not a word about ‘greenbacks’!

    (And so, needless to say, it was not revoked by Johnson after
    the assassination made him President. Kennedy’s last Executive
    Order 11127, 9 November 1963, concerned a strike on the Florida
    East Coast Railway. Johnson’s first orders were 11128, giving
    Federal employees a holiday on Monday, 25 November; 11129,
    extolling Kennedy and renaming the Atlantic Missile Range in his
    honor; and 11130, appointing the Warren Commission.)


    Such are the facts about the fiction that credited Jackanapes
    with the issuance of usury-free ‘greenbacks.’ The contriver of
    the hoax was, as I have said, clever. I do not know his motive.
    He may have been one of the fairly numerous “right-wingers” who
    think that such hoaxes will enable them to attract a following
    and become “leaders,” or who imagine that a clever hoax will
    call the boob’s attention to some crucial fact, such as the
    Federal Reserve’s great swindle. They do not perceive–or
    perhaps do not care–what damage they do to the cause they
    presumably wish to further.

  11. K-Sensor on October 4th, 2008 5:54 am

    America is going through a new French Revolution but at a slow pace. They know once America breaks from its Magna Carta based Christian background, then the rest of the White World will follow suit in copying the new system..

  12. F on October 4th, 2008 6:21 am

    Where can I find the source for Freud’s comment on the destruction of the old Roman order?

  13. K-Sensor on October 4th, 2008 6:28 am

    Let’s face it, any trader in Gold and Silver, buys up big in the low period, and sells when the general sentiment of society and the market is in a gloomy state. People want to hedge with gold. Now factor that in with Alex Jones and RBN. They both are connected to gold sales in their networks. They both have Jews in the background supplying the gold ‘n’ coins.

    It’s in Stadtmiller’s, and Jones interest, to allow some amount of truth to come out as with the gloom comes more sales of gold. What ever they do they can’t talk about the real truths as that condemns their Jewish pay masters. Jones more so, than Stadtmiller.

    Mookie is a Arnie try hard.

  14. 10Bears on October 4th, 2008 11:42 am

    How do I get a copy of the 4Horsemen? Is it by Big Tex & The Blazing Pintos? What’s the title? Can you send me an MP3 or play it in its entirety so I can record it? It’s a very creepy song and I enjoy it. Thanks.

  15. roscoe on October 4th, 2008 5:16 pm

    Ethan====Collins-Piper has also debunked the Kennedy greenbacks story in his tract Default Judgement.

    K-Sensors idea that America has a Magna-Carta based christian background is nothing but a fantasy.

  16. roscoe on October 4th, 2008 5:38 pm

    Jury consultant Howard Varinsky is already claiming that OJ was convicted the day the almost all white jury was picked– a sure case of the GWB framing the nigerian. Apparently there was one woman on the jury who claims to be hispanic.

  17. katman on October 4th, 2008 6:14 pm

    If the Israelis killed kennedy over his objection about them having the nuke, then I am a bit puzzled by this. it was jews who stole the information , then fed it to the russians, enabling the russians to build their first bomb. the american nuclear industry was chock full of jews, who in the very least, cannot be disallowed as being sayanims for the mossad , of course. so if the jews gave the russians the nuclear secrets, as they probably did the chinese during the clinton years, why would they withhold this information from their own people and/or country. I think kennedy was killed for some other esoteric reasons, perhaps to destroy the American psyche , etc……….and well it did, a whole generation who loved camelot…….and still do……..

  18. katman on October 4th, 2008 6:19 pm

    well it really doesn’t matter roscoe on the OJ situation. He was convicted by his peers and now he will go down for this for the rest of his life probably. the man is sick. they can appeal, but if there were no glaring technicalities of a legal nature in this case, then the appeal will not survive…….it was really a open and shut case……..too many witnesses………plus OJ had motive, and opportunity to do this……maybe we will get lucky and someone will kill this asshole while he is in the joint, payback for the brutal murders that he committed and got away with so long ago……

  19. K-Sensor on October 4th, 2008 6:24 pm

    Peter do you think you’re missing the plot if you’re not willing to factor in Freemasonry?

