Rothschild Conspiracies, Turks, and Jew-Gentile Relations: Several not quite random thoughts.

June 25, 2008

by Hereward Lindsay

June 21, 2008

Part I

Rothschild conspiracy stuff has generally been detrimental to serious consideration of the problems in relations between Jews and Non-Jews.

It is true that the Rothschilds emerged early in the course of Jewish emancipation in Europe as a major financial player.

It is also true that they were loyal to their race and used that power to assist Jews around the world and to push an agenda favorable to their ilk.

I am not an expert on Rothschilds but am aware that they influenced British policy and were able to nudge the British to help Jews around the world in the heyday of the British Empire. The Rothschilds played a role, for instance, in getting the British (and the French) to intervene in the 1800′s when the Turks arrested a number of Jews in Damascus and accused them of the ritual murder of a Catholic priest. This is an interesting incident of which many readers will be aware, but I’ll return to this item in Part II of this commentary.

While the Rothschilds certainly used their influence to impact policies in Britain and elsewhere, I doubt the Rothschild banks were ever the all-powerful-power-behind-the-throne they have been made out to be in the literature of anti-Semitism.

And whatever the role the Rothschilds played in the 19th century, they do not appear to be significant now or in the past several generations.

There are scads of Jewish-owned or -controlled banks vastly more powerful than the Rothschilds. The Rothschilds do not appear to play much of a role any more.

Indeed, it appears that one of the Rothschild scions, Victor Rothschild, may have been a low level Communist spy on the fringes of the Cambridge cell. If the Rothschilds ever were the mega-power element within a Jewish conspiracy, which some conspiracy theorists make them out to be, then the descent from omnipotent string pullers to serving Stalin as a second-tier member of a Stalinist spy ring is a shocking example of downward social mobility.

I have long had the opinion that the Establishment pushes conspiracy theories as a distraction. The intent is to distract the most active and observant opposition from the obvious and also to discredit conspiracy theories in general.

As I once told Sam Francis (the only thing I ever told him that he quoted and made his own — truly flattering) that conspiracy theories along the lines of the Bilderberg, Council on Foreign Relations, Illuminati and Rothschild ones actually give reason for optimism. If they were true, all that would be necessary to set the world right regarding all of the above “conspiracies” would be for someone to call the police at the right moment and have the conspirators arrested. Presto! All problems solved! Just nip the whole matter in the bud by arresting the bad guys!

Alas, life isn’t so easy.

The Rothschilds are not the masterminds of a Jewish conspiracy.

Nor is it necessary that there be a hidden hand directing Jewish depredations against Europeans.

The average Jew does not need to be directed and micromanaged by the Learned Elders of Zion.

Jews are perfectly capable on an individual basis of knowing what needs to be done for their community to flourish and triumph. They know it as easily as many of our readers know what things benefit, and what things hurt, the White Christian European community.

Jews instinctively fear and feel threatened by nationalistic, particularistic societies.

They know that when societies enjoy a robust, patriotic self-confidence, there is little scope for Jewish advancement and control.

Elizabethan England, Renaissance Florence, Periclean Athens and Siglo de Oro Spain are all examples of societies in which by definition the scope of Jewish activity in commerce, culture and government would necessarily be dramatically confined.

In any such society the chances that there would be, for instance, two foreign-born Jews in one generation serving as Secretary of State and controlling foreign policy (I am referring, of course, to Henry Kissinger and Madeline Albright) would be zero. In any of these four examples of patriotic, self-confident societies the Kissingers and the Albrights would have as little chance to rise to control of the country’s foreign policy as a Scottish Presbyterian or Spanish Catholic would of taking charge of the Foreign Office of the State of Israel.

The Kissingers and Albrights would ineluctably be squeezed out and marginalized. Instead of directing foreign policy of the entire nation, they would be pressing pants in a laundry—just as their coreligionist Leon Trotsky did in Brooklyn until the Russian Revolution opened up vast and new opportunities to him and others similarly situated not available to them in the bad old days of pre-war Europe.

No one needs to explain to Kissinger or Albright or to any Jew living, say, in the small town South what policies endanger Jews and their interests and what policies benefit them.

Jews favor multi-ethnic, divided, demoralized, degenerate societies as instinctively as bees build beehives.

And this is the core of the problem.

While, contrary to the wildest anti-Semitic theorists, there do exist “civilized Jews” (Paul Gottfried comes to mind immediately), they necessarily are the exceptions.

