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Peter Schaenk 8/28/08 The War of Perception

August 28, 2008

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71 Responses to “Peter Schaenk 8/28/08 The War of Perception”

  1. Rob on August 29th, 2008 2:30 pm

    Hi Peter, you might have already come across this item. In the 2005 edition of Bernay’s “Propaganda”, if you have that edition, you will note that the forward is by one Mark Crispin Miller, a jew who teaches media studies at New York University. This jew penned the article “The Jewish Media: The Lie That Won’t Die” in 1996, where he attempts to debunk the notion that the jews control the media. Here is a link.

    http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=1365

    When talking about the direction the country is going in and who’s responsible, who does he pin it on? You got it: it’s those gentile white guys again. Here’s what he says, and here’s a portrait of this jew:

    http://pacificfreepress.com/component/option,com_comprofiler/task,userProfile/user,90/Itemid,35/

    “If this movement were to be given a name, I think it would most appropriate to call it Christo-Fascism, and if anyone objects to my using the word fascism, because it seems so redolent of the Axis powers…… it’s when 150% America puts a flag on it’s lapel and a cross around it’s neck and a real folksy way a talkin’, but just because it’s red, white and blue, doesn’t mean it’s American.” – Mark Crispin Miller, A Patriot Act”

    So you see, Peter, it’s “christo-fascists” who are in charge, and it’s jews, I guess, who are the final arbiters of who and what is “American”.
    These jews never cease their assault on us. They have always been at war with us, and they will always be at war with us, unless we’re ever finally able to neutralize them.

    He has his own blog as well.

    http://markcrispinmiller.blogspot.com/

    Take care.

  2. Rob on August 29th, 2008 7:44 pm

    We did have an alamo, Peter. The man who fought it was Adolf Hitler, and we lost.

  3. Rob on August 29th, 2008 8:01 pm

    I’m pretty sure Palin is a jewish name. Sarah’s maiden name is Heath, but it looks like here husband Todd is a jew.

  4. Peter Schaenk on August 29th, 2008 9:15 pm

    Are we allowed only two Alamo’s?

  5. roscoe on August 30th, 2008 2:07 am

    Hitler was a judaic. The Catholic minister of Austria, Dolfuss was killed because he had the goods on Adolf.

  6. David Holloway on August 30th, 2008 5:03 am

    Dollfus was killed because he blocked the growth of the Nazi movement in Austria. He was certainly not a great man, he was a petty dictator.

  7. Zelea on August 30th, 2008 5:27 am

    I’ve never seen any credible data which gives support to the claim of Hitler’s Jewishness, to be frank I’m sick of hearing that accusation, Daryl Smith, Hufschmid and others have repeated it ad nauseum without any backing.

  8. Viking Crybaby on August 30th, 2008 7:46 am

    “Palin” is a Russian name, but since so many Jewster took Russian names (like they took German names) then came here, it’s likely that a Palin is Jewish. This is probably an exception seeing how here husband is (mostly?) Native Alaskan. He probably got mixed Russian ancestry from Russians who settled Alaska *first*. Meaning he’s a REAL Russian Palin, and not a Jew re-labeler.

  9. Moranen on August 30th, 2008 8:32 am

    The only video, that comes to mind, that attempted to show that Hitler was a Jew was Jim Condit Jr.’s “Final Solution to Adolph Hitler”
    http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6759022809518563654&ei=_Tm5SKbDA5-Q2gK9j5jmDA&q=jim+condit+final+solution+to+adolph+hitler

    However, much of the video is innuendo, suggestions and theories. Hitler’s alleged Jewishness seems vague and it has not been proven.

    In addition concerning Stalin. Some claim that he was a Jew too. This has not been proven either. Jewish sources do not recognize Stalin as a Jew. Some claim that his name Dzukashvili meant in Georgian language “son of a Jew” or “Jewison” (or whatever). On the other hand, some people claim that it does not mean that in Georgian. Others say that it means something like steel. I have absolutely no idea about Georgian language. Professor Lunachev, a former head of the Lenin institute, claimed that Stalin was an avid reader of the Talmud, however he did not claim that Stalin was a Jew.
    http://www.texemarrs.com/022006/george_w_bush_zionist_double_agent.htm

    A friend of mine had a source that claimed Stalin was a Jew.
    “B’nai Brith’n Messenger 3.3.1950 tells that “A former Russian general says that Stalin’s family is a Jewish family”.”
    I havent been able to verify this.

    Both of these dictators tried to get rid of Jewish influence in their countries (by deportations). Hitler before and during WW2, Stalin after the war. However, it doesnt mean that Jews did not have their vested intresses… What’s relevant, is to look at their policies and how they did or did not serve Jewish interests.

  10. Rob on August 30th, 2008 12:35 pm

    It’s primarily jews who have claimed Hitler is jewish to discredit the man in the eyes of those whites who admire him. Hitler was a jew, a scatologist, a homosexual, failed artist, paper hanger, etc. They also claim him because, in the mind of the narcissistic jews, they simply can’t accept that somebody possessed of such a genius as Hitler’s could have been a gentile that came so close to defeating them, and not a jew. The historian David Irving also put the lie of Hitler’s jewishness to rest.

  11. roscoe on August 30th, 2008 1:05 pm

    I don’t trust Irving–Open your eyes and take a look at Hitler. There is not one trace of European heritage(northern or southern) in his features.

    Where is Obomba’s mother and how come no one has interviewed her? Obomba was not born in US and this will come out.