    Yes the Jews are the bastion of the Mystery Religion so Freemasons are indirectly Jewish in faith, but we can’t over look Freemasons are in Government. If you got rid of Jews today, the problem would continue through the Lodges, their Businesses, and their connections in places of power. People would come forth with the Jewish attributes we loath so much.

    Was Pike Jewish?

  20. [Flame deleted] on October 4th, 2008 6:30 pm

    I like how he went off on the Pagan fellow basically doing a Micheal Savage on him. Of course he won’t let any pagans on his show to have a fair debate or conversation on the subject. Instead he uses Michael Savage double speak to put down anyone that doesn’t go along with his ideology.

    Any moron can say that sacrificing people and animals is savagry. Of course it is. But the idiotic assertion that Christianity delivered us from that is retarded. How about burning people at the stake? Was that civilized? Of course the jews want to destroy Christianity. Many pagans realize this and will side with the Christians before anyone else. He states that there is a nutjob “attack from the pagans” and in doing only causes divisions within our rank.

    And his assertions that either you follow his ideaology or you’re not “one of us” is again a Savage tactic.

    I’m not going to waste my time listening to this idiot acidhead’s shows anymore.

  21. Peter Schaenk on October 4th, 2008 7:19 pm

    Burning a person at the stake was barbaric, however, it is no more barbaric than the death penalty. At the time they had no electric chair for Jew Kabbalists, so they burned them at the stake after a trial that found them guilty of witchcraft.

    By the way, Kabbalism is a form of witchcraft.

    So much for the Jew version of history.

    I’d say that was far more civilized than the Pagan practice of raping and looting the White village next door, because they didn’t feel like doing a good days work in the field planting and harvesting food.

    Your idiotic comparison of “Stake burning” and the rapine and looting practiced by Pagans is like comparing the State of California’s use of the gas chamber with the Black gang banger’s practice of raping White girls.

    Thanks for the feedback. Now go and report back to your Jew controller at the ADL.

    I’m sure Mike Savage is on the air during my show, so you can listen to him instead.

    “Any moron can say that sacrificing people and animals is savagry.”

    This is true, and you just said it!

  22. roscoe on October 4th, 2008 9:59 pm

    Looks like the Bill White/ Hal Turner crowd has found VOR

  23. roscoe - is that really the way it is here at VOR? on October 4th, 2008 10:23 pm

    So we can’t carry on any arguments with speakers on pertinent topics when they “don’t like it”? Seems like “Michael Savage” doctrine to me.

    I was first attacked by PS (as a “jew”), I guess that doesn’t matter.

    Come on. I’m not calling names like a beast. He was the first to use the J-word against me!

  24. roscoe on October 5th, 2008 2:26 am

    Acc to Catholic Church, The Krauts are decended from Japeth aka Iapeth of Bible fame—Bill White is a judaic unless I am mistaken.

    I hope Shankus is thinking about the OJ verdict and that it was an obvious set up. Sharpton will be interesting on Mon. The all white jury and the Fox U incident will drive the nigerians nuts. I am surprised that no one is talking about the Detroit copper that was actually found lynched last week.

  25. K-Sensor on October 5th, 2008 6:48 am

    I agree with Peter Schanek, Paganism is barbaric.

    It’s interesting that most Nations have resorted to sacrifices at their worse carnation, This shows that Freemasons aren’t trust worthy even if they are Anglo-Freemason without Jewish influence.

  26. K-Sensor on October 5th, 2008 6:50 am

    Roscoe, I meant Magna Carta Christians as in the legal state of the Nation and what Christians in America expected by their order.

    America was founded by the Brits, but I recognise many Dutch and other North Europeans went to America to seek Christian freedoms, and they never knew the Magna Carta previous to their landing in the US nation.