Jews have existed and persisted as a distinct, separate racial, religious and cultural people through two millennia of dispersion among the “Gentiles” (from the Latin translation of goyim, the often derogatory Hebrew phrase) not by merely being a people who dwell apart or remain separate but by being at all times adversarial to any society in which they live. (I do not use “people who dwell apart” in any sense as a slap at Kevin MacDonald’s title of that phrase which necessarily was moderate. In fact, a prominent aspect of MacDonald’s work is that Jews have formed a hostile elite whenever they have had the opportunity.)

The only way for a dispersed minority to survive for two millennia under the circumstances in which the Jews found themselves is to be hostile and adversarial to the host society.

Merely being different would not suffice, just as it did not suffice in the case of the French Huguenots who came to South Carolina in the 1600s.

The Huguenots were Protestant but they still remained distinct and hostile in every way toward their Anglican, Anglo-Saxon neighbors.

While they were non-Catholics like the Anglicans, their Protestantism was radically different from that of the established church in the colony. They regarded the Church of England as little different from and little better than the Church of Rome. They had their own language. They inherited the ingrained hostility that the French and English had shared for each other for centuries. They were only in South Carolina because they had no other place to go.

And there were significant problems for the colony in the friction between Presbyterian Frenchmen and Anglican Englishmen.

The Huguenots settled in their own towns and communities where they tried to preserve their own language, culture and religion.

The English resented this and feared their French neighbors as potentially disloyal.

The colonial legislature had passed laws to squelch and suppress the French, banning their language from public usage and ordering them to adopt an Anglican prayer book and to conform to the established church.

The French undoubtedly resented this.

And so the friction went on…

But only for several generations.

Today in South Carolina the French Huguenots have disappeared. They are remembered only in peculiar French names like my father’s first name “Bonneau” and my mother’s middle name of “Legare.”

And the reason the French have disappeared in South Carolina is that for all the denominational, national, linguistic and cultural friction, at heart the French Huguenot did not hate his neighbor.

His religion did not mandate and encourage him to lie awake at night mentally sticking Voodoo pins into a doll of the Anglican Anglo-Saxon next door.

While separate from the English and while separated from the English by denomination, nationality, language and culture, the French Huguenot in South Carolina was not actively hostile, hateful and adversarial toward his neighbors.

And so within a few generations use of the French language was dying out, many of the French Huguenots had been absorbed into the Anglican Church and their descendants were intermarrying with the English boys and girls in the vicinity.

No. To survive for millennia as a small minority scattered “amongst the nations” mere separation is not enough.

Such remarkable survival requires hatred, hostility — in short an attitude toward society that is absolutely adversarial at all times and remains so even in the face of non-discriminatory and even amicable treatment.

The problems in the relations between our people and our society on the one hand and the Jewish community and its society on the other do not arise from and are not confined to the role of the Rothschild Banks or a tight little committee of rabbis making up the Learned Elders of Zion.

They are warp and woof of the Jewish personality itself.

The problems have existed back to the times of Antiquity. They predate Christianity.

The friction would exist if Europeans had never converted to Christianity and even if Christianity had never existed and indeed would probably have been all the sharper, as is seen if one looks at the extraordinarily vicious massacres perpetrated by the Jews and the Greeks on each other in pre-Christian times.

The friction and the problems arise from the normal, natural and healthy competition and struggle of peoples against each other for resources, space and survival.

It was a stroke of genius for the Jews to inject into this natural evolutionary competition a false moral issue of “hate” or “discrimination.”

It is no more hateful or discriminatory for me as the descendant of English and French colonists who came to America in the 1600s to resent the fact that two alien-born Jews usurped the office of Secretary of State in my county in my lifetime than it would be “hate” for Israelis to be outraged if I demanded that some Scottish Presbyterian be made Minister of Foreign Affairs of Israel.

In my garden at the moment that I am writing this little essay two plants are contending for mastery. The Wandering Jew (to use the old, politically incorrect word for what the nursery saleswoman informed me is now called “Purple Heart”) is battling for space with the Rabbit’s Ears. It is a ruthless, cruel fight with each plant species seeking to smother and choke the other.

This is not because the Wandering Jew and the Rabbit’s Ear’s plants are evil, immoral or hateful.

It’s the fact that they are responding to the commands of their genes, the laws of nature.

Last weekend I, as the owner of the garden, embarked upon a severe pruning of the Rabbit’s Ears which were winning the battle.

