Peter Schaenk 6/11/08 Self Evident Truth

June 12, 2008

Self Evident Truth

In this program Peter discusses:

  • Supporters of Hillary may flock to McCain.
  • The poisoning for our food supply by Mexico.
  • Self evident truth vs unchangeable truth.
  • PATRIOTARD MOMENT: David Icke’s fascination with fascism.
  • All the latest news and “This Day In History”


31 Responses to “Peter Schaenk 6/11/08 Self Evident Truth”

  1. roscoe on June 12th, 2008 9:43 pm

    The first two Tony Alamos were named Luther and Calvin.

  2. roscoe on June 12th, 2008 11:24 pm

    Mr Icke may have left out judaics but he sure let us know that the Roman Church was founded by the Illuminati–you buying it Katman? I wonder where the boy who cried wolf has been?

  3. K-Sensor on June 13th, 2008 4:17 am

    Peter you seem to not fathom the lack of freedom of speech in places like England. If David Icke said it was purely a Jewish attack then he would be thrown in gaol.

    I was pissed that David didn’t move the discussion back to Clean Break as he was perfectly diffused by Terry Wogan.

  4. Zelea on June 13th, 2008 5:28 am

    Icke is a plagiarist, his theories are essentially a re-hash of Fritz Springmeier’s dreadful “Bloodlines of the Illuminati” blended with New Age clap-trap. His work has no academic merit, is packed with red-herrings and perhaps most telling is the fact that his theories are mocked even by fellow patrio-tards.
    Real British patriots like Simon Sheppard of the Heretical Press are not afraid of imprisonment for disseminating their views.

  5. K-Sensor on June 13th, 2008 6:42 am

    Zelea, it’s not important if he’s copying others, it’s important that he voices what he knowns on the arena he is able to conduct.

    As people said in one show, regarding the illegal federal income tax and the protectors thereof, it’s no point being in gaol.

    It’s obviously clear that Icke refers to Jews when he talks about Lizardman.

  6. K-Sensor on June 13th, 2008 6:45 am

    ‘knows’… not ‘knowns’…
    ‘As peter said’ … not ‘As people said’

  7. K-Sensor on June 13th, 2008 8:47 am

    I’ve shared the show on

  8. Mark Lavarre on June 13th, 2008 12:03 pm

    The only way we could know for sure if Icke means Jews when he says Lizards is if someone who had met Icke contacted VOR and gave the report of a personal discussion with Icke in which he said that the Lizard thing was just a code word for Jews that Icke uses for legal reasons.

  9. Mark Lavarre on June 13th, 2008 1:01 pm

    I think I understand roscoe now, he’s a Catholic reactionary. In his opinion any group that isn’t the Catholic church is controlled by the Illuminati.

  10. roscoe on June 13th, 2008 2:35 pm

    The Vatican I Church that is.

  11. roscoe on June 13th, 2008 5:11 pm

    There is no such thing as a ‘vatican ii’ council’.

    For anyone interested, there is one copy left for sale in the world of the 1989 Consortium on Revolutionary Europe by Horgan avail at

    This 900+ pg book is packed with info and sources re: French Revolution. I have already purchased the Wegren copy if it is still showing.

  12. whodareswings on June 13th, 2008 5:49 pm


    “They boast everywhere that they have dissolved and destroyed the Iron Guard. We only answer: One never knows!”

    (Corneliu Zelea Codreanu December 1933)


  13. roscoe on June 13th, 2008 6:23 pm

    I would like to remind all that this day(Fri 13) is a special holyday that we celebrate as the beginning of the suppression of the corrupt Templar order. They were being protected by the anti-pope boniface 8. The order was not fully condemmed until Clement XII in 1738. Many thanks to Philip Iv, Clement V and also to Shankus for showing on yesterdays show that he hasn’t changed to much.

  14. roscoe on June 13th, 2008 6:26 pm

    Scroll down for a pic of the throne of the anti-pope boniface 8

  15. roscoe on June 13th, 2008 10:22 pm

    According to Taine in vol 2 pg 215, here are the leaders of the Revolutionary Commune who took power on 11 Aug 1792 after the Legislative Assy refuses to convict Lafayette and the storming of the Tulierres.

    Marat, Danton, Robespierre. Manuel, Hebert, Billaud-Varennes, Huguenin, Lhuiller, Chenier, Audouin, Bourdon, Boula, Truchon, Panis, Sergent, Tallien, Rossignol, Chaumette, Fabre D’Eglantine, Pache, Hassenfratz, Simon(this may or may not be the Simon who tortured Louis XVIII in the Temple), Momoro, Santerre, and Henriot.

  16. K-Sensor on June 13th, 2008 10:37 pm

    Can we get off the Catholic subject. Plain and simple the Catholics are not carrying out the bible expectations properly. They have layered the eldership in a way that people are more special then others in the congregation. A deacon or a priest become a conduit to Jesus which adulterates the whole theme of Jesus being our king. There is no round table of eldership.

    Most Church organisations are corrupt. Why are we wasting argument on them other then to expose.

  17. K-Sensor on June 13th, 2008 10:42 pm
  18. roscoe on June 13th, 2008 11:11 pm

    That is exactly the point K-Sensor; if we expose all the corruption in this fallen world, there has to be SOMETHING left when we are done or else this is all hopeless. It is the Infallibe Constitution of the Vatican I Council and It can never be corrupted.

    Catholics believe this to comprise the definition of Revealed Truth. You cannot even doubt one word of the document without committing a heresy( if one is a Catholic of course). and #6

    There are a few Catholics that are aware the v2 ‘church’ is a schismatical sect .