  27. Ryan Shaw on October 5th, 2008 8:02 am

    To the “square”, PETE, just like every Jew I have pissed off on my journey of saving the west, I notice one thing in common about all the compliaints. Yours is directly relative to this point even though you appear to not be jewish. Your foot is caught in the trap, the jig is up and all you can do is bitch, moan and wine. Your faith based OPINION has been shattered by the TRUTH. So you have only one option because your mind will not let you accept it PETE. You resort to name calling and demean the source of intelligence that stopped you in your tracks. Thats exaxtly what Shaenk did to your “theory”. Now your not man enough to accept truth. That shows your charachter with flying colors. Your character is equivalent to a chimp or less in my personal opinion. Now listen to what Peter said and learn from your mistakes instead of sitting there in shame and whining like every other pitiful human on this planet. Its people like you PETE that make me smile at the image of curbing your teeth and seeing your face torn up like fresh ground beef. Hows that for barbaric sacrifice PETE?

    -Ryan Shaw
    Fairbanks, AK

  28. K-Sensor on October 5th, 2008 8:41 am

    Peter the Women’s Lib are all the blame, the Men are also become useless too.

  29. maurice on October 5th, 2008 9:34 am

    this this comments page is useless. You know very well what is needed to fight this War of Perception. You show this in the August 4th show.
    Why you need useless discussions with jewish agents and people with no useful ideas?
    Just put a link to your site and forget the comments.

  30. K-Sensor on October 5th, 2008 9:38 am

    Maurice it’s called feedback.

  31. maurice on October 5th, 2008 10:14 am

    I see, personally I like to read this forum sometimes, especially Peter replies, but I sometimes guess which is the best tool in this war. I also don’t have a better idea other than fight this war starting at home, at your neighborhood. Seems that doing sites and blogs is useless (not these Peter’s shows, of course).

  32. Scott on October 5th, 2008 10:54 am

    The guy going around trying to destroy Peter’s credibility by constantly barraging this forum with insults to Peter is a case of a bruised ego and now he’s on the war path. Grow up punk, you two will never agree on your ‘religious’ views. Put it to rest and chalk it up to experience, good grief.

  33. Dave Mende on October 5th, 2008 11:38 am

    Bumblefish. In case you haven’t noticed, free enterprise no longer exists in america. It was moved to China. Also, I would rather lose my money to a bunch of lazy blacks through welfare than to a bunch of murderous thugs in pinstripe suits on WallStreet. God Bless Obama if he can break the back of the american military. We don’t need it. Russia is now the most free ‘superpower’ on the planet. You republican/democrat war mongerers are the bad guys. BTW Jesse Ventura would be best, but I suspect he, like RPaul, cannot win. WallStreet Big Media woud kill him..

  34. roscoe on October 5th, 2008 12:08 pm

    Hitler was a Judaic!!!!

  35. Scott on October 5th, 2008 2:11 pm

    Well I’m a Christ follower myself and not a white nationalist so I just don’t know what to say here. I just follow good information, and despite my own personal differences with VOR, I like much of the factual information they put forward, the rest I ignore.

    I think your beating a dead horse when it comes to a person belief system. We each have our own and for many it’s unshakable (I won’t waiver), I am a Christ follower but not a Christian Zionist.

    But good luck, a lot of mud-slinging is yet to come I guess.

  36. Shaenks war on paganry on October 5th, 2008 4:32 pm

    Scott, that is fine. There is nothing wrong with being Christian. But when you make wild statements condemning paganry as having no moral code it goes beyond stupidity. I don’t mean you, I mean Shaenk. Why can’t he just say there is a war against Christianity and leave it at that? Instead he goes into Michael Savage mode and concocts this whack-job nonsense that Paganry is attacking Christianity. It’s nonsense, plain and simple.

    Oh yeah, and I’m working for the ADL naturally because I oppose what he says about Paganry!!! Right…….., ok. I’m seriously starting to question Mr. Shaenk’s sanity. :(

  37. roscoe on October 5th, 2008 7:20 pm

    Obomba proposal–’America needs a domestic civilian national security force that is as strong and well funded as the military’.