Not because I think the Rabbit’s Ears are anti-Semitic, morally bad and deserving of punishment but because I — for my own selfish human pleasure as a member of my own species of life with my own agenda — want to preserve the attractive contrast between the two swaths of silvery-green Rabbit’s Ears and purple Wandering Jew.

Conspiracy theories carried to unrealistic extremes — as I believe characterizes the claims about the Rothschilds — distract us from the obvious, confuse our people about what must be done for us to survive and triumph in a society natural to our own natures, and diminish our credibility.

One doesn’t have to be a conspiracy theorist to see the problems created by Jewish influence in our society. These problems are right in front of our eyes. They are conspicuous in groups like AIPAC and cause dramatic and unconcealed tragedies as in the 9/11 attack made upon us as “blow back” (Ron Paul’s term) from the Arabs who have sustained the pain caused by the kidnapping of our foreign policy by the American Jewish community.

[to be continued in Part II]

Source: The Occidental Observer


11 Responses to “Rothschild Conspiracies, Turks, and Jew-Gentile Relations: Several not quite random thoughts.”

  1. Susie on June 25th, 2008 6:43 pm

    This article on Jew-Gentile relations is excellent. It is VERY well written, correct and easy to follow. After reading this fine article I can more readily understand why, when my sister and I did our first two videos on YouTube about The Jews, we were hated so much by the Jewish community.

    It was because in our simple, natural experience of living the destruction of the last 40 years, we had hit on the actual causes.

    We sisters do not believe in conspiracy theories either because they destroy any argument a person is trying to make. We do not believe in blaming religion or going off on some pointed-object theory as evidence of evil in the world. We know the selfish people who call themselves “Jews” have caused a tremendous injury to the United States.

    Again, thank you for printing this excellent article. It has renewed our faith that others out there knew it also but were afraid to say it. Susie and Barbie

  2. Bob in DC on June 25th, 2008 10:28 pm

    Too many words … too lttle resolution !!!

  3. Wolf on June 26th, 2008 12:17 am

    There is no resolution for the United States. Hitler had some success but even extreme nationalism is too late for a polarized and multiracial puppet empire. Racially aware European Americans need to regroup, consolidate and seperate.

  4. Bob in DC on June 26th, 2008 10:11 pm

    Subie Sisters:

    “Jews” — particularly their ruling elites — are an international and intergenerational crime syndicate.

  5. Susie on June 27th, 2008 12:54 am

    Bob in DC,
    Yes, I agree about ‘international and intergenerational crime syndiate.’ Listen to our June 26 show! I can tell you will very much enjoy it!!
    The Patriot Dames
    Hosts, Thursdays, 9p to 11p EST.

  6. Peter Schaenk on June 27th, 2008 3:21 am


    I don’t know what in the hell this person is talking about.

    To marginalize the impact of the Rothschild family on the civilized world, verges on Polyanistic…(Is there such a word?)

    The Jews are organized, determined and keepers of the faith. Even the flippin Atheist Jews keep the faith as a matter of culture because Judaism, was the religion of their ancestors.

    You can write this off as “genetic” till the cows come home, but their tactics and techniques are effective and get results.

    White Nationalists would do well to rethink their survival strategy and learn a lesson from the Jew.

  7. Zelea on June 27th, 2008 4:34 pm

    Amen to that. The article is absurd.

  8. Frank Castle on June 28th, 2008 3:33 pm

    This article is written by bias person who’s opener is; “I am not an expert on Rothschilds…”

    Well I am and suggest you research before you write such a long article on any topic.

  9. Wolf on June 28th, 2008 4:59 pm

    It bears repeating:

    The Primary Owners of the Federal Reserve Bank Are:

    1. Rothschild’s of London and Berlin
    2. Lazard Brothers of Paris
    3. Israel Moses Seaf of Italy
    4. Kuhn, Loeb & Co. of Germany and New York
    5. Warburg & Company of Hamburg, Germany
    6. Lehman Brothers of New York
    7. Goldman, Sachs of New York
    8. Rockefeller Brothers of New York


    Meyer Amchel Rothschild (1743-1812) said:

    “Let me issue and control a nation’s money, and I care not who writes its laws”

    But let us not dwell on these facts when we have a self described non expert to set us straight.

  10. Bill Blass on June 29th, 2008 12:19 am

    Great essay. Here is the link to Part 2, just posted (June 28) at the Occidental Observer site:

  11. Andrew on October 12th, 2008 9:05 am

    Er……call the police to arrest the Bilderberg, Council on Foreign Relations, Illuminati and Rothschilds!!!! Can you imagine the conversation over the phone to the local bobby.