  12. Howdy Doody on August 30th, 2008 1:51 pm

    Rosco

    Sophist at large.

  13. Rob on August 30th, 2008 3:02 pm

    Roscoe, I’ve read several of your posts, and you come across as a disrupter and a blinkered catholic fanatic. What do you think Hitler looked like, an eskimo? Are you a physical anthropologist or phrenological expert? Your evidence for his jewishness is what? Your gut feeling? Unless you’ve got hard evidence when you disparage someone, just put it to rest.

  14. roscoe on August 30th, 2008 3:27 pm

    The Idolatry awarded Hitler by some is phoney. This is not an attack on the many courageous men and women who fought Communists by allying themselves with the Axis. The truth however is that the judaics have controlled both sides of every war since 1789.

  15. K-Sensor on August 30th, 2008 3:33 pm

    Sarah Palin also proclaims Ron Paul as a ‘Good Guy’ and
    Romney as some of the same alignment. So she’s picking up even the Mormons, and the Ron Paul supporters that can’t see the trick.

  16. roscoe on August 30th, 2008 3:33 pm

    The evidence Hitler was a Rothschild originally surfaced in the book by Kohler– Inside the Gestapo. Goff has written about it also in his Hitler monograph.

    Neither Hitler, Mengele, Eichman on Himmler had blue-eyed blonde features. What these people actually are racially is unknown to me but they are not part of Western Civilisation.

  17. David Holloway on August 30th, 2008 6:00 pm

    White Alpines have dark features, to Roscoe all Balkan peoples must be Jews. Austria was part of the Austro-Hungarian empire, it is likely that Hitler had Czech ancestors (Slavic ancestry) but Roscoe has invented a bogus paradigm in which anyone who isn’t Nordic he can label as a “Jew”

  18. Rob on August 30th, 2008 6:06 pm

    What tripe, Roscoe. These fantasies have several different versions. Now the ridiculous Rothschild version! The original story was that Hitler’s 42 year old grandmother had been seduced by the 19 year old son of a wealthy jewish family named Frankenberger in Graz while she worked for them as a cook. Problem is, the jews had been expelled from Graz in the 15th century and weren’t allowed back in until the 1860s, 20 years after the time Adolf’s grandmother, Maria Schicklgruber, was supposed to have been there. There is also no record of a jewish family named Frankenberg or Frankenberger ever having resided there. In fact, there isn’t even any factual evidence Maria Schiklgruber herself had ever been to Graz. This story was made up by Hans Frank, hitler’s lawyer, after the war.
    As to Koehler, he himself admitted he couldn’t vouch for the genuiness of Dolfuss’s claims. Dolfuss had ordered an investigation into Hitler to discredit both his pedigree and military service. Dolfuss despised Hitler and wanted to call into question his anti-semitic credentials. This is your “evidence”?
    Have you ever seen pictures of Hitler’s supposedly half jewish father Alois? Does he look anything like a jew? Have you seen pictures of Hitler’s mother, who Adolf himself more resembled than his father? Does she looking anything like a jew? So once again, you claim he doesn’t look like a part of western civ, but you further state they are racially unknown to you? What else would a fair-skinned and blue-eyed white man like Hitler look like to you? You sound confused, Roscoe. But that’s what fanatical hot-headed abrahamic semitic religiosity does to people. It clouds their reasoning. Come back when you’ve got a stronger argument based on hard evidence and you’ve worked out the contradictions in your own mind.

  19. David Holloway on August 30th, 2008 6:51 pm

    The absurdity of the claims made about Hitler are unreal. I’m supposed to believe that the grandson of a Rothschild fought in the First World War for 4 years and was wounded several times? If Hitler was such a “Rothschild” don’t you think he would have been kept far away from the battlefront? And funny how this “secret Rothschild” who was in the Nazi party in 1920 took 13 years to come to power? Rothschild waited 13 years to bring his grandson to power for the benefit of Israel? If the creation of Nazi Germany benefitted Israel then why not bring Hitler to power in 1920? Why run the risk of having your secret agent/grandson killed in those 13 years by a potential assassin’s bullet?

  20. K-Sensor on August 30th, 2008 7:01 pm

    Good point David about Hitler and first WW.

  21. Rob on August 30th, 2008 7:22 pm

    David, this was all a part of the ruse. Those jews had to make it look good, so they gave him the highly dangerous job of runner with a high probability of death, and faked Adolf’s blinding by gas and falsely awarded him the Iron Cross….LOL!!!!!

    Of course, the greatest evidence that Adolf was a jew, according to these armchair warrior/general critics, is that he had the temerity to lose the war. This just proves once and for all that the jew Hitler was a part of the entire kosher setup, and he deliberately forfeited the war, don’t ya know.

  22. roscoe on August 30th, 2008 10:06 pm

    There is no way Hitler could have built the German war machine without judaics because they controlled all the money in the world after 1914 and 1929- Shankus posted recently about how Warburg was still in Germany as late as 1939–there were judaics all around Hitler; see Kardell==Hitler: founder Of Israel. Dolfuss was killed for a reason–he must have been on to something.

    As far as Hitlers wounds and awards during wwI, these morons make up things and give themselves phoney decorations all the time.

    Whoever Hitlers parents really were, he does not resemble a European in any way.

    Was he a straw man who lost the war on purpose? I think so because he allowed the Commie double agent Gehlen to feed him phoney info about Russian military strength- this resulted in the Stalingrad disaster. He also let the British go at Dunquirk.