  38. F on October 5th, 2008 7:33 pm

    Hi Peter,

    Where can I find the source for Freud’s comment on the destruction of the old Roman order?

    No one in the comment section has posted a link, so hopefully you can provide me with the source.


  39. Z.O.G. on October 5th, 2008 7:47 pm


    LOL :-)

  40. K-Sensor on October 5th, 2008 8:13 pm

    F I know in a BBC documentary on Freud they said in letters he talked about his secret society and its aim, but I’m not sure where you would get access to those papers. Is there a Freud repository?

    On a google search.

  41. K-Sensor on October 5th, 2008 8:19 pm

    New Zeitgeist-2 doco is high on escaping the racial stereo types. They hint that race is used for making wars which is a half truth.

    They use Freudian ideas to say you don’t need role models, indirectly. Peter’s shows are so important in these times. We have to spread the message.

  42. K-Sensor on October 5th, 2008 8:38 pm

    Yet again Zeitgeist -2 tries to attack Christianity.

  43. Z.O.G. on October 5th, 2008 10:05 pm

    “Zeitgeist” was made by a Jew. He is trying very hard to hide the fact that he’s a Jew. That’s why his last name isn’t publicized.

  44. Rob on October 5th, 2008 10:20 pm

    Response to Peter’s address on paganism in response to my posts:

    1. Peter, I never stated I was a practicing pagan, so I am not a “self-proclaimed pagan” as you have claimed. Please pay more attention to what is written than jumping to conclusions. This discussion started when you claimed that pagans had no moral code or a drastically inferior one, so I responded. In addition, you clearly avoided addressing the point I made in a post that what was positive to christianity was not new, but its universalism and its moral and spiritual reference to the semitic middle east is what made it pernicious to indigenous Europeans. In addition, you never bothered to address my query about what type of society you envision when you rail against secularism.

    2. As to human sacrifice, as rephrensible as it is, to my knowledge, this was never something that was codified in their holy scriptures, anymore than inquisitions and witch hunts well into the 17th century in America was codified in the bible. Like you said, civilized is “relative”. In addition, this was nowhere near the level of the central american indian sacrifices of 50,000 people annually to their sun god. Germanic sacrifices usually involved prisoners of war or criminals. But if christianity was such an improvement, please explain the inquisitions and witch trials. Please explain hanging, drawing, and quartering that was employed by christian medieavel governments. In a recent post, you’ve tried to even mitigate burning at the stake by claiming this was akin to the modern electric chair. Do you really believe this? Wouldn’t a quick strike to the neck on a chopping block by an executioner wielding an axe be more humane? The fact is christians employed slow roasting over a fire as a “purification” by fire of one’s soul. And you attack barbarism of pagan Germans? So much for improving upon paganism and christianity’s moral excellence.

    3. You’re baffled that I stated my ancestors weren’t christians. Initially they weren’t and later they were forcibly converted. Why the confusion? Monarchs converted to christianity because of its moral excellence? How about simple political leverage and legitimization of their authority by Rome? Ya think that played a role?

    4. Pagans believed in horse auguries. That is amusing, especially to christians who believe that a jewish carpenter, born of a virign inseminated by the holy spirit, was the literal son of God, who was crucified, died, buried, and rose from the dead three days later. Everyone who believes this version of events will attain everlasting life in heaven, and those who don’t will burn forever in the fires of hell. Perhaps some might be sent to purgatory to work off their spiritual debt for a while before gaining admission to paradise. This is all much more rational than those goofy horse auguries, to christians.