  19. roscoe on June 13th, 2008 11:20 pm

    I have heard Icke and Lisa Giuliani both remark that they don’t believe in organised religion. But how could there poss be a God who is UNorganised; Jesus an anarchist??

    Icke’s Rome is Babylon theme is just a rehash of Luther or Calvin or Katman.

  20. K-Sensor on June 14th, 2008 12:20 am

    Roscoe, they may say one thing but do another. No person can enter a Catholic church and expect to be heard if they contest the conduct of the church. Other words they are failing the scriptures.

    Yes I see the importance and factual side to organisation in groups. That has nothing to do with what I pointed out though as I’m not questioning the treasurer.

  21. Peter Schaenk on June 14th, 2008 4:17 am

    Icke is not speaking about Jews. He clearly states that he is speaking about a Fourth Reich. He is speaking about Nazis (read as White people).

    In his videos he uses imagery of Christian crosses when he shows photos of the 911 conspirators: Richard Perle, and company.

    Since when is Perle a Christian or a Nazi?

    This type of disinformation started in the 60′s during the Vietnam war. The word “fascist” was being bandied about, whenever a Jewish leader from the “counter-culture” would appear on television to criticize the war and the “racist WASPS”.

    If Icke was referring to Jews, he simply wouldn’t be using Christian or Nazi symbols when discussing the New World Order.

    This would lead the average person to believe it was a case of a bunch of “Rich, White guys” getting together to rule the world like they did back in 1939. It certainly would not lead one to believe that the New World Order was Jewish in origin.

    Keep your eye on the ball people and stop the wishful thinking.

    Dare To Know.

  22. Zelea on June 14th, 2008 4:59 am


    “Democracy destroys the unity of the Romanian nation, dividing it among political parties, making Romanians hate one another, and thus exposing a divided people to the united congregation of Jewish power at a difficult time in the nation’s history.

    This argument alone is so persuasive as to warrant the discarding of democracy in favor of anything that would ensure our unity–or life itself. For disunity means death.”


  23. Dave Mende on June 14th, 2008 9:15 am

    I like Icke’s pronouncement, world leaders are Alien Reptiles. It is the only way to explain their blindness and subservience to cruelty and death. They have no feelings of sympathy or remorese. Hense, Reptiles. Human beings do not act like that. Ickes probably is closer to the Truth than even he realizes. Also, when you kill another human being, you kill your own soul. Dwell on that.

  24. K-Sensor on June 14th, 2008 9:29 am

    Peter, you can’t over look the bad-will built up on the Nazis and that as a smear of a suppressive system, even if one doesn’t refer to that system specifically. Many a people will call others Nazi’s if they are being suppressed. It’s now a corrupted word.

    It’s not clear cut that he’s using the Nazi term to refer to whites, even though he’s anti race-type. The Christian cross, I’d have to see the clip.

    Lets face it Icke’s background is clearly based in the hippy come nexus-magazine type culture, blended with some truths. Those types rarely support Christianity.

  25. K-Sensor on June 14th, 2008 9:34 am

    I’ve never seen Icke apologise for his Jesus Moment, Any true Christian knows Christ wont be back till the second coming, and that is only a visit from the air. It will take another 1000 years before he touched the earth. So anyone that says they are Jesus or he visited them personally are liars or very confused.

  26. roscoe on June 14th, 2008 12:21 pm

    I find the research of Icke and Springmeier to be valuable if one knows how to read between the lines. However they both take the Alex Jones white, nazi man did it road and this is the trouble. Icke is read by alot of nigerians because as we all know, they love to blame the white man for everything.

    I don’t know about Shankus idea that Obomba is being set up for a loss. We all know the voting machines are fixed so it really doesn’t necessarily matter if hordes of whites and Latinos vote against him.

    He will be put in office if the judaic wants it that way-possibly to provoke a race war. . I still think Scwarzenegger will figure into this somehow before it is all over; his looney wife is for Barak.

  27. roscoe on June 14th, 2008 1:37 pm

    Above mention of Louis XVIII should read Louis XVII.

  28. Peter Schaenk on June 14th, 2008 3:47 pm

    There are many other terms Icke could use when describing the people who are behind the Middle East War and the 911 terror attack.

    Just tune in to Patriotard radio:

    Canaanite, Pharisee, Zionist, etc.

    He could even describe the authors of the document “Clean Break” as “agents of Israel”, as that is what they are.

    He could say that Benjamin Netanyahu was behind the creation of the document “Clean Break” and he would be totally accurate and within the legal limits of any “Hate Speech laws” in the UK.

    If you want to get behind a man who has lied in the past about being the second coming of the Messiah, than by all means go ahead.


    How can someone deceive you if they don’t mix the truth with lies to get you off the track?

    He doesn’t have to make up a story about gremlins to talk about Jews. I have just illustrated that point.

    He is trying to gain an audience and sell books, videos and tickets to his “Live Performance”.

    That’s why Woogan puts him on his show…for audience share.

    Dare To Know

  29. Nick on June 15th, 2008 8:00 pm

    K-Sensor thanks for the upload on conspiracy cemtral.

    Icke a Liar?? . Sure some disinfo in his books. but also usefull information.

    Peter great show. Thanks

    From the Netherlands

  30. Igor Alexander on June 20th, 2008 12:56 pm

    Regarding the comments at 32m 50s: It’s interesting how Americans automatically equate “military” with “foreign policy.” God forbid that diplomacy should have anything to do with foreign policy!

  31. Igor Alexander on June 20th, 2008 12:59 pm

    “Speaking of Simon, would be interesting to interview him when he’s available.”

    I’d like to hear an interview with Simon Sheppard as well.