    As far as inventng a false paradigm that says anyone who is not Nordic is a judaic, I am not Nordic.

  23. David Holloway on August 30th, 2008 10:58 pm

    Roscoe, do you even read what you write? If all of the money in the world at that time was controlled by Jews then your Catholic hero Dolfuss was himself controlled by Jewish money.

    Dolfuss doesn’t look European either!

    http://www.glenstephens.com/jan07-Austria%20Dolfuss%20scan%202.jpg

  24. roscoe on August 30th, 2008 11:37 pm

    I think he looks European. As Catholics we are bound to detest Communism and Nazi-ism alike; I believe Dolfuss to be a martyr as his actions would have prevented the war.

    Springmeier has even claimed that A Lincoln was a Rothschild

    The Hitler was a Judaic controversy has been going on for quite some time on Shankradio and I am pretty sure Peter agrees that Hitler was just a wind up toy like Mookie use to call him– and Mussolini also.

  25. David Holloway on August 31st, 2008 12:44 am

    The theme of patriot radio seems to be to blame the Axis Powers for WWII, the fact of the Allies declaring war on Germany somehow gets lost in the story. Conveniently the ones blaming the Axis powers current live in Allied countries so that their relatives who fought for the Allies don’t get blamed or look foolish for helping spread Jewish domination.

  26. roscoe on August 31st, 2008 12:49 am

    Your first sentence should properly read…the theme of PATRIOTARD radioseems to be…..

  27. katman on August 31st, 2008 8:45 am

    I’ve never seen any credible data which gives support to the claim of Hitler’s Jewishness, to be frank I’m sick of hearing that accusation, Daryl Smith, Hufschmid and others have repeated it ad nauseum without any backing.<<<<

    whether or not he was or not, perhaps we will never know for sure. I can say this. A incredible amount of time is used trying to find out if that is true or not. But when one looks at the big picture about world war 2 , then you have to ask yourself. Were jewish aims accomplished ? That question must be answered in the affirmative. Israel was created. Jews migrated to Israel. The dumb stupid white germanic men killed each other. White Russians died by the millions. Population control was accomplished. The jewish goals as a result of world war 2 were completed attained. So one would gather, does it really matter at this point , if Hitler was in on it or not. The fact is, that he helped the cause of the jew one way or the other, whether knowingly or not. What else can be said? When you commit your nation to war against the world, is this a smart thing to do? hardly. The smart thing to do was to take back lands stolen after world war 1 and do some payback, there is no doubt. But then leave it there. this would have stopped the jews in their tracks and all of their plans would have been annulled. The military industrial complex was alive and well in Germany during those times. Without war, they don’t exist. Without war, they don’t make money. Now the salient question to be asked is……who is it that owns the miltary industrial complex? Is it these retired white generals that show their faces? or is it the white men who sit on boards of these companies? nope. as usual it is the men in the shadows that have the real power and they are of jewish extraction……

  28. katman on August 31st, 2008 9:00 am

    Hitler was a good Catholic. So were his parents. Catholic and jewish intrigue was alive and well in germany during those times.

  29. roscoe on August 31st, 2008 2:16 pm

    It is true that the Catholic Church reached a concordat with Facist Italy and Germany. This was later proved to be a chimera as both persecuted the Church and Pius XI strongly condemmed Nazi’s and Communists. While coming to power Hitler(like Cecil and James) pretended to be some sort of friend to Catholics but this quickly changed.

    Katmans rap on Columbus being a Judaic is the same as the BS that Hitler was a Catholic– just a continual attack on Holy Church coming from whatever quarter is convenient at the moment.

  30. Rob on August 31st, 2008 3:20 pm

    >>>The fact is, that he helped the cause of the jew one way or the other, whether knowingly or not. What else can be said? When you commit your nation to war against the world, is this a smart thing to do? hardly.<<<

    There you have it. The absurd logic I was talking about. First off, Hitler did not commit to war against the world. The facts are Hitler WAS trying to get back traditionally German lands and reunite all Germans within the reich. Gdansk, orginally Danzig, was traditionally German land, not Polish. The Brits and French egged on the Poles to stubbornly not give in to German demands regarding that territory, and when German finally invaded, it was Britain and France who first declared war on Germany over Poland, the same Poland they ultimately gave to Stalin including the entire eastern bloc after the war. So because of Germany ultimately losing against the jew you blame him? Did you have any relatives during our “greatest generation” fighting against Germany?

  31. Rob on August 31st, 2008 3:32 pm

    Roscoe, you sound more like a disengenuous sophist kike spreading disinfo more than anything else. Your thought processes are not that of a logical man of European derivation. I don’t think you are. In fact, you’ve already indicated that as a catholic fanatic you are “bound” to detest national socialism, just like jews detest it and teach all Aryans cradle to grave to detest it. I guess kike-alikes who suspend reason in favor of blind worship of middle eastern oriental semitic mind manure think alike and indicates tainted blood.

  32. David Holloway on August 31st, 2008 4:23 pm

    >who is it that owns the miltary industrial complex? Is it these retired white generals that show their faces? or is it the white men who sit on boards of these companies? nope. as usual it is the men in the >shadows that have the real power and they are of jewish extraction

    The Krupp’s steel dynasty was Jewish? Only on the internet do I encounter the bizarre idea that there were no gentile millionaires in Germany, every rich person in Germany was a Jew!