    5. Germans worshipped Isis, who was a semitic goddess, and is also worshipped by satanists. Peter, you’re way out of your depth here and mixing up issues and consequently conveying faulty information to your listeners. Firstly, it is doubtful ANY German tribes EVER worshipped Isis. Many of the ancient world’s pagan religions had gods and goddesses which sometimes had correspondent equivalents in other cultures. The cult of Isis would have been more familiar to the Romans of Tacitus’s day. It was a cult they were more familiar with at the time than that of the cults of the Germanic tribes who were actually in some ways much more exotic and unknown to the Romans than the Egyptian culture. When Tacitus describes a cult of Isis, what he most likely meant was the Germanic equivalent of the Egyptian goddess, which would have been either Nerthus or Freya to the Germans. The same applies to Mercury, a Roman god. Germans NEVER worshipped Mercury, they worshipped Odin, the god of war and esoteric wisdom. Unlike the Romans, the Germans didn’t even have a point of contact with Egypt’s relgious cults. As to the influence you speak of on
    Egypt from Sumer, this is a distinct possibility, but the Sumerians were neither semites nor Indo-Europeans, so the point you were trying to make in bringing them up is moot. As to your remark about latter day satanists worshipping Isis, this is nothing more than a gratuituous attempt at defaming ancient German pagans and is completely irrelevant. Satan is a christian construct and didn’t even exist for the ancient Indo-European pagan peoples.

    6. Ancient Germani were warlike and preferred to live off of pillaging and looting? In hindsight, this assessment of Tacitus’s doesn’t stand up to the light of historical scrutiny. Germans lived in settled agricultural communities, just like any other group in Europe did. They weren’t like the turkic nomadic huns who lived solely on horseback raiding and subsisting off of the livelihood of settled European agricultural communities. Were Germans warlike? Of course, Europe was a contentious place in those days and tribes were jostling each other for position. Christianity never abolished war, did it?

    7. People who attack christianity are attacking the largest ally of white people? Yet it’s the catholic church and multi-culti we are all one in the eyes of Jesus crowd who turn a blind eye to illegal immigration. After all, Mexicans and other mestizos are catholics. This claim of yours has not a single leg to stand on. Except for a few marginal white nationalist christian types, christianity lends itself to egalitarian multiculturalism and has been the vessel for it. The reality is 180 degrees the opposite of what you claim it to be.

    8. People who challenge christianity are jews or crypto-jews? You know, Peter, nowhere have I ever launched a personal attack on you, and I’ve always conducted myself respectfully within the context of the brief few exchanges we’ve had. Yet, for you to start your segment on your show about my post my referring to me, a listener, as an “odd bird” and then questioning from the very beginning not my ideas but my motives, was downright smarmy. In the same breath you claimed you didn’t want to “insult this fellow, but….” Uh huh. Point taken. Don’t worry, I won’t post here further or listen to your show any longer. There are others out there more in line with my mode of thinking. I will give you credit for this much: as you’ve stated in the past, you are definitely no white nationalist. Anyone who disparages pre-christian whites as the equivalent of modern third world savages and firmly believes that it is christianity which made white people and their civilization what it has become does not fit the definition.

    Take care and good luck.

  45. Scott on October 5th, 2008 10:21 pm

    Well that makes sense ZOG, and I had my suspicions. Back when the first zeitshite came out I went to the site–completely anonymous, no info on who produced whatsoever. Everyone seemed so blown away about this crockumentary, it was Jordan Maxwell-esque and the rest was just plagiarized material.

    There are plenty of sheeple and lemmings even in the ‘alternative’ media.

  46. maurice on October 5th, 2008 10:50 pm

    try to look something else than CNN and History Channel and Jewish history books.
    If you have so much time to write in a forum why you don’t really fight this war and take you chidren (sons, nephews, gransons) from Cartoon network and Internet and play and read something good to them.
    Take care and good luck.

  47. Rob you're wasting your breath on this guy on October 5th, 2008 11:09 pm

    He’s a flaming Christianite. He’s probably in league with the Westboro Baptist Church. He’s from Austin, and TX isn’t exactly a place for people that “think outside the box”. It is loaded with tools of the jew on a mission. San Antonio, Hagee-land, isn’t that far away. So again, you’re wasting your time responding to this freak.