  33. David Holloway on August 31st, 2008 4:34 pm

    >Rob-So because of Germany ultimately losing against the jew you blame him? Did you have any relatives during our “greatest >generation” fighting against Germany?

    It is my conclusion that this is what it always comes back to, you’ve got people living in Allied nations who hate the New World Order but they cling to the idea of their WWII veteran grandfathers and uncles as heroes. The only way to handle the discomforting conflict between these ideas is to place the blame AWAY from America and Britain and directly onto Hitler.

  34. David Holloway on August 31st, 2008 4:49 pm

    Roscoe is extremely unscientific. When challenged on Columbus being Jewish he responds to it as a slanderous insult while to Roscoe Hitler being a Jew is the most obvious thing in the world.

    Here’s the bottom line on Roscoe:

    When he likes someone they aren’t Jewish, when he doesn’t like someone they are Jewish, what they actually look like (as proven by my Dolfuss example) isn’t important to him***

    *** When I searched for a photo of Austrian chancellor Dolfuss I was actually shocked at how Non-Aryan he looked.

  35. roscoe on August 31st, 2008 5:31 pm

    1517–Luther
    1535–Henry and also Calvin
    1559-Elizabeth
    1649–Cromwell
    1688–Orange
    1757–Suppression of Jesuits in France
    1773–Suppression of the Jesuits
    1789–Bastille
    1801–Assassination of Czar Paul I
    1824–Alex I sends Michaud to Rome in an attempt to carry out the wishes of his father; Alex is then killed
    1836–Pope Gregory is forced to borrow money from Rothschild
    1870–Pius IX is ‘thrown out’ of Rome
    1914–Deaths of Card Rampolla and Pius X; Assassimation of Franz-Ferdinand; Fed and 16th Amendment; WWI, bogus ‘election’ of the anti-pope Benedict 15
    1918–Bolos
    1929–stock market crashes putting the stooges Hitler and Roosevelt in power
    1948–Founding of the anti-christ Israeli state
    1958–takeover of the Vatican by anti-christ judaic coup
    1963–Lee Harvey Ozwald proclaims “This Is It”
    2001–911
    2012–End Time scenario where all who have not reconciled themselves to the Infallible Constitution of the Roman Catholic Church perish. Earth slams into the Photonic Band. St’s Peter and Paul return to Earth and supervise the election of a true Pope to Succeed Pius XII. All live happily ever after.

  36. roscoe on August 31st, 2008 5:39 pm

    my apologies for omitting

    1900–Assassination of Pres McKinley
    1935(?)–Assassination of Huey Long

  37. katman on August 31st, 2008 5:40 pm

    Gee Rob,

    what is it you want anyway? Do you want us as Americans to adopt brown uniforms to wear and red arm bands and have us goose step around saying ….Sieg Heil? I don’t know anyone that is going to do that. What happened in Germany during world war 2, should stay in Germany. It was not the answer to anything that benefits the white race, on that you can be sure. Let me ask you.

    A American jew named, Jack Bernstein got mad about some of things he saw when he immigrated to Israel. He wrote a book called…..The Life of an American Jew in Racist Marxist Israel…..

    In this book he stated some interesting theories of his own reguarding national socialism and the term nazi……..

    he stated, that it is interesting how the the term nazi is the last 4 letters of the term used for european jews , that being
    ashkenazi….

    is this some kind of strange coincidence?

    so I ask you. do you think he made a interesting point? I think he did.

  38. katman on August 31st, 2008 6:02 pm

    Alfried Krupp

    http://ww2db.com/person_bio.php?person_id=328

    he sure had a big nose and either he had been playing a lot of golf in the sun , etc when this picture was taken.

  39. katman on August 31st, 2008 6:03 pm

    2012–End Time scenario where all who have not reconciled themselves to the Infallible Constitution of the Roman Catholic Church perish. Earth slams into the Photonic Band. St’s Peter and Paul return to Earth and supervise the election of a true Pope to Succeed Pius XII. All live happily ever after.<<<<<

    Roscoe, that is what is called tin foil

    Isn’t it?

    where did you get this clapp trapp from?

  40. roscoe on August 31st, 2008 6:14 pm

    I have always figured the Krupp to be judaics. Bernstiens book is bogus but the word nazi taken in it’s most literal sense just means a nationalist of whatever kind.

    In Italian the word national is spelled nazionale

  41. roscoe on August 31st, 2008 6:42 pm

    Full revised edition of the above timeline

    1303-1314–Suppression of the Templar order and deposition of the anti-pope Boniface by Philip the Fair and the Popes (BL) Benedict XI, and Clement V. Philip along with his sons and PM Nogaret are assassinated.
    1348–Plague
    1492–Isabella expells Judaics from Spain and sends Columbus to new world
    1517–Luther
    1535–Henry and Calvin
    1559-Elizabeth
    1649–Cromwell
    1688–Orange
    1738–Condemnation of Freemasonry by Pope Clement XII
    1757–Suppression of Jesuits in France
    1773–Suppression of Jesuits
    1789–Bastille
    1801–Assassination of Czar Paul I
    1824–Alex I sends Michaud to Rome in an attempt to carry out the wishes of his father(see council of Florence-1054)
    1836–Pope Gregory forced to borrow money from Rothschild
    1870–Pope Pius IX is ‘thrown out’ of Rome
    1900–Assassination of Pres McKinley
    1914–Deaths of Cardinal Rampolla and St. Pius X; assassination of Franz-Ferdinand; ‘election’ of the anti-pope Beneduct 15, Fed, 16th amendment; WWi
    1917–Bolos
    1929-33–Stock market crash puts the stooges Hitler and Rosenvelt in power
    1935–Assassination of Huey Long
    1948–Establishment of anti-christ Israeli state
    1958–Usurpation of the throne of St Peter by Judaics
    1963–Lee Harvey Ozwald proclaims ‘This Is It”, Beatles
    2001–911
    2012–End time scenario where all who have not submitted to the Infallible Constitution of the Catholic Church perish; Solar system slams into the Photonic Band; St’s Peter and Paul; return to Earth and supervise the election of a true Pope to succeed Pius XII. All live happily ever after

  42. roscoe on August 31st, 2008 7:01 pm

    The addition of the following two dates is appropriate

    1633–Condemnation of Galileo by INQ
    1957–Death of Sen McCarthy

  43. David Holloway on August 31st, 2008 7:17 pm

    Katman, you’ve just repeated the oldest major fallacy in the patriot community, the Nazis never called themselves “Nazis”, they were “National Socialists”

    The term “Nazi” was invented by Bavarians who liked to shorten long words and it caught on with the press.

    National Sozialismus became “Nazi”

  44. Rob on August 31st, 2008 7:39 pm

    Katman, that’s a retarded point. Nazi was coined by the Germans at the time as an abbreviation for Nationalsozialismus, which is German for National Socialism. That’s where it comes from, and has nothing to do with ashkenazi, as difficult as that may be for you to grasp.
    As to your statement “What happened in Germany during world war 2, should stay in Germany. It was not the answer to anything that benefits the white race, on that you can be sure,” I’ve heard some really doozies, and this one has got to be near the top of the heap. The notion that the man and the movement which in modern Europe incarnated the struggle of western man against the semitic plague had nothing to do with the struggle of the white race, is a logic from a parallel dimension. Quite frankly, when I read stuff like this from you and the religious cook Roscoe, I think to myself, Americans really deserve their fate. Honestly, Americans and British who still justify their slaughter of their racial Germanic kinsmen in Germany at the behest of their jew masters aren’t worthy of sucking the scum from under a single German NS soldier’s toenails. Peter’s an intelligent man and I assumed his listeners were of a higher quality, but I’m seeing my assumption was not well-founded. Sounds like a lot of run of the mill patriotard yahoos frequent this site and listen to his show.

  45. katman on August 31st, 2008 8:24 pm

    well frankly I think the concept of national socialism was a jewish concept from its beginning and this was done on purpose. The dumb stupid white men said to themselves….duh, we have something to help us here now……..horay horay…….but alas, what was it. to the communist in the north, they needed the opposite side of the coin , fascism or whatever ism flavor there is this month. and so out of the clear blue sky came national socialism right on que. For you see, it was needed right then at that moment in time, and right there at that particular location. so it became what it was and it was supported by the blind masses , the german sheep if you will. the sheep bought into it hook line and sinker, never mind the fact that the star of david and the nazi flag flew side by side in germany. never mind that fact. national socialism was a invention of the jew for the particular time period and that particular place in history for a particular reason. it is what it is. a piece in the puzzle using the hegelian dialectic. so now the jews invented two opposing forces to fight each other and while they are doing it, white men die in great numbers, the population of the earth decreases and the jews make enormous sums of money selling weapons and equipment to both sides. for you see they are a nation within a nation. i am sorry for you national socialist brainiacs who want to believe so much that your hero , adolf hitler was the greatest thing since sliced bread. i am afraid he was not. wasn’t it peter shank that said one time, something along the lines of ……why should we be comdemned to repeat the failed european political policies of the past? i believe it was. and since i have been gone for a while, our buddy, hal turner closed up shop, so it would appear that some of the aberrant ns types who were casting silly vituperative comments there, have come here to argue minute points of national socialism. I will not submit to national socialism. I will not goose step. I will not wear brown clothing, shave my head , get tats or wear shiney black boots. I will not say sieg heil all the time. This I pwomise!

  46. roscoe on August 31st, 2008 8:28 pm

    I have never attempted to justify the slaughter of the Axis by the Allies. IMO, we would have been better off if the Krauts had one. But it is irrelevant as the end was a set-up from the beginning with the straw man Hitler and his Communist double agents especially Gehlen laying down as they were suppose to.

  47. David Holloway on August 31st, 2008 9:15 pm

    Katman is an Anti-Nazi fanatic, no one ever suggested that believing in and respecting Nazi ideas on race means that you have to go around wearing Nazi uniforms and Sieg Heiling. Katman is an American who grew up hating Hitler and the Third Reich and this attitude developed in the 1950′s and still exists today, it is a big part of American popular culture, tough wrestling fan rowdy working class White Americans bragging about how their grandpa killed 30 Germans in the Battle of the Bulge. It is macho bullcrap but Katman ate it up and still does. That’s what being a patriotard is all about, it is about shifting the blame just enough to some group of people that you aren’t a part of and then you can keep your childhood myths alive.

    As children you loved how your parents told you that America saved the world from the Nazis and the Japs, this misplaced macho bravado prevents a lot of people from embracing White Nationalism.

  48. katman on August 31st, 2008 9:38 pm

    hey dave

    are those facts you are mentioning or

    are they your opinion?

    prove me wrong, point by point. and i will listen to your words. but until then, this song remains the same.

    hey i used to like wresting too.
    the women had their soaps and we rednecks had our wrestling.

    as my homie, stone cold steve austin used to say, thats the bottom line……cause katman said so………

    by the way dave. i support white nationalism but what does that have to do with national socialism???????????