  48. maurice on October 5th, 2008 11:11 pm

    Freedom of speech… so also the pigs can talk…

  49. mo-reese dun had spoken! on October 6th, 2008 12:04 am

    Oh loady! We’ms musta be bowin’ down to jeebu! Loady! Shaenk dun be preachin’ as mo-reese now!!!! I dun needs ta get me sum jewsus!!!! Oh, loady!!!!

  50. maurice on October 6th, 2008 12:54 am

    Ok, I didn’t want to offend with “pig”. Was something I remeber about the “Animal Farm” where the pigs were the communist jews.

    But, although we see some advantage from the “free speech”, I believe that is something to review, because is also the cause of a so strong “Mainstream midia” or “Patriotard midia”.

    And this false “democracy” and “free speech” (see what happened with Mr. Toben) hides the real enemy. Maybe is better to have a very clear enemy to aim at.

  51. maurice on October 6th, 2008 12:57 am

    And also the “free press” is the cause of so much pornography.

  52. maurice on October 6th, 2008 1:08 am

    Those morons after the french and american revolution gave freedom of speech, press, etc., and now we are in this situation – and now the jews in control will stop with this freedom, but in their condition.

  53. roscoe on October 6th, 2008 1:43 am

    The Sun is in motion– it is flying through space at about 40,000 mph. I hope this Forum is preparing for the annual Columbus Day Celebration.

  54. Seth on October 6th, 2008 2:46 am

    Peter, the various superstitious oddities and injustices you attribute solely to pagans were experienced by Europeans and Americans under Christianity as recently as the 17th century. Dunkings and burnings at the stake come to mind. Not bathing and the black plague also comes to mind.

    Christians today, in their present form, though no longer behaving as oddly as we tend to judge people through the myopic folly of the lens of the present, still cling to troublesome, non-substantive beliefs. One such belief is in the divine chosenness of the current rulers of Palestine and their diaspora abroad. Along with that belief comes fanatical, unquestioning material and moral support, by the millions of devotees, from the pulpit of our contemporary Christian churches.

    I ask you to judge whether it is overwhelmingly modern Indo-European neopagans or Christians who have devoted themselves to Jews, materially and morally empowering Jewish Tikkun Olam.

    The last point is about your statements on Germanic pagan weapon control, where you not only conveniently deny the existence of same for a millenium under medieval Christianity but also refused to explain that weapons were given (a spear probably) approximately during a boy’s right of passage to manhood if he wasn’t a cripple or an idiot.

    You would have your listeners believe that 1) European pagans wrongly, for no reason, suppressed “liberty” via “weapon control”, that 2) Christianity never had any odd, useless, or unjust superstitions that continue until now, that 3) European pagans wrongly, for no reason, committed human sacrifice, rather than ritually murdered serious problem people who might appear in the community, and that 4) Christianity is a White Nationalist natural ally. The last claim on your part is completely unsupported by the existing political facts in society today. The facts actually rest overwhelmingly in opposition to your assertion.

    Egalitarian Western Christianity today is primarily humanist as its moral basis as opposed to centering upon God or Nature or Cosmic concepts. As such, Christianity in America and Western Europe now operates as a major natural political ally for liberals, Jews and other non-whites.

  55. roscoe on October 6th, 2008 2:52 am

    Sure bet– the OJ verdict will be appealed on grounds of all-white jury!!

  56. Z.O.G. on October 6th, 2008 3:11 pm

    I see…O.J., and he be lookin’ real sad. Now looky here…


  57. maurice on October 6th, 2008 7:35 pm

    “and the jew sit by and watch this and laugh just like they did during the Colosseum days in ancient Rome…”

    “O Christian! not, like feather, by each wind
    Removable; nor think to cleanse yourselves
    In every water. Either testament,
    The old and new, is yours: and for your guide,
    The shepherd of the church. Let this suffice
    To save you. When by evil lust enticed,
    Remember ye be men, not senseless beasts;
    Nor let the Jew, who dwelleth in your streets,
    Hold you in mockery. Be not, as the lamb,
    That, fickle wanton, leaves its mother’s milk,
    To dally with itself in idle play.”