  49. David Holloway on August 31st, 2008 9:48 pm

    Katman, I think it is kind of obvious that no one seriously expects you to wear a brownshirt in 2008.

    I grew up in a White middle class American family just like most Americans, but there comes a time when you have to realize that all of the “kickin’ butt on D-Day” bragging is uneducated plebian behavior, it is a disgrace to western civilization.

    I had a friend in high school who wanted to fight against the New World Order and one day I was over at his house and met his father and his father carried the common plebian vice, mindless flag-waving, hating foreign nations for reasons invented by people inside the TV set. My friend was very submissive to his father and I could tell that breaking away from his Dad’s controlling mindset would be difficult for him. I just found it depressing that here are middle class Whites who define their sense of identity and manhood by killing people in foreign countries over vague spur of the moment reasons.

    A lot of this demonize Hitler rhetoric is based on ANGER, your anger at being unable to deal with the unthinking/plebian nature of your recent family line. My grandmother worshipped Franklin Roosevelt until the day she died in 2005, I can handle admitting that people in my family were wrong, but can you?

  50. David Holloway on August 31st, 2008 9:56 pm

    When I imagine Adolf Hitler I don’t see the demon of patriotard lore, I see a man who was essentially young at heart who wanted to build large Greek buildings all over Europe. I see a man who wanted the best for Germany and the German people.

    Albert Speer once told a story about how Hitler was visiting some small German town before the war and Hitler saw that the town’s theater was old and too small. Right there on the spot Hitler sketched up a model for a large new theater for the town. And then right in front of the town’s mayor Hitler said, “This town shall have a new theater”. The mayor said, “My Fuehrer but it will cost too much money” Hitler shook his head and said, “Doesn’t matter, what matters is that the people here have a nice theater they can come to, enjoy, and be proud of”

    That’s the Hitler I know, this other Hitler the patriotards conjure up is the product of TV movies and cartoon caricatures.

  51. katman on August 31st, 2008 10:16 pm

    dave. i don’t disagree with most of what you have said. how about that? all i am saying is we research, research, research. national socialism is not the answer. this i know. any organization like that will be controlled one way or the other just like it is now. is it not true that the head of the american nazi party has now been outed as being a jew and double agent of some sort? i am not sure where you guys are getting this idea about being angry at germans for what happened in world war 2. I am not and I don’t know anyone that is or was for that matter. Now then some of the old men who had things happen to them and saw things that they should not have saw because of the inhumanity of war, well sure they were angry but just about all of them had no idea of why they did what they did or what was really going on. another words ,they were asleep. i have talked to some of them here and there, and they just cannot bring themselves to believe that their own government sold them out to war for nothing. that war and almost all wars are fought for nothing, for no good reason. enemies are created for us, so we fight them. men die for nothing. drugs are introduced into neighborhoods. black men kill each other. sell them to white men. rich men get richer. we get taxed and taxed and the police state continues to take up the slack and nothing ever gets better, it only gets worse. such is the way it is in this country and this world now. roscoe makes disparaging remarks about george washington, yet old george left the confort of his home to go and fight a war, that he was not sure they would win, knowing full well that defeat would have meant certain death for him and his wife and the destruction of his farm. yet he did it. at the end of that war, his uniform was retired and in it were numerous bullet holes from shots fired at him that missed. he led from the front, not the back. talk about the man of the hour. the man came during that time and we are a better people for it. so saying all of that i say this. ron paul is the man of the hour now, imho. he is a old man but full of wisdom in his years. i heard him a couple of weeks ago talking about civil disobedience on the alex jones show. i could not believe it. the time is now. the time is short. there are no more time for talking. as time goes by, they grow stronger and we go weaker. i speak not as some kind of head case, or some kind of brave man , nor do i want it. for i know that when it happens, it will not be pretty. but to get the freedom and liberty we want now, it will take at least two generations. and as far as i am concerned. might as well get started. of course peter says it will never happen. perhaps he is right. one can only hope he is wrong( i think)….. it will start out small and grow. but since we are many races now, it will be complex and the ten percent will be scattered before the winds but with God , all things are possible.

    by the way dave, consider yourself lucky to have grown up in a middle class american family. such things will be extinct in short order. the jews are destroying our economic system as we type. the retirement benefits that the dumb stupid goyim have saved up over the last 50 years or so of work are imho, already stolen. they just haven’t told anyone yet. this is a jewish crime. jews think in these big terms. banking is nothing more than a big jewish syndicate and their goal is to steal all of the money that the americans have in order to break them, to destroy them and to eventually make them slaves , even more than they are now. we are not free. we have never been free. we don’t know what freedom is. we don’t know what liberty is . yet so many of these assholes running around here riding on their harleys with their long hair flowing in the wind………saying look at me…….i am a free man……….sure you are pal. just keep telling yourself that. when i first woke up i used to go around and tell people what is going on and what is to happen and they laughed at me and called me crazy and that i needed to be committed. etc etc………so i shut up about it more or less. every once in a while i break out in expository discussion on things but not often. my favorite place to go argue with the war hawks is on liveleak.com there are many war lovers there , who swallow the whole idea of army good, iraqis bad, etc etc………it is sickening. when i first started on there i was about the only one. but now after 7 years of war, there are cracks that are becoming more and more visible in this false lie that is called the modern volunteer army which i call the modern volunteer mercenary army for the jews………they just love it when i talk like that……ha ha ha……

    very well…….i can go on for a long time but i quit now………..

  52. roscoe on August 31st, 2008 10:21 pm

    Rabbi Cooper of the Weasenthal Center is on KFI-Los Angeles at this time claiming that Tehran and Moscow are allies. He says the combination is a danger for Jeusalem

  53. katman on August 31st, 2008 10:35 pm

    dave , why did hitler refuse to let Field Marshal Erwin Rommel’s Army Group B attack the allied landing in France on D Day? why did hitler constantly pester and annoy and micro manage the war, with such disastrous results? why did hitler put a paper pusher , a man with no combat experience (von paulus) in charge of the german army at stalingrad? a battle that the germans should had won but didn’t ? what was the purpose of trying to push to moscow before the winter set in when you could have waited and dug in. hilter had the oil fields. what else did he need from russia? general blaskowitz, commander of army group H in the netherlands was asked about the russian invasion and he pointed at the map of russia and then he pointed at the map of germany. another words he was saying it was insane to do this. yet hitler was doing it. hitler sent his army into russia without winter provsions. i guess he had never heard of napoleon. hitler had some of the finest officers in the world, classically trained and much bettter more or less than the americans yet he constantly looked over their shoulders and would not let them fight the war, the way it had to be fought. roscoe was right about one thing though. it would have been better to help the germans against the russians. even patton came to this conclusion, not long before he had his unfortunate accident and died in the hospital of non life threatening wounds , at the hands of a jewish doctor…………….of course…….

  54. katman on August 31st, 2008 10:42 pm

    roscoe, the jews will not quit whining until we attack the iranians. many generals realize this will be the last straw for us and are resisting this even now. i hope they continue this resistance. if we attack them, we shall never hear the end of it. whatever respect the arabs and persians have for us now will forever be lost . if we use nukes on those people , we shall forever regret it. i am very afraid we will. recently 3 carrier battle groups left for that area. i suppose they are on station now off of iran. the morons. the iranians have sunburn missles that have the capability to elude our present day countermeasures. they skim very low to the water as they approach the target and are hard to pick up on radar. by the time you see them it is too late….

  55. katman on August 31st, 2008 10:47 pm

    by the way dig this. we now have american coast guard ships in the black sea. can you believe that? american coast guard ships in the black sea? i thought their job was to patrol our coast. this bush is going to get us into war, you mark my words….the traitorous scumbag………

  56. katman on August 31st, 2008 11:23 pm
  57. katman on August 31st, 2008 11:25 pm
  58. Rob on August 31st, 2008 11:59 pm

    David, I think Katman deliberately left out a z in between the t and m of his name, because he sounds like a freakin’ kike. Other types like religous nut Roscoe are so afraid of the kike and have built him up into such a super invincible demon, that basically, if there were ever another man and movement like Hitler’s to galvanize the masses, these blowhard pinheads wouldn’t lift a finger because they’d be convinced right off the bat that the jews are behind it all and that it’s a lost cause,

  59. Rob on September 1st, 2008 12:44 am

    >>>why did hitler refuse to let Field Marshal Erwin Rommel’s Army Group B attack the allied landing in France on D Day?<<>>why did hitler constantly pester and annoy and micro manage the war, with such disastrous results?<<>>why did hitler put a paper pusher , a man with no combat experience (von paulus) in charge of the german army at stalingrad? <<>>what was the purpose of trying to push to moscow before the winter set in when you could have waited and dug in. hilter had the oil fields. what else did he need from russia? <<>>general blaskowitz, commander of army group H in the netherlands was asked about the russian invasion and he pointed at the map of russia and then he pointed at the map of germany. another words he was saying it was insane to do this. yet hitler was doing it. hitler sent his army into russia without winter provsions<<<

    Archival soviet documents which have been made public reveal clearly that Stalin was within weeks of attacking Germany from the east. Hitler’s attack was a pre-emptive gamble. Victor Suvorov covered this in “Icebreaker”, and new Russian textbooks are planned to reflect this fact, though they refer to Stalin’s planned attack as a plan for a “preemptive” strike on Germany.

    Your points “proving” Hitler’s alleged jewish machinations are null and void.

  60. Rob on September 1st, 2008 12:48 am

    You’re confused. Rommel was on leave on D-day. As to placement of available tank forces, there was debate between Rommel and von Rundstedt as where they would best be placed. Rommel favored forward deployment to attack the allied forces headon. Von Rundstedt had doubts and wanted them further back away from the allied navies’ firepower. You see a jewish Hitler conspiring here? koo koo……

    Hitler micromanaged because in the past he had been on occasion proved right when his commanders were timid. The attack on the “impregnable” Belgian fortress of Eban Emael was totally Hitler’s strategy and tactics using paratroopers, hollow charges, and gliders. He planned the entire thing, and repeated the success at Crete, though with greater casualties.

    You need to at least do a minimal amount of research on a topic before writing such nonsense. I won’t even dignify the comments regarding von Paulus and Stalingrad..

    As for pushing to Moscow, the capital being the command center of any nation, ever hear of an army regrouping and going on the offensive, especially an army from a country which had a population 3 times that of the invading country?

    Also, Ya think he might have planned on knocking out Russia as soon possible and reconcentrating on the still extant western front?