    Paradise by Dante Alighieri

  58. maurice on October 6th, 2008 7:38 pm

    sorry, I forgot:

    “and the jew sit by and watch this and laugh just like they did during the Colosseum days in ancient Rome…”
    Peter Schaenk – Oct 3rd, 2008

  59. Blue Collar Brad on October 7th, 2008 9:06 pm

    People have to understand that Christ died fighting the money changers and the jews had the Romans kill him. People who consider themselves National Socialist and a Pagan don’t understand National Socialism at all. Hitler was a Christian. I collect Nazi death cards and they all have images of Christ on them. Peter Schaenk has never thrown Christianity down anybody’s throat and anything the man says he backs up with hard core proof. if you feel that the jews lied about the halocaust then how can you not think they are lying about Christ? Peter Schaenk is one in a million, so put your ears closer to the speaker, calm yourselves down & listen to what he has to say.

  60. roscoe on October 7th, 2008 9:30 pm

    Hitler was a Judaic who attacked the Roman Catholic Church!!!!!

  61. Peter Schaenk on October 7th, 2008 9:34 pm

    I’ll say it one last time.

    Christianity offers a superior moral code compared to the other systems available.

    If I am wrong provide facts not attacks using profanity and nonsense.

    Pagans DID sacrifice people to their various gods, (The semitic god Isis being one of them) it had nothing to do with justice as you would imply by sacrificing “problem citizens” with anti-social behavior.

    Christianity put an end to raping, looting, and sloth as an accepted practice, in addition to human sacrifice.

    If you think this is incorrect, you know nothing about Christianity or history.

    With re: to Zionist Christians. They are no more Christian than the man in the moon. They are agents of Israel.

    I enjoy your attempt at painting Christians with this brush. Christians believe in Christ and his teachings. He warned us about the Pharisees and they crucified him as a result.

    The same people who run Israel today, are the ones who crucified Christ.

    I don’t think Christ would support Israel today, nor do Christians that believe in Christ.

    This has nothing to do with the moral code Christianity provided or my original statement. This is a theological argument and not one that I wish to discuss in this thread. It is also an attempt on your part to build a “straw man”.

    It’s rather cute. You must have received a “C+” in your high school debate class.

    It’s interesting at how angry supposed Pagan / WN’s become at this very matter-of-fact statement. Especially, in light of the fact that I have not mentioned the divinity of Christ in an attempt to evangelize.

    I have merely compared the Christian model of morality to the other popular models.

    It’s easily proved or disproved with the use of empirical evidence, and yet the best any of you can offer is straw men and personal attacks.


    A head’s up.

    If you are going to post on this thread, do so without attacking me in your post handle.

    I am going to have the offending posts removed, so if you have something to say, you can repost it under a polite / civilized name and not one that serves no other purpose than to irrationally attack the host and his message.

    This network and website are dedicated to rational discussion of topics. Not hyperbole and profane nonsense.

    This is a good way to eliminate “Jew plants”, who post to create controversy where none should exist.

  62. Peter Schaenk on October 8th, 2008 12:57 am

    Actually, Hitler showed a lot of respect to the Italians by not marching his troops through the heart of Rome.

    The Allies never showed as much respect and had no problem destorying monasteries and great works of art.

  63. roscoe on October 8th, 2008 7:08 pm

    The Vatican And The War by Cianfarra is most educational— Hitler was just as brutal to Holy Church as The Commies despite the authors attempt to make them seem worse.

  64. katman on October 8th, 2008 7:38 pm

    the wickerman

    burning people and animals for sacrifice to gods by pagan men

    in britain

    as reported by witnesses in roman armies….

  65. katman on October 8th, 2008 7:46 pm

    hitler and 3rd reich was catholic

    yabba , dabba , doo……

  66. katman on October 8th, 2008 7:48 pm

    a pagan looks at the dark ages….