    As to the alleged insanity of attacking the soviet union, archival soviet documents which have been made public reveal clearly that Stalin was within weeks of attacking Germany from the east. Hitler’s attack was a pre-emptive gamble. Victor Suvorov covered this in “Icebreaker”, and new Russian textbooks are planned to reflect this fact, though they refer to Stalin’s planned attack as a plan for a “preemptive” strike on Germany.

    Your points “proving” Hitler’s alleged jewish machinations are null and void.

  61. Zelea on September 1st, 2008 4:33 am

    Katman, your argument against organized political movements is defeatism. You sound more like a national anarchist than a white nationalist.

  62. roscoe on September 1st, 2008 3:38 pm

    Hitler was a Judaic. This is just about the only time I have ever agreed with katman. The von Paulus info sounds accurate especially in light of what is known of the Communist double agent Gehlen. I am tired of hearing from Mookie how Gehlen was some sort of Paperclip Nazi white man who is in the Germanic death cult.

  63. roscoe on September 1st, 2008 3:41 pm

    I have not read Irving’s Hitlers War but it sounds from the title that it was Hitlers War to win or lose. He lost it and contributed to the disaster inflicted on the German people as well as the rest of Europe and the world.

  64. roscoe on September 1st, 2008 8:59 pm

    D Holloway–Your theory about Chancellor Dolfuss being controlled by Judaic money doesn’t make it as they wouldn’r have had to kill him if he was.

  65. Wolf on September 2nd, 2008 12:29 am

    If Hitler was a jew then he was the greatest jew who ever lived.

  66. katman on September 2nd, 2008 10:12 pm

    Roscoe, is that website, officially recognized by the Catholic Church? If it is, then perhaps you can explain to me how they can publish such information on a official Catholic website with a UK abbreviation on the end of the URL which indicates the physical location is in the UK. Therefore one would conclude that this website is in violation of the Racial and Religious Hatred Act 2006.

    http://www.opsi.gov.uk/acts/acts2006/ukpga_20060001_en_1

    Therefore logically one would also conclude that if this is true and it is , then why is this website allowed to continue? Heck if some mainline Protestant website had such information or supposition on it, I can almost guarantee you that it would be taken down almost immediately, the owners imprisoned and fined and would never be heard from again. So the question begs to be asked. Why is this site allowed to publish such material in jolly old England, unless……….unless, its some kind of honey pot operation harvesting IP numbers in Europe and England etc so the goons squad can write this information down in the big chief tablets for use later…..just remember roscoe,

    a little leaven spoils the whle loaf …..

  67. roscoe on September 2nd, 2008 10:25 pm

    the website in question is http://www.catholicvoice.co.uk

    i do not know who runs the website and what you are referring to with your phrase ‘publish such information’–please explain what you are getting at. I just found the articles interesting. Possibly maurice knows more about the site.

  68. roscoe on September 3rd, 2008 3:24 am

    It is interesting that according to km, apparently no Prot website has pub ‘such info’ and would be shut down if it tried. CV has done many good things but there are a few questions. They link to Aztlan and have cancelled their link to Springmeier. They are ass also with Hoffman who has done good work but there are questions there for me also. His partner Mr Hiembichner( along with Catholic Family News and Dimond Bros) has accused Cardinal Rampolla of being a nefarious person of note which is completely untrue. This understanding is crucial lest one presume the characters of Leo XIII, Pius X, and Cardinal Raphael Merry Del Valle to be corrupt. And also lest one fall for the trick that the policies of the anti-pope Benedict 15 or Pope Pius Xii(who it seems is not technically an anti-pope) originate in the mind of Card Rampolla. Ciao

  69. katman on September 3rd, 2008 4:33 pm

    roscoe you keep referring to this guy springmeir. Surely you know he is serving time in Oregon State prison for armed robbery? Now I ask you in a legal sense. Would this guy make a good witness or would it be a good idea to believe the words of a convicted felon? Please don’t tell me he was set up, etc. Why in the hell would the ptb, waste time setting up this chump? He was about as useless as tits on a boar hog. I read his book when i first woke up but now looking back , i realize he is just another tard trying to make a fast buck.

    Also Roscoe, if this website is officially supported by the Catholic Church and from all indications it is, then perhaps you can explain to me why they are allowing this tin foil hat conspiracy stuff on their official website, since for all intents and purposes it is my understanding that the Catholic Church has been attempting the last few years to mend fences, if you will, with the jews?

    Now , be sure and understand. I believe most of the information on that site is correct. But that is just me. Now when we move into the politically sensitive world of Vatican relationships with the jews, then one would have to scratch his proverbial head and wonder what is going on here…….

    would you agree with that assumption?

  70. katman on September 3rd, 2008 4:38 pm

    Peter, just for your information. This week I am running a special on some used Berkey water filters and brand new bottles of iodine tablets and some brand new never used, radiation detectors. Presently they are listed on craigslist San Antonio. Let me know if you are interested. I can make you a real sweetheart deal on this stuff pal………:)

  71. roscoe on September 3rd, 2008 7:33 pm

    Springmeier is one of the most complicated of cases. I have never believed that he was guilty of armed robbery and don’t even believe the story of him being in prison in Oregon. Even in prison after all these years he would have been able to contact someone with a letter of some sort. No one ever heard from him again as far as I know.

    He wrote a number of books–which one did you read?

    I doubt very much that Catholicvoice is approved by the v2 ‘church’ and as such, I believe the info to be accurate.

    One does not have to scratch ones proverbial head and wonder what is going on if one would get off the idea that The RCC(Vatican I Church) is somehow in collusion with judaics as you seem to believe.

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